Scientific PDF/Books on Kobo Aura H2O and Pocketbook Inkpad
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- čas přidán 31. 01. 2015
- Hi,
first I'd like to point out the obvious: I am not an expert.
Maybe some of the features I was missing do exist but I did not find them.
Maybe I was using the devices in a wrong way.
So beware that this video reflects only my user experience and the limitations I have faced may not exist :)
This video compares how the Kobo Aura H2O and the Pocketbook Inkpad handle scientific PDFs.
On the Kobo Aura H20, both the standard Kobo PDF client and Koreader (github.com/koreader/koreader) are used.
Sorry for the numerous English mistakes!
I do hear them now and I feel bad about it.
It seems I'm really not good at multitasking.
take care! - Věda a technologie
Awesome review! Exactly what is needed for professional and scientific worlds!
Appreciate your work!
hey man, total newb to these and just bought the H20, and since i reached the end of your vid I am a lot happier than I was at the start; many thanks for a sterling presentation and a fast track to using my reader properly !!!
This is the video that I've been looking for. Thank you for making this!
What a wonderful video with pertinent and frank commentaries. Thanks!
I bought a Kobo Aura H2O. Thanks to this video I discovered koreader; it is essential for reading scientific pdf books and it works like a charm! Also, I find it pretty good the original browser of the kobo.
Thanks Steven for this review.
Thank you very much for this extensive video on this somewhat obscure yet crucial feature!
Thanks for the feedback!
Nice motivation for recording the video, Thanks! :)
A brilliant and very informative review. Great work! Many thanks.
Thank you. Finally someone presented the capabilities of Koreader instead of saying "such and such device can't handle pdf and djvu books in physics and mathematics". With Koreader even a humble Kobo Mini with 5" can be used for reading scientific books comfortably. Btw, concerning the way the screen is "level" with the edge --- you say "I don't care", but actually it does make a bit of a difference. Namely, when you use a device for a long time the dirt/dust accumulates around the edges of the screen and on other devices (which are not level) it is impossible to take it out. But on those devices like Kobo Aura One where it is level it is a simple matter of wiping it off with a cotton pad and distilled water.
Thank you so much for making this video. I'm a med school student in Limoges and we read with a lot of diagrams... I think I'll settle with the Pocketbook Inkpad because I will be able to read docs and maybe use Google drive with it.
Anyway it helps so much to have PDF comparison for scientific documents.
Have a nice day
21:32 - this so saved my Kobo purchase. thanks.
Thanks a lot for the very detailed review! Exactly what I wanted to know.
Many thanks for the video, it was really helpful.
I'm thinking of choosing the kobo, hopefully I'll be able to install the Koreader extension. ;)
The marks that confuse column detection (~17 minutes into the video) are printer's 'crop marks'. PDFs with these marks are normally intended to be sent to a commercial book printer. (I have seen people inadvertently add them selecting the wrong (La)TeX page style.)
To allow making a book or magazine with printed areas (images or text) going right to the paper edge, printing stock is larger than the size of the final product. On this excess area printers also place color lignment marks, etc. The excess area is normally cut off after binding the pages, making a uniform page size. The crop marks indicate where to cut.
Great comparison! Thanks for sharing.
Merci beaucoup pour ta review ! C'est bien plus motivant d'avoir ce genre d'appareils pour lire les publications ainsi que les thèses que de se faire mal aux yeux avec les écrans rétroéclairés.
SylverANGL Je m'en sers beaucoup en vacances. Tu as toute une bibliothèque avec toi, c'est vraiment super ^^
Hi Steven! Thanks for this video, very informatic (and funny actually). I have to H2O and I was also very disappointed with the way it handles pdfs. Koreader made it a lot better, but now I sometimes have lines that are too high or too low, which makes them unreadable. Did you ever encounter this? It seems like the device 'thinks' the screen is a bit larger than it actually it. I already tried settings the margins to large and increased the margin sizes in advanced settings but that didn't help.
Thanks for the video. There don't seem to be any other reviews covering sci papers, so it is very helpful.
