As always, a pleasure to watch your channel!! So relaxing, and a nice way to forget our troubles, at least for a little while!! Thank you sir, and have a great day!!!
Cool video. Now if everyone can write to Traxxas and ask for clear windows on the red and blue bodies, that would be great. Thanks. (orange, what were yoosa thinking Traxxas)
Been watching your channel for a few months now. Very entertaining and informative for a novice like me. Just ordered the Traxxas 2021 Bronco (orange) which will be my first 1/10 crawler (I heard it’s more like a 1/9 or 1/8). Just ordered the Hobbywing combo for it because of your review. Got the 550 to make it a monster, hope it fits! Look forward to your review of the TRX4 new Bronco.
I liked the R1 a lot. I never needed more power really. I did get the R2 and use the 550 motor now in my Redcat Gen8. I love it. Put the the old system in my bronco and love it in there as well. So smooth.
I have the 3300kv 550 system in my Trailwalker and i love it. Programs easily and it is a beast when I need it to be. I did have to start setting the punch a bit lower because the Axe system can twist steel axles and break driveshafts ect. Great video.
I have the v1 2300kv in my Gladiator and I love it. I mainly do super low speed crawling so don’t feel like I necessarily need the v2; no doubt i’ll pick one up in the future though. Thank you for the review F, superb info as always 👍🏼
Thankyou for another great video just had this setup done its awesome.ive been told if you run the truck in high speed to much it will damage the motor over time is this true.
Hi, I enjoy watching all your vids very informative. I have a trx4 defender and was wondering if I should go for a fusion or axe r2. Any recommendation? Thanks
Seeing as how the defender is a pretty heavy truck if you were going to just use it on trails for crawling then I think it would be fine either way however if you plan on running it at higher speeds in the second gear I would go with the X you don’t necessarily need the 550 sons can but I would possibly go with something like the 2800 or even the 2300 540 size I think this would be a good middle ground for that size of truck
I like the version 2 over the v1 in almost every aspect, except for the fact that it's really loud under load. The v1 could climb on second gear in my trx6 without making a peep. I also wish they had 550 sizes for the lower KVs.. But other than that, the better BEC and max amps are pretty helpful.
I am going to buy all the needed parts for a UMG SCX10 II from your links. Would you recommend this motor for it also? Once I click a link to buy, will you get some profit for everything I purchase or just the one I clicked on? I am new to the hobby and love your content. I am trying to catch up, binging this weekend, lol.
I just got the Copperhead so we'll compare soon. The biggest difference is the Copperheadcan handle 4S. Works with any motor and has the aux port for adjustable drag brake and others.
I just purchased one of these esc motor combos from hobbywing, thanks for your video man. My question is do i need to keep the voltage at 6amp or 7.4amp since i have a stock servo for my 2021 Bronco Traxxas? Thanks for any input, love your channel.
I purchased the Axe 540L R2-2100KV - Foc system to go in my stock 10ii. Will the stock gearing work or do I need to change it. What would you recommend?
What pinion and spur would be best for the sport? I’ve got stock 17/39 in it but I’ve got the 45 tooth spur wondering if that and the 12 tooth pinion the motor comes with will be good
I'm not sure I understand the use for FOC. - is FOC intended to be used with the adjusting radio settings or - is it intended for people with RTR radios that need customization that just can't be achieved with RTR radios or - something else entirely? I guess my concern/issue is how to troubleshoot something if something isn't acting like you expected. Do you just reset everything back to stock and start over adjusting one setting at a time?
