How fast is the Red Bull compared to Ferrari 2024?

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  • Lap comparison between Max Verstappen and Charles Leclerc at the Bahrain Grand Prix
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  • @TheIceMan23
    @TheIceMan23 Před 3 měsíci +154

    i don't think Qualifying is Ferrari's weakness. It's the race where they need to be as fast

    • @zahidarifi7848
      @zahidarifi7848 Před 3 měsíci +12

      According to a lot of people after testing Ferrari is stronger in race pace now compared to quali so we will see today

    • @corbin6936
      @corbin6936 Před 3 měsíci

      @@zahidarifi7848will Red Bull have even stronger race pace though? Time will tell like you said

    • @zahidarifi7848
      @zahidarifi7848 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@corbin6936 100% red bull will be faster than Ferrari but by how much we don’t know.

    • @yokindo
      @yokindo Před 3 měsíci

      What a take? Fastest in the race wins? Spot on chap!

    • @Firemarioflower
      @Firemarioflower Před 2 měsíci

      WRONG. Leclerc is the GOTE

  • @LH44EVER
    @LH44EVER Před 3 měsíci +160

    leclerc's braking was crazy though

    • @stephensegal5187
      @stephensegal5187 Před 3 měsíci +4

      I agree. Next level 💯

    • @PjXu98
      @PjXu98 Před 3 měsíci +15

      Your profile pic is crazy though 😂

    • @sudeeppednekar8355
      @sudeeppednekar8355 Před 3 měsíci +6

      It's not his braking, Ferrari are carrying more downforce which means that he can afford to brake later, RB is had less downforce for more straight line speed which is why Max has to brake earlier

    • @andreaslinderholm6186
      @andreaslinderholm6186 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@sudeeppednekar8355 Not about his braking? Can you then explain Leclerc overtake on Perez in Las Vegas 2023 and at the 2022 USA GP? Leclerc has always been brave on the brakes just like Ricciardo.

    • @sudeeppednekar8355
      @sudeeppednekar8355 Před 3 měsíci

      @@andreaslinderholm6186 I'm talking about this lap not his driving overall. He's good on the brakes but that's not why he was catching up to Max in this comparison.

  • @fc192shibism3
    @fc192shibism3 Před 3 měsíci +80

    Hii Bro, could you do a comparison with Leclerc's Q2 and Max's Q3 timing? Would give us a better idea about their pace. Also, great video as always!!

    • @stephensegal5187
      @stephensegal5187 Před 3 měsíci +9

      Not a good comparison as the difference in grip was more in Q2. In Q3 RB nailed the front wing flap adjustment better than Ferrari.

    • @jungleboogie78
      @jungleboogie78 Před 3 měsíci +7

      Track conditions were different in Q3

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Před 3 měsíci +2

      No Q2 was different track temp, different wind, Q2 more cars on track with slipstream… around can NEVER compare Q2 times with Q3 times.

    • @fc192shibism3
      @fc192shibism3 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Redlingstein ahh i understand now, thanks.

    • @fc192shibism3
      @fc192shibism3 Před 2 měsíci

      @@jungleboogie78 ohh 😮

  • @user-st7xt6ol6u
    @user-st7xt6ol6u Před 3 měsíci +73

    I am not a Ferrari fan but I can tell that the two cars are really close... Verstappen was lucky enough to get a really good "tow" (slipstream) in the beginning of his lap. I can also tell that a)Leclerc has some serious braking skills and b) Redbull car can put the power down on the exit of the corners.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Před 3 měsíci +9

      No Charles simply didn’t hook up his last flying lap. Max did. Stop looking for excuses. All cars had tows during their lap

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Před 3 měsíci +1

      Its not abt braking skills, it’s abt set up of the car. Max takes more speed out of the corner. They always have different set ups.

