Razor MX350 Dirt Rocket UPGRADED! 24v to 36v; What I Put In, 1st Run, Lights, Sunsets, Golf Cart 🍻
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- čas přidán 18. 04. 2022
- Upgraded My Son’s Razor MX350 Dirt Rocket. 1st Run Upgraded @ 3:48.
It comes stock with a 24v 250w Motor, 24v 250w controller, 4 pin/24v twist throttle & (2) 12v 7ah batteries.
I pulled all of it out except the motor. Decided to overvolt the stock motor for now. Eventually put a new motor in. Everything was basically plug and play except the controller to battery connector will need to be changed to fit what battery you go with. I used an XT60 Bc the Lipo I got came with one. FYI, the Lipo comes with a male XT60 not a female like you would expect an RC Lipo to be. I had soldered mine on my controller already so I just made a female to female adapter from the extra TINNED wire provided. The headlights and taillights are plug and play also. A MUST for night riding. All links are below. Going to upgrade the motor soon. Hoping a 36v 750w motor will fit. And a 36v 30ah Lipo on the way. But the 10ah battery lasts ALL DAY. We are HAPPY as hell with the setup. FIRE FIRE💯🍻
What I went with:
-Kept stock 24v 350w motor in
-Fast Scooters 36v 500w controller & 6 pin/36v twist throttle; Overvolt Kit:
www.ebay.com/itm/144138151533...
-(1) BTR Power 36v 10ah Lipo:
www.ebay.com/itm/125209693765...
-Headlights/Horn:
www.ebay.com/itm/222627137235...
-Taillights:
www.ebay.com/itm/132221336857...
#Razor #DirtRocket #KruseNStuff - Zábava
*A great upgrade to the bike!~~~ Razor MX350 Dirt Rocket UPGRADED*
💪🏾💯 nice upgrade to the Razor
THANKS Coach🙏💯🍻👑
Beautiful mini moto my friend😀👍👍👍
THANKS Tony. AWESOME little rig.💯🍻
good stuf fman. Just got this little bike for my nephew. Will be upgrading after his first ride. Appreciate the video and the links!
Nice. AWESOME Little bike. We still have ours going STRONGER than ever. Highly UPGRADED now though. I actually just put in a new motor. It’s EXTREME! Definitely Man, No Problem.🙏💯🍻
They have Xc 60 battery adapters to connect two batteries together. Works great for converting male to female also. Great project
Appreciate it Man💯🙏🙏🍻
Heck yeah man, I upgraded a razor ground force drifter and put a set of front wheels on the rear, took out the 24v kit and went with a 48v 1800watt kit, she rips now!
NICE. Yeah I DEFINITELY thought about getting that same setup. 48v 1800w. But I would have to do some cutting and welding for that. And idk if the wife would be happy with it that fast. Would of like to go brushless tho. I don’t think I’m done with her yet. Let him enjoy it like this for a bit, then I may get a bigger motor.🍻bro
@@KruseNStuff yeah, u don't want to start them off on anything too fast but honestly if u geared down on that 48v setup it really wouldn't be that fast on the top end just the acceleration lol if u go with a kelly controller u can tune it and have a really soft start cause this setup definitely doesn't lol
@@Todd_GerhardtI literally just finished the 48v 1800w setup on my son's razor ground force drifter. The throttle spikes and he's having a very difficult time slow accelerator. I also have some 10" vevor gokart tires in the rear and a 13T sprocket. It can't move me anymore. Thinking about swapping back over to the stock 9T
@DescartesRenegade the big tires took away your torque. Add a bigger sprocket to the axle. I made a 20mm bore work but if u have availability to a machine shop get a 19mm bore and have it opened to 19.9mm
@@DescartesRenegadedid you have to weld anything? Do not have the means to weld so yah just wondering bc I want to do this to
cool as hell 😀 great job😀👌👍👍
THANKS BRO. Should be way faster Thursday or Friday💯🙏🍻
Got a link directly to the full 48v setup?
very good video
So I installed the kit with a 36V (50A peak) lithium battery and... It is soo fast with my boy on it lmao. He did 26mph with stock gearing and literally kept up with my Talaria in eco mode until he maxed out. His mom is not happy about it, but he and I are so stoked hahaha.