@Daryl Lackey: "FOC" is being used by the marketing department to confuse and dazzle consumers - and it WORKED! (Yay marketing!). Even our brave host continues to use "FOC" to describe the AXE's /closed-loop speed control/ - which is what they call it in the manual. (Maybe Hobbywing's marketing extends to the configuration app? I haven't had a chance to configure my Axe R2 yet... curséd work schedule.) No big deal, we're all human. To an Electrical Engineer (like me) FOC (Field Oriented Control) is sophisticated brushless motor control. It's better than simple methods used for, say, an R/C airplane, but the details are too technical to be anything but forum fodder unless you've got an advanced degree. (czcams.com/video/Nhy6g9wGHow/video.html) With that out of the way: The /closed loop speed control/ (which our host mistakenly calls "FOC") isn't really about an the radio gear: It's usually called "drive/fly/whatever by wire": human tells the computer what s/he wants, and the computer figures how to do it. You just tell the car to drive slow, and the car will maintain the slow speed on its own. If you hit a big rock, sensors will notice and automatically apply more power to keep going at the same slow speed. As you start going down the big rock, it'll lower the power and apply brakes to maintain the same slow speed as it goes down. It uses its sensors to react with _inhuman_ speed, so the car keeps moving smooth and slow the entire time. Some drivers aren't keen on computerization, and it's totally understandable - when you hit a rock in an old 4x4, it'll stop and you have careful give it a bit more gas to get over the rock, and want to hit the brake when they go down. In my R/C Helis, everything works like this. When I move a stick on the radio, I'm not telling it to move the servos _at all_: I telling the onboard /computer/ I want to rotate the helicopter in the (X/Y/Z axis) at x° per second, and the computer figures out how far it needs to move the servos to do it. The gyros can sense how fast the helicopter is rotating, so it'll correct at inhuman speeds if it's rotating too fast or too slow (or in the wrong direction). Even the throttle on the engine has a sensor for RPM's, and corrects the throttle. The reason for the computerization is simple: Performance wins contests. Doubly so if the contest is life-or-death like a fighter jet.
i was debating on using axe r2 esc and a holmes motor but i don’t know if it’s viable. with crawlmaster esc being non existent for a while i’m looking for best esc/motor pairing
What KV for a gen8 around 13pounds 1400kv maybe and can gear up a lot or 2800kv or the one in the middle or go big and the 3300 550 I can't make up my mind
@@RCReviewChannel yea and I wanted more wheel speed because I mostly trail with it on hikes. Great video as usual. I got my trx4 sport, scx24 deadbolt and betty because of you and love them. The betty is still in box 📦
@@that1juggalo_m2c42 If you have a 2 speed gearbox it is fast enough for trailing, if not you can always gear it up. That will get you running for sure.
@@DirtyRC101 thanks its a single speed trx4 sport. its a nice midrange of the 2 speeds but can definitely creep like it should. I don't know too much about gearing and spur teeth but will look into it
Hi, Which one would you recommend for CrossRC UC6? 550 v1 with low Kv or 550 R2 3300 Kv? I don’t look towards speed/RPM, but torque/power (whole setup will could be up to 15 kg). Also, is my understanding correct that I can play with pinions to get even more power (pinion with lower T)? Thanks in advance.
@@evoxer87 Thank you for your thoughts. One of my doubts still is - are 'kv' in R2 correlate with 'kv' in previous gen? I.e. could it be that R2 3300kv wins vs R1 2700kv, for example?
@@RCReviewChannel Thank you for answer. Do you mean R2 550? Or 550 R2 3300kv is the same motor as 550 3300kv and just renamed (and, probably, with new firmware) as R2? What about 550 2700kv vs 550 3300kv vs 550 R2 3300kv (no other modifications in AXE 550 branch)?
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This motor can do it all, just a pleasure to operate. Crawl, trail, bash, you name it. Great video.
Thanks. We tried to display it's range. Configurability is amazing too.
As always, a pleasure to watch your channel!! So relaxing, and a nice way to forget our troubles, at least for a little while!! Thank you sir, and have a great day!!!
So true! If I don't learn something, you don't learn something. If I'm not excited, ...
Cool video. Now if everyone can write to Traxxas and ask for clear windows on the red and blue bodies, that would be great. Thanks. (orange, what were yoosa thinking Traxxas)
Been watching your channel for a few months now. Very entertaining and informative for a novice like me. Just ordered the Traxxas 2021 Bronco (orange) which will be my first 1/10 crawler (I heard it’s more like a 1/9 or 1/8). Just ordered the Hobbywing combo for it because of your review. Got the 550 to make it a monster, hope it fits! Look forward to your review of the TRX4 new Bronco.
I liked the R1 a lot. I never needed more power really. I did get the R2 and use the 550 motor now in my Redcat Gen8. I love it. Put the the old system in my bronco and love it in there as well. So smooth.
Same here! Put r2 550 in my gen8 axe and put that system in my gf's scx10.2! Both run great!
Glad I waited !
I kept looking at the fusion and something said (no not yet wait)🤯
Great video as usual 👍👍
thank you.
