I think that the answer to the question is Umibouzo. The sea priest. The one who demands demanded money from sailors, otherwise they will destroy the ship, killing them in the process. Like a priest! But on sea. I guess that you can't escape taxes nowhere...
I love how they felt bad for killing silkworms or even random bugs but when it came to children that you suffered 9 months for, they were just like ”aw.. anyways"
Silkworms bring money, children eat money, especially in the first part of life and forever if is a girl. Unfortunately this could had been the mindset. 😭💔
I mean, a lot of the times the people who run around today protesting that "meat is murder" are also the same ones (or at least on the side of) #tweetyourabortion so . . . there seems to be a correlation here
Japan has a lot of folktales that deal with the practice of "sending away" children. Yokai called the Usutsuki Warashi (pestle drumming child) and Tatari-Mokke (curse frogs) were supposed to be an incarnation of abandoned children. Lafcadio Hearn, in his Glimpses of an Unfamiliar Japan Part 2, also records a story of how two impoverished parents drown six of their children, but then, when times are more prosperous, conceive and keep their seventh child. Then, one night, as the father brings his young son out on a walk, they catch sight of the moon over the river, and the father praises its beauty, only for the son to say that it was like that the other six times he was brought out here and thrown into the river.
@@codygames5415 No. He was brought out just because his father wanted to take a walk. The father didn't expect the same soul to be constantly reincarnating into his children due to his crime of infanticide. It's implied that the child might be holding a grudge against his parents, and thus returned seven times in a row. Some versions have the parents devote the rest of their lives to prayer and good works to make sure no disaster befalls them or their child as punishment for their crimes.
What a bummer being born Japanese! It's not bad enough that parents are so tough on kids they have the highest suicide rate, but now I find that bugs rate higher than children. There really is something wrong, maybe it's Karma that their birth rate is so low!
@@AnneAndersonFoxiepaws Haven't you watched the video? This practice was from 1600-1800. They don't do this today. Today's low birth rate has a lot of other reasons.
"Where this personhood line is drawn depends on the culture. It can be drawn at conception, or at birth, or at your first taste of boba tea." Me, who only just tried boba a week ago: 👁️👄👁️
Makes perfect sense, nothing wrong here, it was the baby's fault coming out in 2 or with the wrong stars in the sky. Birth control? Yuk! What kind of pervert would make his wife not get pregnant?
I think the high childhood mortality rates of most of history really changed the way humans look at our children. I think if you were so likely to have many of the children you conceived not grow up anyway, that people tried not to let themselves get too attached. And people weren't supposed to be utterly devastated by those deaths. I just feel lucky to live today.
This. In Europe, too, infants were seen as little more than a "potential child" with the likelihood that it would not thrive and live like the toss of a coin. People forced themselves not to get too emotionally invested, which seems impossible nowadays, but I guess the trauma of losing multiple children added to the sense of numbness.
In Africa polygny was used in part to ensure that many babies were born as child mortality was high, it is impossible to predict which children wouldn't make it past 5 years. So your logic makes no sense, how could infanticide be used to preempt child mortality? How would a parent be sure that the child being killed wouldn't survive childhood? How parents know that the children they chose to keep would survive childhood? It's unlikely that this practice was used to preempt child mortality. Rather it must have been for economic reasons, too many mouths to feed.
@@hellund2874I don't think it's possible to not be emotionally invested in a child, children need so much from parents to thrive and grow and eventually prosper. I would also say that cold, detached parenting would increase the likelihood of child mortality. Children need parents that are invested to survive into adulthood. I think our ancestors struggled with grief like we do but back then death was much closer to them and something they experienced regularly. When this is the status quo & people are born into societies that dealt with this reality it just becomes a way of life, people had to accept that death is very real and close, they just worked to keep going regardless.
my Dad use to force kids upon my Mom, hoping for Sons, to carry out his family name.. since his Brother was sterile, & his Sisters BOTH got married & changed their names, my Dad saw it as "up to HIM".. NONE of us shoulda been born.. (Mom wound up getting sick & later dying from cancer) Dad kept coming up with girls, so she even had to have a few abortions.. 💁🏼♀ we were treated like absolute & total GARBAGE.. (Mom said "children should b seen & NOT HEARD" & she MEANT it) we were all products of the "ruff-R".. & as luck would have it, ALL of my Dad's grandchildren turned out to b even MORE GIRLS.. (BYE BYE, FAMILY NAME, that's NOTHING to b PROUD of 👋🙄)
A previous neighbor of mine who worked in the field of Biology/taught or studied ,told me of some scientists who worked on nuclear reactors were naturally stressed & every single one of them had daughters ,not sons. Something about being a particularly stressed out person produces females apparently ...
This is why human trafficking is so rampant in China. In the tale you told, they said they “could always have more children later.” That’s exactly what a child trafficker said about abducting children. The parents could always “have more children.” First off, an individual cannot be replaced. Second, experiencing fertility and miscarriages, no another child can NOT always be had.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Japan#People_of_Jewish_descent Early settlements In 1572, Spanish Neapolitan Jews who had converted to Christianity to escape, entered Nagasaki on Black Ships from Portuguese Macau. Remaining in Nagasaki, some of them reverted to Judaism, even reclaiming their family names (notably a Levite). Edo period Between 1848 and 1854, in Naha, Satsuma province, Bernard Jean Bettelheim (physician) resided with his family. He was a Christian Missionary with British citizenship, although born a Hungarian Jew. There is a plaque at Gokokuji Jinja (Naha). In 1861, Pogrom refugees from Russia and Poland moved to the port of Nagasaki; these were the first Jews in Nagasaki since around 1584. In 1867, over one week the Settsu Jewish community was pushed near extinction[clarification needed], disappearing altogether after the Meiji restoration. Another early Jewish settlement was established in the 1880s in Nagasaki, a large Japanese port city opened to foreign trade by the Portuguese. This community was larger than the one in Yokohama, consisting of more than 100 families. It was here that the Beth Israel Synagogue was created in 1894.
This is interesting. I watched a documentary several years back. In Africa in some towns its still taboo to have twins. The twins were considered cursed, and it was believed they would cause bad things to happen to the family if they kept them. A lot though gave birth to the twins dropped them off to a church, or on the side of the road, or at the front door of an orphanage claiming it to be a bad omen. Anyone who kept twins was banished from the town, by their husband, the elders, and by family members. They would then also be raped wherever they lived. Many lived on the outskirts(miles away usually) of town in a mud house they built. They were looked down upon for keeping the twins. In the documentary I watched there was a surviving twin. Her twin brother died in birth. They blamed the surviving twin for the death of the son. Called the infant a murderer and said she gave bad luck that's why the boy died. Both of the twins were usually abandoned in the situation no matter if they were boys or girls. It was sad seeing SO many abandoned twins. An entire orphanage was full of twins abandoned. They couldn't be adopted either as in the towns without a patents last name the child wasn't considered a citizen(if I remember correctly).
Funny yes, but does anyone else notice that the reasoning & beliefs of killing your baby outside the womb, are about identical to why today people feel it is okay to kill her inside their mother's womb? We think this is barbaric for them to do it, but they didn't have such access to cleaner ways to kill their babies as we can, but we do the same thing today, just more faith that "what I don't see can't hurt anyone", more "see no evil, hear no evil". And "it's just a bunch of cells" is often scientifically unknown at best,, and scientifically false at worst. I'm not condemning attacking people who have already killed their own children when very young or early stages of development - I used to support it, unfortunately - but just pointing it out. Belief in reincarnation is the most common reason to justify a killing in womb. The evidence for reincarnation shows we have a nonphysical existance, but reincarnation is one of two explanations. Still - in the same reasoning about reincarnation would make it okay to kill a baby or toddler outside the womb, or kill oneself, if they/you are just going to reincarnate. Nature doesn't make such bad designs though, so I prefer the other explanation of spirit attachment explaining the "evidence for reincarnation", & for other very good reasons as well. I mean would you even risk it?