At 7:20 you mention that you lose zoom alignment when moving to the next page. I think that Kindle maintains the zoom position between pages.
Does Kindle (paperwhite or something) has "no scrolling" option, when PDF file is in zoomed in mode, I mean when you don't scroll, but turn on like pages, but one A4 page becomes 4 smaller pages? This option means a lot for me, and honestly I can't choose between Kobo and Kindle now. This option was in my old reader, and I need it when choosing a knew one.
Thank you for this useful review! Please inform me which device would you buy?
Thanks a lot! It really helps me to make a choice.
Great presentation.Many thanks!
Thanks for this extensive review!
proycon thanks for the feedback!
Great review! I am looking for a reader to read PDFs, this helped a lot!
Thanks for the great review! What about highlighting? Does any of the readers allow highlighting in PDFs?
Very informative!
Thank you soo much for this review! I want an ereader for exactly the same purpose, and it seems even for the same books :D
Marcus Luger hehe, thanks for the feedback !
Hi,
thx for this comparaison. Do you have an over advice to read PDF on a ebook 2 years after ?
Really clarifier, thanks mate ¡
Still relevant, thanks!
Do you have any more recent videos comparing pocketbook and Kobo? I have pocketbook Touch HD 3 and wonder if installing Koreader would have any benefits for me. Note taking in Pocketbook is already quite smooth, but you now, just to not miss out on anything😁
Please how did you installed that pdf reader (koreader) to can use the landscape view???
Great video!
I know it's old, but something tells me you sent back the pocketbook...!
Both devices seem to be first of their class for the specific companies. Koreaders PDF capabilities seem excellent. I learned, that Koreader can also be used on a Kindle (Paperwhite). The Paperwhite has a little smaller screen (6" compared to 6.8") than the Kobo Aura H20, but is quite a bit cheaper. **What about aquiring the Kindle and use Koreader with it mainly for scientific pdf?**
Kindles are inferior because their local storage is fixed and cannot be upgraded. Kobo Aura H2O (and HD) enjoy a maximum storage of 512GB (yes, half a terabyte!) because you can upgrade the internal storage to 256GB and put another 256GB micro sd to the external slot. This would allow you to store a considerable library of planetary scale, i.e. you can carry the entire knowledge of mankind (actually readable) in your pocket.
Hi Steven Chantal have you used a case for the pocketbook inkpad? I don't find one...
I already have Kobo Aura HD... but to be honest I am thinking of switching to Pocketbook Inkpad - will this be good idea ? I mainly read epub / mobi ( like 80% ) and .pdf ( mostly programming stuff ) like 20% ... also does PocketBook read .cbr ( comics ) ? Great video BTW !
Can't tell wether this would be a good idea or not. I think this is rather a matter of personal taste. I don't know if the Inkpad supports .cbr and I can't test it because I no longer have the Inkpad here. What I remember from previous reviews is that the Inkpad can struggle with big sized documents containing large images. Take care!
***** No... and Yes... I have updated the Firmware and installed KoReader (check github) because build-in pdf reader is a mistake ! The KoReader on the other hand makes pdf reading quite nice... (f.ex. remember scaling from page to page).
Michal did you update firmware and add KoReader to the Kobo H20?
Can you install Koreader on the inkpad?? this seems to be the best idea if you can
@@elmundir Yes, you can. I don't know where there are english instructions for installing Koreader (but I guess you'll find it).
Are you a bass player?? a quick guess by looking your thumbs :) Great review by the way thank you
hi A short time ago I bought one but stopped for no particular reason
When i put it in the charger lights up the play button once and then turns off
Thank you!
Merci Steven pour cette video. Elle m'a permis de faire un choix. A quand une video sur l'installation de Koreader sur la kobo ?
Thyrauld Gambou Oula, un jour (très lointain) peut être, on verra :)
Thank you for making this video. Can anyone tell how good is Kindle for maths/scientific books?
Kobo Aura h20 version 2 has just been released.
I am a person somewhat sensitive to electrical devices (perceiving the negative effect of EMF and not so willing to keep or use them).
