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idk why youtube keeps turning my comments off but they're fixed for now!
Cause CZcams sucks
its the boogeyman from the black phone
Glad they’re back so I can talk about how sexy Ethan hawke is
its because there’s kids in your video so the ai keeps trying to mark your video as kids only
Nice touch with liking your own comment.
The most unrealistic part of The Black Phone is how a part-time magician can afford two houses
This was during a time where you could be a freakin vacuum salesman and still afford a two story house, feed your family and a dog. The "American Dream" was still obtainable
@@Inusitus true, but...magician?
We're not sure what he actually does for a living. The magician thing is just what he does to lure kids.
He’s probably actually a home renovator if he’s able to soundproof a door and hole up an exit so fast
"Was this film set in Uvalde, Texas?" Holy shit that was maybe the blackest joke I couldn't stop laughing at lol.
Explain pls!
@@alicetookherpills no, it’s been two months
@@alicetookherpills Okay..? The joke is at the expense of the police, not the children, so who actually gives a shit?
@Gallifrey Gojira Omg and here I thought Adum was referring to houses in Texas not having basements. Thank you! The interview with the Dad crying still gets to me.
Hey should be on Comedy Death Jam on BET.
I like how the police force's incompetence is so widely known, that when something stupid related to cops happens in a movie, you could almost argue its an intentional satire.
Watch MINDHUNTER.
Local Cops were pretty incompetent in terms of running investigations back then.
Especially on something as new as a “serial killer”. Hell they follow the leads of a little psychic girl.
It’s obvious they don’t know what they’re doing.
I find it pretty strange that mainstream horror films are still afraid to show a kid getting killed on-screen when "Hereditary", "It", and (to an extent) "A Quiet Place" - some of the most successful horror films of the last ten years - center their entire plot around a kid getting horribly killed on-screen in the first act.
Doctor Sleep did it and failed horribly at the box office.
Also kids being killed on screen is a tuff sell. Especially if the movie is not meant to shock.
The black phone isn’t trying to terrify you. Not really. So I’m fine with the restraint.
hereditary is the best scary movie ive ever seen man. concepts actually based in reality scare the shit out of me. the final ten minutes of that movie are stuck in my head from years ago. whenever someone asks me about scary movies i always bring it up
@@iansmart4158 I was just about to mention Doctor Sleep! That one.. I wanna say baseball? kid screaming his freaking guts outs so realistically was a intense theatre experience.
@@nerdoseven332 And it's the biggest star in the world, Mr. Jacob Tremblay himself.
Such an effective moment in that movie.
The black phone showed a child’s body getting snapped in half
I really liked the Black Phone but I fully agree with you about the dialogue, it was distractingly bad at times. The acting was good for the most part (especially from Ethan Hawke and the kid who plays Finny) but it took a noticeable dip in quality during the school scenes
Gwen's dialogue was genuinely awful. "Jesus, what the hell?!" Ugghhhhhh
@@guibeck8259 meh, I liked that.
It was like that one Adum showed where that kid was talking about that movie.
I didn’t realize how terrible that line and the acting was on first watch
I thought Finn’s child actor was the weakest. When he was taken he didn’t even look scared he just looked annoyed lmao
@@guibeck8259 i thought that line was funny
ethan hawke just played joaquin phoenix's joker
One positive: the costumes, makeup, hair. I had that exact outfit and pony tails at 2:52. Designers usually overkill the 1970s and 1980s.
I’m looking at you, Stranger Things
@@jaden_bricker Exactly. The cast is wearing every trendy item, all at once.
Photos of real people then are so easy to find. There's no excuse.
@@floraposteschild4184 Tbf i think they were trying to be as nostalgic as possible. That said its pretty cool to get subtle era-appropriate costuming here.
they're gonna do this with the 90s and 00s too I've already seen it 😅 we really did not look cool. I'm not even sure I dislike it when this happens in film tbh, it's kinda cool seeing a modern spin on a certain decades fashion...but I might change my mind once it's my childhood
@@mischr13 It is different when it's your childhood. When a movie comes out set in the 2020s, and someone has a PS3 when they should have had a PS4 or whatever, some grownup 2020s kids will lose their minds.
It bugs me when it's easy to do the research. There's a ton of actual 1970s and '80s clothes still in resale and vintage stores!
The Black Phone had so many moments where I was just like "what the eff are you doing??" But I still liked it from a pure entertainment standpoint.
I don’t understand why he used the phone to kill the “Grabber” at the end when he had the toilet tank lid and two bottles which he could have used before they were smashed against the wall.