I bought an 1800kv Fusion for my trx4 sport on friday, ran it sunday. Went monday and bought an axe 2800kv system for it.
I'm happy with all my Axe systems. Running the 550 3300kv R2 in my Gatekeeper!
I have the 3300kv 550 system in my Trailwalker and i love it. Programs easily and it is a beast when I need it to be. I did have to start setting the punch a bit lower because the Axe system can twist steel axles and break driveshafts ect. Great video.
Thanks for sharing
How you keep getting younger Everytime I watch a video man 😂 thank you for so many helpful tips and hints for crawling and much more!!
I have the v1 2300kv in my Gladiator and I love it. I mainly do super low speed crawling so don’t feel like I necessarily need the v2; no doubt i’ll pick one up in the future though.
Thank you for the review F, superb info as always 👍🏼
Cool ,
I ordered one 3 days ago, can’t wait for it to arrive,
You'll be pleased.
@@RCReviewChannel
I ordered the 550 3300kv ,
Hope it will fit in my Rochobby Willys Jeep 🤔
@@RCReviewChannel For sure.
You have such great crawler reviews and which tyres and motors to get! I can watch your videos for hours 😊👍
Thank you so much 👍
Great view brother going to pick 1 up soon for my traxxas sport thanks again brother
Right on. I think you'll be pleased. Make sure you play with the Programming App with Bluetooth
Will do thanks again brother
those are the best combos ,my new fusion is just perfect
Good morning. Great videos my man keep them coming! 👍
Morning
I ordered the 1400kv and plan on installing on my Capra. We'll see what happens.
Im thinking of the 1400 as well for my Trx4. Ive no use for speed at all.
I bet that thing is going to be fun at technical crawling :)
I have the 2800kv R2 I’m my vs410 pro.awesome system.👍
Thankyou for another great video just had this setup done its awesome.ive been told if you run the truck in high speed to much it will damage the motor over time is this true.
You need to do the FIrmware Update with the Hobbywing V2 App please! Then the motor-noises while slow crawl will disappear!
let me try that now.
Hi, I enjoy watching all your vids very informative. I have a trx4 defender and was wondering if I should go for a fusion or axe r2. Any recommendation? Thanks
Seeing as how the defender is a pretty heavy truck if you were going to just use it on trails for crawling then I think it would be fine either way however if you plan on running it at higher speeds in the second gear I would go with the X you don’t necessarily need the 550 sons can but I would possibly go with something like the 2800 or even the 2300 540 size I think this would be a good middle ground for that size of truck
Your videos are awesome! Keep up the great work.
Thanks a ton!
I like the version 2 over the v1 in almost every aspect, except for the fact that it's really loud under load. The v1 could climb on second gear in my trx6 without making a peep. I also wish they had 550 sizes for the lower KVs.. But other than that, the better BEC and max amps are pretty helpful.
We'll listed to for that. Axe system is so crazy quiet compared to other brushless options.
I have the first version. Its pretty awesome imo. I want someone to get that spektrum foc system
So the new Spektrum stuff is all licensed Hobbywing products from what we can observe.
@@RCReviewChannel correct. However it seems like the spektrum may have a few features the axe doesn't have.
Awesome video very informative as always.
Question though , will the R2 fit in a capra?
I am going to buy all the needed parts for a UMG SCX10 II from your links. Would you recommend this motor for it also? Once I click a link to buy, will you get some profit for everything I purchase or just the one I clicked on? I am new to the hobby and love your content. I am trying to catch up, binging this weekend, lol.
Be careful setting the bec to 7.4v as the micro servos are rated to 6v.... it’s fine in a sport but not the defender or bronco
Power hd do the tr4 micro servos which are 7.4 v more torque and faster metal geared and waterproof and only £22 each just fitted in my own one
Great and informative video. Keep it up.
I will get a trx4 when I get a job
Good video friend
Have gen 1 and Gen 2 Axe. They are good but I am interested in seeing how it compares to the Copperhead from CC
I was actually thinking the same thing. I have a redcat gen8 v2 and wanting to put the axe system in it. Now I don’t know what to choose 🤦♂️😜
I just got the Copperhead so we'll compare soon. The biggest difference is the Copperheadcan handle 4S. Works with any motor and has the aux port for adjustable drag brake and others.
@@RCReviewChannel No Aux wire on the copperhead.
