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.re is a link to a video where I show you the different types of screws and how they work. Cheers! czcams.com/video/TqQMGgr9Uns/video.html
All that damn experimental building is what have a lot of homes jacked up, this is why I dont understand why homes cost so much
Cant wait for the old floors leveling videos
Home Depot has subfloor screws by Grip-Rite, GRK. Lowe’s has squeak no more and Menards has Grip Fast. They just call them subfloor screws. They almost look like deck screws. As always great videos. Love the enthusiasm and great attitude. You’re a great instructor as well.
Can you do a vid on how to fix bouncy floors. I have a house in the states in NJ built in 1906 and I have a bow on some floors and a bad bounce in them
@@jamestaylor2039 you need more bracing in between the joists especially if you have 24 on center..I have the same issue..
"I'm no grand piano".... Hmmmm, that's suspiciously something that a grand piano disguised as a man would say.
Execute order 66 (likes)
This comment really keys it in.
😆 bravo sir
Squeaky floors will be popular again at some point in the future. They’ll just call it "retro".
Or "Vintage". Remember, vintage never goes out of style...it just becomes more vintage ;).
“reclaimed” squeaks. Millennials will pay extra for that!
It's a home security feature.
@@camaroman101 hahaha that's true, it's impossible to sneak upstairs in my house
@@j10001 you’re so smart and wise and the millennials are so stupid and naive. Haha, you sure showed them! /s
I've got a townhouse that is only 14 yrs. old and we have squeaks up the wazoo. This info will help me fix the floors myself without having to hire a handyman. As a woman, I really appreciate all of your step by step instructions. You are helping to make my renovation more accessible and convenient for me so I don't have to pay to have help doing basics. Thank you!!
Cheers Josie! Happy to be of help!
My townhome was built in 2002 and I have the same issue. Squeaks everywhere. This info is great. Just waiting to take out the carpet first.
Another woman taking charge.. lol...I usually get strange looks by everyone when I’m on a job site with my dad..I’m 42 and 5’ tall but work circles around most the guys lol..I love this kind of work...it’s so satisfying seeing the end results...I’ve also taught myself how to work on my vehicle...some pretty major things too..replaced the entire front end..ball joints control arms struts tie rods everything...talk about a huge pain! But a sledge hammer and a torch helps greatly when u gotta use muscle u don’t have lol...as for working on a building...if ur ripping things out...grab the big sledge hammer...so much quicker and easier and less chance of hurting urself..lol...I learned that the hard way lol
My townhouse was built in 2010. Squeeks after a few years. Redid the flooring in 2018 upstairs. Tons of nails where sticking up. A few boxes of screws later, and it was quiet.
Couldn’t find flooring screws and my Home Depot, however, there are deck screws that fit the bill, worked like a charm for my 1940s house
flooring screws have a coarse thread (to add strength) and are coated to avoid squeaks. I never thought of deck screws as an alternative, which are readily available. Thanks for the tip.
Deck screws are what I would have used.
I don't think many in USA use subfloor screws even thought they do exist. I used deck screws. One tip is don't tighten the screw down like crazy or you will pull the floor. Just sink the screw a little bit. I am in the middle of putting down 2 layers of 3/4 pine. I used a planer in one are to make it even using a 6 foot level as I went.
There’s Squeak-No-More screws that can be used without removing flooring. They have threads with different patterns that draw the subfloor and flooring together.
What kind of deck screws
Also, I really appreciate all of your videos. You make it understandable to me. I just remodeled our powder room. Totally gutted it down to the studs and made board and batten walls for my wife's farmhouse style. It looks amazing and I never would have had the confidence to tackle it before watching your videos. Thank you!
the GRK R4's are the best subfloor screw I have found. star drive, self tapping tip, and they countersink super clean without tearing the OSB and ballooning the surface up. the head is also grooved on the back to increase positive contact and friction.
Thanks for the info !
Thanks for the information
You’re awesome
Hello from newfieland. I just read through 30+ comments. No drama or garbage. Great to see there are still great channels out there. Thanks for the content
Anyone who knows how to work for a living is welcome here my friend. Cheers!
Check again. I hooked you right up.