I also don’t understand why he didn’t just take a chair from upstairs while the “Grabber” was asleep and use it to climb out through the window.
I also don’t understand how the police didn’t just see a massive black van parked up outside this dude’s gaff and see that as a massive clue to who could be behind all the recent child murders.
The scene where the escapes and then gets hit by the friggin' van did it for me. Was it really too hard to run across the gardens?
@@anonymoususer2756 Yeah the van is incredibly conspicuous for a guy going around kidnapping kids in a small town.
@@anonymoususer2756 or that he could have used the sharp object to cut his throat
The reason why the girls character actions don´t really matter at the end of the film is because her whole character and storyline was not in the original text (the short story). Since the filmmakers did not really want to deviate from the original short story (the film is a very strict adaptation), having the police find the kid would interfere with the original ending of the kid killing and escaping by himself. This, and other aspects of the movie, can be explained by the unwillingness to deviate from the source material, while still wanting to incorporate various elements.
But also they got to find the kids which is nice
@@fewntug3760 yea I think her story should have been more towards finding the bodies so the kids can be at peace and have a proper burial etc while his story was to learn to fight back and escape without relying on people to save you. That’s how I saw it anyway.
I feel like having no opening death puts you in the mindset of the town. Kids go missing, no bodies found, and nobody knows exactly what happened or how they died. It's also kinda realistic as we never truly know what happens to missing people who were never found again
I find it super funny how both films walked away with a 5/10
Hearing him talk about those 2 movies you get the feeling that he liked TBP much more than CoF, yet both get the same rating? Doesn't make any sense...
@@Haterator
I meant mostly in the sense that he talked about one for ten minutes and the other for two minutes.
Yeah I can't imagine walking away from a film feeling like I blacked out two hours of my life and saying "yes that was a very average film." If Adum thought it was ambitious or he could point to some objectively good qualities and he still felt bored that's one thing, but to me if you feel zero emotions toward a film and you also have little to say about it from a filmmaking perspective then that movie is terrible.
@@Holygiant then why did it get a 5? 5 is an ok score, not a terrible one
@@MM-jc7uv that's what I'm saying lol
The whole point of not having a death at the beginning of the movie is to feed the same information to the audience and main characters. The main kid doesn't know anything but rumors atthe beginning, so once he's locked in the guy's basement, half the horror is not knowing what to expect.
Expect you obviously do not what you expect because the movie isn't suitable enough to pull it off.
And yet it wasn’t scary
1 second ago
Even though it was VERY hard for me to watch, I gotta commend The Black Phone for the belt scene towards the beginning. The acting was so well done. It felt real , almost like when you’re at a friend’s house and they get in an argument with their parents. It really affected me.
That's very true. What is more, the actor of Gwen was fantastic in that scene
Yeah, I remembered that scene and was surprised that Adum didn't mention it when he was talking about child actors. They had a couple of very strong scenes
Aw man each to their own I suppose and I mean no disrespect when I say that that scene was some goofy ass acting served hot if ever I saw it, the dad looks like he has a fake beard the whole time like a character outta Tim and Eric sketch and the over the top shouting was so silly and unbelievable that I couldn't help but kind of giggle as he was shouting "THEYRE JUST DREAMS SAY THEY ARE JUST DREAMS" , sorry but that whole thing could have been done in a much more effective way
That scene was terrible and poorly acted I agree with the guy above me
The girl's crying in that scene seemed so real but that dad actor sucked.
It’s interesting to watch differing reviews of Black Phone and other movies. Some critics praise thematic elements of the cinematography whilst others highlight parts such as the script. It’s why I love watching these different analyses
Honestly both are important bu script is more important. Without a good story it's just another motion picture with good cinematics.
Totally. It's why I don't watch *one* reviewer in CZcams, even for movies I don't like or won't watch. Efap and cosmonaut can have exactly opposing views of star wars movies I'm not even interested in but I can get something critical from their opinions to do with what I want
(Personally I loved black phone)
No! You're supposed to complain that someone doesn't have your same exact opinon!!
@@Ghost7065 film is a visual medium. A good script doesn’t necessarily make a good movie.
But a bad script can make a great movie.
Visual rigor > good plotting
@@iansmart4158 On the contrary friend. Terminator and Terminator two beg to differ.
Thought I guess even the later can be changed if done right like Robocop. It was moderate scrip but backed by a talented Director.