    • @rickvangog5935
      @rickvangog5935 Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@Redlingstein bro stop being so mad, its pretty clear. Because if you actually watched it well, you noticed Max thought his lap wasn't enough and it could've been better. He also got a bit better tow then the ferrari's, but the difference isn't that big. What he sees is correct tho, and both Max and Leclerc could've gone faster, althought it was enough for Max to take pole. AND BEFORE YOU ATTACK ME TOO FOR DISAGREEING: I am a RB fan, and this guy you responded too legit said he isn't a Ferrari fan, yet you still say he makes up excuses. pretty low of you, next time just dont say anything bro
      enjoy ur day and the race!

    • @nicholastotoro7721
      @nicholastotoro7721 Před 3 měsíci +1

      People are acting as if that tow before going into T1 got Max .5 a second or something... 🤣
      He wasn't *that* close for that long.

    • @gpaje
      @gpaje Před 3 měsíci +3

      ​@@nicholastotoro7721 now after the first race I think a lot of people will realize this was a lot of fluff from Ferrari guys.

  • @blue0856
    @blue0856 Před 3 měsíci +21

    Charles keeping the late breaking strategy alive 😃

  • @lexfrancis5916
    @lexfrancis5916 Před 3 měsíci +17

    How do you make these? Like where do you get the data?

  • @shaykat4555
    @shaykat4555 Před 3 měsíci +9

    Can you do LEC Q2 and VER Q3 please ?

  • @Gome.o
    @Gome.o Před 2 měsíci +4

    Suggestion: Put the times horizontally across and closer together. It's hard to draw focus on both of them at the same time, so I cannot compare the minute time difference for myself when watching.

  • @DonLee1980
    @DonLee1980 Před 2 měsíci +3

    all the damage was done in the first sector especially the first straight, where max grabbed a significant slip stream

  • @Hilly347
    @Hilly347 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Pretty even quali pace but could be a whole different story with race pace.

  • @ortiz5922
    @ortiz5922 Před 2 měsíci

    That RB corner exit is just absurd

  • @fullgripf1
    @fullgripf1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    can u do the ferrari q2 and ver q3

  • @andreaslinderholm6186
    @andreaslinderholm6186 Před 3 měsíci +17

    Verstappen got a massive tow of Piastri

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Před 3 měsíci

      No Charles didn’t hook up his last flying lap. Geez stop making excuses. Even Charles himself says it.

    • @elChirrinChirriondelDiablo
      @elChirrinChirriondelDiablo Před 3 měsíci +3

      “Massive” you say…

    • @maxverstacrayon8367
      @maxverstacrayon8367 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Redlingstein im a max fan, he got a tow, if you watch more then the highlights (even in the highlights probably) you will see he had a nice tow to start his lap. You can see it here also. Charles also didnt hook it up but that has nothing to do with what the comment said.

    • @Williamxmr
      @Williamxmr Před 2 měsíci +1

      Did he get a massive tow in the race beating Ferrari by 25 seconds in front alone?

    • @abbasawan6753
      @abbasawan6753 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Williamxmr These hopeless Leclerc and Ferrari fans jeez. It's always either the car or just bad-luck causing Leclerc to lose according to them lol. He seems unbeatable on pure merit and race craft apparently hahaha

  • @emilandersson4001
    @emilandersson4001 Před 2 měsíci

    Since the Q3 qualifying was so close P2-P9 it would be fun to see a comparison with all the cars

  • @JakeM218
    @JakeM218 Před 2 měsíci +2

    So most of Leclerc’s pace advantage was in the braking zones… then during the race he suffers a brake failure of some sort that saw a 100c difference between both front brake temperatures (maybe a visor tear off stuck in a brake duct?).
    Poor guy!!

  • @vedmatai1607
    @vedmatai1607 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Red Bull DRS absolutely dominates on the straights

  • @sportsmaniac1446
    @sportsmaniac1446 Před 2 měsíci +1

    How are these videos made can anyone please tell me, because I am really curious!!

  • @zachattack3ee
    @zachattack3ee Před 2 měsíci +2

    Important to note max got a tow from Piastri at the start of his lap

  • @victorlq
    @victorlq Před 2 měsíci +1

    cara ganhou no vácuo..... Leclerc muito juvenil.... era só pegar vácuo também

  • @patentesla
    @patentesla Před 3 měsíci +3

    Could you compare Leclerc Q2 lap vs Verstappen pole lap please?

