Are these RTX 4090 "extras" worth it? ASUS TUF & Colorful iGame Vulcan Review
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- ASUS RTX 4090 TUF OC & Colorful iGame RTX 4090 Vulcan OC-V Review
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Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC
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NVIDIA RTX 4090 Founders Edition
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My Build with Colorful RTX 3080 Vulcan in the Tower 100 Case - • Building (and testing)...
Tweaktown COLORFUL iGAME RTX 4090 VULCAN OC-V review
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0:00 Intro
1:44 ASUS RTX 4090 TUF OC - Price, Features
5:06 ASUS RTX 4090 TUF OC - Typical Gaming Performance
5:47 ASUS RTX 4090 TUF OC - Overclocking
7:57 Colorful iGame RTX 4090 Vulcan - Price, Features
13:14 Colorful iGame RTX 4090 Vulcan - Typical Gaming Performance
13:51 Colorful iGame RTX 4090 Vulcan - Overclocking
15:02 Clock Speeds & Temps Comparison
16:44 Power Draw & Acoustics Comparison
17:47 3DMark TSE & Cyberpunk 2077 performance
18:20 Conclusion
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It's so unfortunate that Nvidia took what miners and scalpers did to the 30 series MSRP and baked it into the 40 series and killing the hype for a new generation. I'm happy for the people that have 4090 money to burn, but hard pass for me
I hear jealousy in your tone... 4090 buyers are burning money? Very subjective as to who is buying the 4090.. Just because you don't want to, doesn't mean there isn't someone else who can justify it.
@@pc4me67 There is no justification, they are way over priced and only an elitist A Hole would think different
@@pc4me67 And I hear a 12 year old keyboard warrior typing some very salty response
@@Bahcrie hardly defending nvidia, more so the people spending their money on what they want. The 4080 pricing is a joke 100% gen on gen, the 4090 imo is sitting in the halo stratosphere it is.
Difference between then and now is pretty big economic down turn as well. I already overpayed last gen, gonna skip this gen and possibly the next (unless pricing gets a lot better in 5k series)
I can't say that I'm interested in any GPU that's MSRP is over $800 USD. I can only manage about $900 USD after taxes and shipping for a GPU every 5-6 years. I bought a 2080 at launch for MSRP, and I managed to snag 3080 at MSRP just a few months ago, but Nvidia has literally gone insane with their prices. They want to keep that shortage profit margin.
They did it on purpose to clear 3080 stock that finally got delivered as crypto crashed and demand evaporated over night
I think it's sane to be one generation behind, you're still gonna benefit from the huge jump in performance only lagging behind alittle bit but paying way less :D
@@laggmonstret I dont even know how getting the latest card, became a thing. Apple users 🙄. Both my kids game in their rooms. One has a 2080 (I know, i was trying to get away from xbox) the other a 3080. His room melts in the summertime. I cant even imagine a 4090.
@@ksks6802 lol heat is a forgotten issue with more power draw! My office room gets hot too even if I live in a cold country,
@@laggmonstret absolutely. the upper tier last gen hardware is more than capable of maxing out my monitor setups on ultra settings in the games i play, so ill be shopping for those dropping-prices last gen models
Comparing to last gen cards, I think the 4090 and 4080 are shockingly expensive.
@@ConsiderFirstCnE Yeah Nvidia want to scalp their own cards😂
True for the 4080, but the 4090 is dam cheap for the performance up lift almost 2x performance at 4K from the 3090.
I'm still gonna buy RTX 4080 than 4090 due to temperature/Watt the GPU is using.
@@thunwa55 yeah for a price of your house / apartment 😂
But the 4090s price per performance is better though
Nice to come across a review that points out the lack of value in the 4090 OC editions 👍
Just got the Pauls Hardware gaming desk mat, works amazingly on a very slick desk surface. Very happy.
I’m honestly scared for the mid and low end 40 series cards. Imagine a $400 USD 4050
I think it’s gonna be reality sadly 😢
I'm more worried about what the RTX 4070 Ti price will be?
And you guys deserve it.
That'll probably be the Strix model LOL
Nvidia will just point to their copious amount of 30-series cards if you want something cheaper from them.
Nice having the OC button on the I/O plate - much better. Also the LCD display options on the Vulcan could be very good for many builders.
I think that the Asus-Noctua edition gpu was a nice example on how brands can create interesting non-FE models.
Ordered Strix 4090 OC today, cant wait for it to arrive next week :)
Thanks for always keeping it real with your reviews.
