How Do The 2-Door and 4-Door Dodge Chargers Compare? That And More New Info!
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Since the last video was shot we know a bit more about the 4-door Charger! Well, OK, 5-door Charger! Why? Because it's a liftback!! Yay for hatches!
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Alex, If we absolutely must have a new generation of energy-guzzling, Franco-Italian Mopars, how about a new Magnum? 🤔
I still have my 05 magnum that was bought new. Absolutely love it. People always talk about Chrysler reliability but it has been bullet proof.
No brainer over ho-hum sedan.
It's a nice nice set up in terms of the electric Charger, but nothing is carved in stone in terms of specs but we know it's a killer of a car. We're going to have to wait until we find those X valus.@@dtay8913
I just sold my trusty 2005 Magnum RT, it was still going strong but I just had too many cars, not enough space to keep it. This 5 door Charger is the next best thing to a Magnum. Maybe when the i6 shows up, I'll shuffle my cars around again for one of these. No SUV or CUV for me.
Wagons don't sell my friend, so you can stop dreaming
Someone will figure out how to squeeze a Hellcat engine on this car. Thanks for this video Alex!
That's so cool, hell yeah they want a new car but not the guts
The mounting points of the hurricane engine are the same (so they could retrofit it in cars designed for the Hemi) so the swap should actually be really easy
Glad to hear the 4 door will be a hatch back.. that is awesome.
Both will be!
I've been saying that liftbacks and wagons would be a great combo. If the Magnum did come back I think it should be a 6 seater tho.
Credit where it’s due; the whole 2 door 4 door thing tickles my “old man” nostalgia. It looks excellent in both.
That front wing thing is a BRILLIANT solution to the aero problem. Looks like an old car, works like a new car. Elegant.
I second that motion
Great analysis.. My only critic is if Dodge would have kept round headlights of challenger in memory of retiring it
That was a quick update on your part, Alex. Thanks!
I owned a 2014 charger rt awd and that car was a blast and amazing all weather. A 550hp version with that hatch sounds perfect for me. Not really interested in the ev version because I’m sure it will be well out of normal price range but the i6 version is really appealing.
They both look fantastic. Too bad no one will be able to afford one.
Isn't this so sadly true, no one can afford these, sure are nice looking cars!!😮
Anything similar that ridiculously cheaper than this? What does a Model S cost?
@@wacoodude6567 I have no idea what a model s costs. I can't afford that either.
Man i hope we get a magnum varient
AWD 550hp Hatch is actually very cool
At 206 inches in Length and 80 inches wide, all you need is a Texas Stetson Hat and some Antlers on the front of the hood to go driving down the interstate in Muleshoe. Nearly 6000 LBS for the EV and you have to guess around 5000 LBS for the "ice" version.
This does not say or speak agility to me. Rather it speaks "Sherman tank" . Great design, great proportions, great interior dash but they built a "Queen Mary" rather than Olympic sprinter.
4000 lbs for ice.
I sort of like it, especially in that pretty blue. An AWD fast, go anywhere coupe for the whole family sounds incredible to me.
Thanks for this follow-up video, Alex. With the new Charger being really large, I'm imagining that the Challenger could return to directly compete with the Mustang. One could hope, eh?
The design is subjective but props to Dodge leadership to conceptualize a vehicle like no other currently available on the market.. This is mid size suv leg room with a compact suv cargo space in a coupe sedan.. Since dodge decided to retire challenger they should have kept the round headlights from it on this new vehicle. That is my only critic on the design
At last! An American looking new dodge car! Not a rebadged euro hand me down. As fast as it being a hatch back? YES! I love hatch back cars. They just flat out work great for all around use. And it looks like there is going to be a wide choice of configurations available to choose from.
And this design would make for a good re issue of the New Yorker, Newport, Saratoga and other historical names like Polara, Royal, intrepid, Savoy, Windsor.
This is kind of like the Hummer EV: I dont understand it, but I'm glad it exists.
I also appreciate that more manufacturers are moving to the liftback design. Trunks feel so outdated, but I know some people still dig the sedan profile.
I'd definitely go for the 2 door. Lovely, speaking for myself. The one bummer is Dodge reliability! Hmmm...🏹♐
Very attractive 2 doors hatchback and I would like one but at 2/3 of this format.
I'd be interested in the gas version. I like that thay are back building old school big cars . The fact their all lift backs just make it better. Hopefully that all translates into a practical interior space unlike the old school big cars.