Honestly as the oldest of seven kids, I couldn’t imagine my parents doing this or having one less sibling. None of us were an accident and my siblings and I are very successful with good jobs. I even gave my parents thousands in cash one year to cover what they would owe for taxes. The elder children always helped take of the younger and the younger helped take care of my parents if they got sick when the elder were at college. Thank goodness we didn’t live during that time or place because I would rather be a mini mom any day than have any sibling mabiki’d. I couldn’t imagine life without them. 🥺❤️
I remember reading a book which told about the history of a little japanese town by it's inhabitants and there were old people speaking of how this used to be a practice there. There was a place where the mother would go to give birth, then she would place a tatami board on top of the baby and sit on top of it. The old guy even said "and latter they were supposed to act like nothing had happened'. I wish I could understand this but I can't
@@Linfamy The book is called: Memories of silk and straw : Self-portrait of small-town Japan, by Junichi Saga. I super recommend it. But it's modern history, though. It was written in the 80's
@@genesisgonzalez1940 Not really given that infanticide and abortion are common in alot of pre modern societies, just that the Japanese made an entire culture out of it.
@@vehx9316 who knows? Fertility its falling all over the world. Its happening to Japan first but could very well be in every country in the future. Mostly due to the rising cost of living.
Imagine being born and your parents are like "little punk ruined our harvest time, back to the spirit world you go" and you get suffocated by a wet paper
"becoming a person came with rights... allowing police to violate them." SMH love how he states the obvious so eloquently *MORE!* *WE NEED MORE OBVIOUS OCTOPUS!!*
In a class about norse mythology, the professor talked about how births of multiples were thought to be the result of multiple sex partners. In one story, the father decided to determine which one was “his” by putting his spear on the floor. Whichever infant touched the spear first got to stay. The rest would be put out.
Most peoples through out time had infanticide one way or another. Children could be a blessing or a curse. Think about all those families in the middle ages who had a bunch of kids, and most of them ended up in monasteries or nunneries. Kids were basically chattel to be used or disposed of. You were a peasant if you had a lot of children to work your farm. Only want a couple of girls to do the household things; but historically boys were cherished. Which is why there are slightly more men in the world (statistically) than women.
“Twins, triplets, and multiples” Me, a twin: Not only would I have been the twin to die in the Giver because I was the lighter one, but my sister and I would have died in ancient Japan.
In vampire knight, vampire hunters only had one kid, if they were pregnant with twins typically the stronger twin devours the weaker one, if both are born, it’s seen as a bad omen
Ikr... I don't even know why they started to think this Mabiki bullshit either. The should have think and having plan before they fck instead of just throwing away innocent lives like those poor babies.
This is a thing in San Francisco. Land is so expensive that they've had to move whole cemeteries multiple times. The movers missed a few bones, and the next land owners will occasionally "notice" the missed bones today.
Edo Japanese people when they kill a silkworm: Tragic, truly we are monstrous and are as animalistic as all other animals... Edo Japanese people when they kill a baby: THROW IT IN THE TRAAAAAAAASH-
@@goldsilvervscrisiscollapse4320 WW2 was a time of national extremists. When all the "Us's" are infallible, the "Them's" are no longer human. A little worrying, when looking at all the extremists in the world at the moment (US, Brazil, etc.)
@@whimsicalstray Yes but even during a time of national extremists, they far outpaced all the other involved nations with what they were doing. “Death before dishonor.”
It was common in Europe, too. I don't want to hear "what did people do before abortion?" They did barbaric stuff like this and will go back to it, too.
My gran, now in 80's. had some elder ladies for neighbours growing up who were local midwifes for the community before the NHS. If baby looked ill, deformed or anything visibly wrong, sick etc , their job was to quickly pinch the babys nose/ cover its mouth. prefrebly before it took its breath or cried till it passed away. They would just tell the mother their baby was sadly stillborn to save further upset. No nicu or help for disabilities so it really was the kindest thing especially in poorest neighbourhoods. Then met and having chat with older man who in his 20's think he said went to Vietnam ( could of been Cambodia). Said he witnessed in the distance a women giving birth in rice fields. She checked gender then drowned it in the field, returned to working. he was really upset and wanted to run over save it but. 1 he would be too late, 2 he had little understanding of their cultures and traditons and how it may impact her, the baby the community. He went on to work in child protection later in life it plays on his mind to this day. So these practises were very common in people still alives life times and still is in some countrie, rural areas. Its just very taboo and unspoken topic.
Well beating 15 to 300 million bros and sisters is still within a realm of possibility. Its just funny to think that you only made it because your swimmer was the fastest or closest. But then someone with deranged eyes snuffs you out cuz the time isnt favorable. oof
"children don't care, they have a favorite parent, too" Imagine telling your spouse after infanticide, "The brat probably wouldn't have liked you, anyway."
Well here in my country, people from the past that is not ready to raise kids leave babies in the forest, then the baby dies and turns into a monster that kills anything in its path just to be with its mother again
I haven't come across a channel that has a great balance of knowledge, history, and humor since I found The Weird History Channel a couple yrs ago. I'm officially intrigued by yours.
This is mortifying and saddening. I can't imagine just leaving a baby to starve and freeze to death, or strangling it till it breaths its last breath, or leaving it helpless out in the cold....All those babies dying brutally....man this makes me so sad ☹️
It's them, this happened from 1600 to late 1800's..... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Japan#People_of_Jewish_descent Early settlements In 1572, Spanish Neapolitan Jews who had converted to Christianity to escape, entered Nagasaki on Black Ships from Portuguese Macau. Remaining in Nagasaki, some of them reverted to Judaism, even reclaiming their family names (notably a Levite). Edo period Between 1848 and 1854, in Naha, Satsuma province, Bernard Jean Bettelheim (physician) resided with his family. He was a Christian Missionary with British citizenship, although born a Hungarian Jew. There is a plaque at Gokokuji Jinja (Naha). In 1861, Pogrom refugees from Russia and Poland moved to the port of Nagasaki; these were the first Jews in Nagasaki since around 1584. In 1867, over one week the Settsu Jewish community was pushed near extinction[clarification needed], disappearing altogether after the Meiji restoration. Another early Jewish settlement was established in the 1880s in Nagasaki, a large Japanese port city opened to foreign trade by the Portuguese. This community was larger than the one in Yokohama, consisting of more than 100 families. It was here that the Beth Israel Synagogue was created in 1894.
Is it just a stereotype though? Not only in Asian countries but all around the world, there are parents that have kids just so they can be taken care of and benefit from them. 😔
Yeah, kids being important is kinda a newer thing. Most cultures would save the mothers over babies, but nowdays people suffer from pro-forced birthers and can't even give their kids the mercy of a fast death. Just recently a child had to be born without kidneys and then die a horrible and slow death because abortion is apparently murder to these lawmakers...
Oh my goodness buddy you’re making my head spin. The way you describe the story is hilarious in the first place but yet so serious in the manner of the words that you choose. I have never heard anybody tell the story like you do. A storyteller and a half I commend you. You keep people on their edge of their seat yes you do. But the choice of your words they just blow me away lol. I am 68 years old and just laughing my head off. But Yep there’s a good story behind this whole thing. You are the bomb
Good morning @@askadoctorifheresyisright4you Neko-san .....buy my hair cut off your sleeve so I'll be for your birthday in a boat with your wife or two of trying to improve my work experience to improve I strive ✨💪
@@carnage4782 If you're requesting funds towards the development of bio-engineered catgirls, I'll gladly contribute if you can prove that it's being worked on for real.
A lot of people from older generations in Asian countries, up until the recent few decades had to go through this and it was traumatising for both siblings and mother of the child. Good god, I'm so glad this isn't common practice anymore.
