Invisible Tokens in Roll20
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- This video shows how to use invisible tokens to set light sources, dim light on maps, and track the position of invisible creatures. Note that the light source and fog of war tricks this video demonstrates require a Plus or Pro account. Also, this video was inspired by Keith Curtis' posts on the Roll20 forums -
app.roll20.net/forum/post/589...
Table of Contents:
Setting Up an Invisible Token - 00:20
Using an Invisible Token as a Light Source - 01:32
Dimming the Light on a Map - 03:55
Tracking Invisible Creatures (Fog of War) - 05:57
Tracking Invisible Creatures (Multi-Sided Token) - 08:32
Resources:
The transparent.png - s3.amazonaws.com/files.d20.io...
Dungeon Map generated by Gozzy's Cartographic Emporium - www.gozzys.com/
Temple Map - marketplace.roll20.net/browse...
Forest Map - marketplace.roll20.net/browse...
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I'm so happy u showed me how to create multi sided tokens thanks
After searching around for awhile I randomly stumbled on this video of yours for invisible tokens for lighting. You have really great tips on your channel. Thanks!!
Yet another excellent video, Nick! Useful and concisely explained. Your videos are a treasure trove of creative Roll20 expertise. Thank you for sharing.
Due to the Corona virus I have had to start using roll20 and I must say your videos have been an amazing tool. Thank you.
your roll20 vids are really the best out there. so many elegant solutions. real treasure :)
Just randomly happened upon this video but it's nice and clear explanation, tho I gotta say that your way for tracking invisible characters is a bit convoluted. What I do is turn on "Use advanced keyboard shortcuts" in the settings tab, then you can just select a token, type "L K" for putting the token on the GM-layer and "L O" for putting it on the object layer. You can also easily switch between layers just by pressing K (for GM-layer) or O(for Object-layer).
This saves a a lot of time, both while prepping and within combat.
Thank you so much for this tip. It really is much easier than going through all the effort in the video. I'll definitely be doing this from now on.
This is *really* clear and concise, and a great trick. Thanks!
Excellent! I'll link the video and time stamps to the appropriate tricks! Thanks!
This was the most helpful video on roll20 I have seen. Sad reminder of why I hate Google youtobe ; it all about the money/advertising. But, that all the salt this post needs. Keep making videos man, your good at this kind of informal video and your voice lends well to them. That said, a reminder, keep making videos. I don't care what as long as you are happy doing so. And, subscribed.
Another amazing video Nick! Thanks so much. You just saved me an hour or so in creating separate maps for nighttime enounters. Amazing stuff!
Glad it helped!
This was a great video, thanks, I am new to Roll20 and am loving learning all these cool things.
thank you so much! i am actually learning a lot from you. just recently picked up roll20 but having much fun (even more thx to you!)
Just saw this. I'm a very advanced Roll20 DM, and this was REALLY helpful. Hope you do more!
Thank you for this! Just wnat I needed!
Glad it was helpful! Happy gaming!
I didn't consider thr possibility to darken the entire screen using auras. Might come in useful, thank you.
Good advices, thank you!
This is a pretty creative way to deal with invisibility. I've been mostly avoiding it because it would mean that I have to constantly switch layers and I don't know if there are shortcut keys for that. Would be amazing if there were.
While you're in your game, click on the Gear icon on the top right of the screen. Then check the "Use Advanced Keyboard Shortcuts" box. That'll let you press k for the GM layer, O for the objects/token layer, etc. A full list of all the commands are here - wiki.roll20.net/Advanced_Shortcuts
The specific shortcut you're looking for is (select token > L > K) to move token to GM layer and (select token > L > O) to move back to token layer, very simple.
Yes! Thank you both! This has been so helpful! All these videos have been useful as it helped me understand how to make it easier for both me and my players on roll20.
Best Roll20 tutorials out there. Keep up the great content!
Can you then use the multi sided token attached to a character so you're not pulling from the Tables page?
Yep, you can do that.
@@NickOlivo Oh man. So nice. I've learned more from you in two days than in the previous two months. My players will thank you! Lol.
wow, great video!
The multi-sided token is awesome for things that change shape or appearance.
oh this is so cool. thank you!
You. Are. Brilliant.
Brilliant!
thank you Nick, does this mean i could do this with Treasure chests and hidden items as well, make them invisible till players investigate for them, could i also make it so the player tokens could switch between an icon with a torch and an icon that doesn't, like my players light up a torch, an so emit a light source, could i make it so they could just clip a token?
