RTX 4090 Water vs Air Testing! Gigabyte Gaming OC & MSI SUPRIM Liquid X
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- RTX 4090 Water vs Air Testing! Gigabyte Gaming OC & MSI SUPRIM Liquid X
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► SPECIAL NOTE
MSI said my GDDR6X VRAM temp readings look hotter than expected, and I will be returning the card to them so they can check if there's anything wrong with the cooler mount or otherwise. The card performed as I showed you though so I'll be leaving this video up, but I've added two links with reviews from other channels -- Techtesters (who showed gaming VRAM temps in the 74-77C range) and Optimum Tech (who showed 80-82C VRAM temps during a Furmark stress test).
Other MSI Suprim Liquid X Reviews -
Optimum Tech: • Watercooled RTX 4090 -...
Techtesters: • MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Li...
► TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro: Air vs Water
2:02 Important Note: What Makes Each RTX 4090 Different
3:06 Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC - Price, Features
5:55 Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC - Typical Gaming Performance
6:49 Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC - Overclocking
8:25 MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X - Price, Features
11:44 MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X - Typical Gaming Performance
12:27 MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X - Overclocking
14:00 Clock Speeds & Temps Comparison
15:30 Power Draw & Acoustics Comparison
16:38 3DMark TSE & Cyberpunk 2077 performance
17:42 Conclusion
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Hey Everyone! Thanks for watching this video, I have an update for the MSI Suprim Liquid X card. MSI said my GDDR6X VRAM temp readings look hotter than expected, and I will be returning the card to them so they can check if there's anything wrong with the cooler mount or otherwise. The card performed as I showed you though so I'll be leaving this video up, but I've added two links to the description with reviews from other channels -- Techtesters (who showed gaming VRAM temps in the 74-77C range) and Optimum Tech (who showed 80-82C VRAM temps during a Furmark stress test).
Other MSI Suprim Liquid X Reviews -
Optimum Tech: czcams.com/video/TmbOew3HIZk/video.html
Techtesters: czcams.com/video/kiza_FTzbHU/video.html
Hotter that expected RAM temps and hotter than expected back lash from the price increase....that was a miscommunication^^
the vram was Always hotter than on aircooler, Look on the Evga Hybrid cards.
Wait till the 4090 decides to become the avatar. But first it must Include earth, and, more importantly fire
Paul I doubt you'll see my message but I just picked up a 4090 suprim liquid x and I have afterburner 4.6.5 and newest Nvidia driver. My card runs 2865mhz stock settings and my power limit let's me go to 125%. Edit- just figured out why, I have a different bios then you. @Paul'sHardware
@@garyharris8082 That one there was a violation
The brushed metal finish on the Suprim is a nice touch.
I agree!
@@paulshardware Can you change the fans on the MSI to Lian li Fans?
@@matthewrezuke8130 was wondering that myself if you can change the fans out 🤔
@@TrigunV4S I must know! My ocd would go into overdrive
@@matthewrezuke8130 you can but the included fans are top of the line.
I have the 4090 liquid, just two normal 4pin fan headers by the radiator.
The on screen teardown is good, as long as the information is exactly what's in the card. Physical teardowns are good for DIY repair and refurbishment, its nice to see the little tricks during disassembly that prohibit "one click or push" and its broken.
Paul, your videos from around 12-13 years ago (when you were still working with Newegg) taught me how to build desktops. And now here I am still watching your content.
Thanks for reviewing and comparing two different models of the cards. I'm obviously much more knowledgeable about this stuff nowadays, however, I am looking for both the performance and temperature differences between all of these 4090 cards - as I plan on getting one (if they're ever actually in stock, haha).
So, needless to say, it doesn't seem to matter which one you go with in terms of gaming performance. But the temperature differences are definitely interesting. So thank you for showing that!
I have pre-ordered one of the new power supplies so that I don't have to use that crummy adapter cable... But unfortunately, the PSU will arrive next week which will be way before I can even order a 4090 lol. Oh well. Maybe before the holidays I'll be able to snag the MSI Suprim X (air-cooled edition). Fingers crossed 🤞
And thanks again!
Thanks for all the hard work Paul I enjoy these vids even though I’m skipping upgrades this year
Nice job on the review. It seems like some cards have the voltage locked and are up against the voltage limit, so increasing the power does nothing. But the voltage is adjustable on some. However it also seems like overclocking doesn't gain much performance and produces a lot more heat. What I'm gathering is that all the cards are very similar in performance and the FE is right there with everyone else.