Can the Fratzonic play “Mr. Softee” 🎵
It’ll take some kid about 15 minutes to hack the speaker and make it play fart noises.
I'd like to see a PHEV or range extended EV on this platform, but with a name that doesn't have the same history/branding, like the Chrysler 300. Personally I love the hatchback utility and will consider the 5-door as a replacement for my 23 Integra. I would be very tempted if they brought back the magnum with the same powertrain options.
I am absolutely in love with this vehicle, but noone can ever convince me that some techbro yahoo with a ton of money is actually capable of piloting a 3 ton hunk of metal that charges through the quarter mile in less than ten seconds (Banshee).
I really like the new Charger. Hatchback is fine with me. Can't say 2dr vs 4dr, which is better? Price will be important.
I will take the 4 door sedan (with the hatchback), incline 6 twin turbo.
great sports sedan
thank you very much
I'm still not understanding why LEA don't want turbo or superchargers. After all the Explorer Interceptor is using the Ecoboost. I figured the SST HO would be the natural progression to replace the Hemis found in their Chargers.
I think the Explorer Interceptor is available in base NA V6 or hybrid along with optional Ecoboost. Not sure what percent of agency sales opt for the latter for their normal patrol vehicles though. Lots of horsepower isn’t needed for most patrol vehicles.
My ford escape has echoboost, and i love it❤meant ecoboost so yeah i agree with your comment!
@@ALMX5DPIt’s available with a hybrid, but not an NA engine as Explorers don’t have one in the lineup.
They do want them. V6 turbos save fuel over V8s, while providing pursuit power.
It's all about long term costs. You don't actually need that much power in a patrol car since the radio is always faster than any fast car today. Also, high speed chases are discouraged for the safety of the public. It's better to radio other units ahead.
I'll take a 2 door hatch with the 6. It can keep company with my 74 Charger.
Can we get the roof paint matched to the body?
They will have color matched roofs. The ones pictured have the optional glass roof.
I already have a hatchback- a Nissan Z😊
I love that they’ll be hatchbacks! I think that’s an awesome choice by Dodge. It’ll make people think twice about buying a boring crossover.
Absolutely my thought.. Dodge leadership should be applauded for designing something totally unique when compared to current car market
anything mentioned about powering tools or house with these batteries?
No comment yet, we should know more soon
Great News!
Gotta watch out for the torpedoes from the U-boats driving one of these.
Two doors that are as long as 3 row SUVs, an EV with a speaker to mimic loud exhaust sounds, terrible Stellantis quality and reliability… wow can’t wait
Stellantis is completely done with V8s, right? Crate engines too?
We don’t know about the great edges, but we know that no products will have a V-8 anymore
Looks fantastic! I wish it would be offered with a naturally aspirated engine though.
The base will likely be an NA I-6.
The leading rumor is the 3.6L V6, not a naturally aspirated 3.0L. Production of the pentastar is not ending.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Why would they need such a long hood for a V6?
@@afcgeo882 my guess is classic muscle car proportions. The guys over at TFL said it will have a twin turbo 6cyl.
@@palebeachbum It (the Charger) will probably have a twin turbo V6, but not as a base engine.
Strong candidate for my next car. Dodge 4 door, AWD, liftback, with the inline 6. I went from a Challenger to my current Stinger (which is a fantastic car) so this new Dodge could so far it seems satisfy my lust for power, liftback, and AWD. Can see myself in this car no question about it !
I so wanna see myself in it too.. ICE version not EV though
Yup ICE all the way baby ! @@abhi4ify
Which engine did you get in the Stinger?
3.3 Twin Turbo AWD
This is MUCH larger than the stinger in every dimension.
Kinda reminds of when GM built the Monte Carlo and lumina they were basically the same car just the Monte two door the Lumina four doors...
Tim confirmed that the Challenger is currently retired but not dead, and they will comeback to it sometime in the future
I hope they bring a Cuda along with it.
I read 206 inches long and 79 inches wide!!! I actually like that!!! Big comfy personal luxury/muscle car....Just needs a HEMI V8 or all new V8..
hemi or not....still looks dope
This has about the same footprint as a regular cab F150.