I just purchased one of these esc motor combos from hobbywing, thanks for your video man. My question is do i need to keep the voltage at 6amp or 7.4amp since i have a stock servo for my 2021 Bronco Traxxas? Thanks for any input, love your channel.
I’d say 6
The micro servos are rated for 6. Source? I fried mine lol
Luv my 3300 r2 ✊🏽
More powah!!
Which one more better if compare with castle creations mamba x combo?
is this better than the fusion pro capability wise and customizability wise ?
Do you know what speed the Trx4 does with a fusion 2300 with stock pinion on 3s?
Want axe 3300 but wallet doesn’t!
What about the fan mount, got any suggestions there? I don't actually own this yet, so I can't measure it out.. :X
What kv would get me the most speed while still maintaining good low speed crawling performance? I have the 2 speed transmission👍
I purchased the Axe 540L R2-2100KV - Foc system to go in my stock 10ii. Will the stock gearing work or do I need to change it. What would you recommend?
What pinion and spur would be best for the sport? I’ve got stock 17/39 in it but I’ve got the 45 tooth spur wondering if that and the 12 tooth pinion the motor comes with will be good
I'm not sure I understand the use for FOC.
- is FOC intended to be used with the adjusting radio settings or
- is it intended for people with RTR radios that need customization that just can't be achieved with RTR radios or
- something else entirely?
I guess my concern/issue is how to troubleshoot something if something isn't acting like you expected. Do you just reset everything back to stock and start over adjusting one setting at a time?
@Daryl Lackey: "FOC" is being used by the marketing department to confuse and dazzle consumers - and it WORKED! (Yay marketing!). Even our brave host continues to use "FOC" to describe the AXE's /closed-loop speed control/ - which is what they call it in the manual. (Maybe Hobbywing's marketing extends to the configuration app? I haven't had a chance to configure my Axe R2 yet... curséd work schedule.) No big deal, we're all human.
To an Electrical Engineer (like me) FOC (Field Oriented Control) is sophisticated brushless motor control. It's better than simple methods used for, say, an R/C airplane, but the details are too technical to be anything but forum fodder unless you've got an advanced degree. (czcams.com/video/Nhy6g9wGHow/video.html)
With that out of the way: The /closed loop speed control/ (which our host mistakenly calls "FOC") isn't really about an the radio gear:
It's usually called "drive/fly/whatever by wire": human tells the computer what s/he wants, and the computer figures how to do it. You just tell the car to drive slow, and the car will maintain the slow speed on its own. If you hit a big rock, sensors will notice and automatically apply more power to keep going at the same slow speed. As you start going down the big rock, it'll lower the power and apply brakes to maintain the same slow speed as it goes down. It uses its sensors to react with _inhuman_ speed, so the car keeps moving smooth and slow the entire time.
Some drivers aren't keen on computerization, and it's totally understandable - when you hit a rock in an old 4x4, it'll stop and you have careful give it a bit more gas to get over the rock, and want to hit the brake when they go down.
In my R/C Helis, everything works like this. When I move a stick on the radio, I'm not telling it to move the servos _at all_: I telling the onboard /computer/ I want to rotate the helicopter in the (X/Y/Z axis) at x° per second, and the computer figures out how far it needs to move the servos to do it. The gyros can sense how fast the helicopter is rotating, so it'll correct at inhuman speeds if it's rotating too fast or too slow (or in the wrong direction). Even the throttle on the engine has a sensor for RPM's, and corrects the throttle.
The reason for the computerization is simple: Performance wins contests. Doubly so if the contest is life-or-death like a fighter jet.
I ordered Velineon VXL 3s from Traxxas for my TRX6 , I messed up huh?
Yes. But if you're not going to crawl, it's ok. For crawling though you really need a sensored motor for all the control and modulation.
i was debating on using axe r2 esc and a holmes motor but i don’t know if it’s viable. with crawlmaster esc being non existent for a while i’m looking for best esc/motor pairing
What KV for a gen8 around 13pounds 1400kv maybe and can gear up a lot or 2800kv or the one in the middle or go big and the 3300 550 I can't make up my mind
Nice brother💪🏽💪🏽
From 🇲🇾🇲🇾
Big up
Cracking informative video as usual.
What kv motor would you recommend for a single speed trx4 sport. 2100 or 2800 Tia
2100. a bit faster then stock. with 3s Lipos
Cracking is good right?
