I learned that the ending was perhaps the last time the founders interacted with Matthew. His statue in the city says there were never any records until centuries later his descendants came to the city. Poor Nael.
That's an incredibly sad fact, and i just don't know why Matthew left on his own, and without any weapon... it's no wonder he never returned, but then, if he didn't, then how did he have descendants?? I wish i knew... 😢
@@lemmyxpro Probably fell in love with a solider, had a child with them, Homecoming came for the mother, mother died, Matthew told kids about the City and chose to die with the mother
For aypne confused as to how shulk and rex was in aionios, and why they didnt age in there, here is my theory for it, i think i have a valid explanation as to how shulk, rex nia and melia are still young and not ageing. So we know that those in the cycle only live 10 years and those not can live longer, the city people can because theyre born in aionios, in aionios "time" while shulk and those are from the time before the origin and aionios. And since the time theyre from is frozen they dont age. I also think that linka mentioned something like that. As for the reason why theyre outside the cycle, well i think that origin could only convert "simple" souls into the cycle with that i mean souls that havent evolved that much yet, souls from the age 10-20 would be brought in since theyre not as evolved yet, and therdfore easier to restarin from remembering stuff, and removing curiousity, and then those above 20 was just carried over to the world, with their memories. And again They dont age cause theyre from the frozen time and the reason why those in the cycle age is because origin has them registered in the cycle and that they age from 10-20 u know the 10 year life span, now i think that z ordered Moebios to kill all of those outside the cycle. Including dunban and those and then shulk and rex are just survivors, while zeke reyn sharla fiora, all of those died. Its my headcanon so to say.
I was wondering that. It's PRETTY clear and obvious that falling light is significant, since it's pretty apparent and the only moving thing to catch the eye. The devs are practically screaming "HEY! Look at this thing!!" ...though KOS-MOS, I'm not sure about. I still have no idea how Xenogears even factors into things, but Xenosaga was pretty far into the future and eons after Earth had been lost after becoming an interstellar empire of sorts. The radio broadcast talks about colony ships having been sent out, and that they're in construction of even bigger colony ships. But I was watching to see if there was any mention of the group (forget the name, but I'm pretty sure I'd have recognized it) that Mergulus was with which was around from the time of original Earth, and I didn't see it mentioned. So I'm not sure if it's the same continuity or not, but it SEEMS like Xenosaga would have been further in the future than even this. ...on the other hand, if Earth was split in two and out of phase with the rest of the universe, it could explain part of why it was missing (though like Labyrinthos, it could have been a similar accident made it hidden from hyperspace UMN drives). But I'm still thinking that shhould have been further in time than this. Of course, then there's the weirdness (cameo, but I always ask myself how it could be canon) of KOS-MOS being a Blade in XC2 that had some story (though I could never get her to unlock, so no idea what it was...) But, all the same, clearly SOMEthing is falling towards the planet there that is a light all its own.
Why don't Rex and Shulk reveal to their children they are their Fathers? Why didn't they stay to raise them? Where is Pyra and Mythra?? I've only seen a handful of videos and aware of the harem ending so I'm very confused.
tbh I think it's the same thing with Nia not telling Mio about how they're related, Glimmer and Nikol are soldiers and don't really understand the concept of a family. It might make things more confusing for the two, and if their goal of freeing the world from Moebius is achieved, everything will go back to normal and they won't have to know. As for why they didn't stay, remember that Rex and Shulk are very close to the administrators of Origin (Nia and Melia) and are external to the cycle, so they were prime candidates for becoming avatars of Origin. as for where Pyra and Mythra are, it seems like their physical selves aren't present in Aionios, but their core crystal(s) grant power to Ouroboros in the Vandham family (Matthew's gauntlets, Noah's sword sheath that turns into a gauntlet (has the same green glow), presumably Ghondor would have the same green glow if she was Ouroboros, given that her weapon is also red)
Once Origin deactivates at the end of 3, they are presumably alive again. Shulk would be 39 years old and have his right arm. Rex would be a few years younger and have his left eye.
They even tied Xeno X to chronicles. We can hear the radio mentioning the Philadelphia class ships that the people from X take to go to other planets to live there. Forming a new planet as well, might mean that we can still get a new Xenoblade 4, altho this end is perfect anyway.
Could anyone explain to me why Nikol and Glimmer are Kevesi and Agnian? Shouldn’t they have started out with full lives like the city people and their dads?