That has proven false- the Spartans threw in Kaiada cliff only after trials the ones who were voted to have commited the worst crimes like traitors, thieves, murderers (and yes one of the worst considered murder was of children or their own babies for example) ect- the archaiologists have only found adult bones there- also these bones have a huge hole on their heads meaning that they were first killed by the hit of a sharp object at their head and then the dead body would be thrown to the pit as a form of disgrace to the killed person and i guess a warning to the community to what happens if you break some sacred laws- the unwanting children in ancient Hellas were "exposed" meaning just left alone in forests, or some crossroads near cities or outside some temples so that they would be found and adopted - the solution of leaving them outside temples was the best in my opinion, 'cause they would definately raise the child to become part of the temple and a living offering to the glory of the god of this particular temple. They never murdered any child, this was considered to be a great sin and gods would look down upon whoever did this- plus the Erinyes (some fearfull deities with bloody eyes, sharp nails that are full of blood) would hunt a murderer who killed a member of his family for ever, never allowing them to rest and would scream at him all his sins untill they would drive him crazy in order to kill himself - all unwanted newborns were just left exposed. Remember Medea? these kinds of stories or myths were to warn people about such sins - This practise of exposing babies was also taken by the Romans, and this is the base of Romus and Romulus who were exposed and found by a female wolf who nutriced and raised them.
@@rikkukun9487 ... + - Also we Greeks (Hellenic) people, most of us, we love to communicate, talk and write essay for everything, even for a potato and a molecule of air, and that is why we still have so many books and philosophers since 4000 ++ years ago! And maybe that is why all languages and alphabet of western world based on Hellenic language! Also maybe that is why here is Greece established the base of NATURAL JUSTICE system (rights for everyone and everything - they call it also Panpsychism - everything has logic and soul) and how to solve problems in peace, even with other species and forms of life, that system it is also the base of modern justice, however nobody use it properly, probably that is why all the planet sink in the mud of injustice as we all can see. So write and talk as much as you can about every little thing because all are noticeable and worthy.
"Birth control methods were considered dishonourable to the wife." Yikes, so it was considered more honourable to carry the foetus to term, birth the baby and then for her to kill it herself... That checks out tbh. This entire video was both informative and depressing 👁💧👄💧👁
Yeah, had a friend who was pregnant and had her daughter in Japan, the first thing the doctor said after the ultrasound was "It's a girl, are you keeping it?"
@@missblueberry1033 I mean one is un-aliving a baby while it's not sentient and still in the womb and one is actively killing baby while it living and breathing. The latter is way worse but people have make their own decisions so 🤷🏽♀️
"If the umbilical cord was around it's neck, they thought it's fate as an adult was going to be death by hanging so they chose to give it death by parents instead." Damn, they would have killed me if I was born in Japan during that time.
Every culture did this at some point. I'm jewish and i heard stories from survivors of parents abandoning new borns in woods or at neighbors doorsteps. It wasn't because it was a trend to have a smaller family though. It's because they were in pure desperation and often had no choice but to abandon and hope for the best. New borns are hard to travel with and could have put the older children at risk. Plus there was no food and no medicine. A lot of parents saw it as a kindness to just kill their children peacefully rather than let them starve to death or be captured. It's not often talked about because the survivors are so truamatised by it but it's sadly part of history.
@@stevenh8174 Moses mother tried to save him from slaughter. The Pharao ordered all male babies of the Jews to be killed, that’s why Moses was send off to a hopefully better fate. His sister followed the basket until he was safe.
Men's pullout game is trash to begin with. only retarded women would fall for any man saying "my pull out game strong" no its not. Go get a condom you lazy piece of shit.
imagine an older sibling taunting you by showing all the previous bodies you inhabited before the family was ready for you. "That body right there is the fourth time you came early so we just had to send you back again"
Japan makes a lot more sense now. With all the parents abandoning their children in anime, with stories that children have some special connection with the other world. A great deal of knowledge. Thanks a bunch for the video!
Anime and the real world are different. Anime parents abandon their children for plot, aka "fiction". Parents irl, abandon their children for a reason like poverty, neglect, belief, etc.
@@kokonatsu2074 study the phenomenon of people simply going missing in Japan. These are cases where people just abandon all relations and go completely missing and avoid all contact. Parents, young adults, spouses etc do this. This is not an anime only phenomenon. Abandonment is a real strong thing in japan. Why, there are videos on CZcams on this very thing.
@@CosmicValkyrie not only japan though everywhere in every county....at my local , some poor people try to cut connection with old peple or family at their towns, act like disappeared completely.
@@shayeezachevalier649 that’s exactly what I thought of when I heard killing babies so casually used to be a thing in Japan 😭 it actually makes me like the anime a lot more knowing that culture was thought about and put into it 🤔
We sit back and make jokes about boba tea while talking/laughing about kids dying in the old days and ignoring abortion in the meantime. Idk this whole video and comment section makes my skin crawl for some reason. I get Capitol from the Hunger Games vibes.
That awkward moment when I was talking to my mom about how many kids I want when the time comes and this notification pops it's perfect head up when she asks why not more...
Must have been unbelievably painful for the mothers, withstand 9 months in an agonizing state (they probably can’t just stop working during their pregnancy, but then again women in the past not to mention in Japan were not treated nicely or at least respected in general), go through birth giving which can be fatal and then just have to kill off their baby themselves.
Man's out here teaching us uncensored history by making us laugh about cruel events. My only regret is already binging all his videos so having to wait for each release as it graces the sub box! Also... Umibozu mayhaps?
killing your baby was very common in almost every culture, where im from ppl back in the day would usually abandon their baby out in the freezing wilderness if they couldnt take care of them, or just didnt want the kid
@@nidohime6233 Reminds me of the three ladies in witcher 3. How parents will take their children into the woods and tell them to "follow the trail of sweets and cakes, and the ladies will take care of you forever." When pressed, a father you can talk to will explain "Yeah we know what really happens, but my kids are starving and there's a war on. Get rid of one and the rest have enough to eat."
Another little nugget of history my U.S. public schools never taught me. In reality, parents murdering their own children was practiced in other cultures besides Japan. The ancient Spartans would leave "imperfect" babies to die on a hillside. In ancient Rome, I recall that a father had the legal authority to murder any member of his family (this was called "pater familias" or something like that; from my high school history class).
It’s so crazy when you realize that our cultures are tremendously different. We get so angry and so mad at other individuals for believing certain things and here you have an entire culture that pretty much has a brutal way of looking at life but also understandably during that era would be completely acceptable.
That’s all I could think about! Pregnancy is hell, childbirth is hell x1000, and it can leave permanent effects on your body. After all that, you kill the newborn? And just move on? What’s funny is that THIS was considered fine, but contraceptives were considered sinful.
Because they believe that worms and insects they killed are not infant stage, already lived for a long while and grew through hardship hence deserve a respect for its life especially being killed after all their hard work on the agriculture. Fresh bornt infants, on the other hand, yet to develop a sense of self and did nothing of hard work to be there, and if it endangered and ruin the quality of life for the entire family and village, they are to be mabiki-ed. Making a monument? Wasting more resources on something that does not work hard nor contributed anything is kinda pointless. Monument is the appreciation of contribution, so it isn't needed, like the video said, just send erm off the river or buried under the house to send them back to spirit realm.
It happened everywhere in the world. In sparta, if a boy wasn't as strong and healthy as others he would get thrown off of a cliff, even though he was older than a baby.
@@blackswan4486 evil is nothing but a perspective one act might be evil to one but good to another (I read that somewhere and I kinda forgot where I found it lol)
Oh boy. I understand the reasoning and even past moral reasons, as a woman i would be like "hell no did i just suffer for 9 months and then REALLY suffer pushing it out just to send it back?! Im keeping my prize "
@@googane7755 killing a fetus that is still in the womb is VERY different to killing a baby that is not, because the fetus is still technically part of the woman’s body and not an independent being unlike the baby
This has been the case all over the world. I know twins were considered a ban omen in West Africa. Of course there was also Sparta. And abandoning kids to “exposure” was common in Europe through the Middle Ages. It was so common plenty of mythological figures are said to be from abandoned infants (Romulus and Remus, Gilgamesh, Moses, etc)
dont some people still do this? they put their babies in coin lockers and store them there. thats why in japan there a limit to how long you can keep something it a coin locker before you have to change it. theres also a song called 'coin locker baby' by maretu and it was inspired by this.
explain to me what the fuck is that 💀.. coin locker? and is it an actual locker that people just put babies in? just to make them suffer starve and die or?