LOL. AWESOME. For us at least.😁🍻
Carlitos do you have the link to thebattery you upgraded to? And any issues with the controller or motor burning up with the 36V?
I would also like to know if you had any issues with the stock setup and a 36v battery?
@@sanchezsj I had to replace the motor because it eventually burnt out, if that's the kind of issue you're asking about. The battery and controller are both doing great and still going strong.
What controler and what new motor did you go with?
To the one I have, I only upgraded the 36v battery and I add a fuse nothing else, and it's working fine.
Nice. Make it work. Keep doing your thing💯🍻
What all parts did you buy? How is it holding up now?
@@fishinfever3577 I started with a 36v fast scooters overvolt kit with a 36v BTR power lithium battery. The kit comes with throttle of your choice. It runs great like that but you will eventually burn the 24v motor out. You can put a 36v motor in and run it like that(no overvolt) and it will last for a long time. Or you can do a 48v kit, battery & 36v motor(overvolting it) or you can do a 48v kit with 48v battery and 48v motor. These are all brushed options. I think overvolting is awesome but It’s harder on the motor. I still run a 36v 1000w kit motor and battery in an RSF350 as we speak. Still runs like it first did . The mx350 now? Here’s a link…..E&C ULTIMATE Razor MX350 w/ EXTREME EC4P Motor; KellyKVD-72v24ah-15/44-Welded FW; Speed Run @ 5:03
czcams.com/video/C9_OXkoy9nU/video.html
Its AWESOME!!!!
@@fishinfever3577 i just installed this 36v lithium CAO MM - battery its an art and the fuse. Its working great still running fast.
Did you keep the charging port cables i want to solder the xt60 cable to the controller but i see it has the charging port cable that confused me a bit
No. Same. I cut the battery ends & solder an xt60 f to the controller & charge thru the battery charge port.
Just ordered these parts, can’t wait to install! Was thinking of just running stock gearing for now do you think that should be fine?
Nice. I would run it stock 11/80 first & gear it up when you want more top end.💯🍻
Do you need to run the 30amp fuse?
I am trying the same thing. Waiting for the kit from eBay. How did you connect the throttle wire with the air on off switch to the controller?
Nice. Here’s a link explaining in detail. I use a Lipo, so I don’t use the on/off switch or charge port. I turns on by key and I charge through the Lipo charge port. Fast Scooters Kits Explained In 5 Minutes - 3 Main Connections -36v or 48v -What I Do To Run A Lipo
czcams.com/video/RCdlbf71134/video.html
So, just to be clear, you need both the
- Fast Scooters 36v 500w controller & 6 pin/36v twist throttle; Overvolt Kit and the
- (1) BTR Power 36v 10ah Lipo
from ebay? both of these will make the bike ride longer than stock?
100%
Now u need to get the mx500 and upgrade it for u to rife along side!
Lol. That’s what the skateboard is for😁🍻
Is this new controller variable speed as you twist the throttle?
Yes. Better than stock for sure.💯🍻
Hi , when setting the battery up, how to you connect the the wire that comes with the battery to the fast scooter connecter.
The kit is plug & play with (3) lead acid 12v batteries. If you want to change to a Lipo battery, you will need to cut that off and solder your matching battery connector on. He has yet to make a kit for plug & play with a lipo.
@@KruseNStuff can you cut off the existing battery connector off and solder it to the new lipo battery?
@@john101090 yes. Cut old battery connectors off & attach the connector of your choice that matches your battery of choice. I use BTR power for these kits. So I have (1) female xt60 on ours to match the male connector that comes on the BTR power batteries.💯🍻
That kid is gonna get all the girls if he pulls up with that to the playground🥶🥶🥶🥶
Lol🍻
Would you be able to run this setup with one 40v 6amp ryobi battery or two 18v 4amp batteries.
Would one be better than another?
I’ve never run drill batteries but know others have. So I can’t say for sure. But in my opinion you are going to want a better battery than those. Grab a 36v Lipo with a 25 to 50 amp bms. Fully charged is 42v, minimum voltage is 30v I believe. Grab a Lipo.💯🍻
I contacted fast scooter and they said I would need a 30amp bms lithium ion battery otherwise it would cutoff but the battery you linked is 25amp, obviously it’s working but do you know why they said it wouldn’t work with your battery?
