Gnosia Story Explained
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- čas přidán 10. 04. 2021
- A full breakdown of Gnosia story, true ending and all.
If you have any questions feel free to leave them in the comments below, and you can watch my review of the game with this link • Gnosia: Not Among Us
You can also get the OST by going to this video, then clicking on the channel and it'll be right there
• Call of Ender Gnosia OST
#Gnosia #Plot #MakaJohnson #Ending #Lore - Hry
For me it wasn't the fishing with Setsu but the movie we watched with Shigemihi lmao
Yeah you can chose to do either or, but I only had footage of the fishing event and it doesn't really change the story,
Seeing as everyone argues how it is pronounced, it's γnosia with a soft g (greek γ), since it's from the greek word γνωσις (gnosis). Also you can see that it comes from greek because in the loading screen it says something like "don't be afraid when you have knowledge" or something like that in greek. I'm greek so I'm 99.9% sure that it's pronounced γνώσια (γnOsia)
Where is everyone that’s missing in the loops without those characters? Especially since the True Ending shows that LeVi still considers Jonas alive even when he’s not on the ship in that loop… so where the hell is he? In the loop with the true ending, that’s an awful lot of missing characters…..
They're likely in cold sleep. The first few loops are introducing characters, which could simply be explained by the Gnosia presence being detected before people were woken up. Like how the player' doppelganger is in the pod until Setsu takes them to the other dimension.
Otherwise, any loop without 15 people can't be explained.
@nivyan has a good point, and sometimes people just don’t make it on to the ship for one reason or another
I mean, you are jumping into different universes/timelines/dimensions. In some of them, some characters simply arent there, while others some simply are. Thats honestly the least confusing part.
Also, im not talking about not existing in that universe, but simply they just didnt get on the ship in that loop.
Altho when we put into considerration the very fitting theory that you are all in a program/simulation/actually inside gnos, most of these questions become rather trivial.
Came here from the gnosia subreddit. GREAT VIDEO! You answered questions i didn't know i had
Thanks for the support! Yeah I kinda realized while making the video that it was more complicated then I realized
Honestly i would loved to see more videos like this its really entertaining actually i was glued to screen the whole time great job
Thanks! It means a lot to me to know people are actually enjoying what I put out
when the SQ is sus
you put a lot of work into this video,great job
Maybe it really is all a simulation and that would explain why many characters wish to change or become something?
Otome = Human
Chippie = Cat
Manan = Wants her youth
Sha-Ming = Grew up with monkeys and maybe was one?
Shigemichi = Didn't previously look like an Alien
I'm not sure if Raqio/Setu being non-binary relates to that but I'd love to hear your thoughts!
The only thing confusing me is if you're an admin, who saved Setsu the very first time? Wouldn't the MC's body be in a pod on Day 0? D:
I also want to say it felt great watching your video and seeing someone love the game as much as I did. I love mystery games and this one especially hit me hard. I felt so sad after the initial ending so I'm beyond happy there's a true, more "ideal" ending.
As much as I would love to answer your questions, I honestly have no clue. I have seen that theory, and it does seem plausible, but to my knowledge there isn't actually anything confirming it, although it would certainly be nice if it is true. For the thing about Setsu and you, we don't know. There doesn't seem to be an answer for that, although I would be happy to be proved wrong
Chipie confuses me.
They want to become a cat, sure.
Why do they have a cat surgically attached to their neck though?
@@DGneoseeker1 its to get his mind used to being a cat, I think. After he adjusts properly, he can take the cat off his neck and transfer his consciousness into the body of an actual cat, I believe. Dont quote me on it though
@@Localbisexual He does indeed end up inside an actual cat.
@@DGneoseeker1 I vaguely remember an irl animal experiment done that was very similar. Probably based on that.
But it's still very confusing regarding the keys... During the entire game, all keys that we see are instances of the exact same one. And, during a common ending, Setsu is essentially trapped to forever continue looping, because their own key fills up only in the true ending.
Considering those, the lifetime of the silver key becomes this:
Player gets key from Raqio and saves Setsu -> Setsu continues to loop -> Player fills up their key, opening the portal, giving Setsu our own key -> Setsu emerges into the new universe where they either give us our own key that they used to transport | OR | the true ending occurs, Setsu's key is complete and now there are two deactivated keys, one of them is used to send off Manan and then given to her.