Love that Suprim! Great review Paul!
Great video and love the styling of the MSI SUPRIM. Dissembling a card is always more satisfying but time constraints understandable.
I really enjoy this type of comparison. Seems like the raw performance is pretty equal. But if you have a network, sound, or storage card installed then the MSI might be a winner due to space. And if you want something quieter, then Gigabyte gives you that with their fan/cooler design. And of course if you want the most aesthetically pleasing, just pick your favorite and don't worry too much about losing performance.
I've heard it suggested elsewhere that Nvidia are binning their GPUs and keeping the best for their own FE cards - which further makes the value proposition for 3rd party cards challenging. This was part of the discussion when EVGA left the market and how they couldn't make a profit when directly competing with Nvidia - particularly when their solutions with increased cooling and power delivery were having to try make up for the silicon itself potentially being slightly less-capable.
I have a think for AIO coolers. I really enjoy the freedom to move the heat load from the middle of the case to the outer edge., allowing the rest of your system to run cooler.
I'm in love with the Suprim's design, both this Gen and last, but not it's price.
150 premium on AIO is not a bad deal at all - for comparison, just a water block from AlphaCool for custom loop will set you back more than that. The question is whether this time around they used appropriate materials or it's still bound to corrode through and terminally fail after few months of use. Both MSI and Gigabyte released junk for 30 series in this regard.
MSI literally just scalped it themselves, they just raised it almost 200 bucks on their site.
@@justinvanhorne9958 Seems to be the case for all RTX 40 series to be honest - I'm yet to see any available for it's MSRP. Over here in the UK prices are ridiculous - Asus TUF was supposed to be same as Founder (1699gbp) yet it somehow managed to go all the way to 2100... that is if you can even find it anywhere in stock since apparently they've had like 3 of these cards for the entire country by the looks of it...
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@@justinvanhorne9958 MSI said it was an error. The increased price on their site was only up for a couple hours. There was no price change notice sent to retailers and the retailers kept the prices at the original launch price. However, MSI does have a history of charging above their MSRP on their site during the RTX 3000 shortages.
I was waiting for this!!! Thanks Paul!!
Thank You! Been waiting for this for days 🥺
Good video Paul, thanks! Looking forward to the teardowns!
you can just tape a thermal sensor to the inlet of the radiator to get a pretty good water temp measurement.
this is a great idea
@@paulshardware I have a lazer gun that reads temp. I use this on vehicles a lot, this might be a more accurate easy solution since you can point it between the fins and get an actual temp reading.
That's good to know they are all pretty similar. I tried to get the suprim liquid first that sold out first, I ended up snagging the gaming OC on launch day and it's been plenty fine good to know it's not a big performance trade off and if anything the memory temps are a bit cooler which is nice
i've heard that mem overclock yields the biggest gains. so that's a big plus on the gigabyte
Love your videos Paul, attempting to make my own right now
This is wtf I been waiting on. Glad you got it out.
Good job Paul 👍 one of the best 4090s testing I’ve seen so far in CZcams
It was at least honest with no Pimping. I hate Pimps.
darn... i miss EVGA
The 4000 series has been completely underwhelming for me without EVGA.
This, however is the best possible option.
> i miss EVGA
Fer sure...
Same. What happened to them
@@PassportBrosBusinessClass or just skipping 4000 series all to gether and waiting for 50000
@@93ChayZ see you in 2025
12:37 100% power limit for different models mean different things. On a Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX4090, 100% power is 450W while on an Asus Strix 4090, 100% is 500W. You need to consider what the 100% on a Suprim X is to know the actual power limit at 110%.
I'm a bit appauled that the 4090 cards here in sweden / EU cost around $2500 and up.
But it's nice to see more reviews on the 4090, thanks Paul!
Nordic prices in a nutshell
yep, cheapest 4090 Strix I can find is 2500USD here in Denmark (or 19000 DKK), altho lesser variants like the TUF version can be found for 2.1k USD (all out of stock though, only preorder).
To be fair, the 25% sales tax for the 1600USD msrp does equal more or less that price, around 2-2.1k USD so it's not as bad as what I've seen elsewhere, but some places still try to ask almost 3k for base spec 4090 cards. 3 years ago you could get an entire top-end gaming pc for that money.