No idea. Works just fine with my rigs for over a year now.💯🍻
Where can I get this kit to upgrade one for my kid? That's awesome!
What’s up Jeff. You can get this kit from Fast Scooters on EBay. If you’re trying to go Lipo instead of stock lead acid batteries, I suggest BTR Power Lithium batteries. They have been great with theses kits. ALL links needed are in description. Let me know if you have any more questions after that.💯🍻
@@KruseNStuff awesome thank you for the fast response I appreciate all your content!
How do you inflate mx350 tires??? Having a hard time inflating my brother's mx350 tire
If you mean the valve stem is falling into the rim, I use a plier to pull it out and a needle nose plier to then grab the bottom. Then fill it. Once filled, you can let go, it will stay out.
Are torque, top end, and acceleration noticeably improved over stock?
Yes. Definitely noticeable💯🍻
@@KruseNStuff Nice. My son needs his bike sped up some. He's gained maybe 8lbs since I got him the bike so we have to make up for it somehow lol. Thanks for the prompt reply, brochacho!
Do you use the same charger for the battery or do you need a different one?
No the stock charger is for the stock lead acid batteries. If you order a kit and still using lead acid, he would supply the new charger. If you get a kit and go lithium battery. The lithium battery will come with its correct charger.💯🍻
@@KruseNStuff awesome thank you. I'll probably be back with more questions lol
Can you do this same upgrade with the rsf350?
Yes. Anything you can do with this, you can do with the RSF350. Very similar.💯🙏🍻
What if I wanted to add another 12 volt battery would it still be plug and play ?
Yup. These kits are actually made to be plug n play for exactly that. I just do a single Lipo, so I cut that part off and match my battery connector. But YES. 100%.🙏💯🍻
Where can I buy the kit. I'm not sure which kits are compatible with what
Links are in description. They work on basically every razor rig & even many other projects. I even overvolted my power wheelchair scooter which has a 24v motor with a 48v kit. If you have a 12v motor, get the 24v kit. If you have a 24v motor get the 36v kit. If you have a 36v motor, get the 48v kit. And whatever kit you get, get the battery to match the kit or if using lead acid batteries, get the extra batteries needed to match the kit.💯🍻
Thank you for posting this, I’m setting up the same mx350 for my son, where did you find the single 36 volt slim battery ?
What’s up man. Everything you need is in the description.💯🙏🍻
What would I do to make this bikes battery to last longer? My 7 year old daughter loves this little bike but it's kinda slow and only last about 15 minutes before needing charged again. Thank you for any help
If I had a fully stock 24v 350w Mx350 & I’m building it for a 7 year old, I’d keep the stock 24v motor & OverVolt it to 36v w/ a 36v Fast Scooters Kit. Which comes with a 36v 1000w controller & 36v twist throttle. I’d also go with a 36v Lipo instead of the lead acid batteries..
Where the battery connects on the new 36v controller, I cut off the ends and solder the matching connector I need for my Lipo of choice. We use 36v BTR power batteries for these small builds with no issues for over a year now. But your Lipo of choice is yours, as will the connector to match it. Links are in the description.🙏💯🍻
@@KruseNStuff bro thank you
@@KruseNStuff I'm about to buy exactly what you said. About how long of battery life will we get
@@sickduck66 the 10ah really is PLENTY to start. Way longer than stock. You will notice the difference all the way around.💯💯🍻
@KruseNStuff 36v 15ah BtrPower Lifepo4 it is Boss Thank you for your time
Is it possible to put bigger wheels on these?
On the front with new forks, yes. On the rear, the only way would be to get a bigger wheel’d hub motor & cut the stock motor mount tray out. Otherwise you’re stuck with stock size in the rear.💯🍻
how is the run time battery life on this ? more than 60 min?
Way better than stock. Yeah probably around that. Worth it.💯🍻
I don’t seem to understand how to buy the throttle kit because I want to get the one you have. Do I just buy it and I will get the throttle you have?