Can you tell me if they feel comfortable from this point of view/on that regard?
I don't know if the question makes sense> I hope it does.
Paguro traduzioni Maybe you should read some scientific papers on EHS on the e-reader you choose?
Is it possible to highlight text in the pdf's?
Bonjour,
Merci beaucoup pour votre video. J'ai justement pour objectif de me servir de la liseuse pour des cours de physique pdf en LateX , je viens d'acheter la Kobo Clara 6 pouces, j'ai transféré quelques pdf c'est une catastrophe, déjà ça freeze, quand je bouge le texte ça fait un écran noir avant de recadrer, elle ne s'éteint plus, bref elle aime pas le LateX ou les matrices de Dirac... Je pense que je vais l'échanger et passer à un autre modèle, j'ai vu qu'il y avait la Kobo libra qui était en 7 pouces et qui autorisait le mode paysage, pensez-vous qu'il est possible de lire des pdf en pleine page de ce genre en 7 pouces sans avoir à zoomer? J'imagine que koreader corrige déjà qques pb.
Merci beaucoup par avance.
Danke fuer das video! Ich habe mir das inkpad bestellt. Ich denke das mit dem kontrast ist der einzig grosse minuspunkt. Ich denke, dass man mit ausreichender beleuchtung, dein umgebungslicht waere mir zum arbeiten zu dunkel, wird das gut funktionieren und mit den leds wird der kontrast auch besser, also wie man mag.
Hallo Phil, bist du mit dem Inkpad zufrieden? Wirkt es beim langen Lesen negativ auf die Augen bei pdf Dateien? Werde hauptsaechlich pdf Dateien lesen, für akademische Zwecke. Danke.
hallo bilelim, das lesen von pdfs ist für meine augen deutlich weniger anstrengend, als am pc (normaler 60hz monitor) oder am tablett. allerdings machen nur pdfs spaß, die pro seite nur einen block text haben. für jede pdf kann man sich eine optimale zoomstufe einstellen, die fest für diese pdf gespeichert wird und dann die ungenutzen ränder abschneidet. das blättern klappt auch deutlich schneller, als bei all den anderen ebooks, die ich getestet habe. trotzdem ist ein tablett sehr viel schneller, das muss man auch bedenken. die ganz neue generation der kindle ebook reader habe ich allerdings noch nicht in den fingern gehabt.
die dropbox anbindung finde ich sehr gut, so lade ich mir die pdfs in meinen speziellen ordner und habe sie nach dem abgleichen auch gleich auf dem ebook reader.
für mich der beste ebook reader. trotzdem ist die ebook reader technik immernoch ein kompromiss aus leistung und lesbarkeit. am besten selbst austesten mit eigenen pdfs. große pdfs mit viel bildern und grafiken brauchen manchmal deutlich länger zu laden. da lohnt sich das konvertieren in einen niedrigeren qualitätsstandart oft deutlich. zb habe ich den truckenbrodt (aerodynamik bibel) von 100 auf 20 mb verkleinert - durch qualitätsreduktion. nun läd er mehrfach so schnell und ich sehe trotzdem keinen unterschied.
zusammengefasst: die qualität der pdfs ist entscheidend. eingescannte seiten sind das denkbar schlechteste. geht aber auch, dauert nur etwas.
ich habe jetzt einfach alles so runtergeschrieben, wie es mir eingefallen ist. ich bitte die fehlende struktur zu entschuldigen.
viel spass mit oder ohne dem ebook reader ;)
lg
phil
Très intéressant, je m’intéresse à la Onyx Boox M96 Universe mais cette 8 pouces semble être bien pour les pdf
Thank you! Could you tell me if there are more useful 'apps' for the kobo aura HD/H2O?
Machiavelli Hi, sorry but I've no idea. koreader does most of the things I expect from a PDF reader so I've stopped looking for other apps. Cheers
What do you think about Kindle to read mathematics books?
Hey man,
Many thanks for this awesome video, those 37 minutes of my life spent watching ur video was worth it :-) .