Also Founders card just straight up isn't sold here, at least not yet. Who knows if Nvidia will even bother.
Strix is £3000 here in Uk on ebay… its nuts!
@@iiNNeX Why are the prices so ridiculous in Europe compared to US?
I would be interested to see temp differences in the suprim x liquid vs taking a suprim x and putting a waterblock on it to a custom loop
Good info of tests on these cards. Fun and exciting to see the results of the tests on these two cards. As I can not afford them. Yet I enjoy and find value in your tests.
what rpms were the fans going to? is 100% fan speed similar rpm for all the fans?
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts on those graphics cards, Paul 😉👍!
It’s also worth noting that the CDPR engine has traditionally always run better on intel hardware by ~15%. Wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Raptor Lake avg around the mid 50s fps at native 4k full rtx settings.
if possible, I would love to see a direct comparison of the gigabyte waterforce vs the gigabyte windforce cards. the waterforce has an integrated 360mm aio and a full-cover block design that cools gpu, memory, AND power delivery. and I *think* the board is the same between them...
I'm going to put a ekwb waterblock on my gigabyte gaming oc 4090. I'm expecting zero performance increase and just the benefit of a small total gpu and block integrated into my existing waterloop. I'll run the card aircooled for a while and I expect its just fine too.
@@stevenross-watt8640 the size change might help with cooling the rest of the system haha
@@ghomerhust :). Having 3x360mm at 45mm thick and 9 fans helps the cooling of everything. You just gotta be bothered with the hassle of adjusting your loop and pipework each time you make a change :).
Its not a full cover waterblock, the waterblock sits only on the gpu and just the copper plate extends over the memory and vrm, water is only flowing over the gpu part of the copper plate, its no better than this msi.
In regards to 10:08, yes I would love to see tear down videos. Not something we see often from you, so a fresh perspective would be appreciated!
I went into the launch trying for the Suprim Liquid but ended up with the Gaming OC. After seeing those memory temps and noise levels I'm pretty happy!
I went the same route as well. Installed it yesterday and it is a great quiet yet cool card.
Love the direction MSI are going in with that LC card. High hopes for their AMD options next month.
I had a water cooled msi 1080. It was a really incredible card, very cool, very quiet.
Granted I only owned it for about 22 months (2-year microcenter trade-in back then).
Thanks! So, the one with AIO is meant for small cases, air cooled is for those cases that can fit. Performance difference is not that significant.
I would rather have the disassembly in a separate video where you also compare them to the FE.
FYI: A hot radiator is a good thing because it means it is going it's job highly effectively. I mean you do want the radiator to give off heat, right?
i would like you to revisit the oc in regard to voltage. ultimately oc card is all about what you can get out of it through tweaking
Good info Paul, thank you
would love to see a teardown of the msi card and maybe some tips on how to repair and save the card in case the pump fails
Would love to see how Liquid X works in the Hyte Y60 as far as the AIO and CPU thermal performance with the rad mounted on the side.
Hi, Where did you get hold of the Vulcan version? Aliexpress?
big reason I am considering the liquid card is that this card, the FE, and the aorus liquid cooled variants are the only 4090's I can find that are less than 320mm, which is the max length my case supports!
Good stuff, really impressed☺☺
Paul, does that MSI comes with the fans mounted already in a push config?
I ended up with the base MSI Gaming Trio card and I'm happy with it. Super quiet, stays cool even maxxed out. Weirdly, RAM is cooler than their water-cooled card, so glad I skipped the pump. (And as far as Nvidia competing with the other manufacturers, seems like they're managing that by having only made 12 cards. I wanted the FE and it sold out in seconds on Best Buy, with no restocks so far.)
Dude called us broke in ten different languages 😂
Paul what do you use to monitor the VRAM temp? Afterburner or something else?
According the case comparability of the Suprim @ 11:15 I think the issues are the tubes, I don't understand why msi didn't angle the tube connections on the card. The way they are attached orthogonal to the card demands for a super wide case, else the tubes will push against the case window.
Thank You !
Great video ! Though the stuttering & break-ups during playback was. . Troubling !