The way you describe the exposition reminded me of that flashback in Black Dynamite where he goes "Jimmy! I am 18 year old Black Dynamite and you are my 16 year old kid brother!"
First movie- "I quite liked it, 5/10"
Second movie- "It took a long time to do nothing, i remember nothing, i didnt enjoy it, 5/10."
I kinda get it. Both movies are 5/10 in quality in his opinion, but he enjoyed the first one more.
@@DrawnByLaserLove A rating should always reflect one's enjoyment, not the technical aspects.
Here's an example out of the videogame realm: Tetris, even for a Gameboy game, has like 2/10 graphics, 4/10 music, yet the gameplay is much more enjoyable and would be more like in the range of a 7 or 8 /10. Now, technically, it should have been 2+4/2=3. Had reviewers rated it like that, no one would have ever played it.
The answer is, videogames and movies are art. They can be easily greater than just the mere sum of their parts.
We are here for Adam's own opinion of the movies he watched. We know his taste by now and are just curious to hear him talk about them and how he ultimately enjoed them. If I want a rating reflecting the technical aspects, I would not watch him. A passionless analysis would be sufficient, but, in the end, would tell me jack shyte about the actual movie experience.
LIke, he gave them both a 5, yet he enjoyed the first one more. How would you know that if you didn't watch the video and just saw his ratings? That's what the numbers are for. You enjoyed the first one more than the second one, so the first one should at least be a 6.
@@Haterator I always think one's preference and the actual quality of the thing should be somewhat separate. I loved Nic Cage's Drive Angry, it's a 6/10 movie, but my enjoyment out of it is 8/10. If I were to review it, I'd still give it a 6/10 in good conscience, however I would state that I like this movie a lot despite it being not a very good movie, and that's what the review part is for.
@@DrawnByLaserLove I agree with you. Not with your rating system, though. Why would the technical aspects matter in your 6/10 rating? Did they take away from your enjoyment? No. So why does it influence your rating? This way no one can "decipher" what your rating is supposed to be. For example: Let’s say, you liked a movie so much, it was a 8/10 experience for you. Yet it was technically so bad, you’d have to give it a 4/10. Now a friend asks you just for your rating. You say a 4. He normally would go „Oh, so this bad?“. He does it for a reason, because people usually link a rating with the enjoyment of the movie. And in this case, you’d have to explain as to why you rated it that way. Which is silly, because why assign the movie a number in the first place? What you should do, since you said it should be separated, is to rate the movie a 8/10 and then just judge and mention the technical aspects being only a 4/10. Not merge both into one. Btw this is the same thing as people at IMDB or Rotten Tomatoes going „Oh, the movie is a 7 for me, but the rating is at a 5 now which isn’t fair, so I’m trying to boost it by giving it a 9.“ Same thing. People would look at your IMDB rating and say „Oh, so you thought the movie was excellent?“. When you have to explain to them that you thought the movie was more like „solid“, but you needed to push the rating. Your 9 doesn’t reflect anything really.
@@Haterator Tetris is a perfect game pleb. Nothing you said after that matters.
Technically the brother wasn't supposed to be there he was "in between jobs" Also, the brother/neighbors would get suspicious of The Gabber going across the street everyday and that basement wasnt as "fortified" just some suggestions as to why the other house was just a burial ground.
First movie: Started weak, then it got really good, the ending made me laugh. - 5/10
Second movie: Nothing happened. 5/10
Man I’m totally on the opposite spectrum with crimes of the future. I thought it was provoking and had stunning images of a not too distant future ruled by destruction of art. The elements of evolution and the human condition were all presented so effortlessly. I loved the practical effects, acting, cinematography, editing, soundtrack. I don’t know, I guess we are all entitled to our own opinion here but I’m pretty happy with this return to form for David Cronenberg.
Same here, left the theater afterwards thinking, "Cronenberg's still got it!!" I'm really surprised that Adam didn't like it, but I understand where he's coming from. I just thought the sparseness/emptiness of the movie felt intentional and atmospheric, and it made the film's messages even sharper than they would have been otherwise.
Yeah everyone's entitled to their opinions, but something worth noting about Adum's tastes is that he is a bit of a sucker for stylish (or at least dynamic/noticable) cinematography, at least in that any time something has purely functional camera work, he thinks less of it.
In sardonicast I seem to remember him referring to shit as incredibly written and acted as Breaking Bad, as being "pretty decent" when the only lackluster feature he mentioned was the cinematography just being "tv quality" or something like that.