You are a genius! I love the way you envision everything before you do it - taking everything into consideration (hence, Reno-VISION).
After watching one of your previous videos I renovated my old RV using your techniques - it was my first time installing new flooring - and it turned out amazing!
Keep it up my man - you are helping out SO many people!
Cheers Nate! Well done!
This series is going to be useful to my current project. Hopefully I remember to look for the vids. Thanks Jeff.
You bet
Thank you Jeff, you’re no grand piano, but you are “The Man”!!
Great timing! I have a 2 story house with a garage that is open to the roof. I'm going to add a subfloor to convert the unused space into a room accessible from the second floor. These videos have details that are directly applicable to my project. Thanks Jeff!
So excited for this series! I have a 1970s home that was not kept up and has floor joist cut to accommodate plumbing and was never sistered!! So I'm leaving it to the professionals to jack the floor up. But afterwards this is gonna be goldddd
Jeff you're the best! Thank you for all you do.
Dear Jeff: Thank you. Your videos are making me smarter and seeing how many subscribers you have confirms that your expertise is well received. Liked and subscribed my friend.
Awesome, thank you!
No future flooring job in the near future but I love to learn. You helped me install my first a several other renovation projects. I get better with each project and your videos are to thank. Hands down the best channel to learn from. Thank you
Can't wait to see the following videos! Actually just moved into a 40-50s era house full of squeaky floors and we're wanting to remove a bunch of old carpet and put down vinyl plank flooring. Super timely series!
Note for tongue and groove you don't necessarily screw everything down, you can in most spots, but some ends will squeak that don't overlap joists. Talcum powder can be sprinkled and swept into the joints between boards to eliminate squeaks from rubbing (need to find baby powder with talc, less has it nowadays).
We just bought a 1966 townhouse with an upper floor that squeaks like crazy! I'm putting this video into my research file for when we eventually remodel! Thank you!
There are several tricks, which I’m sure will come in the next videos. This was just one.
Sounds great!
There are screws you can get that go through the carpet then break off the head but I'm not sure how well the hold since have no head. Designed to go through carpet so you don't need to remove it
@@jamesmacintyre1415 In my home, they fixed about 30-50% of squeaks, no effect on the rest. The ones which work, are holding well.
@@juzoli this why live this group. Always great info come out when needed
When i installed a hardwood floor I used subfloor adhesive to bond it to the subfloor and carpenters glue in the tong and groove. It was a lot of extra work but the entire floor is a solid monolith. No squeaks there.
That is what makes homeowners the best contractor on the job. They give a damn! Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Until the electrician comes in and wants the floor up to run cables... A minute with an impact driver (if it were screwed down) turns into a huge pain in the ass.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Question: Is it necessary to use adhesive on the floor joists if you only screw the new subfloor down and use no nails at all?
@@kturn5953 Did you find an answer
@@nateislate5551 If using decking screws to secure the subfloor to floor joists, than the adhesive is overkill. Nails cause squeaks over time and pull out, so the adhesives help. With screws, you avoid all of those problems. Using star bit decking screws and a plug-in ~9amp powered (mixing) drill makes the job easier and keeps you from burning out your smaller drills/drivers like I did! Still not a single squeak over all 2,000 sq ft :)
Great job explaining this Jeff! Not only did you talk about it, but you show people it actually happening. I'm getting ready to fix the 50 -year-old sub-floor in the Montana home I bought before plan to put new flooring and carpet in. The original owner tried fixing the sub-floor by nailing a particle board floor onto the existing floor. Of course that didn't fix the problem because he didn't bother to screw the top floor through the old floor to the joists! Now I have to pull all that crap off and redo it! Anyway, thanks for the passion and explanations in your videos. Keep up the good work sir and warm regards from MT!
Man, your videos are so good. I knew good carpenters could fix such issues, but the way you have to explain is just awesome. Everything starts to make sense.