Hi Paul, with most gpu cars becoming way more power-hungry and as a result requiring beefier heatsinks to mitigate the heat, is it better to have an air-cooled GPU's at the expense of losing PCIe slots due to the thickness of the heatshinks, or in the longer run more practical for AIB GPU manufacturers to add a radiator to cool aforementioned GPU's at the expense of finding space for the radiator? And if watercooled, would the bare minimum to keep it cool reqwuire the use of a 120 or 140mm radiator?
I am curious which will do better these 2 cards will perform in a vertical mount case like HYTE Y60.
On a gaming x trio, but absolutely going to slap a waterblock on it, it is currently kinda pressfit between the pcie bracket and my psu(i have a weird case orientation), and i'm not comfortable with it. Probably not gonna OC but just enjoy the low temps and noise.
Got the Gigabyte Gaming OC, it's a powerhouse, I'm benchmarking it in Blender benchmarks (because that's what I'm using it for) and it's showing good numbers, overclocking past 13000 with minimal effort and temps in the mid 50'c or lower (Room is 68'f).
What I find confusing is the power (Using MSi Afterburner because the Gigabyte CC software kept crashing, even crashing windows for a while) it runs higher numbers at 50% than 75% than 133%.
Even at 25% (which is around 150w) it runs a OC benchmark of 6792 which is around a 3090ti.
I guess this means that 100% is 600w but it never gets near that in the graph, always topping out around 330w....not anywhere close to 450w - so I'm a bit confused, getting great numbers but the wattage looks low.
Suprim vs Waterforce next please 😄 Waterforce has cooling for the memory and mosfet, wondering what the temps would be with that additional heating element.
Thanks for all your hard work here.
My only concern is what happens if/when the pump on the MSI fails. I have had a good experience with MSI in the past and currently, but dead pump means dead 4090.
Also, the smaller size on the card is nice, but many smaller cases won't be able to fit the tubes coming right off of the side of the card like that when many cases require a custom cable like a 90 degree.
What's the quietest 4090 you have tested to date that maintains cooling similar or better to the 4090FE? I like the 4090FE design that takes the heat out of the case but the 2 fan design gets noisy to keep temps in check.
Interesting how much more expensive the 4090s in EU are (obviously we don't really get FEs), 2200-2800 euros
yep, here in Norway that MSI SUPRIM Liquid X is close to 2,500 USD
That's absolute fk'd
Here in Au you can get a 4090 for 2930 or so. Honestly it's expensive, not too bad though. 2900 euros is 4500 here...
About one 5th of the price in EU is VAT. In USA sticker prices doesn’t include any taxes.
In Europe we have Value Added Tax everything msrp + VAT €20-€25%
Not only do Europeans pay crazy high taxes you also have to pay crazy high taxes on each item you buy.
@@n9ne I tend to be a pretty liberal kind of person in terms of my beliefs about taxing, and I got to say that sucks. taxing income progressively is good. taxing consumption is regressive and bad. of course, I feel the same way about my state (damn you Washington, you're so cool in other ways).
Would a push-pull config help at all? Overall, very impressive. Thanks for all the info!
Paul, I am most interested in the MSI AIO version. Price, MSRP, is fine if I could find one so, please break this one down and provide your professional value POV on this card. Thanks
It is too bad the MSI card has such high memory temps. I love that aesthetic and it would actually fit in my case.
Hello how long does it take to refill the liquid on that MSI ? also how to detect if the liquid is dried up?
Does the 600 watt connector mean that future cards will not go over that? Do the new power supplies only have 1 PCIe gen 5 port? I really wanna game at 4k but it doesn’t seem that graphics cards are there yet.
Hey, I’d like to know which one is good ml ?
Great info. When I can find one to buy in 18 months it will be very useful.
Paul, could you please review pre-custom-water-blocked RTX 4090 cards? I believe the Inno3D GeForce RTX 4090 ICHILL FROSTBITE comes with a water block installed, ready to add to a water loop. I really want a custom water-cooled 4090 but am too nervous to install them myself and void the warranty, so will only buy one that is pre-blocked by the manufacturer. Thanks. :)
I bought the MSI for its water cooled, quiet goodness. It has not disappointed.
the biggest advantage with the suprim x is that you can improve the gpu cooling and lessen the overall noise with a push-pull fan setup on the radiator... i did that with phanteks t30 fans that are much better than any aircooled fan, so i don't see an issue with overheated liquid shortening the life of the pump... with the aircooled cards you can't improve the cooling.