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Před 3 měsíci +1

      Ofc not! Track temp, air temp, wind…the situation completely changed. You can never compare Q2 with Q3. Often the fastest times are in Q2 not Q3, when the pressure is really on.

    • @aryamansingh2007
      @aryamansingh2007 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@Redlingsteinno q3 is mostly faster you see many races

    • @ivoskvrce7718
      @ivoskvrce7718 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@Redlingstein see you are really salty Red Bull fan. And no, q2 times are usually slower than q3 times so stop with nonsenses in every comment you post here

    • @ramezehab662
      @ramezehab662 Před 3 měsíci

      No one pushes in Q2 to get pole position especially max , he did only one run

  • @Keepraging
    @Keepraging Před 2 měsíci +1

    Max got a massive tow into T1

  • @notniko6914
    @notniko6914 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Charles was on old tyres in Q2, please make a comparasion between Charles' Q2 lap and Max's pole lap

    • @umungus518
      @umungus518 Před 2 měsíci

      "Please use a track that was different in temerapture, had more cars on track, had different wind etc to compare the laps instead of the same temp for each, same wind for each, same amount of cars on track. We have to give ferarri as much of a handicap as possible"

    • @abbasawan6753
      @abbasawan6753 Před 2 měsíci

      @@umungus518 Bruhhh 😂

    • @DizzyRL
      @DizzyRL Před 2 měsíci

      ⁠@@umungus518no lmao. Yes, Charles Leclerc was faster in qualifying. But it WAS on better track conditions. When it came to Q3 he couldn’t follow it up. And that’s fine, he is a good driver in a good car. And I think it would be cool to see where Leclerc beat Max out but it doesn’t do any good for showing speed during qualifying

    • @umungus518
      @umungus518 Před 2 měsíci

      @@DizzyRL i like how you said no and then wrote a paragraph agreeing with me lmao the track conditions were better in q2, thats my whole point🤣

    • @DizzyRL
      @DizzyRL Před 2 měsíci

      @@umungus518 oh then why did you say “we have to give ferrari as much of a handicap as possible” mocking the RedBull fans?

  • @user-wq4xf5ye6v
    @user-wq4xf5ye6v Před 2 měsíci

    What kind of person are you.........!? Stunning contrnts everytime Ssoo beautiful

  • @yuchang7397
    @yuchang7397 Před 2 měsíci +1

    make a 2023's alpine vs 2024's alpine lol

  • @gokhanturcan941
    @gokhanturcan941 Před 3 měsíci

    russel vs leclerc pls

  • @XxXgabbO95XxX
    @XxXgabbO95XxX Před 3 měsíci +1

    If that's the question then it would arguably be more fair to compare max time with Leclerc Q2 time.

  • @matthewloughlin970
    @matthewloughlin970 Před 3 měsíci +9

    Sorry guys have you seen the reports on redbull Tyre deg

    • @IPH-sd1zv
      @IPH-sd1zv Před 3 měsíci

      practically non existent right? lmao if that's true gg's max roll credits

  • @ionutortian5885
    @ionutortian5885 Před 2 měsíci

    Rbr are very good in race, they was with 1 sec/lap quicker than others, this is astronomical advantage

  • @TimRobertsen
    @TimRobertsen Před 3 měsíci

    Continuous delta ?

  • @gpaje
    @gpaje Před 3 měsíci +1

    So many Ferrari guys sticking their heads in the sand about session 2, I think today after the race everyone realizes Red Bull (especially Max) is in a different league. But hey, a Ferrari was faster in one session over one lap, that's something to hold on to right?

  • @sepp0
    @sepp0 Před 2 měsíci

    One thing we can tell from this comparison: The Ferrari is actually faster on the straights than the Red Bull. While Red Bull currently houses unmatched corner speeds, and tire degredation that seems to be near zero, the Ferrari might actually boast more power, which might give them a better chance at circuits like Monza. You can see this since nearly halfway through the straights, the Ferrari actually pulls itself closer to Max. I doubt it will deliver better results than the Red Bull this season considering the previous year and simply how compatible Max is with the design of the RB20, but its something interesting nonetheless.