Why would the base Charger have a V6 and not a non-turbo I-6? Seems like that would be easier than finding a way to fit a V motor in a bay designed only for straight motors
Because 3.0L is on the small side for a NA engine in a vehicle like this and the 3.6L V67 is continuing in production. This is why the RAM 1500 gets the 3.6 or the I6 engines. This engine bay was NOT designed just for I6 engines, Stelantis told us it was designed to accommodate the Pentastar as well "in some models". Whether that's this model or not they would not say, but it's as close to an answer as we could get.
Don’t know why but the four-door looks really cool.
because it is cool. even the 2 door is fire
No "V6" , it'll be an inline 6.
The base engine will most likely be the 3.6L V6. They have only officially announced the 3.0L turbo, but we should hear about base engines around December or January,.
Why they didn’t make the v8 awd was to make these look better. Which is a shame cause without the engine downgrade these would still be appealing
Maybe the “ Challenger “ name will be the Hybrid 🤔
Bringing back the V6 for police packages is an interesting thought that I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere. I'll bet they could get a lot of takers for a civilian version, since the price should be more attainable. And if this could fit the V6, does that mean that it could fit the RAMCharger hybrid system? Hmm... (Also, I _love_ the fact that these are liftbacks. It's such a great idea that I can't believe they actually approved it. lol)
If there was anything at all that I was looking forward to with electrification, I was expecting less noise. So let me see if I understand. The range is going to be terrible. There's going to be nowhere to charge. It's going to cost more money and value is going to drop faster than an a pallet full of MREs over Gaza and now you're telling me they're going to make a bunch of loud terrible racket. That's great. Just great.
It's supposed to be a muscle car for gen Z. They want all the noise. The lack of the loud exhaust is the excuse I see most from people not liking turbo charged engines.
@@66skate we all get to hear this loud noise. I thought we could be glad when the last fart can went to the crusher.
Great breakdown
Butttt...
I didn't like it this morning
And I still don't like it this evening.
Even back in the 60's-70's the Charger was mid size and Mustang was a Compact...Charger was never a competitor to the Mustang,albeit the Charger always blew the Mustangs doors off in the 60's and early 70's..1960's and 70's Mustang was tiny,very small car..Even the Challenger was bigger and not a direct competitor,albeit Challenger was always quicker/faster ..
New Charger is the 75-78 Charger in 2024 personal luxury/muscle car..
I’ve never understood why people like the exterior styling of Chargers and Challengers. I still think this looks like a boring, cheap rental car on the outside. However, I like the rest of the car. I mean… just look at the silhouette of the Mustang. It’s a beautifully sculpted car
Everyone aint the same thatz why simple
Manual transmission?
It is possible, but probably unlikely
That Charge port is Tesla NACS preferred location, will slip into a supercharger version 3 without creating parking chaos! This maybe a sweetist EV ride for both EV enthusiast and we old muscle car bunch, mmm may have dated myself!
Im not sure the V3 cord is long enough. Tesla port is basically in the tail light. This looks 3’ down the car. Might be close. But the V4s will have longer cords.
I find it humorous that they brag about the pistol grip shifter but there isn't an actual manual transmission option. 🥴🙄
Kudos to dodge for evolving their power plants .
This is Dodges answer to the new facelift a couple years back on the Camero…ugly
Just watch,Law Enforcement will get a 5.7 Hemi in the 2025 Charger...Remember they gave the Police Charger a HEMI with All Wheel Drive that the public couldn't get..Even had a column shift,so we will see..
5.7 HEMI is still produced for RAM Classic and Durango and 2025 RAM Heavy Duty trucks 2500 and up still have the 6.4 HEMI V8..
I gotta get the electric 2 door. I bet reliability goes way up
It looks better in Sedan form, but 6000 pounds is ridiculous.
all over this. no rebate?
We don’t know for sure, it will depend on where the battery components come from
I hope Dodge bring gas engine choice in Chargers
Esthetically, what a letdown, especially the 4 door. Better than the decades old previous Charger but not anywhere close to what it should be.
Too long. Can’t fit in my garage.
Just like my 😅
Alex, law enforcement agencies aren’t buying NA V-6 cars. Even with the older Chargers, very few police sales ended up being the 6s. If it’s a 6-cylinder, it will need either a turbo or a hybrid motor to supplement the power. Also, why fit a straight six and a V6 into the same model?
According to Dodge, 90% of the previous generation Chargers sold to law enforcement agencies were the V6 and only 10% were the 5.7L V8. In some areas the reason was that you could get the V6 with AWD, in other areas it was simply fuel economy.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide That was true in the early year Chargers. Almost 100% were the V6 AWD. However, in the last three to five years those numbers changed a lot. Departments have been very disappointed with the reliability and abilities of those V6 Chargers and went away to Ford, leaving mostly V8 Charger sales.