I think everyone has interesting biases when it comes to movies/media that can be fun to explore. For me, anything with pretty colors and good sound design just about _blinds_ me to its problems. While if it's art style/character designs rub me wrong, or the voice acting doesn't work or sound effects aren't particularly good it immediately "loses points" with me so to speak.
@@PhyreI3ird good points
I guess I haven't seen enough horror movies to compare it to but I really thoroughly enjoyed The Black Phone
Same, I though it was actually pretty good. It doesn't really make me mad, of course there were parts that made no sense, but I liked it.
@@oriiva1246 The movie is actually very simple. The problem is the writing and execution of certain ideas, which holds the film back from being actually "good". This sometimes happens when people try to add extra stuff into an original short story from back then. It's just an average movie (if they stuck with the original ending they had planned before, it would of made the film a bit better).
@@cjqcresent292 it’s good if the ppl like it.
Calm down.
@@iansmart4158 I am calm about it. Explaining something doesn't mean I'm telling people not to like it. In fact, I liked the movie myself. You should calm down yourself, since you sound triggered by someone else's simple opinion.
Edit: Btw, enjoyment is subjective and doesn't define something as good or bad.
@@cjqcresent292 Defining something as good or bad is also subjective.
But go off, bro.
one thing I would have loved in the ending is if the main character is actually dead the whole time and the sister is the only one who can see him when the police came. That would have been a cool twist and that the little sister character haas more value to the story.
I think in regards to the phone call scenes, I liked how the movement was directed and how the scenes were choreographed. I personally didn't really feel that the point of the phone call scenes was to be scary, they felt more like macabre reveries than anything else.
The initial shot of the kids was supposed to be jarring/shocking, but after that it wasn’t supposed to be intense/scary
@@JD-jz5gu Exactly, after a certain point it just transitioned to being more atmospheric and almost sentimental.
Doesn’t Max literally say he’s in town for a bit and staying with his brother which is why the grabber said everything was all messed up? His brother had to have started staying there around the time he took Finney.
Yeah that part is explained in the movie that the brother is only recently started staying in the house temporarily. Also through the phone as well as the grabbers actions that that house(or more importantly the room) has a lot of significance to him so that is why he has to do what he does in that house. I’ll admit the 2nd house is kind of a lame last minute GOTCHA twist but story wise it makes sense why he doesn’t kill the kid’s over there.
Yes, that's the second conversation the grabber and Finney have. No one was expecting the brother to show up
Pasted from another comment:
As I said in the review, he sound-proofed the basement and then continued to do the whole "come upstairs away from the basement so I can beat loudly you" trick while his brother was home. If his brother wasn't there for the first several kids, then great, but the film shows him being there while The Grabber does this same thing for the main kid. It is just as stupid, especially since he acknowledges the need for sound-proofing.
@@guibeck8259 No one was expecting him to show up? The Grabber says at the beginning that his brother is living there and that he sound-proofed the basement.
@@YMS Interactions with the Grabber shows us that doing this ritual is important to him so hes seemingly willing to disregard his brother hearing him if it means being able to carry out his murder ritual(demonstrated by the fact that he just straight up kills him). Whatever reasons he has for the things he does seems to be more important to him than anything else.
Ontop of that we also see that the Grabber is careless as he falls asleep in the kitchen while leaving the basement door unlocked and getting sloppy and careless is actually a pretty realistic depiction of real life serial killers.
I almost laughed in black phone when one of the ghosts deflated like a balloon.
They didn't show first death so you can get told about the naughty boy game later. It's also a metaphor for the dads abusive relationship with the kids. No reason to get too focused on the deaths themselves
I actually really liked Crimes of the Future. The themes really got to me. Essentially empathy and care being a deformity that scares “normal people” into violence is an interesting and relevant idea to me. I think it felt cold and bare in purpose. The bare nature of the shots and cinematography and characters all made the film’s story feel more desperate and depressing for me.
Me as well. Figures Adum isn't keen on Cronenberg though, shame he didn't even mention his feelings on his other movies.
Im with you on this one, I liked it too.
I couldn’t even finish it. Such an empty and pointless film
@@ErenThorne that’s the fun thing about art. Different people can feel different things from it.
@@TheFlygonproductions I don’t think he’s seen too many Cronenberg films. The only one I think he’s fond of is Naked Lunch which he talked about on his podcast
To be fair to the plot, they did mention the brother was only living there for a few weeks, so he would have only heard the latest kid (Vinny/Finny?) who was never beaten.