  • @henrycorzo9834
    @henrycorzo9834 Před 2 měsíci

    Máx hace vueltas de clasificación en la qualy y en la carrera, Leclerc sólo en la qualy. Eso hace la diferencia.

  • @chillikoala
    @chillikoala Před 2 měsíci

    Looks like the Honda has great acceleration out of corners.

  • @user-dx8uy2oy4m
    @user-dx8uy2oy4m Před 2 měsíci +1

    А почему не сравниваете с другими показателями Шарля, где он был быстрее?

  • @alexphillips7846
    @alexphillips7846 Před 2 měsíci

    That comparison suggests that Red Bull’s advantage is in acceleration. Everywhere drive skill is involved the Ferrari seems better.

  • @PjXu98
    @PjXu98 Před 3 měsíci +14

    The one lap pace of Ferrari is pretty equal to Red Bull's. I just think Max's tyre management is just too good for both Ferrari's to keep up with

    • @IPH-sd1zv
      @IPH-sd1zv Před 3 měsíci +1

      it would be the most charles thing ever if lewis came over and won a championship in 2025 lol

    • @Firemarioflower
      @Firemarioflower Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@IPH-sd1zvNot at all. Lulu is pathetic

  • @autozone5695
    @autozone5695 Před 2 měsíci

    That Ferrari is pretty damn fast quali day, seems they just can’t keep pace during a proper race. Probably a tyre deg issue. Maybe the sprint races will be a different story.

  • @facts3221
    @facts3221 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Ahahah who said it is close again? 😂

  • @TheMicstep
    @TheMicstep Před 2 měsíci +1

    RedBull2023 vs Redbull2024

  • @fastlightning9287
    @fastlightning9287 Před 3 měsíci

    I don't understand what happened to Ferrari's straight line speed. They said they improved the engine but their max speed became worse. Did they sacrifice it for speed in turns or smth?

  • @karlbrown7258
    @karlbrown7258 Před 2 měsíci

    It would be great if lectern was max's team mate. F1 need to great drivers in the best car

  • @Explorer_1997
    @Explorer_1997 Před 2 měsíci

    So u telling me Max wasn’t just lucky with the tow he got from Piastri, in fact he dominated the whole lap!

  • @erhan4123
    @erhan4123 Před 2 měsíci

    It looks like Red Bull has better acceleration and lower downforce setup overall, and Ferrari has better deceleration and higher low-speed corner due to higher downforce.

  • @arissenpai
    @arissenpai Před 2 měsíci

    W11 vs lmp in le mans

  • @ilkermutlu9298
    @ilkermutlu9298 Před 2 měsíci

    Redbulls secret is about acceleration ı think...

  • @VanSkye
    @VanSkye Před 2 měsíci

    Q : How to slow down Max???
    A : Send him to the new team( Ferrari)

  • @supermccnasty4176
    @supermccnasty4176 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Ferrari lost pretty much all its time in a straight line. Leclerc was actually gaining in the corners and under braking

    • @Williamxmr
      @Williamxmr Před 2 měsíci

      It's called traction out of the corner

    • @Firemarioflower
      @Firemarioflower Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@WilliamxmrIt's called driver skill numbnuts

  • @preethpunamia5606
    @preethpunamia5606 Před 3 měsíci

    Redbull is faster on a straight line. The Honda engine is really powerful this year. But Ferrari was faster in all the slow speed corners.

  • @giannissergis5940
    @giannissergis5940 Před 2 měsíci

    RedBull is much slower in the qualifying than it is during the race. Ferrari is the exact opposite as it always has been, looks way faster during quali than it actually is in race

  • @fernandodekker5412
    @fernandodekker5412 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Max on pole❤

  • @mikeg8447
    @mikeg8447 Před 2 měsíci

    commenting to feed the algorithm

  • @helloidk5047
    @helloidk5047 Před 3 měsíci +180

    You forgot to mention that Leclerc was faster in Q2 without slipstream and worse track conditions. So probably Ferrari is faster

    • @peter.nikolov7261
      @peter.nikolov7261 Před 3 měsíci +33

      No they are not

    • @maxheeringa753
      @maxheeringa753 Před 3 měsíci +19

      Yes, just like last year in quali. But again Max made the difference,imo

    • @davezhu7651
      @davezhu7651 Před 3 měsíci +7

      That was more like a lucky one. RB consistently showing faster pace is means they are overall faster. But we'll see if that's true in the long run.