The only explanation I can give is that shulk and rex put their kids data in origin. But by the end of future redeemed they decided to let them live their normal life inside the system. Because they had immense trust they would help turn the tides against moebius. And people like nikol are probably at their best continuing to grow and learn. Having an intellectual get reset after every 10 years is counterproductive to stopping moebius in the long run. I think shulk would have this mindset. Rex is probably not as deep. But he just didn't want glimmer to be stuck in system.
Yeah I agree with this person though it's a bit more deeper than that so with the construction of origin and whatnot anybody who was currently alive during that time got absorbed and recreated by Origin except a select few who instead exist as avatars in that world so Nia, Rex, Shulk and Melia. Everyone else including their kids were assimilated and reborn due to Moebius' rise this was well after Rex and shulk had raised their children so these 2 are not the originals as they were born well before the construction of Origin, but rather they are just another copy of themselves reborn again and again to fight in the endless now and we know for sure Noah was just a boy when this all occurred and has lived through many lives fighting Zed when you think of how many times this was done then Rex and Shulk have been in Aionios for decades possibly centuries remember N didn't exist until recently in Future redeemed so heck from his son being a young boy to him being old this had to have taken place about 50 years after the last incarnation of Noah and Mio
Could be anything, some says it is KOSMOS cause the ending of xenosaga, some says it is Elma who help people of the earth, some says that blue planet is Mira and that star is the new Los Angeles
Great video! However you made a one small mistake that I see commonly made. There's really nothing suggesting that N's Sword of the End contains Logos' core. Rex says "If it was them, I don't think *they'd* ..." before looking over and the camera zooming in on N's sword and Matthew's gauntlet. Some people have taken this to mean Logos and Pneuma but that is impossible. Logos is male, while Pneuma is female, and in languages with gendered "they"s, it is in its feminine form. For example, in Spanish Rex uses "ellas" rather than "ellos" which means that all members of the group he is referring to are female. If he was referring to Logos and Pneuma, he would have used "ellos" instead. And if we continue that line, " ... *they'd* not even bat an eyelid at helping." Logos wasn't particularly the nicest or most helpful guy. So I don't think this really fits him. Also N's sword releases green Ouroboros power, the same as Matthew's gauntlets. Green is the color of Pneuma, so I think its fair to say that was more Pneuma's power rather than Logos'. And finally Logos' is utterly destroyed at the end of 2. That is important because that's the main reason that Ontos acts the way he does here in Future Redeemed. If Logos was still around in some form, Alpha would likely not exist the way he does in Future Redeemed. Instead, I think all of this is implying that one of those items has Pyra's core, and the other Mythra's. The "*they'd*" refers to Pyra and Mythra, not Logos and Pneuma. Otherwise, this video takes a game that is really hard to understand and makes it into a very digestible summary, so good job!
I think its a theory about part of Logos' energy remaining and forming N's sword (purple like Logos aegis core crystal) while Matthew's gauntlets might be from Ontos and remnants from Pneuma, but this theory is a lot more believable with N's sword being "tainted" like Malos after resonating with Amalthus (Noah's is the oppossite of N thus his sword is normal)
@@xana3961hoping there's a good explanation for this tbh, I don't fully understand how it could be Logos given that his body was destroyed, but Origin is very weird so I'm not gonna pretend it's super outlandish until we get a proper explanation
@notmintmobile I call cap, too, but somehow, his core crystal survived, and his body was transferred into Ainios as an avatar. This Ainios avatar was N's sword.
well we already know Pyra/Mythra live on fueling those of the Vandham family who become Ouroboros' blade weapons, and the recent art book interview w/ Takahashi confirms that one of the souls in Lucky Seven is Fiora's also Nia is the most alive of all of these characters you mentioned lmao
I learned that the ending was perhaps the last time the founders interacted with Matthew. His statue in the city says there were never any records until centuries later his descendants came to the city. Poor Nael.