Go through the photos he has up after clicking link. There will be a number by it. Put that in the comment section of your purchase order.💯🍻
@@KruseNStuffoh yea and one more question. Is the throttle variable where I can adjust how much throttle I want? I hate the stock one😂
No not on these cheaper kits. E&C kits are variable. And tunable.💯🍻
@@KruseNStuff damn I wished the throttle would be like a Jetson or a Super 73 where I can go slow or fast with the throttle
@@c2shmood You can by twisting only. No variable speed switch. But really not needed TBH💯🍻
You got the links for the stuff
Everything should be in the description💯🍻
Hey so I want to do the same exact thing same battery and everything on my mx350 but I’m just confused on the battery connecting part, I know I have to get a female xt60 adapter but how do I take off the other adapter and make it be able to charge and fully functional?
You’ll just cut the battery ends off. Red and black. And solder on your matching connector. The battery will charge through the battery itself.
@@KruseNStuff Would a RC XT60 Male To Deans Plug Female T Connector Adapter Car Plane Lipo Battery on ebay work if I didn't want to sauder?
@@penzygames If you don’t want to solder, you can try butt splicing. Which is crimping the ends to the cut wires then heat shrinking after.💯🍻
@@penzygames they also sell splices with solder in them. Just get a torch and torch the solder and heat shrink. The BTR batteries come with a wire connected to the connector already. All you have to do is splice the wire given with the cut wires you cut on the controller. Red/black.
would a "XT60 Male to EC3 Female NoWire Adapter XT-60 Wireless Battery Connector" from ebay work?@@KruseNStuff
How did you open the box
What box are you referring to? The battery compartment? 4 or 5 screws will take those off.💯🍻
how fast will a 36v 500w motor go with it?
You would need either a 36v kit or a 48v kit to run a 36v 500w motor. It would all depend on gearing. I forget exactly what we got with our 36v 800w but there’s a ton of update videos on the mx350 on this channel.🔥🔥💯🙏🍻
What motor would you recommend I got the same controller throttle and battery
I use the stock 24v motor for what you have. You can also upgrade to a 36v 1000w motor but it’s longer. So you would have to put 1/2” spacer in between the mount and where it’s mounted on the bike. That way you clear the other side where motor sticks out. I originally just angled the motor over the bar and it works great. But I have since put spacers in to keep it straight. This kit will work with the 36v 1000w motor also. But In having the bigger motor, you will be ready for the 48v kit when you’re ready. Here’s a video of what I originally did czcams.com/video/vrHuegzRIf8/video.html
@@KruseNStuff so the difference in the motors in your links are with and without bracket right? And also changing out the sprocket does what? I’m new to all this and I’m doing this for my son. He’s been enjoying his bike since I put the new kit on!!!
@@joeyhernandez3333get the one with brackets. Wherever you can find it. Just type my1020 36v 1000w brushed motor. The gearing change will either give you more low end torque or more top end speed. Bigger rear sorocket(more teeth) = more torque. So does making the motor sprocket smaller(less teeth). More top end….bigger motor sprocket (more teeth) or smaller rear sprocket(less teeth). And the trick is to find YOUR “SWEET SPOT”. Or his in this case. I know that the stock 24v motor is a pain to get the sprocket off, so rear is the way to go. But with the 36v 1000w it’s much easier to get off, leaving everything open. Let me know if you need any other help💯🍻
@@joeyhernandez3333 if you fast forward to about 1:54 on this video, you will see what I did with the spacers. czcams.com/video/G5qd-xx24zQ/video.html
@@joeyhernandez3333 gearing is a math problem. Rear sprocket (big) divided by motor sprocket (small) gives you your formula. Which is how many times the motor sprocket spins before the rear sprocket spins once. So if I’m running 10/54 on my quad……The motor sprocket spins 5.4 times before the rear sprocket spins once. And you’ll see how you can use that. Hope all that helps.🍻
what battery I gotta get to make it go a lease like 60 to 70 mph
You need an EXTREME Kit from E&C for $899. Fully customize your own motor mount to fit the EC4P Motor. Get the biggest 76v ah battery that will fit. Probably max 32ah. And gear it all the way up. 44t rear sprocket. And the biggest drive sprocket you can find. You WILL get dam near close. But you would want to upgrade the brakes and possibly add a front. You will need stopping power. No way around it.💯🍻
Was everything plug and play except battery ? I just bought this kit
Yessir💯🍻
@@KruseNStuff yaaaaaaaaay🤣🤣
@KruseN Stuff how many miles do you get now
How long does the battery last?