So that begs the question: how does the player get their own key? There's no starting point for us to get it and it becomes a continuous cycle of us completing our own key, sending it off to a new universe and giving it back to us, but we never truly "get" it. What's the first instance of us getting one that is not connected to this looping cycle? Maybe in the true ending Manan has actually gone off with two keys, one of them being deactivated, which is then given to the player?
Yeah... indeed, it's better structured if we consider that when we open the portal for Setsu the deactivated key stays with the player, so Setsu completes their own key and gives it to the player, but then the normal ending doesn't make sense, because Setsu ultimately stops looping after all and is not actually trapped.
And btw, I think the point of Manan hiding her identity as gnosia is still valid, because when she's transported to a new universe, she's transported there physically, while the silver key transports only your consciousness. Your status in a universe hinges on your physical state. But wait, wouldn't that mean that SQ still stays as gnosia in the true ending, because she's still physically infected? Gahh, so many unanswered questions still!
These are some great thoughts and theory's but unfortunately, I doubt we'll get an answer to many of these
About silver keys, if i understand your question correctly, then i think i sort of got the answer.(though this is still not for sure, and just my speculations). So the key that you have is filled in the normal ending and you open the door with it. With doing so, you give the key to other you in the pod already. After transfering to another universe, Setsu gives you a briefing and after putting Manan in the sleep, "gives" the silver key. Now, if we ignore the true ending (after the first run she still had to go somewhere), it's safe to say that after giving the key she's forced to stay in a loop forever (could explain why sometimes in runs, she just plays her role completely discarding the investigation) and Setsu that we investigate with later in the game is a new one, that didn't give the key yet.
True ending is where the real brain breaking begins. Player somehow is teleported back into the loop, as another him. Your consciousness might be tied to all of your variations, no matter how many times you are freed (that could explain why you never experience anything out of the ship in normal or true ending) or that could just be his powers. In the true end Setsu never activates your silver key, but she does the same while transferring Manan, so i guess the key is automatically activated after getting through the door??? But that just means that in the first run Setsu doesn't actually gives or activates anything, she just tells you about the silver key. And if Manan has a working key, then that means so is new players body. When Setsu tells you thanks and that you will be parting ways, she says that knowing you stuck in the loop again while she is freed. So player can continue the cycle, because his key is always given to him and Setsu's given to Manan.
Regarding the beginning of the cycle and loops, this is where the concept of infinity comes in. It never truly starts, because just as you can never end the infinity, you can also never start or create it. So basically, the cycle was always here, this is why it's truly infinite.
Setsu is given her key by a version of the player that's already looping. It's repeated multiple times because Setsu and the player' loops aren't linked and are basically random - the player' 42nd loop might be Setsu' 69th. Setsu begins looping because the player is looping. The player begins looping because Setsu is looping.
This infinite loop is causing the key to appear in two places at once. The 'entrance' to the loop is the player waking up and not knowing what's going on. The 'exit' is when the player wakes up and reminds Setsu of watching a movie/fishing.
The loops are limbo - all of the characters in Gnosia are cyberized and probably sent to Genos. The loops are there to serve as their purgatory or place of reaching enlightenment to be reincarnated, depending on your beliefs. This might only be true for Setsu and/or you - but it's not really relevant. What *is* relevant, is that the world Setsu was looping in ended when you gave her the information she required to stop looping - to reach 'tomorrow' or Genos/heaven/hell/afterlife/next life/lots of bitches.
All of the characters in Gnosia are themed around transformation/ascension or rejecting it. The only exception is Yuriko - she's the ferryman. She's the one that made you 'accusable' and activated Raqio' perception of you. Those were both required for you to eventually stop looping.
If you don't like the afterlife interpretation, then just consider Manan is given the key and travels to the past. In the thousands of years before the first loop takes place, Raqio acquires the key Manan threw away/left somewhere and everything starts over, infinitely repeating. The game itself is telling you that you need a different interpretation or the game never ends.
Best visual novel. Love it! Thank you for the video.
Good video! Great work man
Yuriko also remains sane during the weird ending, for what that's worth
wow that's super detailed - loved it! 👽
Wow this video deserves more views!
among us with 5d multiverse time travel
Exactly
I think it’s up to you what you want to pronounce the word gnosia.
Japanese katakana can pronounce gu-no-sia
I am Sorry for commenting so late. In Classic ( attic dialect) and ellenistic greek there Is a Word, "Gnosis" that means "Knowledge" , considering the password for Key activation, i think that Is the inspiration for the title of the game
But Is only a teory of cours. ( For Classic greek i mean ancient classic )
@@francescobarale2694 Thank you for your reply about the word "Gnosis".