@@wavvyliz8464 Coin lockers are just regular pay-per-use lockers to temporarily store luggage or other items! Perhaps people have abused the service and abandoned their babies there, so now with a time limit, this will prevent anything from being left unnoticed for too long
Murder solves everything.
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I think that the answer to the question is Umibouzo. The sea priest. The one who demands demanded money from sailors, otherwise they will destroy the ship, killing them in the process. Like a priest! But on sea. I guess that you can't escape taxes nowhere...
Congratulations to all Japanese people alive today! You survived Mabiki 😂😂
'That time I got reincarnated as a 30 second baby in Edo Japan' would be the shortest manga ever
Haha I would like to read that manga 😂
No XD
A two panel manga
PLS 😭😭
Lol
I love how they felt bad for killing silkworms or even random bugs but when it came to children that you suffered 9 months for, they were just like ”aw.. anyways"
I'm sure it wasn't that simple but their fear of bad karma and social disproval was greater
Culture and society dont make sense sometimes
Silkworms bring money, children eat money, especially in the first part of life and forever if is a girl. Unfortunately this could had been the mindset. 😭💔
starlyn yeah japan is a society where it forces you to fit in and don’t stick out too much.
I mean, a lot of the times the people who run around today protesting that "meat is murder" are also the same ones (or at least on the side of) #tweetyourabortion so . . . there seems to be a correlation here
Japan has a lot of folktales that deal with the practice of "sending away" children. Yokai called the Usutsuki Warashi (pestle drumming child) and Tatari-Mokke (curse frogs) were supposed to be an incarnation of abandoned children. Lafcadio Hearn, in his Glimpses of an Unfamiliar Japan Part 2, also records a story of how two impoverished parents drown six of their children, but then, when times are more prosperous, conceive and keep their seventh child. Then, one night, as the father brings his young son out on a walk, they catch sight of the moon over the river, and the father praises its beauty, only for the son to say that it was like that the other six times he was brought out here and thrown into the river.
That is quite depressing
He was brought there a seventh time to die, wasn't he?
@@codygames5415 No. He was brought out just because his father wanted to take a walk. The father didn't expect the same soul to be constantly reincarnating into his children due to his crime of infanticide. It's implied that the child might be holding a grudge against his parents, and thus returned seven times in a row. Some versions have the parents devote the rest of their lives to prayer and good works to make sure no disaster befalls them or their child as punishment for their crimes.
What a bummer being born Japanese! It's not bad enough that parents are so tough on kids they have the highest suicide rate, but now I find that bugs rate higher than children. There really is something wrong, maybe it's Karma that their birth rate is so low!
@@AnneAndersonFoxiepaws Haven't you watched the video? This practice was from 1600-1800. They don't do this today. Today's low birth rate has a lot of other reasons.
"Where this personhood line is drawn depends on the culture. It can be drawn at conception, or at birth, or at your first taste of boba tea."
Me, who only just tried boba a week ago: 👁️👄👁️
Congrats you are now a person.
Me who hasn't ever heard of it🍵😵
@@KonradvonHotzendorf you neeeeed mango Boba tea!
Hows your personhood going?
@@Naharu. I am ten months old. Motor skills developing. Babbling has begun. I will keep you updated 🤔
"How to control population?"
Google : Family planning
Bing:
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@@ogurt-cha5522 lamafaoo?
yeah 69
間引き 😏😏😏
@@tyral0l 😏😏😏
Birth control: dishonorable!
Mabiki: gotta do what you gotta do.
Makes perfect sense, nothing wrong here, it was the baby's fault coming out in 2 or with the wrong stars in the sky. Birth control? Yuk! What kind of pervert would make his wife not get pregnant?
@@krowflin4468 go to the doctor and get some help
@@ifyouseemeeverywherethatme7925 I’m pretty sure it’s sarcasm
Murder is murder.
Gots to see it through my boi gots to see it through
I think the high childhood mortality rates of most of history really changed the way humans look at our children. I think if you were so likely to have many of the children you conceived not grow up anyway, that people tried not to let themselves get too attached. And people weren't supposed to be utterly devastated by those deaths. I just feel lucky to live today.
And that your mother didn't abort you (aka murder you in the womb).
If I remember correctly from history England haven't seen kids as needed to be protected for a long time too
This. In Europe, too, infants were seen as little more than a "potential child" with the likelihood that it would not thrive and live like the toss of a coin. People forced themselves not to get too emotionally invested, which seems impossible nowadays, but I guess the trauma of losing multiple children added to the sense of numbness.
In Africa polygny was used in part to ensure that many babies were born as child mortality was high, it is impossible to predict which children wouldn't make it past 5 years. So your logic makes no sense, how could infanticide be used to preempt child mortality? How would a parent be sure that the child being killed wouldn't survive childhood? How parents know that the children they chose to keep would survive childhood?
It's unlikely that this practice was used to preempt child mortality. Rather it must have been for economic reasons, too many mouths to feed.
@@hellund2874I don't think it's possible to not be emotionally invested in a child, children need so much from parents to thrive and grow and eventually prosper.
I would also say that cold, detached parenting would increase the likelihood of child mortality. Children need parents that are invested to survive into adulthood.
I think our ancestors struggled with grief like we do but back then death was much closer to them and something they experienced regularly. When this is the status quo & people are born into societies that dealt with this reality it just becomes a way of life, people had to accept that death is very real and close, they just worked to keep going regardless.
my Dad use to force kids upon my Mom, hoping for Sons, to carry out his family name.. since his Brother was sterile, & his Sisters BOTH got married & changed their names, my Dad saw it as "up to HIM".. NONE of us shoulda been born.. (Mom wound up getting sick & later dying from cancer) Dad kept coming up with girls, so she even had to have a few abortions.. 💁🏼♀ we were treated like absolute & total GARBAGE.. (Mom said "children should b seen & NOT HEARD" & she MEANT it) we were all products of the "ruff-R".. & as luck would have it, ALL of my Dad's grandchildren turned out to b even MORE GIRLS.. (BYE BYE, FAMILY NAME, that's NOTHING to b PROUD of 👋🙄)
Proud of you for making it through that and coming out stronger, that sounds like a horrible situation to have been in
Im so sorry. It's honestly so twisted
I'm sorry you and your sisters went through that.
A previous neighbor of mine who worked in the field of Biology/taught or studied ,told me of some scientists who worked on nuclear reactors were naturally stressed & every single one of them had daughters ,not sons. Something about being a particularly stressed out person produces females apparently ...
Good Lord!
If you don't kill the baby, there's 5% chance the baby will be the main character. Similar to one anime...
He might kill demons to get get his body back
Dororo? 😂
Krishna
Well the protagonists parents usually died so it was a preventive measure.
Is that a Hyakkimaru reference i see?
This is why human trafficking is so rampant in China. In the tale you told, they said they “could always have more children later.” That’s exactly what a child trafficker said about abducting children. The parents could always “have more children.” First off, an individual cannot be replaced. Second, experiencing fertility and miscarriages, no another child can NOT always be had.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Japan#People_of_Jewish_descent
Early settlements
In 1572, Spanish Neapolitan Jews who had converted to Christianity to escape, entered Nagasaki on Black Ships from Portuguese Macau. Remaining in Nagasaki, some of them reverted to Judaism, even reclaiming their family names (notably a Levite).
Edo period
Between 1848 and 1854, in Naha, Satsuma province, Bernard Jean Bettelheim (physician) resided with his family. He was a Christian Missionary with British citizenship, although born a Hungarian Jew. There is a plaque at Gokokuji Jinja (Naha).
In 1861, Pogrom refugees from Russia and Poland moved to the port of Nagasaki; these were the first Jews in Nagasaki since around 1584.
In 1867, over one week the Settsu Jewish community was pushed near extinction[clarification needed], disappearing altogether after the Meiji restoration.
Another early Jewish settlement was established in the 1880s in Nagasaki, a large Japanese port city opened to foreign trade by the Portuguese. This community was larger than the one in Yokohama, consisting of more than 100 families. It was here that the Beth Israel Synagogue was created in 1894.