Way better than stock lead acid batteries. I believe with this 36v 10ah battery, you see anywhere from 10-15 miles💯🍻
how fast does it go?
In this video, with this kit, stock gearing, I’d say about 20-23mph. Nower days, with an E&C kit, more like 57mph “Just Struttin’” E&C TruMoto Little Bit Razor MX350 -1st Ride! EC4P, Eon 72v24ah Lithium, SX500 Fork
czcams.com/video/sqel-GueGlY/video.html💯🙏🍻
how did you disconnect the on and off switch
Just disconnect it from the old controller. I did not use it. It turns on by key ignition and charges through the battery itself.
@@KruseNStuff ok thank you!! also im trying to get the side covers off and i cant seem to get it off how did you do that?
@@slashskates3298 They are held on by about 5 screws. 2 on bottom of one side and the other. And another in the front I believe. Should be pretty easy.💯🍻
@@KruseNStuff i know but there is one screw that i dont have the tool to take off do you know what tool you used
@@slashskates3298 should just be a regular Philips screw driver or Alan wrench. Probably a 5mm or 6mm. You’ll get it figured out & be a pro in no time.💯🍻
Where to get this stuff
Fast scooters on eBay. If you’re trying to OverVolt your stock 24v motor, scoop a 36v OverVolt kit for about $60. And a 36v lithium battery and you’re good. We use BTR power batteries. A 36v 10ah is $189. So about a $250 upgrade. Worth it. Links in description.💯🍻
can you fit 2 36v batterys in there
Definitely💯🍻
How fast does it go?
Stock 24v motor overvolted to 36v with a 36v Lipo gets you about 22mph. But can be geared up also, by changing the rear sprocket to a 65t. Gets you another 5MPH. 27mph. Not bad at all. A 36v 1000w with a 36v 1000w controller, Lipo & 65t in rsf350 gets 29mph. To give you an idea. Overvolting is AWESOME!💯🙏🍻
What the run time and battery time
**charging time
The battery last forever it seems. Especially once I did the 48v upgrade. czcams.com/video/vrHuegzRIf8/video.html The BTR Power batteries are the real deal. But for real, we go for HOURS. Usually don’t charge for 2-3 days most times. 3-5 hour charge time. I suggest going str8 to the 48v upgrade.
is it safe to overvolt it?
Yeah. I’ve been OverVolting these brushed motors for awhile now. SOLID.
How fast?
About 20mph I believe.
What if I use a car battery
Not sure you’d want to. The weight alone would slow you up. I’d get rid of the lead acid batteries all together and scoop up a lithium battery. You won’t want to go back to lead acid ever again.💯🙏🍻
Link
The adapter please. For battery.
What’s up Man. When you buy a fast scooters kit and a BTR Power battery, you have to install an Xt60 female to the controller to receive the male xt60 that comes on the BTR power battery. You can cut the battery wires and solder one on or have someone solder it for you. If you truly don’t know how to solder and just want to do it on your own, you can use butt splices. Which is you cut the battery wires, butt splice it, and butt splice the other end to that extra wire BTR power supplies you with. Butt splicing, if you don’t know, you crimp the wire with splice and same to other side and then melt the ends. With these lower powered rigs, it’s fine, but of course soldering is best choice.
@@KruseNStuff is itself explanatory with a couple videos on soldering tutorials ? I mean plug in and play is so easy , I’m sure I’ll figure it out! So I’m confused , have you tried the CAOMM battery? “Blue”. Though I already bought the battery in
Your video ; just confused with the F & F connector you stated ?
@@KruseNStuff so can’t you just solder the ends that comes with the battery to the fast scooter wires ?
Yeah you could but you won’t be able to change the battery in the future and void any battery warranties
I found soldering an xt60 female to the controller is easiest & best way.