Just saw The Black Phone, it was great!! Yes, there was questionable stuff, but since the whole movie had a supernatural/fantastical vibe, I give them a pass. Like the kid digging a huge hole with his bare hands, and beating a hole to a concrete wall and stuff, but it's a fantastical supernatural horror movie, and doesn't even try to be super-realistic.
Having a supernatural element doesn't mean all laws of reality can be violated arbitrarily. Like if in the last fight the kid started spitting fire onto the grabber like a dragon, and there was never any kind of explanation, we wouldn't just say "oh there was a supernatural vibe so I guess anything goes."
@@seanmatthewking Sure, that would be stupid and cross the line.... but the whole ending fight was unrealistic, including the Home-alone style traps, that skinny kid could never really beat and strangle that guy, but again, I felt the movie was like a fantastical fairy-tale, and the movie knew what it was, and didn't even try to be realistic.
@@seanmatthewking what a weird strawman
I *love* when Adum explains films (or writing) that are too obvious and forced. Makes me feel good about my essays
It’s important to keep in mind the aim of the movie.
Not everything is looking to be The Shinning.
I do have to disagree about the dialogue for the kids in The Black Phone! I watched this movie with my father who grew up in the 60's and he commended the script for writing kids that talked like he and his friends did, back then. Right down to the swearing when the adults weren't looking and the strange, oft-repeated nicknames. I don't know if it was just a thing from that decade, but he was very adamant about this particular portion of the movie.
yourmoviesucks likes to complain about anything and it is quite unfair on many reviews.
So you disagree on the basis of what your dad says? Maybe he forgets how kids talk too...
For The Black Phone, the brother didn’t live there, and I feel like it’s not that difficult to think that Ethan Hawke’s character waited until he wasn’t in the house to start doing the Naughty Boy bit.
I think what made me enjoy the black phone most is that an amber alert went off while I was watching it in the theater. So many phones going off
Crimes of the Future had one of the most abrupt endings I've seen in a long time
The girl may have no purpose in the story but "Jesus, Whatafuck" is my highlight of the movie
I get that not everybody is gonna love Cronenberg and Crimes isn't his best film, but the themes of humanity trying to overcome the self Annihilation caused by humanity and our ever growing need to change ourselves as if to force evolution were fascinating to me.
Is evolution an art form, are we the root of our destruction, is there anything we can do to evolve past this?
Agree to disagree Adam
I love Cronenberg and I love the concept of the film and the themes of it, but for some reason this one just didn’t connect with me. I felt very distant from the characters and everything that was happening
Agreed. I loved it. It was very thought provoking and fascinating. His strange take on humanity and the grey area of what we can do vs what we should do and why does anyone get a say in any of it will always fascinate me. Not to mention the political layers at play. The narrative seems simple but what’s happening in the background is pretty dense. It was wonderful, but I get that it isn’t clicking with a lot of people.
@@AndySunshine1291 I agree with everything you said and I'm a Cronenberg fan too but I found that I wished there was more to this one. As Adum said it felt unfinished. I think a miniseries or a TV Show would do the concepts and themes and world building a way better service tbh.
Maybe because it was marketed as gorey horror film (the red band trailer) instead we got a philosophical film about humanity with a little bit of scifi body horror on top. Videodrome was much entertaining while still thought provoking.
I thought it was pretty brilliant as well. It makes sense this is a film that wouldn't be for everyone, but I think that made me enjoy it more. I also loved how it explored post-modernism and what happens when biology itself becomes meaningless, what it would cause in a society, and how we would attempt to push past it. It also works as a metaphor for the arts and how deconstruction has gotten us to a point where we feel empty, as well as if there are legitimate ways we can use it to undo our mistakes and find a way to create meaning again people will reject it due to fear of change.
When talking to the cops, the brother says he's from out of town and it's only there because he heard about the dead kids and wanted to help catch the kidnapper. So it's safe to assume when he started with the kidnappings, his brother wasn't there, so the setup of keeping the kids alive in one house and burying them in the other made sense. Now, this isn't stated outright, but I believe the brother came to his house the same day he brought the main kid into the basement, it explains why during the first day he watched the kid sleep and when he comes back later he says things are complicated and he never watched the kid sleep again.
Crimes of the Future was great, surprisingly both funny and sad with it's usage of body horror, though I was hoping for something crazier with a third act tagged on to the end of it.
the black phone has some stupid revelations, like the dude has his BLACK VAN for every one to see in his home when the police was looking for a black van
That’s exactly what I thought lol
I mean that’s like getting annoyed that they never explain why Freddy Krueger can enter the dreams of teenagers and kill them.
