Why Is My Plywood Floor Framing Squeaking? - Construction And Repair Tutorial
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- www.homebuildingandrepairs.com... Click on this link for more information about construction problems, building repairs and home renovation. Here's a problem that might occur more in older homes than newer ones, but most of the time a squeaking floor in a wood framed house usually has something to do with two building components rubbing up against each other. Watch the video to learn more and leave any questions or comments in the comment area.
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I can't wait for part two. Thank you so much
Excellent overview! I just tried it and was amazed to see that my studfinder could actually 'see' the joists thru the carpet and plywood (barely). Looks like I have a couple of screws to put down. Even if it doesn't work, it's a low-effort job. I assume maybe 1.5" screws will avoid any plumbing running thru the joists?
Thank you 🙏 so much! This is literally the best video I have seen after searching for a very long time. Thanks again.
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Appreciate your content. Thank you
This is such an excellent educational resource! Thank you! 👏
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Awesome video. If I need to reattach the plywood to the joist with screws, what is the difference between construction golden screws and black coated flooring screws? Which is better?
Another great video. Thank you. One question, what CAD program are you using?
Should you use a deck screw for any fixes, to prevent the subfloor from being pulled up?
Never nail the flooring, it may be fast but its not good enough. Pre-drill the flooring with a countersunk clearance hole and screw the floor down. If you don't predrill the floor will be lifted by the screw as it is tightened leaving a gap. In the UK the joists and blocking have to be inspected before plasterboarding and one of the checks is that all the joist hangers are fixed securely.
If you come across squeaky floor boards a good fix is to shoot the plumber or sparky who did such a shity job putting the boards back after they hacked the floor up.
Use proper screws with an unthreaded section of shank just below the screw head. That way, the screw pulls down the floor deck and leaves no gap. These screws also have ribs under the head to countersink properly. Predrilling is unnecessary and not practical. Also, aiir-driven ring-shanked nails are very effective and almost impossible to remove without tearing up a chunk of wood.
Or just use adhesive.
great video and explanation!
Glad you liked it!
My problem is a very loud snapping noise, really bad from upstairs when somone walking around. I am in the UK, and my house is timber framed! Hope you get shed some light on this. Thank you.
You need to find what's moving, either joist, sheathing or something else. This might require you to remove flooring or ceiling below or if you have a basement or crawlspace, see if you can find something moving when someone is above walking or bouncing in that area.
Totally DIY’er here that removed carpet to lay down LVP. I learned so much from this video and your very thorough and articulate explanations. My problem could be any one of the listed reasons. The problem is, is that it’s on the second floor. I tried drilling in screws and that didn’t solve the issue as it normally would. How would I go about attempting to remedy the squeaking from above?
You might not be able to. Keep in mind that some of the squeaking could be from the mid span blocks or anything else rubbing against another object.
I’ve seen other contractors recommend painting a diluted glue solution in between the subfloor boards. Apparently the glue solution works it’s way into the joints and helps prevent the squeaking.
If you have nails pull every nail out & replace with a deck screw it could be loose nails rubbing against the wood
I was thinking of an easy quick fix to this problem. Once you remove the carpet and underlay then you will see an existing pattern of screws for the flooring...if you drilled new screws offset 1cm to the old screws in the same line, wouldn't that be a quick fix method to tighten the floorboards?
Very helpful
Glad you think so!
Best way I found to fix this problem, after the fact, when you have access to the floor from the basement, is to use cedar shingles to create a small gap between the plywood and the joist and then fill it in with a high strength construction adhesive (Loctite PL or Lepage PL 3X or 8X). It will never squeak again.
Can you do a video?
Do you leave the shims in place or do you remove once the glue is in?
@@bvac I personally just leave them there and cut off the excess with a utility knife.
@@kenking8199 If any additional squeaks appear, I will post a small video.
My room has two bad squeak spots. One is in the middle of the room, I have yet to see if screws will fix that one. However the worse culprit is the on at the entrance of the room. It almost sounds like it's under the wall. I screwed in a bunch of screws along the joist, and underneath in the basement into the wall, however it did not quiet it down at all. The joists are conventional framed lumber (look like 2x10). From the basement, with someone in the room rocking back and forth, I cannot see any visible motion. All I know is screws did not solve my problem :(
I would look for any movement from above or below while someone is standing above floor trying to make it squeak and if you can't see anything moving, then you might need to start removing parts of the flooring, framing or anything else that is preventing you from finding the problem.
How can I be sure I’m not drilling into a pipe or wire?
If the cause is due shrinking joists, and you live in a single family home/condo, but have shared walls with neighbors... would the HOA or the property owner be liable for the repairs?
You would need to check with them or contact an attorney. In some cases there are two separate shared walls, but if there is one shared wall, then you bring up a good point that both parties would be responsible.
I'm in a townhouse. When walking to my bathroom, the direction in the house is end-to-end, not front to back. When I get to the end of my bed and walk about four steps to the bathroom threshold, I start hearing popping behind me. 4 to 5. I call them go steps because they occur after I'm a couple feet pass them. Signed, driving me f****** nuts!
Yeah the old squeaking floors.
I can stand in the middle of the room and the floor by the wall squeaks... its driving me mad.
That would be irritating.
If that's the case why don't they make nails for those jobs that's aren't smooth so it won't ever squeak
So bottom line, if you got squeaks, you can't ever 100% get rid of them?
Those 2x12 have the crown down..👎
The reason they are crowned down is to provide you with an example of how this problem can be created.
My room has two bad squeak spots. One is in the middle of the room, I have yet to see if screws will fix that one. However the worse culprit is the on at the entrance of the room. It almost sounds like it's under the wall. I screwed in a bunch of screws along the joist, and underneath in the basement into the wall, however it did not quiet it down at all. The joists are conventional framed lumber (look like 2x10). From the basement, with someone in the room rocking back and forth, I cannot see any visible motion. All I know is screws did not solve my problem :(
If you can't see anything from above or below then it might be in-between. If not, then I won't be any help, because squeaking is almost always caused by movement.