Karla Homolka | Mental Health & Personality
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- This video answers the question: Can I analyze mental health and personality factors that may be at work in the case of the Karla Homolka case? Karla along with a man named Paul Bernardo are serial killers who were known as “Barbie and Ken Killers.”
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The fact she's walking free and has given birth to 3 children by her lawyer's brother.. no word can describe how f*cked that is.
how are they free today?! statue of limitations??! they attacked children and teens! and murdered them! Atty's!!
Definitely, she deserves the same sentence as Paul, it's a shame that they let a child killer/rapist free
@@405OKCShiningOn she is free, Bernardo will *never* be free. I don't think any other crimes by either of them have come to light since their trials, so statute of limitations doesn't apply here. Her lighter sentence is because she agreed to full disclosure of Bernardo's activities in exchange for having some of the charges against her dropped. I don't agree with her light sentence, it's very controversial, just trying to explain why she's out now.
@E. R. It's actually quite disturbing that people can upvote a comment that is so uninformed.
Maybe you could elaborate? I don't expect much from you though , you'd really have to be quite stupid/ignorant to make such an anemic comment... I'll try to educate you about this subject.
Believe it or not , the Peel/York regional police/DOJ don't represent the entire country of Canada , or even the province of Ontario for that matter. Nor would that be the case in any other country.
I'm sure that you're quite proud of your ignorance/stupidity, but for f**k sake please read a god damn book or something dude , and grow the hell up.
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JSYK , I was able to see your reply notification before you decided to delete your disgusting comment.
Your parents would probably be ashamed of you. I can't imagine the horror of realizing that they raised a hateful little creep.
All you've done is further confirm how ignorant and stupid you truly are.😥
Polly the cops thought she was a victim at that point. They only got more evidence after the deal. That’s why it’s infuriating.
A few years ago heard that her kids were in a primary school in Montreal not far from where I lived then. A parent had recognized her and complained to the school administration about her volunteering in activities involving other children. It seems he was told that if he was not happy about it that he could just remove his kids from the school. Instead he told the media about it and she was promptly removed as a volunteer
I'M glad he did
Good for him!!!
Her new last name was Teale (like Bernardo did I think it has to do with a movie). So even after prison she kept a connection with Paul.
@@laulau1839 thats just sick.doesnt sound like she got mental help??
Renata Warec She is beyond that she was too busy becoming fluent in French and getting a law degree all on the taxpayers dime
The most shocking part to me, is that her parents never blamed her and supported her.
She drugged, raped and killed their youngest daughter... Her own sister!! It just boggles my mind.
Ik, r!? Insane creepy families, the both of them..and what kind of coroner would rule Tammy’s death a natural death?
I can’t wrap my brain around this.
Oh she probably manipulated her parents into believing she was a victim too. You know how manipulative narcissists can be. And how gullible a lot of parents are.
I believe she actually manipulated her parents into believing that Paul abused her, too... for example, she once showed up in public with a "bruised eye", which had magically disappeared by the next time she went out... somehow? 🙃
@Pop-Actor (RICK) "accidental"... as in they accidentally killed her after drugging and raping her. The death wouldn't have occurred had Karla not "gifted" her own sister to her husband. 6 of 1...
The assault on Tammy was all Karla’s idea. She did this as a gift to Paul. She was deeply jealous of Tammy and Paul’s attraction to her and thought if she controlled the situation she would not loose Paul. Karla is no victim.
Karla's motive for this was that she wasn't a virgin when she and Paul were married. Karla Homolka is the definition of evil and Satan looks to her for advice.
Totally agree 👍
No Paul said “she doesn’t even have to know” and she was forced to lick her own sister then he slapped her when she wouldn’t
I just can't imagine this like she is really sick mentally and should have rotten in prison. I cried when I saw the documentary. Id do anything for my sisters. Tammy was the victim
@@badgirlhollywood9741I have to disagree. As a Canadian who experienced the news and fear and outrage Karla did not just do what he wanted her to do. She did it because she too is evil. She never should have gotten out of prison and he should never have been able to move to a less secure facility.
Don’t believe me? Research ‘A deal with the Devil Karla Homolka’
Imagine being that woman's kids who are going to find out at some stage what their monster of a mother did.
I would of rather being aborted.
She'll down play every single thing
Every Canadian adult remembers this monster. She got off waaaaay too easy. Blamed it all on Bernardo.
I'm American, but I remember it, too. Miscarriage of justice, but it happens.
No matter how bad you _think_ Karla was, I can 100% guarantee you that Paul was far worse.
@@DJones476 I beg to differ…for her to be female and be able to do that to other females and especially her sister!? Think again, bro…
@TheReaper74 _"Wish me a Merry Christmas!"_
_"Good. Now, wish 'Snuffles' a Merry Christmas!"_
-Paul Bernardo AKA The Scarborough Rapist
And hid the video tape until she got the deal of the century
A couple of points to also consider are 1) Karla is the one who lured the victims into the car with Bernardo in the car and 2) Karla struck a deal with the crown for 12 years prior to the finding of the videotapes showing her enjoying and directing parts of the assaults. The deal with the devil had been made and could not be reversed.
Darrenj H; The deal relied on full disclosure. The tapes showed an assault on “Jane Doe” which Karla did not mention. The prosecution could then have dropped Karla’s deal easily due to lack of full disclosure. They didn’t.
Good points.
She lured the 2nd victim not the first. You people need to get facts straight. And she didnt kill until she met him, however he was brutally raping women before her
@@aprilsilvers381 Please don't tell me you are blaming him for everything as though she has zero responsibility for her actions? Imo, she is just as guilty as he. A decent person would have turned him into the police.
@@Dentropolis Not only that, but she did not disclose that there were any tapes at all and she knew about them and where they were hidden. That alone negates the deal !!! (NOT FULL DISCLOSURE!!)
I see what you're saying but for me her allowing Paul and helping him to do the terrible things to her sister, I think they are both evil in different ways as you said. But I think she liked it, I think she's a master manipulator.