In march 2021 I bought a house that was built in 1968 and my wife and I wanted all new carpet put in bedrooms and floating luxury vinyl in the living spaces. I got to work tearing out the old carpet and I discovered that I had a half inch plywood subfloor with a half in particle sheeting stapled down to it. This floor was insanely soft squishy and screamed bloody murder no matter where you walked. It flexed everywhere and there were so many staples it rubbed on. My heart sank a bit because this meant I would have to forever live with the squeaks which isn't even an option if you ask me or tear up all the particle board which was about 1500sq ft. Which I did, that also meant I removed all the the baseboards, door trim, doors and door frames. Then I came back with the 3/4" tongue and groove plywood purchased at record high prices (I was just grateful it was even available to purchase) and laid it over the original 1/2 plywood. Totaling 1 1/4 inch subfloor. I used 2 1/2 construction screws and my impact to fasten all of this down to the floor joist. My impact drill was smoking hot and cant believe it still works. Now when you walk around my house it is so solid you would think it was a concrete slab. Now I am always overkill when I do big projects like this. Anyone else would have just done 1/2 or maybe 5/8 sheeting like you see in this video, but you can see how much it flexes when he steps on it. How anything less than 3/4" is standard practice is beyond me. He steps on it and it flexes, the way I did it with 3/4" tongue and groove over the original 1/2" sheeting it feels like you could park a truck on it. Anyone with a house built in the mid 60's to 70's that has that particle board crap I feel for you, but to me there's no way else to fix it other than replacement.
1 and 1/4 inch flooring is commercial grade flooring! Glad that you took out the particle board. I think the video shows 24 inch spacing between joists. It flexes too much!
Perfect timing! We are about to replace subfloor made of particle board in one of the rooms. Need to cut all around the walls and remove existing sheets. Can’t wait to hear from you how to do it. You are awesome!
that is next saturday. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Thank you so much! How to make a straight cut along the wall and not to cut/damage supporting beam/stud ? We found 1 saw, it’s a newer product that cut straight along the wall, but it little expensive. Or should we use Sawzall? but the cut might be not that straight and we can cut supporting joist. Regular electric circular saw does not go flash with the wall. We will have to use it with an angle.
Jeff, I'd just like to heap upon you all the synonyms for thanks, gratitude and appreciation, in order to thank you for all the knowledge you share... yet, even then, I don't think they'd be adequate. My wife and I finally got a nice little house with "good bones" that we want to renovate, bit by bit, just as we like, with our own hands (it's just sooooooo satisfying!) and your wisdom is priceless!!! Thanks to you, we do most every job with far greater accuracy, skill and quality than ... well, I shudder to think what sort of work we'd have done without it. Thank you seems so weak but, with immeasurable gratitude, I thank you!!!!
At 8:00 you are spitting gold Jeff! Thanks for saving me trouble and even worry by emphasizing the changes over time around building materials.
Nice vid.
Probably worth mentioning to check for cables and pipes!
Wow! Man you are good! In fact the best I have ever come across when it comes to explaining about renovation and building methodologies. Your explanations are detailed and yet explained very simply. You are really God gifted in your profession and bestowed with an excellent sense of humour and oratory skills/ skills of verbal articulation.
love this guy going an extra mile to show and explain all in details, cheers from fellow canadien 🇨🇦😀
I'm about to replace all of my floating floors and carpet. This is very timely advice
cheers I love it when a video is helpful
You’re saving my sanity, thank you so much for this video!
You're so welcome! Happy to help!
Renovating a 1969 home in Michigan . Main floor is 2x8 joists and am in the middle of sistering all of them up with LVL to hold porcelain tile. Ripped out all hardwood and next will be doing exactly this to the original subfloor to get rid of all squeaks before laying another layer of 3/4" ply (perpendicular to the lower sub floor) on top. I found 'Grip-Rite' screws at Home Depot that are recommended as floor screws for anyone looking. Can't wait to see these next videos - thank you!
I just went though a floor package rebuild in an older home. Lots of work but came out great. Used lots of your (and others) youtube videos for help. Along with a pail (5000) flooring screws and some joist hangers. Gotta love those "handyman" specials who cut through the meat of the material with a 2" hole saw to run a 1/2" water pipe and a couple of electrical cables...which then rots completely with a 20 year bathroom leak...
WOOOOOOOO!! 1st thing o noticed was the electrical tape bandaid. Thanks for the videos JEFF
Good call! iF you don't have a bandaid, you don't work for a living and you don't know what you're talking about.