I like the idea of that thoery you just tell me.
Don't worry about late reply :))
I really liked the way you explained the lore, you helped me a lot to understand some points !
But there is one single thing that I can't understand. If I understood it well, Manan is Kukruska. But when SQ is gnosia, she's in reality Manan. If 2 exact persons exist in the same universe, wouldn't that destroys it, like it does with the main character ?
I'm sorry if I misunderstood some points or if I made mistakes, English isn't my first language
Yeah, Thanks for the question! Unfortunately this is another thing we don’t seem to fully get answered, but from the evidence we get from other instances, it seems like 2 minds of the same people being in the same loop is okay(example sq manan and kukrushka manan) but same same peoples body’s and mind being in the same loop causes stuff to go wrong
Or it could have to do with the fact that we’re here to “fix” this problem of loops, so whenever the program senses two of us, the one whose supposed to be fixing things, I’m the same loop, it self destructs
I had the same first theory than you, but I think that the second one can also be true. I happy that I understood everything thing in this case X)
@@azaliyaer Oh thank you, I'm sorry If if misunderstood some points in the video
Awesome vedio about an amazing game . The effort you put into this was clear. Can you please provide a link to the universe timeline you used in the vedio please? Thanks
I made that in photoshop do better show hat I was trying to describe
@@Maka_J ah ok thanks anyways
@@salimshatila1595 no problem!
14:19 I read the text and realized what you were meaning to say. My god manan.
It was Jonas for me which was funnier since Setsu was a known Gnosia for me. Don't remember what cause Setsu to share info with me.
quality content
Wait a minute. If Gnosia cannot survive cold sleep then why not simply put EVERYONE in cold sleep temporarily then wake them up? Gnosia infection cured.
They do try that in one loop, but it doesn't end up working, although it's only due to bad chance, so you're right, it would make far more sense to put everyone except the guards into cold sleep
I rly wanted to finish this myself but I had to start all over after 40 hours an… yea no. I’ll play it again sure but I want the story now.
I watched a movie instead of going fishing. She fell asleep in the middle and it hurt the Little Grey's feelings.
Gnosia is pronounce like nausea with a long O instead of the AU
know-zia
i thought it was nojsha (the sound is in between sh and j and has z's quality)
but then again, the Japanese is gunosheya
Great video man. I'd be your friend. Yo there's no 'n' in cyberization! =P
Shame the only solution was sending Manan to a new loop. That woman was a menace.
so is she a jeenosya or a knowtia
This story is complex? Hard to understand? I mean, yeah, it is, now that I think about it, but I hardly notice anymore after beating 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim.
Too hard. Gonna play mario bros 3 for the snes. Back to simplicity for me.
among us? 😳
"But in case you don't own a PlayStation Vita, but I mean, who doesn't?"
Damn, as a Vita lover, that hurt.
I'm sure I read somewhere that Setsu isn't actually a girl...
Yeah, I was a dumbass and didn't gender half of the crew correctly
Awesome vid ! Must’ve been a lot of work to put it out !
Btw when you mention Setsu as « a girl » or « her » well they identify as non binary so using « they or them » is more appropriate
Same for Raqio
I'd agree with Raqio, because they clearly state it. Setsu only ever mentions it when Sha-Ming is being inappropriate about flirting with her. It's an example of different people treating being binary differently. Some binary people prefer being called their biological gender, some don't. I personally interpret it as Raqio is hetero- or homosexual (in relation to their biological gender), making it more important. Whereas Setsu only ever mentions it when being treated poorly, specifically a female. My interpretation is that Setsu is pan- or bisexual and doesn't care about the pronouns, but uses it as a defence for people treating her inappropriately. It's another level of handling binary people like regular people. Setsu' gender was never relevant, and was simply a part of her identity - whether she was female, male or binary would only have changed the dialogue with Sha-Ming.
But it's completely up to interpretation.
@@nivyan oh I see what u mean
Sorry if it sounded rude I was just pointing out something but now I know thanks to you !
Still a great video btw !
@@justaslime7525 Oh nono - I'd not consider you being rude at all :D
It's still up for interpretation, I could totally be wrong and be assuming too much. It's objectively more correct to call both of them 'they'. I could easily be assuming too much.
What a legend. but at 32.22 if she completed her key, Where did she go ?
I would assume she continues in a timeline without you
Such a complete video but what a shame you're calling Setsu a girl and using the wrong pronouns especially after so many hours of seeing "they" in game, the creators really insisted on them being enby because it mattered to them
How about you stop being insulted by a tiny mistake, most people don't ever have the opportunity to meet an enby.