    • @pieter6342
      @pieter6342 Před 3 měsíci +18

      The hotter track made the track more grippy, so they got worse when it cooled later in the evening

    • @Happy-wb8gi
      @Happy-wb8gi Před 3 měsíci +7

      Tbh it's HONDA, Not RB😂

  • @mathaissjsj
    @mathaissjsj Před 3 měsíci

    25

  • @CarlosLopez-iy6jr
    @CarlosLopez-iy6jr Před 2 měsíci

    Honda vs Ferrari Honda all day 😉

  • @mig-1761
    @mig-1761 Před 2 měsíci

    See you guys In 2025

  • @amazed-tnk
    @amazed-tnk Před 3 měsíci

    See you in 2025.

  • @TheHonestJock
    @TheHonestJock Před 3 měsíci

    This is awesome BUT can you please do one for Leclercs q2 lap vs his and max's q3 laps, Charles was faster in q2 than max was in q3

  • @isakhelgesson8421
    @isakhelgesson8421 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Ferrari may likely be a contender for the constructors title this year.

    • @critiqalerror
      @critiqalerror Před 2 měsíci

      I like that assumption
      To bad it's not gonna be realistic

    • @isakhelgesson8421
      @isakhelgesson8421 Před 2 měsíci

      After watching the race: I think redbull has already won this year 🫡

  • @kuen0206
    @kuen0206 Před 2 měsíci

    R B V S R B P L S

  • @arthurangus3005
    @arthurangus3005 Před 2 měsíci

    Now compare his Q2 time with pole time... wtf, it wasn't even the fastest time..

  • @kenethpescador206
    @kenethpescador206 Před 3 měsíci +2

    max have more slipstream in outlap than charles

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Před 3 měsíci +1

      😂 stop trying to make excuses. Even Charles said he didn’t hook up that last flyer. Charles and Lando both said they failed to put their last lap together. Max did. Accept it.

  • @user-cw4bs8ub2b
    @user-cw4bs8ub2b Před 3 měsíci

    Shouldn’t the Ferrari be faster in qualifying? That’s what it was last year, if RedBull are this close in qualifying haven’t Ferrari lost ground?

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Před 3 měsíci

      Max and Charles have been very close in Quali for 2 seasons now. It depends on track, temp, nailing that last lap. Its been close for so many Quali’s between them.

    • @Firemarioflower
      @Firemarioflower Před 2 měsíci

      It was not faster last year. Are you blind? It was Leclerc tjat made the difference. Sainz was often f* king slow

  • @biruturban4783
    @biruturban4783 Před 3 měsíci

    Wow this is not good. +0.228 against max "RB disaster car" is the big big big problems

  • @samsung40_media87
    @samsung40_media87 Před 3 měsíci

    2024 is looking like another boring season

  • @hardware64
    @hardware64 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Looks like driver diff to me tbh, that ferrari looks fast both in the straights and in the corners

  • @ScuderiaFans
    @ScuderiaFans Před 3 měsíci

    Let's goooooooo 🤙❤ All the best to the team for today's season starter! Let's go Charles & Carlos, let's get the win! 💪🏽 💚🤍❤ Forza Ferrari! 💚🤍❤

  • @i_934_shreyasjagadale5
    @i_934_shreyasjagadale5 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Leclerc was on old set of softs!!!!

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Před 3 měsíci

      No he wasn’t. He was on new softs. He did 2 runs, 1 on used softs and the last flyer on new softs. Get your facts straight. Charles even explained after that that 1st lap on used tyres got him OUT of the flow and that’s why he couldn’t hook up that last flyer on the new softs.