Used to work in construction as an electrician when I was frech out of school (collage? , don't know how you say it) ... Yeah, I had a few on each hand 🖐️ 😂
I just did this step. I found several places where the squeaks were coming from the two layers of sub floor flexing. In those cases I put in a grid of screws spaced 6-8 inches apart to basically get the two sub-floor layers acting like one layer. No squeaks and much less flex underfoot!
Having a similar issue myself. Did you use the screws the video demonstrates or another type? How are they holding up? My squeaks are coming from the top layer subfloor where the sheets meet/flex, which are between the joists.
Thanks Jeff and team. I have an old home and I’m very much looking forward to the rest of this series!
Ahh so happy this video came out now! I'm renovating a house (in the Netherlands) and I had no clue what to do with the squeaky floors. Thanks!
They're usually called deck screws in the US, but sometimes you can find "construction screws" with a smooth section of shank. You also have to be careful because sometimes they sell "deck screws" that are laminating screws (top section of the shank has coarser threads instead of no threads)!
Cheers Thanks!
Very informative thank you for sharing your expertise! From Manila, Philippines.
Glad it was helpful! Cheers to the Philipines!
Great tips, Thanks! Can't wait to see what you recommend for leveling out the subfloor in your upcoming videos. I will be needing to do that for a laminate floor install in a late 80's home.
Coming soon!
Just moved into an older house about 6 months ago. Hired a flooring company to redo practically the whole house and I specifically told them to do this. After the flooring was all installed, I noticed that there were still god awful squeaks all over. Flooring guy said they tried but used up all their screws. Can't tell you how mad I've been as now I have to live with the squeaks for who knows how many years .... unless these next few videos are going to give me a way to fix it (and I hope that's the case!). We have vinyl flooring by the way. Great videos and just wanted to say thanks for all your great videos. You help guys like me who never had anyone teach me these things so know that it is appreciated. Been a subscriber ever since I bought my home. Cheers!
thank you for this, i bought my first house and my entire second floor squeaks like that, once we recarpet i will do this for sure.
@Grants4u Ltd I don't know what type the floors are made of its all carpeted... What do you do when it's chipboard then?
Glad it was helpful!
Just pull up the carpet and screw the sub floor down now. You can roll the carpet back out and tuck it under the baseboard. Regards...
Funny people have all these expensive homes and hardwood floors, but it squeaks like worn car brakes
@@Chuffin_elltuck it under the baseboard? What's going to hold it taut if he does that? Regards...
Always love the insight you share. You gotta come back down to Philly again
Working on it!
Again? When was he here?
Before I found this video I watched 3 or 4 other ones from people with really weird ideas about how to fix this with regular baking soda treatments, clamps that you put on from below, etc. This is such a simple and obvious solution once you understand what's making the noise. An excellent video on how to solve a problem I would have never figured out myself.
Fantastic info!! We are redoing a floor this next week and this is perfect timing!! Thanks again!
Blessings
Glad it was helpful!
I use the Simpson Strong Tie Sub Flooring Screw works Great
well done Keith. Cheers!
They took awhile to find in small quantities, but I found subfloor screws at Menards. Home depot and lowes were both online only.
Cheers Eric!
Perfect timing for my new flooring installation. I'm about to pull up the nasty old carpet and definitely have some squeaks that need to be fixed!
I'm very excited for the rest of the series! I have a bit of a sag in the floor I've been nervous to open up.
Senco sells “subfloor” screws in the states. Couldn’t find them in the big box office stores “IE Hime Depot / Lowe’s” but found it no problem is most lumber yard stores, and always on Amazon.
Cheers thanks matthew.
Thanks for the confirmation that we did it right! A few years ago, we replaced all of the main floor flooring (mainly cheap carpet and tile) in our late 80's home with hardwood and upgraded tile. After the removal of the old stuff, my son and I drove thousands of floor screws into the subfloor to try to get rid of the squeaks. We probably went a little overboard, driving them every 4 to 6 inches, and marking the joists with string to make sure we didn't miss, but I didn't want to find out after the new stuff was installed that we hadn't put enough in. Fortunately, it worked. The floors are much, much quieter.