Out of the 12 enby people in my discord, non care all that much about it at first for people new to it, they don't mind people learning and adjusting to it, it takes a few months, but what ultimately happens if you give them time is they all start using they them for everyone, even non enby.
The only shame here is your intolerance to people doing their hardest, you're the reason why GGbun left Twitter, one of the few enby artists that left because of their shit fanbase attacking people, sit down an think before being a fascistic jerk
@@Lesbian.Monster.Hunterthe poster obviously wasnt trying their hardest like you say lol. Its literally stated non stop in the game that Raqio and Setsu are nonbinary and use exclusively they/them pronouns. I could get if it was a slip of the tongue in one or two clips, it happens to the best of us, but its almost comical how much this video misgenders both of them. If its not intentionally ignorant, its just plain transphobic. I'm not trying to cancel anyone or argue or anything like that, and the creator of the video most likely didn't mean to hurt anyone, but I really suggest looking more into how being misgendered can affect someones mental state
@@Localbisexual "Non-stop"? With Raqio maybe, but Setsu only mentions it once.
And going by that logic, accusing someone of being transphobic can damage a person's mental health too. For starters, Setsu and Raqio are non-binary; although I do know that non-binary people fall under the umbrella of the trans movement, that doesn't necessarily means that someone who identifies as non-binary is trans.
"Usually the issues with misgendering is because they are transphobic!". Except in reality, it's mostly because they hold traditional gender values, as many people do (misgendering is normal until you get to know them, since people usually use pronouns based on how they look like). The poster here does show the quality of his "video essay" by misgendering them indeed, but it doesn't makes him inherently bad.
Besides, the creator of this video has already admitted their mistake in the comment section. There's no need to add fuel to the fire to a 1-2 year old video when others have already called him out for it already.
@@loren5432Firstly, its mentioned several times throughout the game that Setsu is nonbinary. The creator obviously knows a lot about gnosia, so its quite literally impossible that they could have forgotten. I'm not saying the creator still has these views, but the person I was replying to was saying that it "wasn't a big deal and wasnt intentional" or some such. Also…what do you mean nonbinary people arent trans ? Are you referring to intersex people when you say that? Because…you do not need to be intersex to be nonbinary.
trans·gen·der
/ˌtranzˈjendər,ˌtran(t)sˈjendər/
adjective
adjective: transgender; adjective: transgendered
denoting or relating to a person whose gender identity does not correspond with the sex registered for them at birth.
@@Localbisexual "First, its mentioned several times" except you refuse to give me examples beyond the scene with Sha-Ming. If you want me to bother with you, at least back up your points with examples. Just because one of its themes is that most of the characters aren't comfortable with their own identities doesn't equals to Setsu being non-binary.
And why are you giving me definitions on transgenderism? I never mentioned intersex, and I know what they are. What the hell are you on about besides spreading hate around?
Oh man, I honestly can't say "Guh-nosia" is wrong since nobody really told us how to pronounce it in the first place. But sadly I'm just one of _those_ people.
When the indie direct happened and they showed off this game that's how the announcer pronounces it.
@@juztsmug *shrug* , just because the promo guy gets it wrong too doesn't make it correct.
The japanese title for the game is グノーシア which is pronounced guh-no-shi-a. That’s the official title
@@adamwalker1091 As if the Japanese never got anything wrong before.
@@Dharengo The game is created by the Japanese. They made up the word. They can't be wrong about it.
Lovely video but setsu is non binary lol not female. Its quite offensive. I know other people have pointed it out, but it was a deliberate choice by you to misgender them. You are incredibly knowledgeable on this game and the fact you openly chose to ignore something the creators intended is disrespectful to the story they are trying to tell. Do better
Nobody cares about gender you special snowflakes
@@artyomalekseyevich5927if you dont care, why are you so offended? Also 2022 and you're still using the term snowflake lol
@@shinelokabrenna Because we are tired of special snowflakes inventing problems because they live a luxurious lifestyle and have never known hardship.
@@artyomalekseyevich5927 if that is what you believe, you are beyond ignorant. I have no words for you
He said he is sorry and that it was a mistake. Don't just assume malice
Isn't Setsu nonbinary?? If so you misgendered them like 50 times
Same with Raqio
this is a great video but it's super cringe that you keep misgendering the non-binary characters
Im sorry and I won’t be cringe next time