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Totally agree. From what I read in a book she exhibited cruel behaviour when she was a kid.
Yeah I think they're both equally evil so when they got together it just brought it the worst in them. Literally. Like killing someone isn't bad enough all the other things they did 🤢
@@jennj2049 I agree. Paul never killed anybody until he got with Tammy. They're both evil.
She’s probably worse than he is. Male serial killers are driven by sex and power they’re deviant, while women like Karla are even more sinister in my opinion. She motivated him to commit murders, and lured the teen girls in. She did this even to her own blood sister. The fact that a woman could do this to fellow girls, is unbelievable. To me, this woman is pure evil. Psychopath through and through.
I can’t believe she is out as a free woman. Absolutely terrifying that she has a family too.
Yeah it is chilling, but there's no evidence that she's re-offended.
@Nom De Plume she's only got three kids apparently, but it wouldn't surprise me if she did indeed end up with another abusive partner after Bernardo.
Latest info I could find, from this year, is that she lives alone without either her husband or her children.
Polly that’s not the point. She should’ve gotten life.
Nom De Plume that’s false. Can’t believe everything you read especially not off of Wikipedia
I feel so sorry for her children. Even if she isn’t a bad mom, they will definitely find out about what she did and it will cause them a lot of anguish.
At one point it was even reported that she was volunteering at her kid's school in Quebec. How she passed the criminal records check is beyond me.
Ashley H That is horrific to think she has access to children🤮
Holy fuck pardon my language
If I recall correctly, she changed her name after her release, moved to a completely different jurisdiction, and didn’t write previous dwellings/names as required. Both things indicate which databases to look at. I could be remembering wrong and she didn’t have to get a criminal record check done. I know my dad didn’t need to in order to help with school field trips, but I also haven’t had a parent in my family chaperone a field trip since...2001 I think? So I’m very sure the rules have changed since then.
She must’ve used her new name ..... Her new name has no history .I live in Montreal and I volunteer at my kids school and they do strict background checks. She knows she’s not supposed to volunteer because of her past and yet she does anyway. When the media finds out she plays victim and says they’re harassing her .🤦🏼♀️
they didnt even check. lol, she was PROTECTED BY STUPID CANADIAN GOVERMENT, SHE WAS EVEN THREATENING THE MEDIA lol. I live in Canada, our justice system is a joke. They give child molesters a slap on the wrist and then a job as camp counsellor after their two week holiday at club fed.
She is just if not more disgusting than Paul..."facilitating" her own sister for Paul's deviant needs and when he wasn't satisfied getting a new girl that actually fit what he wanted...
She shouldn't be out and about.
Everything she said was a calculated idea to get that sweet, sweet deal she got.
Yep, the fact that he beat her shows that he detested her because she was just. like. him. Evil, disgusting, barely human and not worthy of forgiveness. Had they not been caught, many other young innocent girls would have been also tortured and brutally murdered.
She not only Facilitated she sexually molested her own sister as well. I'm sure she minimized it by assuming the girl was passed out wouldn't know a thing when she woke up she never woke up.
And after her own sister died, Karla didn’t stop kidnapping, raping and killing other little girls. What a piece of work. She should’ve gotten the same jail time as her boyfriend.
There’s no mention here of Karla throwing her friends pet hamster out of a 2 story building which resulted in its death in her early teens, her callous bullying of others and her dominant/bossy personality with her peers. The letter she wrote from prison mocking her father for still grieving the lose of his daughter (the one she killed) implying he was a loser for moping around about it AND complained he never gave her enough money for her wedding was shocking.
Unbelievable This creature was worse than Casey Anthony
I really wonder if she was abused as a child in the home. Who knows for sure. Some signs of something going array.
No. I don't think her family abused her at all. There were no signs there to suggest that. On top of that, her friends said she was confident, dominant and never a follower but a leader. If you're being abused, you wouldn't be like that. It would be the opposite.
@@daniellelawman9724 I think she was neglected for sure. Had they any clues about what she was up to? Neglect is abuse in my eyes.
Absolute psychopath!
Dr Grande, are you ever tempted to say, “whelp, kids, I got nothing. Some people are just evil”?
lol....but EVIL is not really a psychological diagnosis. Maybe they did evil DEEDS.
I'm mystified with this "whelp" stuff. Do you know what a "whelp" is?
@@JSkyGemini it’s just a colloquialism. There’s no need to be condescending.
@@JSkyGemini boooo
@@imajeepster The Devil Made Me Do it- possession should be a diagnosis. Not to say they are innocent, that's just the reason.
Great video. I live in Canada and this case still gives me "the willies." I have mixed feelings about capital punishment, however, this case is the best argument that I can think of in favor of the death penalty.
What about Clifford Olsen Jr!
@@wdadwawdadawdwdwa4133 The best example of why the death penalty should exist.
@@blanewilliams5960 How about better parenting. Killing her ..lets learn from all of this.
Dr. Grande, your ability to modulate your voice, whether delivering sickening details of horrific crimes or cracking jokes as dry as an Egyptian mummy, is truly masterful.
I grew up in St. Catharines. It was so horrifying. They grabbed Kristen when she was walking home from school. In broad daylight. A friend of mine was fishing at Lake Gibson and hooked a body part that was encased in concrete. I believe the house they lived in Port Dalhousie was later bulldozed to the ground. They were both seriously evil
I live an hour away. I met a girl a few years ago and she told me Kristen use to babysit her when she was younger. This girl was so traumatized, she ended up becoming a psychotherapist and is working on her doctorate in psychology.
@Quiche Lorraine I'm not really into violins, but thanks for the offer.
Yeah the house was bulldozed in Port Dalhousie, but honestly that land is cursed. Who would live there knowing that Leslie and Kristen still roam there is beyond me.
I lived in St. Kitts till the age of 12, when I moved to Toronto. My parents continued to live on Lakeport Road, and you could see the house Bernardo and Homolka did their murders in, from their backyard. And yes, the place was demolished.