That's exactly what my brother and I did. We went through a couple of buckets of flooring screws. Murder on the knees but the silent floors are well worth it.
@@user-hm5zb1qn6g I'm contemplating replacing the entire OSB subfloor in a few bedrooms -- is this a bad idea? or will floor screws solve the problem?
@@SR-te2db Assuming the OSB didn't get wet or mouldy, suffer fire damage or have a meteor fall through it, it doesn't go bad, so I wouldn't replace it, esp at today's prices. If the subfloor is of a certain era where they used nails and no PL400 adhesive on the tops of the floor joists, as you walk on those floors the OSB will flex (called deflection) and the nails will move. Squeak. The first thing to do (after you've taken up the carpet or whatever flooring you have in those BRs) is to find where the floor joists run, snap chalk lines, and screw the living shyt along those lines. As Ray says above, every 4-6 inches. Cordless drill and knee pads are you friend. That might solve it. If it doesn't, what I've done for clients with flexing OSB or plywood subfloors is I have installed blocking between the floor joists (every 16 inches, if necessary but you could probably get away with every 24 inches). This assumes you have access from below (ie unfinished basement ceiling). I usually use dimensional lumber of the same size as the floor joists. Make your cut for a snug fit, squeeze some PL400 on to the top of the blocking, knock it in with a hammer, use a speed square to make sure it sits squarely between the joists, then drive three 3-inch screws through the floor joists into each end of the blocking. Then go back upstairs and install more floor screws through the subflooring into the new blocking. Yes, it's work. But for my money the silent floors are worth it.
I usually just look for the answer to my question but you just educated me about the way houses were vs are built. Interesting enough because I'm a DIY and I put down 2 1/4 hardwoods and yes the imperfections could have NEVER been done with anything bigger. Thank you for teaching me something.
You are the man!!! This is exactly the video series i asked for in the comments on another video!! Don't know what I'd do with out y'all!!
"I'm no grand piano!" - too precious :)
I'm in the process of flattening my subfloor in a 60 year old house in preparation for LVP. Can't wait to see what I messed up or wasted my time and money on as there's no way my wife will let me hold out for the entire series to be released!
Same!
You are a life saver 🙏
My parents have a 99year old house here in Chicago and it’s a brick house but the flooring is so old I be thinking the house flooring will come down one of this days and I been getting interested in these videos and getting the inspire to go for a course of flooring to get my license so I can do my parents flooring and your videos are easy simple and show by detail and explains why… love it thanks
Thank you for all your advice you've given me the courage to remodel my bathroom!!
Literally did this yesterday, didn't see any floor screws. Used general construction screws, worked well. I did however find a rotted floor joist near the front entrance... gota figure that out now.
What length screws?
@@matthewsladky7193 I believe 3 inch
In the states there is a brand called squeak no more, whose screw head can be removed after installation, making a more discreet installation. Saved my floor, thought finding the joists was a pain.
I used these over a year ago and some of them have come back up. The snapped off head started hitting bare feet so I had to remove a couple of them. You can find the old nails using super strong neodymium magnets. One you find the lines from a couple of nails you can mark out the line of where they should be. I did this through carpet and underlay.
Tried this, it didn't work
I tried those in my Canadian 1960s house. It didn't work...
@@JoeSmith-ez3zg true that, didn't work for me
I’ve used these with mixed results. There meant to fix squeaks and noises under finished carpet. If you have unfinished flooring or are removing the existing floor covering, I would waste my money on them. What I found they fixed some of the noises and created others, just shifted loads and the source of the sound. If you can, remove the oiled floor covering, use floor screws, deck screws and reattach the whole floor.
I'm just working on replacing the floor now. I appreciate all of these tips. Thanks
Good video. I am a framer and in production carpentry we still use pneumatic nailers as our main fastening system for subfloor. However we use ring shank nails which mimic the effects of a flooring screw quite well without the wasted time of screwing down every single sheet.
Hey can i ask - can I just put shims in the gaps between joist and subfloor?
Whoever dislikes these videos are bums. Thanks for being so informative Jeff! Looking forward to eventually renovating/remodeling a home following your tips.