Yep, exactly, this sort of thing should work for any kind of token. Happy gaming!
WOW!! Very good! But I have a question about the light source that you created. About 3:50, the video shows light not trespassing walls. Can this be made just with dinamic light extention or there are another way? I'm asking you this because, me and my group aren't gold members. SO we don't have access to it.
Thanks for the kind words - that feature does require a paid subscription, though.
Great vid, great tricks. But have a question. When zooming in past 84% the aura ceases to be visible when I move my view to the area where my player token is. When moving away from where the token is (staying in zoom past 84% then it's visible again. Is this just a thing with the tokens in roll20 or is this a setting? Not sure what it is. When zooming out it's fine. I just noticed when playing around with it again, it does not seem to have that issue if I'm selected on the token in GM view. Still happens in player view unless I move my viewing to the spot on the map where the transparent token is located. Then the aura becomes visible again.
I watched your video on how to auto number monster tokens, my question is can those numbered tokens also generate a random HP between 1-6 so that not all the monsters have the same HP?
thanks for making these video. keep up the good work.
I haven't tried this myself, but this forum post talks about how you can do that -app.roll20.net/forum/post/6989801/unique-hp-for-monsters
@@NickOlivo I'll try that Thanks alot
This is really good stuff, but I have a question as this is a few years old and Roll20 is moving to the new dynamic lighting mode. Is there a way to overlap the dark and light tokens and have them layer over/cancel each other out?
actually, scratch that, I've figured it out. You need to add a color of the light and not use aura's with the new system.
I love your videos and found them to be incredibly useful.
Im having an issue where I create the transparent token and set a aura on it but then my players all see a green square basically the same aura that I am seeing.
I cant see why they are seeing it or what might be different on your setup but it kind of makes it alot harder to use the invis token if they can see the aura effect.
Any advice?
Glad you liked the video! It sounds like the token's aura is visible to the players. Double-click on the token, and click on the Advanced tab. Then uncheck the Aura 1 See and Aura 2 See boxes. Good luck!
@@NickOlivo Tried that but still no luck. Both aura 1 and aura 2 are unchecked and all myplayers (using Cntrl+L to look from their view) can still see it. Is that a issue that I can see it through their eyes but they wont be able to? Thanks for any help you can offer :D
@@littlecarp04Sorry, I didn't realize you were using Ctrl L - if you use that, you'll still see things that are visible to the GM. If you use the Rejoin as Player button in the Settings page, you'll see things exactly as a player would. Just be sure to put a character on the map and and assign it so it's under your control. Good luck!
@@littlecarp04 I am having this same problem. Oh nevermind, i see
@@NickOlivo Hi Nick...same problem...tried your suggestion, but it still is visible to the players, even after I rejoined as player.
Nice
Hi Nick, thanks for all your videos. So I noticed in your video you found a transparent image online? When I tried to look for said transparent Sq image ( using Google images) I did not end up with what u displayed. Not sure exactly how to find said transparent Sq. All the other steps seam to be streamlined that after this initial first step should work ok ok
Hi Daniel - this link should let you download the image directly s3.amazonaws.com/files.d20.io/images/55843640/kQoPE1U9MnBKvMtQ-PIiiw/med.png?1528668226
Olivo do you know how to créate a menu drop roll (like the one for the potions you did) for characters attributes with the 2Ed simple sheet?
I'm not familiar with that character sheet, sorry.
Nick I love your videos!! Not sure if Roll20 has changed but when I Cmd L to see what my player sees they can see the 0’ aura that I put on my invisible token. Or maybe I’m doing something wrong 🙂
Thanks for the kind words! If you double click on the token and then click on the button that looks like 3 dots in a circle that's near the words Tint Color for your aura, make sure "Player Permissions See" is unchecked.
How do the Black aura interacts with the light source? It overlaps it to crrate the light that players see?
It doesn't really create light, it just darkens the color of the map, kinda like putting a darker layer on top of an image in Photoshop.
nice
Could you create a token that would simulate the darkness spell? The DM can see the tokens in the darkness, but the players only see darkness. Then, can you make a modification so that the player who has devil's sight can actually see into the darkness, but the other players can't?
That's a very interesting scenario. I haven't done that myself, but I found this forum post that describes a few different ways that you might accomplish that. app.roll20.net/forum/post/1562553/dynamic-lighting-magical-darkness
Hey Nick, I know this is an old video but i'm having issues with my PC's being able to to see my auraed invisble tokens, Unsure how to hide that from them seeing, any tips?