Off topic, I can't tell you how many times I'd be woken up by the rowers training for the Henley Regatta, as they yelled through their bullhorns at 6:00am. My bedroom faced the lake. I also remember people who'd get drunk at the pub at the corner of Lake and Ontario Streets, get in their cars and go sailing right off into the Port Dalhousie lock, missing the curve just before the bridge. The current is so strong there, most of them didn't survive as their vehicles would be sucked right under.
I was going to Brock University when this happened. I am haunted by it. Karla is the one that approached Kristen.
Thank you for your analysis Dr Grande.❤️
I watched this case play out in real time and it was very disturbing.
Many of us Canadians were saddened that Holmolka received such a Sweetheart deal from the prosecution....then proceed to have children of her own and live a 'normal' life.
Holmolka was happy to cut her losses with Bernardo and move on to the next chapter in her life....no remorse, no empathy. NEXT.....
And "real time" in Canada was many, many years. The disappearances of the teenage girls were long-unsolved mysteries at the time. Before that, we watched in horror as a serial attacker (the "Scarborough rapist") was at-large but never caught. Years later, it turned out to have been Homolka's husband, Paul Bernardo. Also, a young Scarborough woman (Elizabeth Bains) went missing, and we all watched as her former boyfriend was convicted and imprisoned. Decades later, DNA evidence connected her death to Bernardo. This couple's crimes have left a long, deep scar on Canadians.
Arv Vee I was going to mention Elizabeth Bains...but I don’t think Bernardo was officially charged, maybe insufficient evidence. I’ve always suspected him though.
@@samhain1894Yes, that's true about the Elizabeth Bains case. It's a strong suspicion but not tried/ proven in court.
"A deal with the devil" is exactly what the authorities made when they made a plea deal with Karla Homolka. She actively obtained the anaesthetic to use on the victims, lured victims into the car where Bernardo waited, and in videotapes found after the plea deal she made she's seen enjoying and directing parts of the assaults. The judge could have overridden the deal she made. It's a pity she wasn't also given life like Bernado.
Is it considered offensive I'm writting a suspenseful thriller inspired by Homolka's case focused after prison life?
Maybe she's was afraid of him if she didn't do those things? Abused woman.
@@canadavatar How many times are u going to post the same shite???‽
I call the plea bargain in the case of Chris Watts here in the United States our own "Deal with the Devil." Chris Watts is just as evil if not more so than Karla Homolka. I have said that Karla is so evil Satan looks to her for advice.
The material on the video tape shown in court revealed Karla's extremely sadistic and psychopathic personality. She gave her husband instructions as he raped Tammy. What a waste of breath on our poor planet. And now she's free to raise her own family. She received a twelve year sentence, while Paul was sentenced to life without parole. Sickening, and just another example of institutionalized sexism. She received psychotherapy in prison, as well. And now she's free as a bird, raising her own family. Something her sister and the other victims never got a chance to do.
The tapes showing how reprehensible her actions were didn’t come to light til after Karla had an immunity deal to testify against Paul. It was too late by then, they wanted to charge her with more but couldn’t because of the deal.
Please find out the facts before you jump to sexism.
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There's no such thing as life without parole in Canada
@@jimbo1959 is a life sentence like 25 or 30 years before parole eligibility? Even if someone gets life with possibility of parole, can the parole board just continually deny someone parole if they’re dangerous?
@@nachtegaelw5389 I know the fucking facts. The fact that SHE GOT A DEAL from the Crown in return for her testimony is all the evidence one needs. Paul Bernadro was NOT offered any sort of deal, but remains behnd bars, where he shpuld be. However, Ms. Sex Freak should have rec'd the EXACT SAME SENTENCE--NO IMMUNITY, and I don't care how many times Paul beat her. She should have left him the second she discovered his background, called the autorities and had him arrested. She didn't do so, but instead became turned on by what he'd one. The facts of the matter are plain: she was given a lighter sentence because she was a so-called battered woman. Actual battered women should be morally OUTRAGED by this series of crimes, and I'm certain most are. Karla Pigmolka belongs in solitary confinemernt for the rest of her days. So don't start with me on institutionalized sexism. One sees it in the American judiciary every single day. Until men and women are treated EXACTLY the same way, with EXACTLY EQUAL sentences for EXACTLY EQUAL CRIMES,, the only word that applies is sexism.
In every picture Ive seen of her she has dead-eyes. Even when she's smiling it doesn't seem to reach that far on her face, like she's wearing a mask.
Is it considered offensive I'm writting a suspenseful thriller inspired by Homolka's case focused after prison life?
I saw as well a documentary where it was stated that as a child she hurt animals. I remember they said she threw a dog off a balcony and laughed at it. So I believe that although she wasn't dominant she had a tendency.
😲 Horrible inclination
I never knew that about her!!! So crazy. She started working at a veterinarian clinic at the age of 17. She met Paul from attending an animal convention through her work. Makes me wonder if she worked there to hurt animals. Wouldn't surprise me. Any woman who would actively help anyone rape and torture young girls is sick in the head and shouldn't be around children or animals.
That’s incorrect. There was a story that she had thrown a hamster out of a window with a friend, but that was never confirmed.
A sure sign of psychopathy IMO. She must have scammed the Hare Psychopathy Checklist Test. She should have been given numerous tests by a seasoned professional to double check on her surprising score on the Psychopathy Checklist. Does anyone know what other tests she was given and the reputation of the tester? She conned a LOT of people.
To throw dogs from balconies isn't a sign of dominance - it's a sign of sadism.
Karla famously had no compassion for her father’s suffering and grief during the planning of her wedding to Paul. She complained to a friend that he was moping around while she wanted to have fun. The reason she got the sweetheart deal was because her lawyer had the video evidence which would have been enough to convict both without her testimony. I lived in Ontario during this time and the entire province was horrified and felt the effects for years. I don’t want to say traumatized, but it was close.
Quiche Lorraine hadn’t heard that.
I was going to College in Welland, roughly twenty minutes away from St. Catharines, when Kristen French went missing. When I moved to St. Catharines I lived not far from Port Dalhousie where Paul and Karla were living. I saw the plot where their house once stood. I was approached by a woman who said that she was a reporter and asked me questions about the case mentioning that people were still upset over it.