If I may ask, does any of these two devices allow annotations on PDF ? ( if anyone else than OP has the answer, feel free to answer ;-)
Cheers from Frankreich
Duhendil Hi Duhendil, thanks for your comment. A button "Add note" is visible once you've selected a word or a sentence, but it is disabled. According to www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=239048 it seems koreader does not support the annotation feature yet.
Cheers
Thanks a lot for this review. It's really usefull. I only have one question : does Koreader have a column mode and, if yes, does it work as well as the one that's on the Pocketbook Inkpad ? Thank you.
Elliott Jackson I have found some answer here : github.com/koreader/koreader/issues/501
Good work! There's a thing i've figured out, for when you're reading pdf's that have somewhat crooked columns in them, that go slightly diagonally. You can slightly reduce the magnification by editing readerzooming.lua with any text editor at this part near the end:
elseif self.zoom_mode == "column" then
zoom = zoom_w * 2
And change number 2 to something smaller, like 1.8 or 1.9
The best for PDF textbooks is Onyx Boox 13" devices. Making notes on PDFs with a pen is great. Maybe other 13" devices are good es well. Everything smaller is not as fun.
Where did you get this cute frog rug????
....THANKS A LOT for this Video!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please tell me, what are your TOP 5 eReaders. (if possible also write a short keyword for each of them why it is in your top5)
....wo studierst du denn? die vielen formeln erinnern mich an mein elektrotechnik studium :-)
+juerhe1 Hallo, haben Sie Antwort bekommen? Ich würde gerade ebook kaufen (ich ahbe Kindle 6", Leider zu klein, nicht verwendbar - für pdf.). Danke
Hello,
First of all, thanks for your review. You helped me a lot.
I think about buying a Pocketbook Touch Lux 2, which is a 6" reader.
So, I would like to be sure: can pocketbooks be used in landscape mode like you do with your kobo at the end of the video? It seems pretty necessary on 6" screens.
Thanks again.
(You are french btw?)
I think he is German.
Henri Plassier (yes ^^)
What if you try to convert your PDF to Ebook using calibre software ?
Hugo Edits I tried. It didn't work. There are tons of errors in the converted epub
Is this ink pad 1 or 2?
Could you please tell us which version of Koreader you are using? (e.g. koreader-stable-v2014.04)
Alex Hi Alex,
Koreader v2014.11-3-g69b1cf9
Kobo Start Menu v2014.11.19
take care
Steven Chantal Thanks, is your Koreader crashing from time to time? I did try few versions on my Kobo H2O, but all of them cause a crash at some point. v2014.11-3-g69b1cf9 is not available on github anymore. Would you mind uploading it somewhere?
Please make a tutorial on how to install koreader
github.com/koreader/koreader/wiki/Installation-on-Kobo-devices#newer-model
Is the durability and longevity of KOBO AURA H2O good?
Yes, I have been using it practically every day for the past THREE YEARS. It still looks as new.
Does any one using koreader with Arabic or any other similar language?
Is it possible to make koreader as default app on ereader?
Yes, you just boot into KSM (not into nickel) and then touch "Start koreader" rather than touching any other area on the screen. Obviously you still need other KSM menu options (e.g. USB for usbnet communication with the device).
It's too bad that Sony quit making e-readers. They were the best for PDF docs and books. They do make a dedicated PDF reader but it is very expensive. I have the Kobo H2O with KoReader and I still use my old Sony for PDFs.
Parece um francês falando inglês
Mas estou seguro que é Alemão
Suena a acento alemán probablemente de Suiza.
So noone is going to mention his alien thumbs ?
It's not "irreversible".... :D Hahaha, l'accent français qui fait mal aux oreilles. Pourquoi est-ce que l'on est aussi mauvais pour prononcer l'anglais ? Sinon, vidéo vraiment sympa, merci !
Ça sonne très français st'accent 😏
Lol, Kobo pdf reader "completely useless"
Not only Kobo's pdf reader is completely useless, but ALL commercial software is complete junk. Only an ignorant person would use commercial software when there is a free alternative available.
You act quite arrogant and cherrypicking between two readers. Thanks for the review anyways, I watched it, learned with it.