This is interesting.
I watched a documentary several years back.
In Africa in some towns its still taboo to have twins. The twins were considered cursed, and it was believed they would cause bad things to happen to the family if they kept them. A lot though gave birth to the twins dropped them off to a church, or on the side of the road, or at the front door of an orphanage claiming it to be a bad omen. Anyone who kept twins was banished from the town, by their husband, the elders, and by family members. They would then also be raped wherever they lived. Many lived on the outskirts(miles away usually) of town in a mud house they built.
They were looked down upon for keeping the twins. In the documentary I watched there was a surviving twin. Her twin brother died in birth. They blamed the surviving twin for the death of the son. Called the infant a murderer and said she gave bad luck that's why the boy died. Both of the twins were usually abandoned in the situation no matter if they were boys or girls.
It was sad seeing SO many abandoned twins. An entire orphanage was full of twins abandoned. They couldn't be adopted either as in the towns without a patents last name the child wasn't considered a citizen(if I remember correctly).
which countries are these towns in? I only know of one but its more of an ethnic group
Well that’s just great, I’m a twin... gulp! 😳
In Korea, twins are seen as bad omen too
Humans are obnoxiously worse creatures created by nature or god or both depends on belief.
Pl😊😊n
“Looks like you’re going back to the sprit world, Jimbo.”
I can't stop laughing. Thank you.
Everything is fun and game until the midwife prepare the boiled water
@@sharkronical todoroki origins
Funny yes, but does anyone else notice that the reasoning & beliefs of killing your baby outside the womb, are about identical to why today people feel it is okay to kill her inside their mother's womb?
We think this is barbaric for them to do it, but they didn't have such access to cleaner ways to kill their babies as we can, but we do the same thing today, just more faith that "what I don't see can't hurt anyone", more "see no evil, hear no evil".
And "it's just a bunch of cells" is often scientifically unknown at best,, and scientifically false at worst.
I'm not condemning attacking people who have already killed their own children when very young or early stages of development - I used to support it, unfortunately - but just pointing it out.
Belief in reincarnation is the most common reason to justify a killing in womb. The evidence for reincarnation shows we have a nonphysical existance, but reincarnation is one of two explanations.
Still - in the same reasoning about reincarnation would make it okay to kill a baby or toddler outside the womb, or kill oneself, if they/you are just going to reincarnate.
Nature doesn't make such bad designs though, so I prefer the other explanation of spirit attachment explaining the "evidence for reincarnation", & for other very good reasons as well. I mean would you even risk it?
@@pebblepod30 Dude, what makes you think every religion or people treats pregnancies the same way? In my religion, nothing is alive until it breathes.
"You had a good run, kiddo"
"Mum I've been alive for 30 seconds"
They're still alive in the womb.
@@lunalee3021 That means the baby lived for 9 month ish and 30 seconds, that is a good run tbh
Baby be like: " wooho speedrun did i get first place yet?"
@@muhammadriskyfajar4947 I think there are better speedruns which is almost sad to think about.
@@Oreo-vh7rk OH YEAH THATS TRUE I FEEL RETARDED NOT KNOWING THAT LMAO
Honestly as the oldest of seven kids, I couldn’t imagine my parents doing this or having one less sibling. None of us were an accident and my siblings and I are very successful with good jobs. I even gave my parents thousands in cash one year to cover what they would owe for taxes. The elder children always helped take of the younger and the younger helped take care of my parents if they got sick when the elder were at college. Thank goodness we didn’t live during that time or place because I would rather be a mini mom any day than have any sibling mabiki’d. I couldn’t imagine life without them. 🥺❤️
I remember reading a book which told about the history of a little japanese town by it's inhabitants and there were old people speaking of how this used to be a practice there. There was a place where the mother would go to give birth, then she would place a tatami board on top of the baby and sit on top of it. The old guy even said "and latter they were supposed to act like nothing had happened'. I wish I could understand this but I can't
Wow o.o
@@Linfamy The book is called: Memories of silk and straw : Self-portrait of small-town Japan, by Junichi Saga. I super recommend it. But it's modern history, though. It was written in the 80's
This piece of history is incredibly ironic, given the fact that modern Japan has the problem of too few babies.
Universe karma???
@@genesisgonzalez1940 Not really given that infanticide and abortion are common in alot of pre modern societies, just that the Japanese made an entire culture out of it.
@@vehx9316 who knows? Fertility its falling all over the world. Its happening to Japan first but could very well be in every country in the future. Mostly due to the rising cost of living.
@@cantdecide6598 Yes, to be fair it seems that it comes from the cost of living, it's what I heard from interviews on the subject
Too much mabiki
Imagine being born and your parents are like "little punk ruined our harvest time, back to the spirit world you go" and you get suffocated by a wet paper
I wish they did that rather than blaming me for being alive :)
@@aaiemee same-
@@aaiemee im 14 and this is deep
@@aaiemee holy shet relatable
💔🥺
"becoming a person came with rights... allowing police to violate them." SMH love how he states the obvious so eloquently *MORE!* *WE NEED MORE OBVIOUS OCTOPUS!!*
In a class about norse mythology, the professor talked about how births of multiples were thought to be the result of multiple sex partners. In one story, the father decided to determine which one was “his” by putting his spear on the floor. Whichever infant touched the spear first got to stay. The rest would be put out.
Most peoples through out time had infanticide one way or another. Children could be a blessing or a curse. Think about all those families in the middle ages who had a bunch of kids, and most of them ended up in monasteries or nunneries. Kids were basically chattel to be used or disposed of. You were a peasant if you had a lot of children to work your farm. Only want a couple of girls to do the household things; but historically boys were cherished. Which is why there are slightly more men in the world (statistically) than women.
@@jolenetheredhead9761Still continues but it has reduced quiet a lot n I am happy otherwise skewed genders would have led another worldwar to occur.😊
@@jolenetheredhead9761 there are more women in the world than men
Sounds like how you choose a puppy out of a litter.
Wtf
My pregnancies have been so bad and miserable. I can't imagine losing my children after being so miserable for 9 months.
Me neither
"It's payback time."
Thank you for reminding me to contact my doc about a hysterectomy
Remember that time you made me puke? Yeah. Me too.
Baby: 👁️👄👁️ ☠️
I understand
“Twins, triplets, and multiples”
Me, a twin: Not only would I have been the twin to die in the Giver because I was the lighter one, but my sister and I would have died in ancient Japan.
Oh my god this is the first time I've seen a The Giver reference online
@@eggsandyolks Same oh mygodh
The Giver is scary asf for twins
In vampire knight, vampire hunters only had one kid, if they were pregnant with twins typically the stronger twin devours the weaker one, if both are born, it’s seen as a bad omen
A Giver reference? How!?
This is just so sad, I can't imagine leaving my baby to just cry in a room or do either of the other things, I'd lose my mind 💔😢
That’s because of the hormones your body releases in order to care for the child
I know, if you're going to murder your offspring at least make it quick
Ikr... I don't even know why they started to think this Mabiki bullshit either. The should have think and having plan before they fck instead of just throwing away innocent lives like those poor babies.
3:35. Imagine redecorating the floors in your house and you find a baby skeleton.
This is a thing in San Francisco. Land is so expensive that they've had to move whole cemeteries multiple times. The movers missed a few bones, and the next land owners will occasionally "notice" the missed bones today.
Imagine a baby was abandoned.. And someone rescued and raised him. Then he became a great samurai and one day came back to the village
That's kinda like Japanese Moses in a way ahaha
Hyakkimaru from Dororo
🤣🤣
@@juniorsr197 woowww what episode are you now? I finished it but I watch it againn
The samurai: where are you mom, I just wanna "talk"
“Babies were terrible at fighting back” Got me laughing.
I do not find it amusing, it's true. They don't vote either.
@@jaimeduncan6167 bro... Kek sometimes man
Its funny but when you think about it. Its just sad. But ey think positive. But still is sad.
They’re lazy. They don’t work. They eat and sleep all day. Total freeloaders.