I'm liking this. Thanks Joe and Paul!
My 2080 super is still stomping so much ass. I'm having a really hard time justifying an upgrade. I've been doing this PC gaming thing since the 90s. These prices just aren't it.
Hard agree. Not to mention that the next generation AAA games (e.g. Starfield and AC) still aren't out, so the need to upgrade just isn't quite there, either.
I just upgraded a 2080ti to a 3090. It's faster, of course. But it was totally unessicary after I got everything up and running. New CPU, new GPU, same games designed for the lowest common denominator, consoles. 1440p gaming is where it's at IMO, 2080 still cranks.
@@Ferrislilly 2 months ago I did a fully new build from the ground up, 12900k, Samsung G7 1440p monitor, RTX 3090 I have zero issues playing anything at max settings. Buying a 4090 or 4080 is for 4k in my opinion, no point for 1440p if you own a 3090. With my primary game being FFXIV, my 3090 caps at the game engines FPS limit playing at 1440p at max settings.
I game on a 4K display so I upgraded my 2080S to a 3080 Ti about a year ago. Not only did I overpay for it (horribly), but it doesn’t even do 4K all *that* well in AAA single-player games.
On top of that, I can count the number of such AAA games that I’ve played since buying the card on one hand. So all in all I regret it pretty terribly. Should’ve kept the 2080.
@@jamescunningham8092 you still have a really good card, the 30 series was advertised for 4k but really it’s what the 40 series can achieve well at max settings. I never went 4k because I like the refresh rate on 2k resolution monitors and 4k monitors haven’t quite caught up yet
I found the memory overclocking on my TUF OC fantastic
Dunno if it's the same else where but here in Australia we have the ROG strix 4080 for and Galax RTX 4090 SG both selliing for the same price. The 4080 series pricing is just plain stupid.
If I was buying the 4090 it would 100% be the Colorful version. That LCD add on is awesome especially since they include the dock if you don’t want it attached to the GPU.
I bought an EVGA 780 back in the day for half the price of all of these cards. I think the main line I have to draw for myself is what games I want to play and what performance do I consider reasonable. Nevermind "future proofing" if Russia go another step further it's game over anyway! The current performance of most new components are pretty dam good. I'm still rocking an 8350 in my main with an rtx 2060 that's a Dell reference card. Going all new as my case it's the obsidian 300 something (it's too big) and the new socket means I can finally upgrade my ram from DDR3 lol
Nuclear apocalypse helping make reasonable hardware purchase choices. 2023 is going to be wild.
Paul’s videos is life
that vulcan actually adds something more for the extra price. The others should take note.
The prices are silly but damn, that Vulcan card is actually brilliant!
For a conclusive cooler comparison we would need noise-normalized temps at, e.g., 45 dBA. Any chance we get those in the next 4090 video? Plus coil whine observations of course. Otherwise love your content!
I have the 3070 Aourus Master that has the built in screen. I thought it was gimmicky at first but it’s actually really cool and useful so the LCDs on the colorful look really cool
I know 3 different people with that card and unfortunately none of them can get the Gigabyte RGB software to see the screen on the GPU. Great card otherwise.
And the Tuf OC can be flashed and perform the same as the Strix fyi. I got EKWB front and back active plates in mine which are the same for the Tuf and Strix model and they perform identical after flashing the bios.
Paul here in the UK the RTX 4080 Founders Edition was available online to buy yesterday from 2:45pm until 11:45pm. There's not even the demand for the "cheaper" founders edition cards. 3080s lasted about 2 minutes. Too many people can see they are not worth the money.
The dual hdmi 2.1 on the asus tuf oc is the only reason i bought it. 2 oled hdmi TV's make this a necessity for me
For me which manufacture I pick is going to be if EKWB has a block to fit it . but Inno3d has a 4090 card with a water block fitted :)
Your self deprecating sense of humour is a highlight in my week
Great video man, keep up the good fight
Nobody reviewed the pcbs of partner boards. I heard that some 4090s use cheap capacitors which will fail with frequent overclocking.
At these price, they should come with the rest of the PC, CPU, motherboard, RAM, SSDs and PSU. The 4090 costs more than my entire desktop set up.
Same and gad to save up till now to get one
I am waiting to see the testing/benchmarks for the 7900 XTX. It doesn't have to beat the NVIDIA options just get close and NVIDA 4080 sales will get even worse. Maybe it will force them to drop the price but I doubt it
I have the TUF Gaming OC. It can hit over 3Ghz super easy and is very quiet for me. Still waiting for the EK block to ship
Man, that turbo button is such a throwback. Anyone remember how old IBM PCs had turbo buttons in the early 90s? Every thing old is eventually new again.