I think a better video idea personally would be how the FE versions of the 4090 hold up against the base, MSRP versions from each manufacturer. Would be interesting to see how they all perform and it'd put to bed the general belief that Nvidia "bins" the best GPUs for themselves.
Not that it matters *that* much, but I think a graph of fps/watt would be neat to see which card is more efficient in terms of the frames it's providing, rather than having to do the math ourself.
Honestly you could do watts/fps, I just thought that people would like the graph to be "bigger bar mean better" so thats why I said the other way around. If you're clear that smaller bar means more efficient, then I think the numbers look nicer when its watts/fps because its above 1.
To be clear, I know Watts/frames/second is the same as energy/frame (because power is energy over time). So you could also graph energy per frame at the average(or median if theres spikes/outliers) fps.
Ultimately just an efficiency graph would be nice / neat to see.
Next you'll try to say binning isn't a thing at all 🙄
One of their best AIBs didn't jump ship for nothing.... Hell just listening to their own words makes it clear that they would bo that and more
@@MaddJakd Or just test it versus other base models from other AIBs. It's relatively easy to test.
Pretty short vid. AIBs are slightly cooler and quieter. They are not faster or have any greater noticeable OC headroom. Even the LC versions.
@@Talishar I for one am fat from interested in such tests, but if you must have some sorta "proof" that binning might not be a thing, Jay's Founder card didn't exactly stack up against others who have posted OC records, though that can be chalked up to silicon lottery. Or is that also not a thing to you?
Hey I don't know if you'll even see this comment over a year later but I've been trying to just find dimensions of 4090s for comparison to try and figure out what might fit and these days I find the width of the card (that is, how far it projects perpendicular to the plane of the motherboard when socketed into the PCI-E port) is probably more important than length given the inflexible design of the power adapter. Still a great video, and thanks for everything you do.
Definitely want to see a teardown of the Suprim Liquid X
The lower GPU Power limit on the liquid version is due to an VBIOS error on the card; MSI already knows and has an updated version that theyre gonna push thru MSI Center soon
Hi paul, could you help out with your expertise and experience? I run my first build but it is loud and kinda hot and i dont know what i did wrong (need 2 learn how to undervolt and oc, but that later when i get more into that stuff)
If you could tell me whats wrong it would be super cool. Ty for your video!:)
The MSI memory temps sound like the thermal pads aren't making proper connection to the intended heatsink.
I really want to see you test the msi gaming trio. I heard it doesn't have a vapor chamber and it comes with a 3x8pin adapter.
Thanks Paul!
I'm on the fence of getting the Suprim Liquid but not sure what repairs or rma would be like vs an air cooled. Also it being a 1 or 2 slot is much better than 4
Thats great, ill keep this in mind when they are back in stock in 2 years
Imagine having all the parts for a 7950x/Crosshair Extreme AM5 custom loop build except the GPU...that would be me right now :(
There's plenty of them . They just aren't selling them all right away to keep prices up. Warehouses full of them
@@splashindapot Still can't get one, the why is irrelevant. I want less youtube videos showing the 2% difference in FPS and more videos on HOW to get these cards for MSRP in the first place. By the time I could buy a 3080 it was too late to matter, and now I cant get a 4000, it's retarded. Even 3080 Ti prices have gone back up because people bought all the sub 900 ones.
@@splashindapot You can find one. I bought one from MSI on release day at 3AM eastern. They got sold out within 10 mins when I was sharing links though.
@@Cruor34 Most people who really wanted the 4090 on Day 1 already got one or secured an online order. Not to mention that after the crypto bubble burst there isn't nearly the same demand for these cards as there was 2 years ago. CZcamsrs have no business trying to tell people where to buy these cards, because the information can become outdated very quickly during the first couple weeks of a hyped up launch. You aren't going to wait 2 years to find a new card at MSRP this time.
I have heard the thermal pads used for the memory on the MSI card are not making good contact and may be too thin. I have seen some get reduced temps by replacing the memory thermal pads. Just fyi. Maybe revisit this with revised thermal pads?
silly question, can the liquid radiator be placed below the GPU, or does it need to be on its side level with GPU. there is normally a best position to get the most our of the pump and flow
Suprim is the one I got! I'm loving it so far. It's supppper quiet even in gaming mode
Same here!!!
The OC champ card!!!!
It makes me so happy to see GPUs actually going to actual users this time around, lol. Have fun with your new card!