Thanks 👍 You got this!
My fingers are crossed that you do a video on fixing sagging floors.
look forward to the upcoming videos of when you do the older house dimensional lumber joists that are perhaps wider and not as deep, and additionally have pre-existing plumbing and electrical already intact, integrated into those joists and updating them to carry the newer materials upgrade.
Thanks for all the great video Jeff. They have really helped a lot with finishing in my new room!!!!
I am working on my subfloors now. I looked for screws specifically labeled as floor or sub-floor screws but didn't find any. We have drywall, deck and construction screws. I am using #8, torx head construction screws for my screw downs. Actually #10 now that I look.
Cheers that will work
This channel should be renamed "Think 'bout this for a minute..."
I laughed so loud
Lol
It's like your videos are submitted directly when I'm getting ready to start a project. God bless you and your videos my friend :) You're a genius.
What about if carpet is over the floors or stairs but also squeaks? Can’t screw through the carpet. Cut nails and glue from underneath? Any other suggestions?
Omg, what a perfect timing on that video - I'm starting doing my floors TODAY:))) Thank you for the tip:)
2x10 Douglas fir 16 OC ,pressure blocking ,subfloor PL, screws (yes we have them) No 5/8s osb ,Best grade 3/4
ply or Advantech.
No problem
Okay, I’m not a construction guy. Just a homeowner that does diy around the house. Can you please decipher what you just wrote. I understand what you mean by “2x10 Douglas fir 16 OC” but nothing after that. Thanks!
@@frankcampos1251 Hi Frank , I'm pretty busy today but I will get back on here, and break it down.
Randall
A close up of a what a flooring screw looked like in comparison to a regular screw would have been nice. Maybe a quick strength test also. Cheers great videos
they look like plain Phillips drywall screw
@@Dave-tw9ib No, they don't. Drywall screws is the least thing you want to use to secure the flooring.
Best channel on the interweb, the chef would never let you live this down!
I live in a 2 unit rental and everyu little step I make sounds so incredibly loud down stairs. I am so glad you have started this flooring series. maybe I can repair these hardwood slat floors
Too many people skip this step and make a new floor feel old!
Cheers to that Daniel! it is all about preparation!
Down here we have "squeek no more" screws for flooring sold at Lowe's lol
Perfect timing as I am about to do some work on the entire subfloor of the house and even replace a section that rotted due to A/C leaking.
Great timing. We're redoing our kitchen and replacing the flooring. I didn't even think to just go over the current subfloor with screws.
I see that you spent approximately $5000 worth of material just for this video. 😉 Thanks Jeff
You bet!
I have looked, but have never found ‘floor screws’ in my area (Massachusetts). Mostly multi-purpose star drive construction screws is all I have seen by grip rite or spax and what I’ve used for subfloors. Always wondered about your references to floor screws in your videos!
Same situation in Texas as with Massachusetts as far as I know.
Same in PA. I just go for a screw that is “topless” - the threads stop a half inch or so below the head - this lets the subfloor get sucked down tight. Deck screws usually fit the bill.
Honestly bud you are the best. Love your channel and all the knowledge you share. Stay blessed
Brilliant video! This will help me with all the floor boards the creak in my home. Thank you
I've even seen builders apply a glue to the joist before they lay down the sub floor them screw it down.
Yep Liquid Nail and rim shank nails from a nail gun and 2 perpendicular running 3/4 plywoods before floating floor. No squeaks
That is code / standard practice in all Canadian homes or Glued then screwed
What’s the difference between floor screws and general screws?
Strength of the screw also general screws cant be used in home construction as they have no shear strength. There is also a code about them.
the top of the shaft is smooth and leaves the head exposed if you don't find the joist!
So incredibly helpful Jeff, yet again!
Thank you from Australia 🇦🇺
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers to our Australian Cousins!
Saw you do this in an older video before, glad you redid this
Not seen them actually called floor screws but like deck screws or something with a different name sort of.
They're just black oxide interior wood screws.
@@hedonisticzen could a sheet rock screw serve same purpose you think?
not for long. too weak
@@oklahomachris6298 they look similar but the core of these are steel unlike sheet rock screws.