Pretty cool upgrade though the flipflops scare me OUCH!
Thanks Man. AGREE.🙏💯🍻
what’s the name top speed?
I believe it was around 22mph or so w/ stock gearing. But it can be geared up substantially and get in the 30s💯🍻
@@KruseNStuffhow do i make it go 30
@@feoyz5267 with stock motor, I’d grab a 36v fast scooters kit. Ask for the 1000w otherwise it will come 500w. Then gear up both the motor sprocket and rear sprocket. I’d go to a 15t motor sprocket with a 65t rear sprocket. You will hit 30+ easy for pretty cheap. The kit is $60 and a 36v 10ah battery that we use is about $189 these days. Not bad for only $250 upgrade.💯🍻
@@KruseNStuffok but what type of chain # would i use ?
@@feoyz5267 a #25 is fine
How are you ☺️ WOW beautiful 😍❤️ very nice 💞💞 excellent 💗💝😊
APPRECIATE IT💯🍻
How much for all that?
The OverVolt kit is $60 & the lithium battery is $140. But if you still have your 2 stock 12v lead acid batteries, you could just add 1 more 12v battery to make 36v. I suggest just switching to lithium though.💯🙏🍻
The batteries you suggested are currently out of stock. Would I get away with a different lithium? 36v
How much would you do this for me for
What’s up bro. You can probably do it yourself. What are you trying to do? Trying to OverVolt your stock 24v mx350 to 36v?
😀 yay
AWESOME. Sweet Ride Lo💯🍻
Do you think a 145lbs teenager can ride this ?
Yes 100%🍻
Cool because on the website it says 140lbs max so I was sceptic a bit
Dude im 185 and ride my kids one 😂😂
Yes as long as they’re not taller than 5.8 feet
I’m 5’11” and ride it fine. You can make it work.
Does it even hit 17mph doesn’t look like it. Looks slow.
Yeah about 20mph. It blows stock setup out of the water. In person it’s noticeable. But with that said, I just dropped a 36v 800w motor in and a 48v 1000w controller/twist throttle. Should get more bottom end torque/acceleration and top end. 25mph or so. The acceleration leaves a little to be desired especially for an adult rider. So I’d go right to the 36v motor and OverVolt it if you plan on an adult rider. Should have the 48v battery by the end of the week. I’ll end it with this, for the $60 I spent on the controller and throttle for OverVolting stock motor, it was WAY WORTH IT. My sons LOVE IT.💯💯
czcams.com/video/Hk9Sm90T3pc/video.html
@@KruseNStuff You ain't gotta explain yourself to expert. Looks great and yes for an adult that would leave a little to be desired. But for kids and young teens, the slower the safer. I wouldn't dare put a kid on my 48v 1800w pocket mod. Not without disabling 2nd and 3rd speeds, which are about the same lol
@@scotmaciver Agree. No explanation needed. Been Rockin’ the new setup with the 36v 800w/ 48v 1000w controller/48v Battery. AWESOME. My youngest didn’t like to get on it at first Bc of the torque. My oldest hopped on and rode it like a bull. Lol. Already put a 14t sprocket on. Noticed a slight loss in that torque. So I’m assuming we will have more top end. I’ll get a mph reading up with it, then try the 15t sprocket I just received. ALWAYS APPRECIATE A POSITIVE Comment. Have a good one.💯🍻
@@KruseNStuff got a 15t that should be here any day. I just upped to a t8f chain and 54/11. I lost a very tiny bit of low end, top end stayed the same basically. Like you though, when I put this 15 on I expect more top end. I'll see if I like it and if not go back to the 11. I know the 25H chain with 80/9 was greased lightening lol....
I'm thinking about getting one for my 8 year old, and maybe modding it later. How old is your kid here?
He just turned 11 in this video. We’ve had the bike for awhile though. Since 2020. I still can ride it if I want to. I’m 36. To give you an idea.💯🍻
@@KruseNStuff Cool. Thanks, man.
Got it for my son when he was 7, about to upgrade it since I found this video :). Bought him a mini bike, but jesus it was SO SMALL. So sent it back... back to mx350 upgrade :)