Who cares. That’s not what the movie is about!
The poster for The Black Phone made me think it was a Purge spin off film
same i almost didn't watch it because the purge movies bore me. glad i ended up watching it
Alien didn't need an opening death and that is one of the best horror movies.
Yup
Getting really sick of the "Curly-Headed Kids Who Talk Like Adults Solve A Horror Mystery While Riding Around On Their Bikes In The Early 80s" cliche 🤣
Not really a cliche since that was an entire sub genre of movies during the actual 80s.
@@iansmart4158 But that was.....42 Years ago 😅
Idk, there was no initial death in The Shining, and yet that remains a stellar horror movie. A preliminary death doesn't strike me as a necessary ingredient in a compelling horror movie.
No initial death in ALIEN or A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET or BLAIR WITCH
So many great films. Not sure what Adum was on with that one.
All those movies set tension in a really good way even without killing. Black phone basically used death to establish tone and tension, but cut away from the death in a boring way.
Maybe this is just me, but the plot holes as per the two houses didn’t bother me because I think I just assumed that The Grabber used his brother’s house to entrap and torment the kids because he derived some weird psychotic satisfaction from the thrill of his cokehead sibling almost catching him.
Hopefully you’ll talk about Jordan Peele’s NOPE in the next video. I’m really looking forward to that!
What an incredible movie!
sinister is my favorite horror movie and i shat my pants when deputy so and so showed up, then doubly shat my pants when i found out scott derrickson directed black phone too
Wow, not only are there no dislikes, there were no comments either. Flawless video.
CZcams got rid of dislikes
While watching Black Phone, i was thinking "This isn't The Shining but it could have been a MILLION TIME WORSE. decent is amazing "
Same feeling I had. It's no "The Shining" or "The Thing (1982)", but it's solid enough that I'll overlook the bad and focus on the excellent performances and atmosphere. A good horror film is 99% atmosphere to me. If it doesn't capture that sense of existential dread well enough, it will fail. The Black Phone captures that sense and juxtaposes it against a setting that feels very real and lived-in (barring the admittedly stilted dialogue at times), as well as most of the scenes taking place during the day. It subverts the horror trope that nighttime is when bad shit goes down but the day is a welcome reprieve. The only recent horror film I can think of that had a lot of scenes be during the day (and still be unsettling) is "It Follows".
What do you mean there was no opening death? It wasn't shown onscreen, but the kid that Finney played baseball with absolutely died. Especially since his ghost is one of the ones to contact him later.
The most enjoyment I personally got out of The Black Phone is the fact that the movie poster reminds me of that Stone Sour album cover.
man I respect Adams opinion and see where he’s coming from, but man I loved ‘Crimes of the future’
also think it’s really interesting how people just write this film off as having no point or is just objectively bad. really makes me wonder if people understand what the ending shot was supposed to mean (which basically ties in all the stuff in the beginning) Because all the organs he was growing eventually lead to him growing an organ that could digest plastic. If you haven’t seen ‘the passion of Joan of arc’ which Is definitely a better film, but the ending shot is a direct reference to that movie, and how and the end of the movie he became a martyr for the ‘cause’. Now with all this said this doesn’t make it a good movie, but I wouldn’t say it has literally zero point.
@@brian5900 I hate to be that guy, but for this one people legitimately just "don't get it" even at a basic conceptual level...
@@arabwaluigi5248 nobody in these comments said that.
I enjoyed Crimes but it felt like a pilot of a tv series that is suppose to establish the world before actual plot starts.
I don't think the film is particularly concerned with plot and is much more interested in the concepts and viscera of the presentation. The film says everything it means to perfectly fine, a TV series would just stretch that beyond the point it needs to be stretched. I mean I bet if Cronenberg thought the idea could fit in a serialized style he could pull it off, but I honestly doubt it would be very plot driven even in that circumstance.
everything wrong with The Black Phone makes a lot more sense when you realize the short story is only fifteen pages long
crimes of the future is incredible, amazing movie
I actually don't think the kid's dialogue was that inaccurate to real life. Kids talk weird
Sure do. And they also talk like that in tons of 70s and 80s movies.
Which is more specific to what he’s calling back to.
I’m glad that someone shares my opinion on Crimes of the Future lol. I felt kinda crazy when I saw it with my friends and they all loved it so much and I felt like I didn’t see much at all. The film has some great ideas but I would’ve loved it if the payoff was better or if there was some call to action or something…
“Scott Derrickson, who has made 6 other movies” I can’t tell if Doctor Strange being left out was a joke or not.