If i place the "night" token and one of my players light up a torch, when i program their token to emit light, will it actually illuminate over the dark aura?
No, this won't do that.
According to my Player view they can see the aura in the moment that I set it. Just to be sure I disabled everything, from that token, even the right to be edited by my players, but when I press Ctrl+L they can still see it
Some things show up for the GM even when you've switched to player view. I created a separate dummy account to use when viewing stuff like this, to really see exactly what it looks like when my players view the game. Give that a shot and let me know if you're still having issues.
@@NickOlivo I don't actually know what's the problem, maybe - as you say - a kind of bug between the GM's view and the player's. I asked to my players if they could see it, though, and I apparently they couldn't, that's the important thing
Interestingly this does not show up if placed on a dungeon tile asset....tried sending tile to back and info token to front as well.
Oh it needs to be on the token layer. Leaving here in case anyone else has this prob
So multi-sided token: if I have a druid character that pretty much only uses a Bear/Wolf/Rat forms, or a Yuan-Ti that turns into a snake/iguana/aligator/geko forms, I could set these up in advance? Is this for players or only DM? What do you do for Duregar Dwarves that become Large/Small/Invisable?
Sure - though if you have a Pro account, the wildshape API might be a better fit for you - app.roll20.net/forum/post/8856337/script-wildshape-easy-shapeshift-for-your-pcs-and-npcs/?pagenum=7
Nick, the light source works fine but it is still tinted green and my NPCs can see the square with Cnt L. Is there a step I missed? Checks to see aura are all off. All players see light is the only one turned on. Also, I have it set to 10 bright, that works, but when I added 30 dim to test that it won't show up. I refreshed the page but no luck. Edit - nevermind, I read down below I have to log back in as a player or it won't work right. EDIT 2 - well I still am having a hard time seeing through PCs eyes when i log out but I'm too tired now to think about all the dynamic settings and permissions.
Nope, it sounds like you did everything right. Ctrl L lets you see through the player's eyes in terms of their line of sight, but it doesn't hide things that shouldn't be visible to them. If you log in as a player, the token should be invisible to you.
Hey Nick would it be possible to create a master light token, using the rollable tables token function?
When you say master light token, what would you be looking for it to do?
Nick Olivo for example represent the light spell , a torch , a campfire , or a lantern. The part that I think would be cool is if the appropriate dynamic lighting settings would be included with the change of the token
Hmm. I've never tried that before. I'd need to do some tinkering. I'll give it a try over the next day or so and will post back here what I find.
I had a little more time than I was expecting just now :) From what I see, the dynamic lighting properties don't get saved into the rollable tables entry, so at first glance it doesn't look like there's a way to do that. I'll tinker some more and let you know if I find anything.
For some reason it wont let me do the light source.....guessing I need to buy my account to do that
Dynamic lighting is a pro account only thing
Having the invisible token on the map with the players, wouldn't that make it able for them to click and find it? Like with targeting an /fx effect? They might be able to click a few squares till the /fx effect finally lands and them say the beam effect shoots off point to the token, or burn effect shows exactly where it is.
Players can only "touch" tokens they have control of, so no, they won't be able to do that.
@@NickOlivo Players can target effects for /fx tool that they have no control on. I use the fx tool effects all the time and if there is a token it works.
Ah, sorry, I see what you mean now. Yeah, I suppose it's possible, but they'd pretty much just be entering random x,y locations until they hit the target.
@@NickOlivo *mr. burns* hehehe excellent
Let's say a PC has see invisibility or true seeing up - how can you allow only that PC to see the drow?
I don't think that's possible, sorry.
Does anyone know how he creatures those isometric columns such as the ones activated at 0:18?
Do you mean the dynamic lightning?
@@Nino_Dino Perhaps, but I can only manage dynamic lighting to shade a wall or other straight structure whereas he's made round patches of shadow with lines that aren't perfectly parallel.
@@garrettbradford4791
I think he just drew a circle, using the circle tool, on the dynamic lighting layer.
However, it is actually not advised to make circles, because they take more computer power to render. So I have heard that it is better to put an X in pillars and other round objects. Easier for the computer to render.
Does this only work with dynamic lighting?
only works with a premium account
Does this light stuff require a pro account of some sort?
Yes, the light source and fog of war tricks require a plus or pro account.
is this a feature you need to pay for? 'Cause I can't seem to make it emit light
Yes, that one does require a paid subscription
thx :)
A ping file. rofl xD
Your roll20 is different from my roll20 and I am getting extremely frustrated. How the fuck do you make invisible tokens?!