And Karla was angry with her father that he was so grief stricken, he wanted to tone down her wedding instead of it being such a big show. She was livid.
Is it considered offensive I'm writting a suspenseful thriller inspired by Homolka's case focused after prison life?
@@citrusgirl11 I don't understand why they didn't disown her after her actions came out.
The problem with the Hare psychopathy checklist is that it seems to be geared toward secondary psychopathy, violent criminals, and males. This would not apply to someone like Karla Homolka who is female, was not violent(although she was certainly a criminal), and leaned more toward primary psychopathy. It would also underrate a lot of corporate psychopaths. Even then, the 5/40 score she was given for the checklist was too damn low. She clearly shows a shallow affect, promiscuity, superficial charm, lack of empathy, lack of remorse, manipulativeness, and need for stimulation just to name some items on the list. Watching videos of her speaking and reading up on her life will make this very obvious. These are the fundamental hallmarks of psychopathy and it makes no difference is someone has a consistent history or criminal behavior or not, they are STILL a psychopath.
I agree a hundred percent. It is not a hard/exact science, which is why there can only be generalizations (although I'm fascinated by how spot on the forensic profilers can be). It definitely doesn't take into account the outliers and exceptions, like how 2 people who would not normally murder on their own, can become murderers together bc of the psycho synergy they have. Fascinating but scary AF for a normal person who could never imagine killing innocent strangers.
How does someone like this get out prison EVER?!
fran mellor, she’s beautiful & looks innocent & that helps a lot. : (
@@CarolCattle you think??!
Because she promised full disclosure and testimony against Bernardo in return for reduced charges.
By turning evidence for the state. The game of Prisoner's Dilemma.
@@coweatsman she cooperated with the Crown attorney and entered a plea deal.
I was nearly abducted by Paul Bernardo in 1988 when I lived in Scarborough. Weirdly enough, I went to college with a guy who had a run in with them in St Catherines around the time they murdered Kristen French--He was 12 at the time and they already had a reputation for stalking kids. I also worked with a person who went to high school with her and she told me that Karla was deep into gothic stuff and was really into dark magic to the point it creeped out other people in the goth scene. She did a 360 in her look and personality when she met Paul becoming more preppy and he seemed to be a better influence on her.
I do not believe her 'submissive' defence. I think Karla is a person who is a highly manipulative, cruel chameleon and is very much a psychopath who came armed against a rather subjective test. She did not reveal there were tapes and her lawyer hid knowledge of them until she got her plea deal. She dressed up in what looked like Kristen French's high school uniform while doing the walk through and commented without emotion that her sister wanted a rug (?) and could they give it to her.
I sincerely believe that both she and Paul Bernardo went gleefully on hunting expiditions as a kind of twisted side hustle to make their relationship dangerous and exciting. I think she was thrilled to be a part of it, and got as much of a charge as he did. She should be in jail for life. How she lives now is meaningless--she has just learned to manipulate those close to her to her advantage. The fact she married her lawyer's brother has to be yet another red flag, she's just that good at twisting things into her favour.
She also studied psychology and I believe she has a degree in it now. She's really honed her manipulative skills into pure mastery. She still plays the victim every time she is exposed--She makes me sick.
That's terrifying that you were nearly abducted by him, especially now that the Elizabeth Blaine murder in Scarborough has been seen as likely him/them.
It was actually Tammy's uniform and Karla explained to the investigators that Tammy was interested in a book Karla had.
@@MichaelLovely-mr6oh That's even more sickening. What a monster!
@@pinkbagels1 Karla is so evil Satan looks to her for advice.
@@lasmith07 Hopefully there will be some DNA evidence tying Paul Bernardo and/or Karla Homolka to the murder of Elizabeth Blaine.
This guy did not read her entire case file. KH is no victim; she's just plain evil.
maggie bridget I agree. Normally Dr Grande is pretty thorough but he missed the mark on this one. KH is a vile excuse for a human being. They made Kristin eat hair along with all the other sexually depraved acts. Sick just sick _ both of them.
@@alijane6675 Exactly. Also people fail to understand how victims can be offenders and vice versa. I'd venture to say most "evil" murderers had less than ideal formative years. It doesn't justify the heinous crimes but from a psychological standpoint it's always important to have context. Ofc Karla was a victim of dv. Goes without saying. People are only denying that because they hate her which I understand, I hate her too, but it doesn't change the facts.
He did miss some things in the video. The story of how they met, Paul’s fractured life as a child, the other victims (Jane Doe’s) that they attacked and lured to the house, the story of Paul killing her pet iguana and eating it, the fact that he was the scarborough rapist and never killed prior to karla etcetcetc
He did the same thing with Jodi Arias. Grande is a joke.
Is it considered offensive I'm writting a suspenseful thriller inspired by Homolka's case focused after prison life?
Another case even closer to home (Ontario Canada 🇨🇦) i find it very hard to believe she was a victim, especially because of the fact she appeared to enjoy what she was doing in the video. I feel like she would have done whatever he wanted her to do to make him happy.
agree she is so creepy
She was as bad as him, or at least pretty close. Deal with the devil is the right term.
V many professionals working on the case believe she was actually worse or much the same.
@@sydramars7065 I don't doubt it.
I always believed she was worse. As Paul stated before he met Karla none of his victims died.
She did this to her baby sister. It takes someone particularly evil to do that.
Is it considered offensive I'm writting a suspenseful thriller inspired by Homolka's case focused after prison life?
I’m so disgusted that she is free with kids.
I've read and researched this case extensively. While I cannot comment on Karla''s mental health diagnosis, I do know that she was as culpable as Paul. 12 years of imprisonment for Karla was a travesty of justice.
Karla spoke to Paul about how she couldn't wait to have children with him, so that they could assault their kids together. Thankfully, they never had children with one another.
Also, it is unknown who actually killed Kristen and Leslie. Was it Paul or Karla? They each pointed the finger at one another.