@@hedonisticzen got ya
Never add screws where they are "missing", that's how I hit my water pipe!
get a lumber detector?
bad water pipe installation in that case.
Must have notched the joist wrong.
I smoke bongs for fun
Thanks for this awesome info. I'm about to pull carpet out of my living room and put in LVT and I thought I had to add another layer of plywood to stop the squeaks. And with the cost of plywood, it wasn't going to be a cheap fix! Thanks!
We live in a late 1950's house with floors that have some squeaks, in fact once in awhile we will feel a nail through the carpet. I looked in the basement and notice that we have pretty solid 2X10's placed 16 inches on centre and 9 inch wide tongue and groove planks, 3/4 inch thick, nailed on the diagonal for a sub floor. I'm guessing that's pretty solid and when we replace the old flooring all we have to do is take Jeff's advice in this video. Thanks Jeff, you do great work.
My house was built in 2018, and we had only lived there about six months before the floor started to creak in multiple locations. I'm so pissed at all the corners that were cut when my house was built. Fortunately, the basement is unfinished and it is pretty easy to find where the squeaks are coming from and address them from underneath, but it's bull$%!t that I have to do it so much.
How are you addressing squeaks from underneath
This is why I refuse to buy one of the mass built pieces of garbage they have going for $300k+ around here. There are big companies that have bought up acres and acres of land and are mass building cul-de-sacs with houses so close you can reach out and touch your neighbor, and they're all being built as cheap as possible. It's absolutely disgusting what some builders get away with.
This demo must of costed you at least a 1000 dollars in wood! Lol
about 250.00 acyua.ly. Cheers worth it if it helps you all out!
Yeah, at 48 bucks for 7/16 OSB .... it would seem that way ..... joists etc were likely 'cut offs'
*must have
@@alistair1978utube Nah, must of works for me.
Great video. A point worth considering- here in the UK there can be live pipes and cables running everywhere, sometimes just beneath subfloor. You can never trust the current regulations or the tradesman who's gone before you, so don't just plough a load of screws anywhere.
As the man said, add a screw next to the existing nail, but go close to it, to minimise the chance of hitting anything untowards.
Always appreciate your insight and knowledge.
Thanks again!
Nice just common sense, I always say glue and screw.
I glued and nailed. I used Liquid Nail and rim shank nails on 2 opposite running plywoods and no sounds as the glue will not let it move
I tore out the old sub floor, upgraded to some proper 3/4" ply, construction adhesive on every joist and a bead run along the joint line as the next piece went down. 2" deck screws on 10" centers. Zero squeaks and a rock solid dead quiet floor. A bit time consuming to do and I couldn't afford to pay a pro to do this, but it made a massive difference.
@@turningpoint6643 man, talk about belt and suspenders.
@@turningpoint6643 Now that is over-engineering, I love it. That is my dream floor. I want the one house in the neighborhood that is still standing after the hurricane/tornado/flood/blizzard/meteorite impact. Your home is probably that home.
@@hedonisticzen True, but those previous squeaks dove me nuts.
We are about to redo our second level flooring soon. This was amazing. Thank you!
How old is your house? Mine is 6 years and it’s nightmare
@@azizmezieche9132 year build was 1975
I didn't know that about old growth lumber. I learn something literally every time I watch your videos.
I believe that the floor screws that you have are the same that we use for the drywall here in the US. Great video. Thanks
I’m a first time homeowner (house built in ‘86) and this is SO RELEVANT! Thank you so much and I love learning these tips and tricks!
Edit: just wanted to say these videos are very well produced and top-notch quality. Super informative to boot!
This was SO helpful. Thank you x a million for a quick and easy to understand video.
Love, love your channel...No BS...just great info, well presented. Boom, 'hammer drop'!
When I framed a mansion in Utah we used 7/8" AdvanTech Subflooring with AdvanTech squeak-free polyurethane adhesive with 2-3/8" ring-shank nails. On top of that we installed PEX tubing for floor heat and encased it in 1.5" of gyp-crete underlayment before applying hardwood flooring. It was, by far, the most solid, noise-deadening floor I've ever experienced.