That's an incredibly sad fact, and i just don't know why Matthew left on his own, and without any weapon... it's no wonder he never returned, but then, if he didn't, then how did he have descendants?? I wish i knew... 😢
@@lemmyxpro Probably fell in love with a solider, had a child with them, Homecoming came for the mother, mother died, Matthew told kids about the City and chose to die with the mother
For aypne confused as to how shulk and rex was in aionios, and why they didnt age in there, here is my theory for it, i think i have a valid explanation as to how shulk, rex nia and melia are still young and not ageing. So we know that those in the cycle only live 10 years and those not can live longer, the city people can because theyre born in aionios, in aionios "time" while shulk and those are from the time before the origin and aionios. And since the time theyre from is frozen they dont age. I also think that linka mentioned something like that. As for the reason why theyre outside the cycle, well i think that origin could only convert "simple" souls into the cycle with that i mean souls that havent evolved that much yet, souls from the age 10-20 would be brought in since theyre not as evolved yet, and therdfore easier to restarin from remembering stuff, and removing curiousity, and then those above 20 was just carried over to the world, with their memories. And again They dont age cause theyre from the frozen time and the reason why those in the cycle age is because origin has them registered in the cycle and that they age from 10-20 u know the 10 year life span, now i think that z ordered Moebios to kill all of those outside the cycle. Including dunban and those and then shulk and rex are just survivors, while zeke reyn sharla fiora, all of those died. Its my headcanon so to say.
i understood a good 70% of the xenoblade story after watching 3 story timeline videos
Id really love a whole series explaination if possible. Just finiahed them all (in tears). Thank you for this :)
That final light may actually be KOS-MOS!
I was wondering that. It's PRETTY clear and obvious that falling light is significant, since it's pretty apparent and the only moving thing to catch the eye. The devs are practically screaming "HEY! Look at this thing!!"
...though KOS-MOS, I'm not sure about. I still have no idea how Xenogears even factors into things, but Xenosaga was pretty far into the future and eons after Earth had been lost after becoming an interstellar empire of sorts. The radio broadcast talks about colony ships having been sent out, and that they're in construction of even bigger colony ships. But I was watching to see if there was any mention of the group (forget the name, but I'm pretty sure I'd have recognized it) that Mergulus was with which was around from the time of original Earth, and I didn't see it mentioned. So I'm not sure if it's the same continuity or not, but it SEEMS like Xenosaga would have been further in the future than even this.
...on the other hand, if Earth was split in two and out of phase with the rest of the universe, it could explain part of why it was missing (though like Labyrinthos, it could have been a similar accident made it hidden from hyperspace UMN drives). But I'm still thinking that shhould have been further in time than this.
Of course, then there's the weirdness (cameo, but I always ask myself how it could be canon) of KOS-MOS being a Blade in XC2 that had some story (though I could never get her to unlock, so no idea what it was...)
But, all the same, clearly SOMEthing is falling towards the planet there that is a light all its own.
Why don't Rex and Shulk reveal to their children they are their Fathers? Why didn't they stay to raise them? Where is Pyra and Mythra??
I've only seen a handful of videos and aware of the harem ending so I'm very confused.
tbh I think it's the same thing with Nia not telling Mio about how they're related, Glimmer and Nikol are soldiers and don't really understand the concept of a family. It might make things more confusing for the two, and if their goal of freeing the world from Moebius is achieved, everything will go back to normal and they won't have to know. As for why they didn't stay, remember that Rex and Shulk are very close to the administrators of Origin (Nia and Melia) and are external to the cycle, so they were prime candidates for becoming avatars of Origin.
as for where Pyra and Mythra are, it seems like their physical selves aren't present in Aionios, but their core crystal(s) grant power to Ouroboros in the Vandham family (Matthew's gauntlets, Noah's sword sheath that turns into a gauntlet (has the same green glow), presumably Ghondor would have the same green glow if she was Ouroboros, given that her weapon is also red)
So are Rex and Shulk both gone and have passed??? because if so RIP to ur favorite xbc mc's
Once Origin deactivates at the end of 3, they are presumably alive again. Shulk would be 39 years old and have his right arm. Rex would be a few years younger and have his left eye.
Amazing video! You’re really good at explaining things :)
They even tied Xeno X to chronicles. We can hear the radio mentioning the Philadelphia class ships that the people from X take to go to other planets to live there.
Forming a new planet as well, might mean that we can still get a new Xenoblade 4, altho this end is perfect anyway.
There will be Xenoblade 4 and that was never a question lol and Philadelphia class motherships are also a Xenogears thing
@@kingofcheshireand a Saga thing.
This story is so fucking good man
Could anyone explain to me why Nikol and Glimmer are Kevesi and Agnian? Shouldn’t they have started out with full lives like the city people and their dads?