Completely disagree about Crimes of the Future, I thought it had so much to say. The discussion of human evolution, the question of when human beings can no longer be considered human and what that means, the endeavour of the artist to break down those boundaries yet simultaneously cling to their ideal of what "humanity" is, the transcendent nature of body modification, commoditization of human evolution preventing it's further growth, the visceral connection between bodily function and sex, modification as the key to living through climate crisis when everything else is too far gone. There's so much to chew on and mull over with this film, and that's barely touching on all the trans identity commentary throughout.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the sound design in the film, which to me was the most interesting technical aspect the film had going for it. So much chewing, swallowing and throats opening and closing, really immerses you in the physical sensations and makes you think about your body and it's smaller parts that make a greater whole, the grossness of them as a raw object but the beauty they take on in totality. And the whole movie centres itself around that idea too, the disgust we have for our own bodies yet the reverence we place on them at the same time, like the movie is begging you to open up your own body to see if you can see more than just a series of pumping organs. I haven't stopped thinkin about it since I saw it.
I'm sorry but the delivery of "i don't care" at 1:42 is gold
The dad definitely felt like a tom green character up until the last 2 scenes with him in it
This movie (Black Phone) is awesome. It’s a bit campy and goofy but I think it plays well into the aesthetic. I never felt that it was actually scary but it was compelling and satisfying. Felt like I was reading an indie horror comic
I thought this movie was amazing, and me hooked, scared, and rooting for the main character to escape. But I understand you expected something a lil different and thought it could've been improved.
Maybe there was a bit of clunky dialogue... but it's the good moments that stick with me after the movie. I love the comradery with the ball player at the start, and the visual of the ghosts talking to finney... but sound their voices sounding like its coming through a phone. I love how everything comes back at the end. Twist or no twist. Finney's safe, with new found confidence, after everyone had helped him, and thats the ending I wanted, so I'll sleep happy tonight haha.
I think Crimes of the Future had some interesting themes, but it was my first real body horror film and I only realized while watching it that I don't like body horror. I guess I'm just kinda squeamish.
You should definitely avoid David Cronenberg's entire filmography then---that's basically his specialty.
I'm excited to hear your thoughts on "Nope."
It was made clear in the movie that the brother wasn't permanently living there but was just visiting unexpectedly because he was "between jobs". If one of your relatives showed up at your door unexpectedly, you wouldn't make them stay in the empty house across the street either. Wouldn't that arouse even more suspicion? Still doesn't really makes sense why Ethan Hawke's character would continue with his usual serial killer routine instead of just killing the kid quickly so his brother wouldn't find out.
The take on Crimes of the Future is so trash and makes it sound like he's never seen a Cronenberg and missed the point entirely. I dont think it was the best movie but Adum had nothing to say 😅
I’m pretty sure Adum hasn’t seen many if any other Cronenberg flix.
At least not the vintage ones. Cuz those are also very cheap, very bare, and very concept first (plot and characters last)
Seeing the dad's face pop out from behind the newspaper at 0:20 made me laugh so hard when I saw it in theater, dude looks like Count Olaf
Weird how Adam talked about these two movies in completely different ways and yet gave them the same score.
The Black Phone actually directly misleads the view about the position of the basement and the position of the residence of the Grabber's brother by panning in a vertical shot of the two being connected. The brother was actually staying in the bodies house most of the time as evidenced by the difference in house layout and the Grabber's comfortability of waiting for Finn to come up to the first floor. It's just that for some completely unexplained reason the brother goes to and from each house throughout the movie in order to make things more convenient writing wise.
this is just not true. the house with the bodies was completely empty of furniture
In the scene in the black phone where the little girl was beaten by the father she actually gave a very very great Performance. Her crying and emotions were pretty amazing
Only Adam would complain about not seeing children die in a film.
Crimes of the Future was such a nothing burger, and in an empty theater I still couldn’t understand a single thing that was said
Well that prolly didn’t help you getting any of its ideas if you couldn’t understand anyone.
"Nothing burger" gotta be the most ill-advised description of this film I ever seen lmao
Maybe "plastic burger" would be more fitting
I don't think there's many films whereby you see children get graphically and gorily kill on-screen, though. The only films I can think of whereby this happens is Possessor and The House That Jack Built...
"Who's hungry?" animated short is a better kids-vs-maniac story than the Black Phone.