Karla was very much involved in the assaults, as was later shown by the withheld video tapes of those assaults
She was involved in the drugging, assault, and death of her own little sister!
Then she volunteered at her childrens' schools after she was released from prison, even though that was a clear violation of her probation.
Kara's childhood friends admitted she was strong willed and bossy. She was an equal partner of Paul's, not his subordinate.
Some people are born soulless and evil; Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka are two of those people.
Yep the fact she married the lawyers brother says to me he knew exactly what happened and how guilty she was thus he held the tapes for a year after the plea deal.. anyone of those statements she made on tape would have children services banging your door down for life. What kind of man marries a monster like that? Wonder if she offered her own kids up to her new hubby..she seems so willing in those tapes to get off on it.
@@simking01 Her hubby obviously got off on her and her evil shite! Sick sick sick the whole lot of them. God Bless those children. They will be traumatized when they hear their father made kids with her.
One of my old
Coworkers ran into Paul before he was all
Over the news. She was walking home from work and said that he pulled over asking where a major street was. After she told him where it was he pretended to take off his seatbelt and said wanna come with me? She said no and he drove off. She said she thought he was handsome but she felt a feeling of dread when she looked at him.
Good for you for saying no.
Karla Homolka is as evil as they come. To insinuate she picked it up from Paul Bernardo is ridiculous. Any sane person would've gone straight to the police once they knew their partner was evil like Bernardo, not join them in their crimes killing innocent people. There's no letting her off the hook, and she should be in jail right now.
8:30 Carla did not turn over the videos to police. Police searched the house and could not find them. Paul told his lawyer where to find them, and the lawyer held onto them. The deal with the devil was made BEFORE anyone else knew about the tapes. If the crown had access to them before the deal, they would not have needed Carla’s testimony; they would not have needed to cut a deal, and Carla would potentially be serving life based on the evidence in the videos.
Dr. Grande,
You make that shade of blue look as good as your voice and honest narration make inhumane atrocities sound.
Been waiting for this. Happened in our area. Mind blowing crimes. Thank you for this Dr Grande.
Canada has a crappy legal system she’s a murderer and a serial rapist
Grande doesn't touch on the fact that Bernardo was "The Scarborough Rapist" who had been violently raping dozens of women and telling Homolka about it for years before the Deaths of Tammy, Kristin and Leslie. From the very beginning she got off on, and encouraged, Bernardo's crimes indicating her own sadism.
Hi Dr @Todd Grande. I was hoping you could do an analysis of the three women in recent years who have been outed for race faking. In which they live lives as black women but are actually Caucasian. I would love to hear your take on the psychology behind this.
@Nom De Plume watch 'the Rachel divide'
Nom De Plume the three I know of who are prominent are:
Satchuel Cole
Jessica Krug
Rachel Dolezal
Sarah I saw that. It made me hate her more. It was so obviously trying to make us like her. But how she was with her son 😡. He was embarrassed, and tired of it and she wouldn’t stop.
I'm hoping he covers these too! But I know of only 2...
These women want to partake in the Black Privilege that exists today in the West.
isn’t weird that none of Paul’s victims were killed until Karla came into the picture, she definitely murdered all of those girls out of jealousy and spite
This is a key fact he never murdered any of the rape victims until he was married to Karla...She was the manipulative factor in those poor girls demise..
This is a key fact he never murdered any of the rape victims until he was married to Karla...She was the manipulative factor in those poor girls demise..
This case is particularly meaningful to me. I was in Gr 6 when the police came to my family home with an early composite sketch of Bernardo, when he was the Scarborough Rapist, to warn residents of his presence. Then, after the couple were imprisoned, I was in my uni residence cross the street from where Bernardo was in the pen. My cousin went to school with Kristen French in St. Catherine's. This entire saga lasted the better part of my youth, and everything about the case still makes me viscerally sick.
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That sketch was everywhere in the GTA. I had a neighbour who looked exactly like the sketch. He beat his girlfriend and was just an unsavoury character with a previous record. I really thought it was him, so I called the police and reported it. I'm not the nosy type, but if I have good reason to suspect the person may be involved, I will call.
Bus drivers were letting young women exit the bus at night away from the bus stops so they could be closer to their homes and away from the bus stops where these wome were being followed from.
My partner is much more into "tough love" than I am, and a big part of why I can't get behind it (even as the parent of a rebellious teen) is Lesley Mahaffey. I learned about her in a criminal psych class many years before I had kids, and I've never been able to forget the horror that she and her parents must've suffered. All because of her poor parents' innocent, well-intentioned desire to teach her via tough love tactics.
When I think of how her parents must feel about the fact that it was their tough love (locking her out because she'd missed her curfew) which resulted in her torture and murder...I just can't even imagine the hell those poor people must be living in. As a parent myself, my heart goes out to them so, so much.
And, because of them and their horrific experience, I just can't ever contemplate doing anything like locking my kids out to teach them a lesson. You just never, ever can know when or where monsters in human form (like Bernardo and Homolka) might be on the hunt. If my own actions EVER put my beloved, precious kids in the way of monsters like them? Well, I literally can't even think about it.
Oh, and FWIW, I think that the idea of Karla being free and having access to children is terrifying beyond belief. I simply cannot comprehend the possibility that she was just a helpless victim of Paul. Unlike the wives/partners of Ridgway, Rader, Bundy, etc., I don't think for one minute that she didn't know what he intended, or that she wasn't a full, willing and enthusiastic participant in their crimes.
I do, however, feel tremendous pity for her children. For me, the fact that she deliberately had children, despite knowing what they'd be subjected to, is just one more example of her utterly callous, greedy, selfish and narcissistic character. They never asked for a despised monster as a mother, and never got a choice...just like all her other victims.
Thank you for bringing up the "tough love" tactic that one of the victims was experiencing. I am now middle aged but also experienced this growing up. The parent who did this committed suicide when I was in my 20s. Looking back, no one seemed interested in why children like myself did not want to be at home.
Yep. Like why lock anyone outside cause they were late?__teach a lesson ? its a stupid idea and innocent child ended up being tortured and murdered for it.