That’s not what Dodge had to say about their sales, and you’d think they would know since they build them…
@@AAutoBuyersGuide They also wouldn’t admit to their faults. Do they know? Of course! I never said they don’t know. Are they completely honest about their issues? Of course not.
I hope Dodge can pull it off. With a 3.6L maybe they can have a volume seller because with probably 5-7000 ev models a year they can't afford another dud. There's way to much negativity in all the video comments today. A high 30 low 40 thousand dollar base 3.6 Charger could save them. Not 45-50.
The comments are good entertainment. They are a good snapshot of the stupidity of those that write many of them. Pick any brand and read away. It's the same nonsense on all of them.
Why is it stupid not to like something smh shit crazy
The Dodge Charger is no longer a true American muscle car unlike its predecessors, thus making it one of the most ill-fated cars throughout history. Nearly all muscle car enthusiasts including me want a supercharged V8 and RWD. Luckily, Ford and GM still offer such cars to this day. The Mustang GT and Dark Horse offer a supercharger as an optional dealer-installed feature and the Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing comes with a supercharger as standard. Both cars are RWD-only. The former is a 2-door and the latter is a 4-door which makes them the perfect alternatives over the 2-door Charger and the 4-door Charger, respectively. They’re even offered with a manual as well as an automatic unlike the Charger which, like most American cars, is automatic-only so they’re more inclusive for different drivers with different preferences. The only downside is that they’re mid-size unlike the Charger which is full-size so they may not be as spacious but they’re still offered with the performance that everyone is demanding for the Charger.
I would buy a concept 55 B4 this nonsense. Kiss of death Dodge. Nice going Stellantis. You killed a families legacy.
If you asked me, I'm 100% sure DODGE has another surprise for us down the line, that hellcat name will not be left in the dead, could they have some sort of V8 in the works.
We're 99.999999% sure it won't be a V8. The only V8s in the lineup will be in the HD trucks.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide oh well, when that pcm gets unlocked those 4wd with that traction are gonna be smkong hellcat left, and right. Performance shops are gonna easily get another 300hp out of those turbos.
The more I look at it, the less ugly it becomes
After watching this review, I agree. Looking from the rear is the best view IMO.
The orange looks awful on this car…
Orange is out. Many thought the Bronco would be mostly bought in orange. Ford discontinued it .
lets talk about how everyone is gonna charge this pos..lets talk about the millions of homes that dont have an electric service big enough for a charger at home..lets talk about rolling brown out in the summer because the power grid cant handle everyone turn on there ac ....
Move out of Texas?
They're 2 door and 4 door. We don't call SUV's 5 doors and there's no difference. It's confusing for the sake of marketing at best.
We most definitely call SUVs - 5 door.
Mmmoooooooooo
You have to see this car in person for photos and videos can not properly display its beautiful design. American Art should be the name because it's modern automotive artwork. Pack your pistol while driving.
4 door looks wrong but, that's about it.
Am I the only one that thinks the front end of this looks hideous? It looks… I’m not sure, maybe sickly is the word?
Garbage
Dodge will go bankrupt
How about none of the above. These monstrosity looking slugs with the nameplate Charger slapped on them are ugly. And tossing a faint body line here and there vaguely reminiscent of a gen 2 Charger if you squint real hard, doesn't cut it. Challenger and Camaro and Mustang fans can be proud of the visual nods to the original models, Charger fans got screwed and are the laughing stock. Oh yadda yadda it has this much HP or look it's an EV...Whatever. I'd rather have half the performance and twice the looks than whatever this slug is. Sadly no matter how much HP you give it, it's never going to be able to outrun it's ugly. That being said, change the name of this car and it'd be ok.
Terrible design. I can't believe it
Trash - sad, sad, sad. Sure, let's save our kids from a hellish Earth, but ya ain't gonna recharge on a pile of dead V8s....
Boring and bland. Monstrous size. This is a fail.
Sooo just ignore the new glowing satanic logo of this hideous vehicle huh⁉️🥱😴
The Fratzog logo is satanic? And even if it was, remember this is the company that made the Hellcat, Demon and Redeye, so perhaps shouldn’t be a surprise.
That logo goes back further than the first Charger was built.