Omg when I was watching the black phone yesterday I was thinking how I can't wait for your review 😂
I used to work for a company that catered movie/tv sets. My buddy told me one time he saw Ethan Hawk palm a slice of cake and eat it like an apple.
Based. Or stress binging.
@@hayuseen6683 Could not tell you.
The black balloon detail bothered me. How did he leave them at the crime scene? We saw the grabber use them to disorient Finn when he kidnaps him. So does he usually grab the kid, aided by balloons, then remove a balloon and tie it to something? Why would he risk that? That bugged me the whole movie.
Man you were right about the last few minutes. Had me rolling on the floor laughing.
I felt it would have worked as a short film better. Start with him waking up in the basement. End with him leaving. A tight 30-45 minutes.
Crimes of the Future def isn't Cronenberg's best work, but this "review" of it was legitimately one of the laziest things I've heard from Adam.
Yup, just breezed past an entire densely packed piece for a half assed pseudo-analysis of the plot, if you can even call it that. Focusing purely on the plot with this film is already a disservice, but doing it the way Adum does it here comes off as if he didn't even try to engage with the film at all.
It got the review it deserved
Thank you, thank you thank you. I feel like you’re the only film critic that tells it like it is. Watching this movie was exactly like you said. The dialogue is forced the child actors were average at best and too many times we were force fed what the director wanted is to know. Like when dinner is in the basement and the grabber needs to tell us how sound proof it is and how he did it himself. That whole scene was forced and I feel like it could have been cut and just showed us the clip of him screaming but it’s silent outside the window. That would have been enough to give us all the info from that scene. I did like the movie overall, but it doesn’t mean there can’t be criticisms of it. Story was ok, some of the escape stuff was a little unbelievable, like the perfectly square holes he broke into foot thick concrete with a ceramic toilet cover 😂😂. But a fun watch if you can look past some stuff and some of the dialogue.
Crimes of the Future is certainly not Cronenberg's best but a 5/10? Really?
Here I am thinkin it's the best I've seen by him but I am also flabbergasted by a 5/10 here. Seems like Adum just didn't try to engage with it much at all beyond the surface, which honestly isn't all that surprising to me as he does it a lot.
@@schnozchan6606 Fair enough if it is your favorite by him. I can respect that, it definitely was an enjoyable watch. My personal favorite has to be either Naked Lunch or Scanners. Yeah that is definitely something he does too often with these reviews.
Doctor Sleep had a child murder scene, so I don't really know why this movie couldn't.
Shocking the audience wasn’t why it was going for.
The Grabber? Is Dylan from The Quarry.
I don’t know where the Love For the black phone is coming From. That Sh*t was So Boring To me
The ending was boring as hell for me. The good guy wins in the end with the power of his friend helping him and the bad guy loses. Then he goes back to school and is revered as a hero. What a bore. Even a cliche Goosebumps twist in the last 2 minutes would have been better than that.
Weird that theyre both 5/10. Seemed like very different opinions to have the same score
Yep, totally.
What does it mean when people say it's cheesy is that the same thing as corny but what's the definition because I don't understand what that means everybody says it in a lot of reviews but I never understood what it meant can someone tell me what it means
I believe that the Grabbers brother was visiting during the time that Finny was kidnapped and he mentioned to the police he was following the case and came to visit his brother to be closer to where the kidnappings were happening so he wasn’t living in the house during all the kid beatings. However u did bring up some things I didn’t notice lol
Episode 9999 of Adum wanting to see a child death
i saw the black phone last night and i enjoyed the phone call scenes a lot and the flashback scenes, but that's about it. it was an okay scary movie.
Okay but why’s the phone in the basement tho 🤣
ring ring, I’m a ghost. oh no!
Did you watch "Crimes of the Future" during the Cannes Film Festival?
This has been a good video to watch and have a nice day everybody :]
Adam gives his badass opinions pwnage
Ok good I thought I was the only one picking up on the Silent Hill: The Room vibes in The Black Phone
It almost felt like Cronenberg was parodying himself, or making a movie that people woudlve expected from him. Like the premise was written 20 or 30 years ago when it would've been a bit more relevant.
He was playing to his strengths, and if you think transhumanism and microplastics aren't relevant today then I've got news for you; something like 80% of the people on Earth are walking around with microplastics in their blood. So you're a walking, talking shampoo bottle and you don't even know it.
8:30 holy shit lol
The Uvalde line made me cackle like a madman, alone in my home
I’ve never left a movie before but I genuinely almost did after that bathroom scene in The Black Phone
Marvellous Chester is at it again