3 children after murdering 3_. Sadistic sack of shi
This case is sickening & Karla should've gotten a life sentence. BUT i love the topics & breakdown of subject matter covered by Dr. Grande. HE is awesome!
Yes he is! I have a deep mostly platonic love for him.
Is it considered offensive I'm writting a suspenseful thriller inspired by Homolka's case focused after prison life?
You sir, are phenomenal for your consistency,much appreciation to you Dr. Grande. ♡♡♡Thank you for your speculations on Karla .
Most of Canada thinks she should have been convicted with the same sentence as Paul B . Had the police done a proper search they wouldn’t have needed her help
I have to say how much I appreciate the fact that you do not repeatedly say the type of assault it is when it is the type that was committed by this couple. Thank you!
As a 20something Canadian, I heard vaguely about this case all my life it seems. What always struck me was her vacant, dead look in the interviews she gave to media sometimes (I guess after the trial). Like she was heavily drugged or in pain, but it might have been a last try at "playing the victim" for her reputation. I really liked your analysis in general and especially the explanation of why a deal with her might have been important to make sure Paul never walked free again, although it's almost a consensus that her sentence wasn't enough.
Thank you for discussing this monster, very famous case up here in Canada. You go Dr Grande ❤❤
She was fully culpable to this crime, whether she was a victim of Paul, or not. Great observations, Dr. Grande.
Her last name is pronounced "Ha-Mole-Ka"...this was a big case in Canada
I wanted to say that too. Lol
@Nom De Plume I think it's Czech.
Don't be so strict to our doctor. 😊
Agree but she’s a POS so I didn’t care that he mispronounced it.
Yes, it is Czech.
Thank you for covering this case. I’ve had a lucid nightmare about Paul Bernardo. I wonder if you would consider doing a video on what you know about nightmares. Thank you!
He has a video from a few years back about nightmare disorder.
fucction oh thank you!
Suspicious Ned nightmare.
Is it considered offensive I'm writting a suspenseful thriller inspired by Homolka's case focused after prison life?
To many times Karla helped Bernardo to kill, even her own sister! There is no excuse for her at all. She was doing the crime and performing murders with him and enjoying it. She wasn't sad for what she did! Did she ever regret or pathological narcissist is playing a victim? I feel sorry for her kids living with that horrible stigma and fear.
JEEZ. it's very odd to hear about them from someone who is new to them. they are so important to Canada's psyche. they brought us to our knees with their evil.
Brought us to our knees? Hardly but they certainly horrified us
@@withgoddess8029 brought ME to my knees. I've never seen such evil in my life
@@doreenachtymichuk9973 Marc Lepine?
Uploading so much Dr. Grande!! 😊 Loving your insight on these cases!
About that low score on the psychopathy checklist: is this perhaps another case (like Asperger's) where the test was built for men and just doesn't catch women?
I was just thinking this! Surely psychopath women will be different.
I agree, she should have been in prison for at least 25 years. I think she gamed the system and got away with murder. What she went through/participated in was evil. In no way should have been allowed to become a mother!
The crown let her game it. They could’ve made her plea deal conditional, the morons.
She has a 132 IQ.
Dr. Grande, thank you for the video.
I respectfully disagree with you in this one. I think that Karla was way more manipulative than the way she was portrayed by you in this video. She enjoyed what they did together. She enjoyed the power she had over their victims. If she did not save Leslie or Kristen is because she did not want to. She had plenty opportunities to do so, run away from the house and go to the police.
She did not do any of that. She probably enjoyed the power she had over the victims as much as Paul did.
She also may have been jealous of them.
It also seems important to keep in mind that before he met Karla, Paul was a sadistic serial rapist, but he hadn't killed anyone yet.
So I don't know to what extent Karla's influence was not a catalyst for him, or the two together, to commit the murders.
Stephanie Harlowe did a very deep and interesting analysis on this case on her channel called "The Ken and Barbie Killers" consisting of three parts. I highly recommend taking a look at it.
I agree.
Oh yes!!! I did my Deviant Bx Final analysis on Karla and Paul. Excited to hear your take. Thanks again Dr. Grande!
Another great video Dr Grande. I would recommend you look into the case of the Yuba county 5. It is a very bizzare and unsolved case from the late 70s about a group of 5 men that disappeared into a national forest. All 5 of the men had either mild learning difficulties or mental health conditions, I believe one of the men had paronoid schizophrenia. The case has had new information come to light last year too. Its incredibly sad yet very bizzare and creepy and I would love to hear your thoughts on it.
Slow Tone Music / did they murder anyone?
Said "Hamolka" in 6 different ways and not one was right 😩😅 she doesn't deserve to have her name preserved in history anyway.
I find it hard to understand how she was under his control while they were both living with her family. For me that kills the theory that she was his victim too. She should is as bad as him and should still be in prison.
She was not living with her family when they killed Kristen & Lesley.
Portions of Bernardos police interview are freely available also. The guy is a straight up psyco, cool and manipulative as they come.
Cold as ice and very condescending. He was irate over the fact they (media and his police file) label him as a liar. That bothered him but being labelled a killerl is ok w him?! His sentence was WITHOUT POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE so why is he going to parole hearings? Those girls are dead. They got the death sentence. No renegotiation for them so why should he have such a luxury?
Thank-you Dr. Grande for such an insightful and deeply moving analysis. It is horrendous and to consider all the ramifications seems like an endless task. That her own sister was a victim suggests to me that there was very little love alive in Karla. Thank-you again!
Yeah!, Thank YOU for fulfilling mine and many others request for this video😊 Listening to your analysis completely changed my perspective on this tragic case.
Always grateful for the time and hard work you invest in each video (and every day) to educate and inform us❤
Canadian here! I’m glad you covered Karla. There are so many fascinating Canadian true crime cases. I’d love if you covered Jane Hurshman, Bangs Falls Nova Scotia.
Marie 666 he did the Collonel Williams if you haven’t seen it yet.
@@mrooz9065 that one was wicked horrible
I'm glad they got him he would have wiped out hundreds if he wasn't caught.