My family’s 486 from 1992 had a turbo button! It never seemed to do anything noticeable, though. I miss that machine; it’s probably in my brother’s basement, though I’d be astonished if it still works.
@@jamescunningham8092 It was confusing because turbo was the default for processors and pushing the turbo button actually turned off turbo and put it into a cutdown mode closer to an older spec cpu. But you had to reboot the PC for it take effect. The reasoning was that back in the day, older software actually could crash when running on a cpu clocked too high, so being able to throttle down the cpu allowed older programs to be compatible.
My rtx 4090 unfortunately does not come with cool extra features due to the fact I do not own one
I think the Vulkan screen thing actually adds a little value to the card, as opposed to some of the crap we see from AIB card manufacturers, like overbuilt coolers slapped on cards that don't need it as they try to justify the higher margin pricing.
Thanks Paul!
Are you using MSI afterburner for the onscreen display? It looks different from the one that I use.
My apologies & ordered...THANK YOU Paul....
I'm really looking forward to buying a 5090 when they get their act together
Thanks Paul great comparison, I think I will skip this generation and wait 2 years for the $2500 RTX5090
Don’t forget the cost of building a power plant in your backyard!
I have a suprim liquid x and yet I want that colorful version just for the screen
Hey where would I learn to OC my gpu safely? I usually have it optimized but need to learn this myself for knowledge and money lol.
when I bought my gpu this year, I chose Colorful they had a good looking triple fan gpu design and they aren't expensive as ASUS
Colorful looks like a solid card but they need a better company name. It seems like broken English to call a company "Colorful" and yes I know they're Chinese but still I can't take them seriously
i own vulkan before it is so amazing than my current card has lcd and vapor chamber.i broke my OC buttonbefor emailed colorful and send me free 2 OC button for free and its DHL too. i love customer service of COLORFUL.
Does the LED on the 4090 OC ASUS model not light up and just the little symbol on far right does???
hows the coil whine on the asus tuf at stock? I have been hearing it's not that good.
I like to imagine the OC cards are binned a little bit at least to justify the price difference. I wouldn't put money on it, just hoping that is the case.
after testing all these brands for rtx 4090 what was the best in terms of quality ?
Will the Asus Noctua 4080 reach the same speeds as the 4090 with a OC?
Thanks Paul
OMG. Whilst enjoying a frosty beer, did I stumble across a brand new Pauls Hardware?
cheers! 🍻
something to consider when looking at card prices, you should look up which cards are using reference boards and or what components they use on those boards. The reference boards use garbage whch won't last much past warranty terms. Custom boards seem to be built better than fe which is built better than reference boards. If you're paying crazy money on these cards, I for one want good components.
you must have seen the meme on how to say GIF🤣 i'm glad someone finally put it out there!!! lol
Igame always design insane looking cards and include great extras in the box. They seriously need to push globally
By the time I get a new card the Ti versions are out and I've yet to buy anything above a xx70 due to my pockets.
All I could get was the the pny 4090. Doesn’t really compare to these higher tier cards as fast as pcb design, oc, etc but I don’t think it’ll matter that much in performance wise
I think it's literally 1 or 2% in some cases. It's irrelevant. Congrats on your card.
maybe i missed it, but i don't think i have heard anyone talk about idle power draw yet. i think i remember 30xx having high idle power draw.
how does one get a hold of the colorful GPUs?
Hey Paul! Love the video, but can't you also say that the Asus Strix card is not worth it because it's only a 30mhz difference? Everyone loves to be the ROG fanboy! So why get the ROG Strix/Strix OC when you can get the regular ASUS TUF card? Not only do they bin to see if it's a Strix vs TUF card they also see if it meets the requirements to be the OC edition of that model.
The reason why the 4080 isn't selling in a nutshell - The people who have the type of money to spend on a graphics card that price already has f*ck you money and a few hundred is pocket change
i ran push pull on msi supreme nice temps
Sad for such expensive cards that the OC versions don't really offer any meaningful changes in terms of components/build vs the base level cards.
Why is it that the Chinese card has more cool stuff/factor and is cheaper than the US cards. Lol
Granted I would never spend that much for a GPU. Maybe when I hit 60. (Sadly closer than it sounds.)
Thanks for this video Paul. You are still awesome!
the 4080 costs about 20-22 000 SEK (swedish crowns) here in Sweden.