What's your memory temp? Are they different than in this review? Thanks!
@@Jeffbozoooo its pretty spot on to what he says in the video.
@@BenMagargee Ive been waiting before even 3090 for this card ^_^ Im so happy to be able to play games on max settings for once. And thank you! I got reallllly lucky
That would be great for any liquid cooler to put a temp sensor in the loop.
What do you use to monitor all memory temps and power usage?
Currently have a gigabyte rtx 3080. I absolutely love MSI though. I have an MsI motherboard and the build Quality is excellent. When I eventually upgrade I might have to get the MSI to give it a try
Coiuld you please show how you fit this card in your case?
I've looked and can't find any monitoring options in Afterburner for the AIO coolant temperature. Maybe it'll be in a future update.
Getting better scores with my Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 but I have it running in the 30s with stupid airflow. Card runs so cool even when I shut off my cold air intake.
I’ve got an innox3d 4090 OC
It probably has the more discreet and smallest design from all the 4090s
And I’m really curious about why I don’t see reviews about it.
Seems to work perfectly in terms of performance, and temps never get over 66c
Maybe they didn't send so many review samples to the English speaking market? I'd never heard of inno3d till I started looking at their 4090 with the alphacool waterblock.
the inno3d is smaller, but the temps are horrid, above 80C on load, i've been avioding that
@@housesg5981 air cooled version? The op here says max of 66. Where did your info come from? Thx
i’m new to the pc building community. would it be possible to change the radiator on the suprim to a 360mm?
It is possible to hear the water pump? When you are in windows without heavy usage of graphics cards? The pump must run all the time, right?
Gigabite when stops fan is completely quite.
I like the form factor the liquid cooling of the Suprim allows for... but I'm not sure how to use it in a case with an existing AIO liquid cooler for the CPU. I'd love a deep dive on this with options, considerations, etc.
A Meshify 2 Compact will fit a CPU 360mm AIO up front and the 4090 Suprim Liquid X at the top.
Can you swap out the fans on the RAD with something like Lian LI fans on the MSI Suprim X?
Hey Paul, I was wondering why your version of MSI afterburner looks different than mine, is there any way for me to get the UI that you have?
First! Thanks for the information, always helpful!😊
My daughters share a room and have a single plug each, currently have a smart energy monitoring plug attached to each and there entire setup use between 150-200w each thats everything. lights chargers, monitors, PC. (Ryzen5 3600 and 1660Supers)
IF you can COMPARE performance of both ASUS cards STRIX and TUF. Im really debating on them. Also debating on the Prime or strix motherboards Z790 or Z690 as well
Which capture card do you use to capture the game play footage? Just wondering, cause I see tearing, and if it's the Elgato 4K60 Pro Mk2, there is now VRR support in a beta firmware.
I'm glad it wasn't just me, surprised to see nobody else commenting on the tearing.
I like the MSI card, but wish the tubes went out the end of the card instead of the side. I also wish the tubes were a bit longer since I don't think the radiatior would reach as a front mount in cases such as the meshify 2.
I'd be curious how the Gigabyte Aorus GeForce RTX 4090 Xtreme Waterforce 24G would compare to the MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X 24G since it addresses most of my concerns with the MSI unit.
I really hope the msi makes the stretch in the meshify 2, mine should get here tomorrow.
I love my Noctua edition. I wanna see if they’ll make a new one.
If one was worried about the rad getting too hot couldn't they just add a couple fans to change it into a push/pull? Or just upgrade to some better 140 rad fans
I don't get why reviewers don't put better fans on that rad lol obviously those msi fans are beyond garbage
@@redclaw72666 I'm still looking for a video
@@redclaw72666 you review the product when it comes in. Not modifying it.
I tested on my 360mmx30mm rad and the temp barely drop 1 celcius at 300w hot load. burger rads ain't efficient for 30mm slim rads but much efficient when it comes to thick ones like 50mm 60mm rads
@@redclaw72666 maybe they want to show you the authentic performance you can get entirely out of the box, yet personally I use only arctic P12 and P14, those are the best of performance-acoustic-cost balance
Is the "you can monitor the Suprim Liquid X's cloolant temp using after burner" reply (20:25) true?
I can't see liquid temp anywhere in the afterburner.
I wish I could've control fan speed based on coolant temp, but I think I should go with buildzoid's "tape a thermal sensor" method instead.
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