  • @harisbesirovic2656
    @harisbesirovic2656 Před 2 měsíci

    Red Bull have better, acceleration

  • @moi3531
    @moi3531 Před 3 měsíci +1

    this isn't a fair comparison because Verstappen got slipstream from Piastri at the start of the lap.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Před 3 měsíci

      😂😂 you mean, Charles didn’t hook up his last lap, as he himself said after…. Stop searching for excuses. Both Charles and Lando didn’t pull out their best lap on the last lap. Their own fault. And both said so

  • @Rahul-Nalawade
    @Rahul-Nalawade Před 3 měsíci

    Btw, Ferrari was 01:29.165 in Q2

    • @elChirrinChirriondelDiablo
      @elChirrinChirriondelDiablo Před 3 měsíci

      So?
      Pole position is taken in Q3, not Q2 as points are given by n the race not qualifying.

  • @user-uy4bt1wp2m
    @user-uy4bt1wp2m Před 3 měsíci

    +0234 in 1 lap
    How about 50 lap

  • @yahoo89u7
    @yahoo89u7 Před 3 měsíci

    Verstappen got a slipstream from piastri to start the lap. Would have been very close without it

    • @Firemarioflower
      @Firemarioflower Před 2 měsíci

      Not close at all, Charles would have stomped him

  • @demo7790
    @demo7790 Před 3 měsíci

    Max maintained that slipstream he got.
    Else id say Leclerc is on same level as max, even quicker i suppose.

  • @TheDilan123
    @TheDilan123 Před 3 měsíci +1

    q3 lap does not count max got a slipstream from oscar only reason why he got pole he didnt do by himself like leclerc did just facts.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Před 3 měsíci +2

      😂 you Ferrari fans don’t even listen to Charles. He didn’t hook up his last lap. He was disappointed cos of that. Stop searching for excuses.

    • @elChirrinChirriondelDiablo
      @elChirrinChirriondelDiablo Před 3 měsíci

      It’s the other way around, Q2 laps is the ones that doesn’t “count”, as long it good enough to make into Q3 it’s ok.

  • @Dismiacs
    @Dismiacs Před 3 měsíci

    you shoukdhave done his Q2 lap

  • @pandaeagle8785
    @pandaeagle8785 Před 3 měsíci +12

    Ferrari quicker in Q2 than pole time. Ferrari better

    • @petros5155
      @petros5155 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Hopefully

    • @maxheeringa753
      @maxheeringa753 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yes, Ferrari is but the drivers aint. Max makes the difference, imo

    • @petros5155
      @petros5155 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@maxheeringa753 In pure pace, leclerc can match him

    • @Douglas117955
      @Douglas117955 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Max made a mistake in q3, prediction was a high 1,28.
      There is even a radio of him apologizing to the team.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Před 3 měsíci +1

      😂 you can’t compare Q2 toQ3 times 😂 track evolution, temp changes, wind changes 😂 so funny how despirate you are. Charles said he didn’t hook up his last flyer on his new softs. That’s simply it. Pressure, track evolution, less cars on track, wind, track position, tyres in or out of the optimal window, it all matters.

  • @reisanibal1
    @reisanibal1 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Actually Ferrari is faster... but ok..

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Před 3 měsíci +1

      Ferrari isnt lol on Quali pace they match eachother. Charles didn’t hook up his last lap, as he himself explained. Had he than it would’ve been battle for few hundreds for pole. On Quali pace in these situations and on this track they were abt equal on Quali pace. But Charles simply didn’t do his best lap on the last lap. It happens. The pressure, track evolution… everything matters

    • @Mark-ef8oc
      @Mark-ef8oc Před 3 měsíci +1

      Still faster?

    • @reisanibal1
      @reisanibal1 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Mark-ef8oc Yes. Faster in quali. That's what I meant.
      Also not far off in race pace as well, as evident from how close Sainz was to Perez.
      Ferrari will take a couple of wins this season.

    • @critiqalerror
      @critiqalerror Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@reisanibal1still coping?

    • @Mark-ef8oc
      @Mark-ef8oc Před 2 měsíci

      @@reisanibal1 Sainz close to Perez but not close to max. Drivers make the difference