20 000 sek = 1880 USD. Ouch.
The "1200 USD" price-tag, does it include tax and everything in the US? Is it the final total price or do you actually pay more?
@Paul Why in the UK do we pay $800 more for the cheapest 4090 from shops?
i wish we could get USA prices in uk, the cheapest 4090 here is $2300 or £1999, the better ones are $3000 and thats from reputable shops, at $1599 it should be £1345. dont know where they get the conversion rates from but it feels like we are being ripped off in the UK, Nvidia are charging us scalper prices
60MHz - you couldn't adjust by 60Hz :) I love the Aorus Master 4090 - not for the LED screen though, just because cooling is excellent and performance is great and it isn't too loud even under load.
Does only the 4090 strix go to 133% on the power limit
ill have one after there old teck buy about 5 years from now
I'd get a 4090 FE if I could find one at retail MSRP... but I'm in no hurry as my 3080 10GB still satisfies.
Just upgraded from an RX560 2gb to an EVGA 3070 FTW3. The difference is mindblowing. Can't see a need for any of those crazy expensive cards.
This is why I’m waiting for the 7900 XTX.
Did Paul lose weight or is the TUF just that big that it makes him look smaller?
Review the Zotac extreme airo
4090 phantom here, +200 on the core +1000 on the memory it get stable to 2960 mhz timespy extreme score 20600. the only issue: fan noise is horrendous. All those cards hit the voltage limit so buy an msrp model, just do your research on the fan noise in advance and avoid gainward cose a lot of ppl complain about the noise
I would love the 1600 tuf 4090. Want to sell me yours? Been waiting for more stock to come in but Nvidia is waiting for more 30 series cards to sell first. Guess I’ll see what AMD bring to the table
I guess you could say this was quite the Colorful review :) And yeah their OC versions are really dumb, but thats because they simply cant make much profit elsewhere besides those models. and they hope people buy those because base models as you know dont make them much at all for profit.
I'm kinda ok with the 4090 pricing, they are halo products and a "look how fast we can make our cards".. Kinda like super cars.
The 4080 cards are just stupidly priced though! Specially when you know they will release a TI version later.
how is the coil whine on the vulcan? i know asus 4090s are pretty terrible
Is there a 4090 that is upgraded to DP 1.4?
@02:40 Here's another secret, you don't even need to overclock it. As it will boost higher thanks to nvidia boost tech. You're literally just paying for two letters, O and C. That TUF non-OC will even perform on par with the much more expensive ROG strix, with the strix you're paying for the looks
And very slightly better air cooling. On water they are the same.
No my 4090 did not come with any extras, because I refuse to buy one from a scalper. Therefore I don't have one.
I really looked forward to the TUF 4080 but as it is, if not only the price, it’s just too big
When I saw the temps for that liquid x, I was like, that is so wrong!!!!
I own one and its like 60 c or less most of the time.
Went the gigabyte gaming oc here in Australia. $3k vs $3.45k for the TUF OC...absolutely awesome card the gigabyte, surprised about the quality, certainly better than the TUF OC... The TUF non-oc does not exist here in the land of Oz, only in launch week.
The prices of these things in AUS is fkng ridiculous. I run Quadro's for quite a while as i did more work then play on the PC but i was considering putting a GTX alongside a quadro so i could pay less and get more game performance then buying a higher end (and equally ridiculously priced) Quadro... well thats out the window now as the gaming cards are taking the spot of the Quadro line in price. I can only imagine what they are going to charge for the Ada Quadro's.
As a 2080ti owner, and spending $1,100 on that card in 2019. $1,200 on 4080 seemed fitting for a nice upgrade and the same money I was willing to pay. Plus, the power usage on the 4090 is a little much for me. I know everyone hates the 4080 because of the price, but I got a Tuf 4080 for $1,199.(It comes in 4 days, I am excited).
I spend 1400 euro on 2080ti and spending 1800 euro on 4090 feels value to mean lol. Always had to skip bang for buck generations because i couldn.’t find any due to how 70% of users here are friging miners
I spend 1400 euro on 2080ti and spending 1800 euro on 4090 feels value to mean lol. Always had to skip bang for buck generations because i couldn.’t find any due to how 70% of users here are friging miners
Show me where the good ones are in stock
When these are at a garage sale in 15 years and I can get one for a case of SPAM, I'll try 'em out
Why is not all the GPU's power delivery done thru the socket?
Please hear me out.