Would love to see your analysis of octomom
she has changed a lot over the years for the better. She isnt the person the media used to make her out to be. You can follow her on instagram @nataliesuleman
I'd love to see an analysis of someone who refers to a woman with a revoltingly dehumanizing term like "octomom" rather than use her name...probably a lot of deep seated insecurities and a desperate need to compensate by degrading others...
The Canadian justice system needs reform. On the one hand, we’re reluctant to put people in prison before trying community programs. But on the other, there’s not really such thing as a life sentence. The max people ever spend in prison is 20 years, and some people are too dangerous to be out in the public.
Fortunately, Paul Bernardo has been in prison longer than 20 years and will not be getting out.
Kay Hoover thank god for that.
The Mosque Bombers just got 75 years (life x3), and some people are designated ‘dangerous offenders’ , like Paul Bernardo, and will never get out.
I recall that Karla was given a reduced sentence because she cooperated with the police to convict Paul.
@@Cat_Lady all im thinking is theres no hope for someone like this.hes 100%evil
I don't thinks she's far behind. Probably even more so.
The *_reason_* Karla was given that Sweetheart Deal of 12 years was because she knew where the video tapes were hidden that the cops were seeking, but she'd only reveal the location if they gave her the deal, so that's how. They were hidden in the bathroom ceiling behind pot lights. Upon viewing the tapes, they saw Homolka was just as complicit & the victim of no one but she was rendered immune of all charges regarding revelations from the tapes because of the Sweetheart Deal that was alreadyinplace. ( She outsmarted the police & got off with a slap on the wrist)
How the hell do you lock your 14 year old daughter outside for missing curfew.. and now she's assaulted tortured and murdered, good job horrible parents. 🤦♀️
Even worse than that is the fact that Lesley's dad had absolutely no remorse for locking Lesley out of the house.
All that Tough Love bs that started in the 80’s.
I don’t think her parents realized that she was being thrown to the lion that night. Plus her friend who refused to help has got have some guilt over this, although it’s not her fault at all.
I remember this case well! Karla was not *that* submissive. As a teenager before she met Bernardo, she was known as a wild child, risk-taking and exhibited problem behaviour. She was difficult for her parents to control before she met Bernardo. Most of the "evidence" of her being an abused spouse was from her testimony, the only incident actually documented was with the flashlight. Maybe she was, maybe she wasn't. During the trial when discussing one of the victim's sexual inexperience, she was condescending about the 15 year old's lack of experience. None of these behaviours says submissive or abused spouse to me. She could not or did not express any empathy on the witness stand and deliberately withheld information form the police.
the fact that she is walking free... got married.. has 2 sons and a daughter.... Tammy her little sister died at her hands, Leslie died at her hands, Kristen died at her hands and Karla is walking free... Karla got married to her lawyer's brother????.. Karla has 3 children.. This is so messed up. I Pray her children never have to pay for her crimes with Paul.....
Karla has two sons and a daughter.
@@Muffynbear-bs7fh You are absolutely right , Karla has 2 sons and a daughter. I researched it a long time ago, I was sure my source had said 3 sons; I live near St Catharines and this very close to my heart, I made the corrections :) Thanks for pointing it out
Daniele M wait to her kids find out who Mommy Dearest is!
@@davidmackrell1289 I have been thinking the same thing for years now .. I wonder how she will explain the crimes to them.. of course she will have to come out like the innocent victim that she is not
It was a deal with the devil because when they finally got to see the tapes that had been made at the murder scenes she helped Paul in the sexual exploitation of those two young teenagers and actually looked like she was enjoying it!! The same thing she had picked out Jane Doe who was a friend at work & she helped drug & assaulted her & was even seen in the tape assaulting her own sister! She only gave up when she thought Paul was capable of killing her; after prison, married her attorney moved out of the country for a while but then moved back. the Canadians citizens are making it hell for her which I think is a good thing and I do honestly feel sorry for her children to think that they had a mother that was capable of committing those kind of crimes!!
Dr. Grande always pumping the videos out. Absolutely love it. Few videos I like to see are analysis of Don Draper, Chris Benoit, and Charles Starkweather
You just made all of your Canadian followers very happy! I've been waiting for this case.
Yay! You did it! Very fair assessment. While I struggle with the 12 year sentence, I do get your point around the need for an immediate prosecution of Paul.
One major downside to the short sentence IMO (aside from the injustice), is that she was able to have kids. Even if she manages to pull off life as a good soccer mom, her kids are going to have some heavy stigma to carry around. Also, I don’t think narcissists are fit for parenting, but that’s a separate issue ;).
Thanks for another great video! 👌
I wish people can understand that her kids are innocents and treat them correctly. I agree that theses kind of people aren't fit to have kids. And the biggest injustice is that she got to have a family to herself, her victims never had the chance to do.
I don't know if you would talk about historical figures, but I'll give it a shot.
Can we have a movie about Rasputin? Or did he become too much of a "mythical" person?
Ooh that would be interesting! He certainly isn't mythical.
Yes or Alistair Crowley!
Oh cool great idea! 👍🏻 💡 I would also like to see this!
Is it considered offensive I'm writting a suspenseful thriller inspired by Homolka's case focused after prison life?
I lived in St. Catharines when this happened. The "doctor" who performed the post-mortum on Karla's sister ruled an accidental death. I'll keep it short by stating she had a burn/mark FROM AN IRON. Before the murders, I was in need of a dr. Since he was my moms dr., I made an appt. All the way around his waiting room were camo hunting caps, a taxidermy example or two and several large quit smoking signs. The first thing he says w/o looking at me is "What's with all the tattoos?" I put my shirt back on and left.