Were? Past tense???
Infanticide has always been common everywhere in the world. It comes and goes everywhere throughout the world and always has.
“Sounds like a high number until you have kids,” love that line, wow…
"Babies are terrible at fighting back"
Me: You don't say. . .
lol
lol (2)
lol(3)
Totally had no idea
Wow I was thinking about telling my newborn brother to fight with the neighbour's dog
Edo Japanese people when they kill a silkworm: Tragic, truly we are monstrous and are as animalistic as all other animals...
Edo Japanese people when they kill a baby: THROW IT IN THE TRAAAAAAAASH-
More like Japan 50 yrs after edo period: we will free them all through killing!
Edit: approx the time the emperor decided WW2 in Asia is a good idea
Know your place TRASH
This kind of behavior probably explains their outlook on human life during WW2 and the slaughter of Chinese civilians
@@goldsilvervscrisiscollapse4320 WW2 was a time of national extremists. When all the "Us's" are infallible, the "Them's" are no longer human. A little worrying, when looking at all the extremists in the world at the moment (US, Brazil, etc.)
@@whimsicalstray Yes but even during a time of national extremists, they far outpaced all the other involved nations with what they were doing. “Death before dishonor.”
It was common in Europe, too. I don't want to hear "what did people do before abortion?" They did barbaric stuff like this and will go back to it, too.
Killing a child to stay “in fashion.” Has gotta be on the most disgusting things I’ve ever heard.
Out from the womb and into the tomb
Oh no...
Dark💀
I hate the fact that they killed babies. Poor kids.
But your comment cracked me up 🤣
Lol no
Any different than America today? People are killing their babies by the thousands….it’s common practice.
"But make them come to your 10th son's haircutting ceremony...
they may just start wishing that you had murdered the little punk"
It killed me omg
For some people it's when the child start to throw tantrums in public places.
omg I read this right as he said it lol
LMAO XD
“It killed me omg”
That’s the idea
LMAO
In general, infanticide was much more common in history than some would like to think. 😬
My gran, now in 80's. had some elder ladies for neighbours growing up who were local midwifes for the community before the NHS. If baby looked ill, deformed or anything visibly wrong, sick etc , their job was to quickly pinch the babys nose/ cover its mouth. prefrebly before it took its breath or cried till it passed away. They would just tell the mother their baby was sadly stillborn to save further upset. No nicu or help for disabilities so it really was the kindest thing especially in poorest neighbourhoods.
Then met and having chat with older man who in his 20's think he said went to Vietnam ( could of been Cambodia). Said he witnessed in the distance a women giving birth in rice fields. She checked gender then drowned it in the field, returned to working. he was really upset and wanted to run over save it but. 1 he would be too late, 2 he had little understanding of their cultures and traditons and how it may impact her, the baby the community. He went on to work in child protection later in life it plays on his mind to this day. So these practises were very common in people still alives life times and still is in some countrie, rural areas. Its just very taboo and unspoken topic.
I died at the moment he said, "i know, you work your entire life to become rich and what do you get? 20 babies on your porch!"
Oh no, I have killed a viewer.
@@Linfamy 😆😆
Lollll 🤣🤣
@@Linfamy you mabikid a fan
Fuvk 😪
Imagine winning the lottery of life just for your parents to say
”no, not that one”
I would die
Well beating 15 to 300 million bros and sisters is still within a realm of possibility. Its just funny to think that you only made it because your swimmer was the fastest or closest. But then someone with deranged eyes snuffs you out cuz the time isnt favorable. oof
One hour one life ruined my life.
@@Jay_Kay666 I can’t tell you how many times my mom has left me to die because she doesn’t want a baby :/ so annoying
@@Andytlp
Sperm is just fertilizer that determines sex, we weren’t the sperm, we are the mothers egg.
"children don't care, they have a favorite parent, too" Imagine telling your spouse after infanticide, "The brat probably wouldn't have liked you, anyway."
"The Japanese actually cherished life."
ya know. Unless little Timmy was born too close to his older siblings
"Babies were terrible at fighting back"
I-
He's not wrong...
I’m laughing so hard
Unless it's another baby.
Well here in my country, people from the past that is not ready to raise kids leave babies in the forest, then the baby dies and turns into a monster that kills anything in its path just to be with its mother again
@@giyuutapioca845 interesting...
Heartbreaking, but nice to learn about all of these topics that usually don't come up when discussing history of japan.
Definitely, would probably have never heard of this outside this channel
Everybody tried to hide and bury their trash.
There's a lot of dark japanese history that isn't discussed
You should hear about unit 731 and the murder and experiments Japan did in WWll
Laughs in ww2 warcrimes they even created a CZcams bot to deny those warCrimes lmfaoooooo
I haven't come across a channel that has a great balance of knowledge, history, and humor since I found The Weird History Channel a couple yrs ago. I'm officially intrigued by yours.
This is mortifying and saddening. I can't imagine just leaving a baby to starve and freeze to death, or strangling it till it breaths its last breath, or leaving it helpless out in the cold....All those babies dying brutally....man this makes me so sad ☹️
Wait untill you find out about abortion..
It's them, this happened from 1600 to late 1800's.....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Japan#People_of_Jewish_descent
Early settlements
In 1572, Spanish Neapolitan Jews who had converted to Christianity to escape, entered Nagasaki on Black Ships from Portuguese Macau. Remaining in Nagasaki, some of them reverted to Judaism, even reclaiming their family names (notably a Levite).
Edo period
Between 1848 and 1854, in Naha, Satsuma province, Bernard Jean Bettelheim (physician) resided with his family. He was a Christian Missionary with British citizenship, although born a Hungarian Jew. There is a plaque at Gokokuji Jinja (Naha).
In 1861, Pogrom refugees from Russia and Poland moved to the port of Nagasaki; these were the first Jews in Nagasaki since around 1584.
In 1867, over one week the Settsu Jewish community was pushed near extinction[clarification needed], disappearing altogether after the Meiji restoration.
Another early Jewish settlement was established in the 1880s in Nagasaki, a large Japanese port city opened to foreign trade by the Portuguese. This community was larger than the one in Yokohama, consisting of more than 100 families. It was here that the Beth Israel Synagogue was created in 1894.
"Children are investments" perfectly describes a stereotypical Asian family
I'm not even asian, but just for that, I want to go away without a word
Oh yes !
true! #proud2beasian /j
Yep 💯
Is it just a stereotype though? Not only in Asian countries but all around the world, there are parents that have kids just so they can be taken care of and benefit from them. 😔
I just wanted to say literally almost every culture had this practice at one point in history.
Yeah, kids being important is kinda a newer thing. Most cultures would save the mothers over babies, but nowdays people suffer from pro-forced birthers and can't even give their kids the mercy of a fast death. Just recently a child had to be born without kidneys and then die a horrible and slow death because abortion is apparently murder to these lawmakers...
No
@@yoanadimitrova8760Yes, all cultures people have genocided their offsprings in different ways .
@@icequeen9417 no...
@@yoanadimitrova8760could you provide an example of a culture that didn’t?
Oh my goodness buddy you’re making my head spin. The way you describe the story is hilarious in the first place but yet so serious in the manner of the words that you choose. I have never heard anybody tell the story like you do. A storyteller and a half I commend you. You keep people on their edge of their seat yes you do. But the choice of your words they just blow me away lol. I am 68 years old and just laughing my head off. But Yep there’s a good story behind this whole thing. You are the bomb
Japan then: there's too many of us, we need to stop having babies
Japan now: this generation won't give us more babies!!😡
Supply and demand
@@askadoctorifheresyisright4you 😂😂😂😂
Still waiting on bioengineers to give us catgirls.
Good morning @@askadoctorifheresyisright4you Neko-san .....buy my hair cut off your sleeve so I'll be for your birthday in a boat with your wife or two of trying to improve my work experience to improve I strive ✨💪
@@carnage4782 If you're requesting funds towards the development of bio-engineered catgirls, I'll gladly contribute if you can prove that it's being worked on for real.