The socket could be designed with a heavy duty and robust power delivery component capable of delivering ALL the power ANY GPU could need or want.
One of the side benefits would be eliminating that unsightly video power cable.
Is none an option Paul?
Mine came with the pretty gnarly coil whine audio feature unfortunately...
The TUF Gaming is by far my favorite 4090. I love the understated looks with just a touch of bling.
I don't think they even launched the base version on the TUF Gaming 4090 in Canada. For that matter I didn't see any of the ASUS cards in Canada, I know there were some though because they're now in their hands of scalpers asking 30% - 50% above MSRP. Thankfully they don't appear to be selling. I've seen MSI and Zotac 4090s pop into stock at retail AIB prices, and they don't last too long. I'm in no rush at all, and I'm hoping the AMD cards are in a large enough volume that they're more available. We need this shortage sh*t to end, there's no reason for it anymore. If there's a shortage it's, by design to keep prices high. Otherwise I expect we will see better pricing soon.
@Jesse M yeah I ended up getting an MSI Gaming X Trio, but then the SUPRIM came into stock so I bought that too... My Trio should be here next week, but I won't get the SUPRIM until a week or so later.
I'm hoping the TUF Gaming shows up before I have to keep one of these. Then I'll order it and take back both the MSI cards. The sucky part is I missed a drop of the TUF on Dec 14th 👎😕
If I have to keep one of the MSI cards... I'll probably keep the SUPRIM, I think it's just a better looking card, I don't know I'll have to see them in person and see which one runs better etc...
@Jesse M I did a custom build on ibuypower and selected a non OC Tuf. I hope i love the card 🥰
@Jesse MM So my Gaming X Trio arrived a few days ago and I've resisted opening the box so that I could return it after the Suprim arrived. However, I cancelled the Suprim today because I was able to get the TUF Gaming when it magically appeared in stock! It's supposed to be here on the 3rd of Jan, and I'm a happy guy. I'll head out to Best Buy and take back the Gaming X Trio and with my $1,300 in gift cards in hand I'll apply them to the ASUS TUF Gaming 4090 to ease the purchase price of it a bit.
I'm pumped though, it was the ASUS was the card I really wanted, & I didn't really feel any excitement getting either of the MSI cards. This one though I'm really looking forward to getting it into my rig and gaming. I might have to take a couple of days off work 😂
2:23 "but those are for rich people, and we're poor people" 🤣🤣🤣
A reason 4080 is a nice choice, is if you only have 400-500 bucks to spend, and sell your current card to make up the rest so a 1200 to 1300 card is easier to buy then cheapest 4090s which are 2000 to 2100
My Galax came with a solid RGB anti sag bracket and a 4th fan for additional blow through.
I love that screen. I hate that Gigabyte made the screen (Aorus Master and Xtreme) completely useless if you vertically mount their GPU.
🥲 I can relate.
A famous channel said a few hours ago that 4080 sold out as soon as they went on sale. With people making queues to buy it. Paul says they are sitting in the shelf.
Well, which one is it?
And thats why they got the dlss 3.0 (and the previous) cause natively can't play 60fps sad :( i thought this can do more and its the Badass of Videocards nowadays... when i got my 8800gtx and play call of juarez at 60fps true locked (vsync limited) (previously i had 1900xt in crossfire) that was the good times and up until my gtx470 i could play all my games in 60fps 1080p after that hell break loose :( Quality gone out of the window 🤣
I need a new PSU if I gonna buy a RTX 4080. My current PSU is only on 750 W
We really need better Colorful support in the US. I have been watching them over the past couple GPU generations. They really overengineer their cards with better design. We just cannot get them here without going through a third part of a third party. Making returns in case of defects just a year long endeavor. Hoping to see this brand pick up its support here in the states. We really need another high quality option now that EVGA is out of the gpu game. Hopefully Colorful's costumer care is as good as their build quality, for which I have no experience with.
First and foremost they need a better company name lol
@@eclipsetrekker yes I do agree. finding them from alllll the other color references is not simple.
In Thailand, their gpus are more affordable than the other brands and their support is very helpful and reliable.
Nvidia priced me out of all of these. Guess I'll wait for the 4070 Ti in January and hope it's well below $1k.
If the 4080 is $1200 I would not be surprised if they charge 1k for the 4070ti. But what will actually happen is AMD's 7900's will force them to lower the price of the 4080 so realistically I think the 4070 will end up in the $700-$800 range.
4070 ti is crap as I expected (which i wanted to buy but was like yeah nvidia won’t make it 1070, 3070 good)
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