Afterwards, when investigation started, he was the only dr. HEAVILY chastised. I believe the college of physicians reprimanded him, though I cannot clearly recall. The worst individual in the whole thing was the cops not searching a drop ceiling and Homolka's lawyer having video (found in the ceiling) and holding it for two weeks. Last I heard she's in Costa Rica or the Dominican with 3 kids fathered by her lawyer's brother. Her being taken out would be met with a ticker tape parade. My father lives virtually across from where Kristin French was snatched. The local police got a tip it was a cream coloured Camaro (a cream muscle car?) Must be all the retirees with bad vision. I will not say his name, but his gold 280Z was the car used. Lastly, in a video of her walking thru her house, she was asking the police what would happen to her furniture!!! I can't imagine the amount of people that would show at a parole hearing. It'd be '000s.
Karla Homolka initially lived on the French Caribbean island of Guadeloupe following her release from prison until she moved back to Canada and settled in Châteauguay; a suburb of Montréal. Karla's reason for living in the French-speaking Canadian province of Quebec is because she wouldn't be as much of a target for vigilante retribution as she would be in the English-speaking provinces of Canada.
This woman has always left me wondering, "WHY??" Why would she continue to go along with helping her husband with his sick, perverted murders when, as you brought up, she had opportunities to go to law enforcement on several occasions to report what was going on? Fear of going to prison was likely one reason, but I can't see it as the sole reason.
You've done a great job of delving into both personalities and why they made the perfect couple from Hell. In each photo of Karla, the look in her eyes is absolutely evil and soulless, matching Paul's.
Thank you for solving some of the mysteries of Karla and Paul. Many remain and will never be answered. You've done a stellar job of researching and speculating about what made them tick, a most labyrinthine journey to say the least!
Very interesting analysis, you’ve made a good argument to her victim hood. First time I’ve actually been able to conceivably see that side of it. She is still a super scary lady! Thanks for the great video and reminding me why psych is so dang interesting!
As a Canadian and a young woman at the time this was terrifying- my parents wouldn't let me watch the news or hear the grusome details of these horrific crimes. Both these names will send shivers down the spine of any Canadian alive at the time and even now. It was a shock that she was volunteering at school in Montreal, and, that she had her own children. She should be on the registry for life- victim or not.
A small pronunciation note: In Canadian media reports, Homolka rhymes with "polka".
---Dr Grande didn’t mispronounce her last name, he just stuck the ‘l’ in there to emphasize she is a louse.
I'm Canadian from Ontario. I hesitated before opening this video because of a visceral reaction of horror to this case. It was difficult to listen to Dr. Grande refer to them by their first names only, which is his practise. But I know it helps to keep the narratives straight for viewers and some of these case are so complicated. However, using only their first names was jarring, as in Canada they are usually referred to by their full names or just their surnames. At the time, our nation was devastated by what they did and outraged at Homolka's sentence. Also, Bernardo is thought to be the Scarborough Rapist. Now, I'm gonna have a glass of wine and try to get this outta my head. Still, thank you for doing this video.
She lived here in Montreal last I knew, particularly in the borough of NDG (her kids went to school there anyway). I love and am proud to be a born Canadian. I wouldn't trade my citizenship for the world. But I'm not shy to throw shade on our judicial system, especially after all this came to light. Talk about getting away with murder. Sickening.
Thank you for making a vid on this case, doc! This is one of the cases that always sticks to me, cuz I can't imagine someone letting this happen to their sister (and other women, obviously).
Yaaasss! Asked for this a while ago. Thanks Doc!
Anne's MS Chronicles me too! Still a haunting case.
Wow! Saw the thumbnail, couldn't believe my eyes, I had to do a double-take. I sooo BEELINED for this episode. Thank you, Dr Grande for your expert analysis of the most hated woman in Canadian criminal history.
I have a feeling Kieth Raniere and NXIVM may come up in a video.
YES!!! NXIVM!
I never clicked so fast! Great video, Dr. Grande! No one seems to speak about this case anymore. When it first occurred, she exerted a kind of sick fascination for some mental health professionals, one of whom said his ideal date was a glass of mine with Karla. I guess to figure out how her mind worked? Women are perceived as nurturers so much so that a woman like this seems inconceivable.
I feel very sorry for her children. I heard that other kids shunned them once her true identity was discovered. This will follow them around for life. And eventually, they will know the full story. I hope they will get all the therapy they will need.
Can you imagine. Kill your own sister.
Both should receive 2,000 volts at 10 amps.
🇨🇦 nope, moved past all that.
I hope the parents that locked the 14 year old child out of their house for missing curfew are forever living in painful regret as well as the other two wastes of flesh and bones. I heard this case a long time ago but it was only presented with info about Tammy, not the other victims.
She was a willing participant in the crimes...the tapes proved that, but they only surfaced after her trial/plea deal. She played the system and won, She should still be in jail....for good!
As someone with a sister who I would take a bullet for, hearing about what happened to that poor Tammy gave me chills. I always try to see the humanity in everyone, yes even people who commit murder, but drugging, r**ing and murdering your own sister is a different kind of cold. It concerns me that this woman has kids of her own because clearly flesh and blood mean nothing to her. Great analysis as always.
My understanding is that Paul Bernardo and not Karla Homolka was the one who revealed the existence of the tapes after the plea deal with Homolka. He wanted the degree of her involvement in the crimes to be revealed. His lawyer went and retrieved them from the house after the police had failed to find them. That is when the public became particularly outraged about her lenient sentence.
Nice work. I was wondering if you would be able to do an episode on Christine Chubbuck, the women who committed suicide on a live news report. Thanks again, keep up the great work!
Deadbug says on youtube did a doc about her.
I've been waiting for this 🙌
This couple made me physically ill. Her poor sister 😩 ugh.
But your analysis on these gross cases...I can’t stop. 😘
I've been waiting for this analysis. Thank you Dr. Grande.
I remember when this case happened and I read a true crime book written about this case. Its disappointing that she did not get a life sentence. I hope she is in the care of a psychiatrist so she cannot hurt any other people. She is a scary human being.
How explorative Dr Grande. Optimizing the content of this one without two many acronyms. 🙏 A toast to the newly weds, thanks for your sister. Our wedding glasses were so sentimental.
I remember after she was out the parents at her kid's school realized who she was and wanted her banned from campus.
Great work as always! Thanks for all your hard work! Cheers Doc!