2100kv for sure.
@@RCReviewChannel yes sir Awesome. Thankyou and keep up the good work
@@runnerbaba appreciate your response
Awesome! I wish the 1st revision had forward/brake/reverse, it's annoying when my axe 550 tries to Front flip from full speed
Turn your drag brake down
@@caddydaddy53ify I already did that, I think it's because all of my other RC cars have the brake function and I forget the Bronco doesn't
I just purchased the V2 2800 for my new Vanquish VS4 Ultra...will it be too much?
Are there different modes on the esc ? Got a 10.3 with this set up and I feel like it should be faster or more punch for a brushless it’s the 2100kv
would you recommend this kit Axe540L R2 2100kv BLS for the TRX-6 ?
Going for the 1400kv version. Defenders are slow😂
God damn it just installed the fusion last night
Fusion is great for space. Just not very fast.
@@RCReviewChannel yea and I wanted more wheel speed because I mostly trail with it on hikes. Great video as usual. I got my trx4 sport, scx24 deadbolt and betty because of you and love them. The betty is still in box 📦
@@that1juggalo_m2c42 If you have a 2 speed gearbox it is fast enough for trailing, if not you can always gear it up. That will get you running for sure.
@@DirtyRC101 thanks its a single speed trx4 sport. its a nice midrange of the 2 speeds but can definitely creep like it should. I don't know too much about gearing and spur teeth but will look into it
Hi Francis. Which Axe R2 version do you use in this video? 1400, 2100, 2800 or 3300Kv?
In the test is the 2100kv
Wish it had aux for on the fly adjustable drag brake on a knob. Then it would be perfect.
auto mode is perfect
You don't need it... I prefer the auto drag brake on the Axe... its flawless,
I also use auto brake but the ability to turn off or even adjust dragbrake on the fly is sweet.
@@667Gurba have you used an axe system?
@@mickd8188 Yes.
Bought the axe with 1800kv and has a fan on esc
Do I really need it?
Do you still like the 14 tooth for the trx6?
what tires?
Do the servo's for low/high gear select accept 7.4V from BEC?
No but you might be able to find one that does
What motor did you use? 540 or 550?
so axe r2.. or fusion? what's the pick now?
guess i dont get a reply :-(
@The Bad Shepherd went with the axe r2... like 9 months ago... lol
Cheers for the reply though :-)
@The Bad Shepherd yup..
Goes wheelie good now... (pun intended) ;-)
Hi, Which one would you recommend for CrossRC UC6? 550 v1 with low Kv or 550 R2 3300 Kv? I don’t look towards speed/RPM, but torque/power (whole setup will could be up to 15 kg). Also, is my understanding correct that I can play with pinions to get even more power (pinion with lower T)? Thanks in advance.
Personally I would choose a low kv motor for your heavy CrossRC. Also, as you said, lower the pinion gear
3300kv big block 550 motor
@@evoxer87 Thank you for your thoughts. One of my doubts still is - are 'kv' in R2 correlate with 'kv' in previous gen? I.e. could it be that R2 3300kv wins vs R1 2700kv, for example?
@@RCReviewChannel Thank you for answer. Do you mean R2 550? Or 550 R2 3300kv is the same motor as 550 3300kv and just renamed (and, probably, with new firmware) as R2? What about 550 2700kv vs 550 3300kv vs 550 R2 3300kv (no other modifications in AXE 550 branch)?
i have tobuild a truck with this system
Is a 550 or 540L ????
What wheel set up are you running on that rig?
That is a Boom Racing ProBuild. czcams.com/video/QIotccSAR-s/video.html
Great video, We would like to have a discussion about our battery review for your audience, since Melasta Rc car batteries are hot selling products on amazon and aliexpress. Kindly let me know if we can have discussion
I have a trx4 sport and lately my drag breaks have been getting weak, is it a motor or esc thing?
stock motor....brushed....
You will kill the traxxas radio with 7.4v it will take it for a bit but will die eventually.
Typical. I just ordered the RedCat Gen8 Scout II AXE Edition and now I gonna have to spend additional 2300 SEK on the latest AXE system....
korea lauange support plz
What's a "brown-out"? 🤣😂😹
A brown-out is where the ESC completely shuts down momentarily as it gets overloaded by the servos.