The only explanation I can give is that shulk and rex put their kids data in origin. But by the end of future redeemed they decided to let them live their normal life inside the system. Because they had immense trust they would help turn the tides against moebius. And people like nikol are probably at their best continuing to grow and learn. Having an intellectual get reset after every 10 years is counterproductive to stopping moebius in the long run. I think shulk would have this mindset. Rex is probably not as deep. But he just didn't want glimmer to be stuck in system.
Yeah I agree with this person though it's a bit more deeper than that so with the construction of origin and whatnot anybody who was currently alive during that time got absorbed and recreated by Origin except a select few who instead exist as avatars in that world so Nia, Rex, Shulk and Melia. Everyone else including their kids were assimilated and reborn due to Moebius' rise this was well after Rex and shulk had raised their children so these 2 are not the originals as they were born well before the construction of Origin, but rather they are just another copy of themselves reborn again and again to fight in the endless now and we know for sure Noah was just a boy when this all occurred and has lived through many lives fighting Zed when you think of how many times this was done then Rex and Shulk have been in Aionios for decades possibly centuries remember N didn't exist until recently in Future redeemed so heck from his son being a young boy to him being old this had to have taken place about 50 years after the last incarnation of Noah and Mio
No why would they?
I hope im able to play the mmo they make for it will be huge teratons of content like 5 years of gameplay before a need for more
Keevs.
Great video!
I like how you can tell which creators played the game with English subs or the dub by how they say Keves lmao “Keyves”
thanks
So this is before the story of Xenoblade 3? Basically in the several million iterations of Noah
Did anyone else see the shooting star at the end or is it just me cuz it makes me have an idea of what’s coming next
Could be anything, some says it is KOSMOS cause the ending of xenosaga, some says it is Elma who help people of the earth, some says that blue planet is Mira and that star is the new Los Angeles
Great video! However you made a one small mistake that I see commonly made.
There's really nothing suggesting that N's Sword of the End contains Logos' core. Rex says "If it was them, I don't think *they'd* ..." before looking over and the camera zooming in on N's sword and Matthew's gauntlet. Some people have taken this to mean Logos and Pneuma but that is impossible. Logos is male, while Pneuma is female, and in languages with gendered "they"s, it is in its feminine form. For example, in Spanish Rex uses "ellas" rather than "ellos" which means that all members of the group he is referring to are female. If he was referring to Logos and Pneuma, he would have used "ellos" instead. And if we continue that line, " ... *they'd* not even bat an eyelid at helping." Logos wasn't particularly the nicest or most helpful guy. So I don't think this really fits him.
Also N's sword releases green Ouroboros power, the same as Matthew's gauntlets. Green is the color of Pneuma, so I think its fair to say that was more Pneuma's power rather than Logos'.
And finally Logos' is utterly destroyed at the end of 2. That is important because that's the main reason that Ontos acts the way he does here in Future Redeemed. If Logos was still around in some form, Alpha would likely not exist the way he does in Future Redeemed.
Instead, I think all of this is implying that one of those items has Pyra's core, and the other Mythra's. The "*they'd*" refers to Pyra and Mythra, not Logos and Pneuma. Otherwise, this video takes a game that is really hard to understand and makes it into a very digestible summary, so good job!
I think its a theory about part of Logos' energy remaining and forming N's sword (purple like Logos aegis core crystal) while Matthew's gauntlets might be from Ontos and remnants from Pneuma, but this theory is a lot more believable with N's sword being "tainted" like Malos after resonating with Amalthus (Noah's is the oppossite of N thus his sword is normal)
I thought the same! Rex is referring to Pyra and Mythra not Logos and Pneuma
An interview with Takahashi has outright revealed that N's sword *is* Malos. Entirely.
@@xana3961hoping there's a good explanation for this tbh, I don't fully understand how it could be Logos given that his body was destroyed, but Origin is very weird so I'm not gonna pretend it's super outlandish until we get a proper explanation
@notmintmobile
I call cap, too, but somehow, his core crystal survived, and his body was transferred into Ainios as an avatar. This Ainios avatar was N's sword.
keebs
Where was mythra's kid, tho?
We will Never know 😒
Dirk Nation rise up
Keeves, Realy?
Right… like, at this point he’s probably mispronouncing it on purpose.
Damm, Pyra, Mythra, Nia, Fiora, Metalface. All dead... Jesus this game is beyond depressing
well we already know Pyra/Mythra live on fueling those of the Vandham family who become Ouroboros' blade weapons, and the recent art book interview w/ Takahashi confirms that one of the souls in Lucky Seven is Fiora's
also Nia is the most alive of all of these characters you mentioned lmao