Imagine one kid surviving and coming for revenge after finding out the truth
it wasn't a secret and a lot were left out for others to adopt so i'm sure they knew and didn't all die.
Dororo?
Thatd be a great movie plot
Hyakkimaru from dororo did that
There is an anime about this, it's called Dororo.
A lot of people from older generations in Asian countries, up until the recent few decades had to go through this and it was traumatising for both siblings and mother of the child. Good god, I'm so glad this isn't common practice anymore.
Am i supposed to cry or laugh? This narration is just hilarious
Spartans who threw babies off cliffs: “a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary!”
That has proven false- the Spartans threw in Kaiada cliff only after trials the ones who were voted to have commited the worst crimes like traitors, thieves, murderers (and yes one of the worst considered murder was of children or their own babies for example) ect- the archaiologists have only found adult bones there- also these bones have a huge hole on their heads meaning that they were first killed by the hit of a sharp object at their head and then the dead body would be thrown to the pit as a form of disgrace to the killed person and i guess a warning to the community to what happens if you break some sacred laws- the unwanting children in ancient Hellas were "exposed" meaning just left alone in forests, or some crossroads near cities or outside some temples so that they would be found and adopted - the solution of leaving them outside temples was the best in my opinion, 'cause they would definately raise the child to become part of the temple and a living offering to the glory of the god of this particular temple. They never murdered any child, this was considered to be a great sin and gods would look down upon whoever did this- plus the Erinyes (some fearfull deities with bloody eyes, sharp nails that are full of blood) would hunt a murderer who killed a member of his family for ever, never allowing them to rest and would scream at him all his sins untill they would drive him crazy in order to kill himself - all unwanted newborns were just left exposed. Remember Medea? these kinds of stories or myths were to warn people about such sins - This practise of exposing babies was also taken by the Romans, and this is the base of Romus and Romulus who were exposed and found by a female wolf who nutriced and raised them.
Bro no one asked for a whole entire essay☠️
@@rikkukun9487 I give it anyway because historical mistakes are bad
Well they weeded out anyone they saw as weak
@@rikkukun9487 ... + - Also we Greeks (Hellenic) people, most of us, we love to communicate, talk and write essay for everything, even for a potato and a molecule of air, and that is why we still have so many books and philosophers since 4000 ++ years ago! And maybe that is why all languages and alphabet of western world based on Hellenic language! Also maybe that is why here is Greece established the base of NATURAL JUSTICE system (rights for everyone and everything - they call it also Panpsychism - everything has logic and soul) and how to solve problems in peace, even with other species and forms of life, that system it is also the base of modern justice, however nobody use it
properly, probably that is why all the planet sink in the mud of injustice as we all can see. So write and talk as much as you can about every little thing because all are noticeable and worthy.
"Birth control methods were considered dishonourable to the wife." Yikes, so it was considered more honourable to carry the foetus to term, birth the baby and then for her to kill it herself... That checks out tbh.
This entire video was both informative and depressing 👁💧👄💧👁
I agree
Probably something something to do with the wife proving her fertility and offspring health?
@Luny The Anxious Luna a fetus is a developing baby though, just as awful in my opinion
a fetus is also as alive as a plant before it's born
@Luny The Anxious Luna it's basically the same thing
As an asian I remember growing up hearing about a time where drowning newborns wasn’t uncommon…
It wasn’t unusual in China until VERY recently! Drowning newborn daughters, that is….
@@vetsai8199 that’s what my family said, glad I wasn’t born there
Yeah, had a friend who was pregnant and had her daughter in Japan, the first thing the doctor said after the ultrasound was "It's a girl, are you keeping it?"
"Abortion tools were hard to get but everyone had hands" it's so fucked up but I laughed 😭😭😭
😭😭😭💀💀
Honestly I don't see a difference between abortion and killing the baby after it is born, murder is murder
@@missblueberry1033 okay? I didn't ask
@@missblueberry1033 No ✨
@@missblueberry1033 I mean one is un-aliving a baby while it's not sentient and still in the womb and one is actively killing baby while it living and breathing. The latter is way worse but people have make their own decisions so 🤷🏽♀️
"If the umbilical cord was around it's neck, they thought it's fate as an adult was going to be death by hanging so they chose to give it death by parents instead." Damn, they would have killed me if I was born in Japan during that time.
Maybe you were
I would have just simply died: cesarean.
Same
@@BlackSakura33 I don't believe in past lives.
@Kugelfrosch Damn life really hated u lol
This happened in every human society, not just Japan. It was considered normal. The only question is how far back you have to go to find it.
8:27 I laughed out loud I can't- 💀
Every culture did this at some point. I'm jewish and i heard stories from survivors of parents abandoning new borns in woods or at neighbors doorsteps. It wasn't because it was a trend to have a smaller family though. It's because they were in pure desperation and often had no choice but to abandon and hope for the best. New borns are hard to travel with and could have put the older children at risk. Plus there was no food and no medicine. A lot of parents saw it as a kindness to just kill their children peacefully rather than let them starve to death or be captured. It's not often talked about because the survivors are so truamatised by it but it's sadly part of history.
Euthanasia is not equivalent to murder for a bigger inheritance.
Moses put in the river was like mabiki.
@@stevenh8174 Moses mother tried to save him from slaughter. The Pharao ordered all male babies of the Jews to be killed, that’s why Moses was send off to a hopefully better fate. His sister followed the basket until he was safe.
Cough cough China cough cough one child policy cough
@@CanonOverseer more like only male child policy
For a country that can unsheathe their katanas at high speeds, their pull out game is weak
Lol
Woah
Men's pullout game is trash to begin with. only retarded women would fall for any man saying "my pull out game strong" no its not. Go get a condom you lazy piece of shit.
They also have tiny penises
🤣🤣🤣
imagine an older sibling taunting you by showing all the previous bodies you inhabited before the family was ready for you. "That body right there is the fourth time you came early so we just had to send you back again"
It's incredible you manage to discuss this sad topic with such irony, I love your videos
Japan makes a lot more sense now. With all the parents abandoning their children in anime, with stories that children have some special connection with the other world. A great deal of knowledge. Thanks a bunch for the video!
Anime and the real world are different. Anime parents abandon their children for plot, aka "fiction". Parents irl, abandon their children for a reason like poverty, neglect, belief, etc.
@@kokonatsu2074 Right we need to start modernizing abandoning children more 🤔
you need to go outside
@@kokonatsu2074 study the phenomenon of people simply going missing in Japan. These are cases where people just abandon all relations and go completely missing and avoid all contact. Parents, young adults, spouses etc do this. This is not an anime only phenomenon. Abandonment is a real strong thing in japan. Why, there are videos on CZcams on this very thing.
@@CosmicValkyrie not only japan though everywhere in every county....at my local , some poor people try to cut connection with old peple or family at their towns, act like disappeared completely.
Japan: "What's 17 more years? I can always start again, make another kid."
Bro I see you EVERYWHERE
this will probably blow
I see you are also a man of culture
hello again
Why are you everywhere
"Nowadays, baby killing is generally frowned upon" what a way to open a video
"Children born with teeth are devil children."
Me, born with teeth: oh..
"left the baby alone on its own"
so thats where shonen protagonists come from?
You were mostly likely just making a joke, but holy shit you may be onto something 👁👄👁
Yes, then they get isekai'd.
The anime that fits this statement the most: Dororo💀👍
So they left a bad omen behind and so he became that bad omen that brought upon.
@@shayeezachevalier649 that’s exactly what I thought of when I heard killing babies so casually used to be a thing in Japan 😭 it actually makes me like the anime a lot more knowing that culture was thought about and put into it 🤔
"Hey Joe our son died"
"OH NOOOO I KILLED I BUG I WILL NEVER MENTALLY RECOVER FROM IT"
That’s vegan philosophy in a nutshell.
@@myrtle1234 Meat eaters be like: I don't care about either of them
Mankind is cruel asf and yet we think we deserve happiness.
@@angela_merkeI sais “meat eaters” as if we aren’t a BIG majority of the whole human population
@@zaire2gzz Yes you are. What else do you expect me to call people who eat meat? Carnivores?
I was not a real person until my first sip of boba tea.
Neither was I.
If I have never had tapioca boba tea, only the kind with nata de coco, does that mean I need to get or make some genuine boba tea to count? 🤯
I suppose I'm just a life then, not a person.
We sit back and make jokes about boba tea while talking/laughing about kids dying in the old days and ignoring abortion in the meantime. Idk this whole video and comment section makes my skin crawl for some reason. I get Capitol from the Hunger Games vibes.
@@lunalee3021 same
I was definitely not a person before my first taste of boba tea
Exactly 👍
I love the idea of “keep” or “send it back” it’s hilarious in concept. Crazy
Japan's efficiency at its finest: From Womb to Tomb in 30 Seconds
Genius
sounds like an ad for murder weapons
I can see this being the title of a documentary 😂😂
Bro what-
That awkward moment when I was talking to my mom about how many kids I want when the time comes and this notification pops it's perfect head up when she asks why not more...
👀
Reading this makes me wanna cringe
@@NagoBust why? can you explain please?
@@NagoBust k
K
Must have been unbelievably painful for the mothers, withstand 9 months in an agonizing state (they probably can’t just stop working during their pregnancy, but then again women in the past not to mention in Japan were not treated nicely or at least respected in general), go through birth giving which can be fatal and then just have to kill off their baby themselves.
All women used to be pregnant almost all the time back in the day
unwanted baby is born in ancient japan:
Everyone: RETURN TO SENDER
Man's out here teaching us uncensored history by making us laugh about cruel events. My only regret is already binging all his videos so having to wait for each release as it graces the sub box!
Also... Umibozu mayhaps?
That's a lot of vids to binge o.o
@@Linfamy some of us are very bored
@@Linfamy When the content is top-tier the binge is easy, what can I say? 🤷♂️
killing your baby was very common in almost every culture, where im from ppl back in the day would usually abandon their baby out in the freezing wilderness if they couldnt take care of them, or just didnt want the kid
Sweeden i take it?
@@EmilReiko hell no, Iceland
That is why orphans found by people are so common in fairytales.
@@nidohime6233 Reminds me of the three ladies in witcher 3. How parents will take their children into the woods and tell them to "follow the trail of sweets and cakes, and the ladies will take care of you forever." When pressed, a father you can talk to will explain "Yeah we know what really happens, but my kids are starving and there's a war on. Get rid of one and the rest have enough to eat."
Probably not in the Philippines. Families have like more than 10 children back in the day.
Another little nugget of history my U.S. public schools never taught me. In reality, parents murdering their own children was practiced in other cultures besides Japan. The ancient Spartans would leave "imperfect" babies to die on a hillside. In ancient Rome, I recall that a father had the legal authority to murder any member of his family (this was called "pater familias" or something like that; from my high school history class).
It’s so crazy when you realize that our cultures are tremendously different. We get so angry and so mad at other individuals for believing certain things and here you have an entire culture that pretty much has a brutal way of looking at life but also understandably during that era would be completely acceptable.
"get ready to get your ass mabiki'd"
best comeback *ever*
Ikr
I died 😵🤣
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Imagine the pain of enduring 9 months of labour and having to give birth to a baby, only to kill it
Imagine the pain of living without TikToc and CZcams...
@•Cherry Creamz• imagine eat something
That’s all I could think about! Pregnancy is hell, childbirth is hell x1000, and it can leave permanent effects on your body. After all that, you kill the newborn? And just move on? What’s funny is that THIS was considered fine, but contraceptives were considered sinful.
Imagine actually having contraceptives... People coming here have even a basic knowledge of history, it is so fascinating.
Welcome to China a few years ago
Comment section did not disappoint 😂😂😂
if you make language elaborate enough, people can justify anything, and it may sound good on paper
4:47 bro imagine that even worms get a monument but your little refunded self gets nothing for remembrance
*“little refunded self”*
you can’t just drop “little refunded self” on us and go about your day tf???
Lmfao
Right?!?! At least a monument you prick parents
Because they believe that worms and insects they killed are not infant stage, already lived for a long while and grew through hardship hence deserve a respect for its life especially being killed after all their hard work on the agriculture. Fresh bornt infants, on the other hand, yet to develop a sense of self and did nothing of hard work to be there, and if it endangered and ruin the quality of life for the entire family and village, they are to be mabiki-ed. Making a monument? Wasting more resources on something that does not work hard nor contributed anything is kinda pointless. Monument is the appreciation of contribution, so it isn't needed, like the video said, just send erm off the river or buried under the house to send them back to spirit realm.
It happened everywhere in the world. In sparta, if a boy wasn't as strong and healthy as others he would get thrown off of a cliff, even though he was older than a baby.
There are evil people everywhere
this is sparta
They did this at birth with boys and girls, if they weren't healthy off the cliff
It wasn’t true
@@blackswan4486 evil is nothing but a perspective one act might be evil to one but good to another (I read that somewhere and I kinda forgot where I found it lol)
Oh boy. I understand the reasoning and even past moral reasons, as a woman i would be like "hell no did i just suffer for 9 months and then REALLY suffer pushing it out just to send it back?! Im keeping my prize "
Your sense of humor is amazing! Such a morbid topic and still I chuckled many times.
"How did you die?"
"Got womb evicted and life booted."
"Oh. Thats deep."
OH MY GO--
🤣 Why did I laugh. That's messed up.
Spawnkilled
Spawning was bugged.
“Nowadays baby killing is generally frowned upon”
*the generally is very concerning*
Abortion is still a contentious issue
@@googane7755 that’s fetus killing, not baby killing
@@aliskk8 And some would argue that there is no distinction between the two hence my point.
@@googane7755 killing a fetus that is still in the womb is VERY different to killing a baby that is not, because the fetus is still technically part of the woman’s body and not an independent being unlike the baby
@@aliskk8 Ahh there it finally is
I heard your outrageous, dark humor and subscribed immediately!
This has been the case all over the world. I know twins were considered a ban omen in West Africa. Of course there was also Sparta. And abandoning kids to “exposure” was common in Europe through the Middle Ages. It was so common plenty of mythological figures are said to be from abandoned infants (Romulus and Remus, Gilgamesh, Moses, etc)
So that's why Tanjiro's family lived in the mountains away from everything and everybody! People looked at them like they stank cause they had 6 kids!
I guess that's why Michael Jackson had a sweet little visit to the family...🙂
bruhhh 💀
I think the timeline in demonslayer is around the meiji restoration period tho?
@@goodstuff6006 taisho period
Bruh. They didnt live in edo period
Linfamy: But everyone had hands
Me: And apparently they were truly rated E for everyone
3:52
Bye bye baby
Those poor women that had to carry the baby for 9 months but the whole village think its an unlucky baby
"It seems like a high number... until you have kids."
Ben Shapiro: "At what stage do you believe life begins?"
Me: "At the first taste of boba tea"
i never had boba tea, guess im not a person.
Political figure detected! Political arguement conmencing in 3...2....
Tempted to like this comment but it has 69 likes. Im no monster
@@sheltonray5017 not trying to be political or anything..... but oranges kinda suck.
@@Otgel oramgs
dont some people still do this? they put their babies in coin lockers and store them there. thats why in japan there a limit to how long you can keep something it a coin locker before you have to change it. theres also a song called 'coin locker baby' by maretu and it was inspired by this.
That song is a banger but got damn it's depressing
There's also a book about the phenomenon by the same name. It's by the same person who wrote In The Miso Soup.
explain to me what the fuck is that 💀.. coin locker? and is it an actual locker that people just put babies in? just to make them suffer starve and die or?
@@wavvyliz8464
Coin lockers are just regular pay-per-use lockers to temporarily store luggage or other items!
Perhaps people have abused the service and abandoned their babies there, so now with a time limit, this will prevent anything from being left unnoticed for too long
@@Moo3826 basically all maretu and kikuo songs
Lesson of the day: Mabiki means spawn farming in Japan
😅 "Babies were terrible at fighting back" 🤣🤣