Is A High Price Tag Part Of The Intrigue? - TKG 151
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- A discussion surrounding the idea that a high price tag might actually create the initial intrigue for people who aren't familiar with the "upper territory".
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My cousin who collects, buys and sells, sneakers was so confused about me being into knives. After comparing the two hobbies and explaining prices (premium materials, made in US, collaborations and exclusives etc) he finally got it lol
I remember buying a spydi and thinking it was too much...years later I looking at a Rask and going yeah that's worth it lol
Guilty as charged on the constant breaking of price ceilings. My justification is that my bills are paid and they bring me joy.
Price tag intrigue is in every community of collectors.
I’m pretty much a “budget knife” person but, i still do enjoy watching your video’s, even though most of what you show is too expensive for me. My most expensive knife is my Bugout 535-3, carbon fiber, S90V. I paid over $250 but, now I’m going through exactly what you’re talking about in this video with the Protech Malibu. I do this same thing with snare drums! The difference is that the snare drums pay for themselves and more after playing gigs!! Thanks for the video bro!!
Just bought an esee 4 in micarta thanks for the recommendation!!
I have the Esee 6 for camping and hiking. Good choice.
You have some very nice Knives my friend. I do understand the expenses on the Handgun side of things. I own 40 that are under $600, then another 30 that are under $800. That not being enough, and my excuse is: I need this for our Channel, I have another 15 that are under $3,000 each just to cover a large bunch of our Custom 1911 Pistols. All used for sport & enjoyment, and lastly to carry off duty for self defense and the defense of others. I Retire December of 2022 and I will work on our Channel full time if they are still up and running. Stay Safe to you, your family and all your viewers. God Bless. 🤠👍🇺🇸. B9USA Sr.
I have plenty of budget knives, they work perfectly fine.
Your being an enabler MC gonna get me in more trouble
I remember when a 100 dollar knife was ridiculous. Back when I started seriously collecting it had to be assisted and had to be American made if possible so the top of my knives were the Kershaw Blur and Leeks and a few Benchmades. Now I am buying Medfords and Olamics Micro-Techs top I have paid so far was 650.00 but a Large Inkosi and a Deadlock C is on my list.
I’m still hoping to get my hands on that SMF. Not because it’s $475 retail. It’s a $475 knife. It’s worth that. I’m not going to pay $800+ for one.
I’m to the point where I wish Strider would go the same route Microtech did, and sub these out to a manufacture. All I want is a hard use knife, I plan on using hard if the need arises.
Same here. I am now looking for a microtech/Stryder collaboration because I don't want to spend over $800 for a knife that I think is worth $500 but they have been sold out for some time.
Feels. But if you keep your eyes open you can occasionally find Pro Tech SNGs. That’s about as close as you can get.
You're a pretty good psychologist! I'd share my own story, but like you said, everybody has one. Let's just say I started by wondering why someone would pay $350 for a SOG Pentagon, and ending up with that Pentagon, 4 Microtechs, an Infidel, a couple others, and finally having 2, yes 2, Deadlocks on order! This is all in about a 2 month period. Spot on diagnosis, Brother!
Me and you!
That ZT 0562 and Hinderer XM-18 comment was laser accurate. I own both, but the 0562 came first. LOL
Dude I was on the couch next to my wife when you made the comment about the price being one of the intrigues. Put a warning on that man, she heard that. I almost had to answer questions. Questions I can't reasonably explain.
I wish I could stop. It started with collecting hot wheels then I went to collecting flashlights and I would never spend over $50 on a light then it was never over $100 for a light then finally justified a $700 flashlight now I’ve moved over to knives and I would never spend over $50 for a knife then the knife world jumped quick to never over $200 and to where $300 is the normal knife price and I will never spend over that $300 on a knife. The $300 knife is where I’m at now but looking at some $450-$500 knives telling myself hell you spent $700 on a stupid flashlight you can definitely go higher on a knife right ?!?
All that being said, I think we can all agree that a $1,000 steel flame hinderer clip is a rip off LOL.
This was so relatable and well formulated. For me “that one knife” is the benchmade 940. And because I live in the Netherlands its costs the euro equivalent of 300$ which is a lot of money for me since I’m only 17. Now I’m waiting for my birthday this summer to buy it as a gift for myself, I really can’t wait but I keep wondering if its going to be worth it.
I'll be worth it but it won't be enough. You're going to want something more expensive.
It will be great and you will enjoy it. Get the knife, use it well, and enjoy every bit of it. It is okay to want another in the future. At 17, just learn to appreciate a knife you have wanted. You have time to want and appreciate other knives. There are so many wonderful designers out there!
Desiring better utility got me from gas station knives to $30-50 knives. Better materials got me to $150. Design got me to $300. I was there and thought FOR SURE I was done. But then the price intrigue got me up to $400-500. I literally just wanted to see what all the fuss was about. That’s where I am now and own a few knives in that range that I love, but the itch to go up hasn’t hit me…yet.
Looking at spending 300 on my next knife telling myself that's where my rabbit hole will end. What have I gotten in to...
@@anchorass I sympathise so hard! For me right now that is Shirogorovs... so pretty, but i just cannot justify the 1600 dollar price tag! I did just buy a herman sting and a hinderer within a couple of weeks of each other tho... so far my limit is around 500 but i have my eye on the koenig arius... after the rave reviews it gets literally EVERYWHERE i know i won't be able to stop myself... same as the winterblade factor... but at least with the factor i know i most likely won't get it because the demand will be too big.
Six months ago I never would have imagined spending over $100 on a knife. Now there's a $300 knive that I'm waiting to pull the trigger on. Definitely stopping after that...
It's called "conspicuous consumption." Thorsten Vablen, if I recall correctly.
“The Jenga tower of the whole thing”! Hahaha
Yea my biggest hurdle was stepping up to a Hinderer. I honestly first saw them when I was buying custom hardware for my benchmade and I kept seeing Hinderers in the background of their pictures, I looked them up and saw that $425 msrp and then saw the $500 price tag on the secondhand market. Then spent the next six months trying to justify it to myself because the hinderer was just so damn good looking. And yes I got mad at the knife word for them being so expensive and I just couldn't get the damn knife out of my head. I then started to research them to find the one I'd want if I did spend the money. During those six months before I got my first Hinderer I couldn't stop thinking about it. Found the one I wanted saved the money, made the plunge and now I'm hunting down my third one lol I'm also saving for a Shirogorov lol a knife twice the price of a Hinderer. My problem now is I can't justify buying a cheaper knife. I look at my $300 Benchmade as a low end knife now and honestly will never buy one again. Knife collecting is such an odd thing. The mental hoops we jump through. Once you rip the bandaid off the first time the second is WAAAYYYYYY easier.
You’re just buy-curious.
I have these inner conflicts of course. And within me, it's a Punch and Judy show that repeats. I wonder if I acted it all out with sock puppets if it would be clear to me why I do this with knives.
Relatable 🤣🔪👌🏻 thanks for the weird and fun addition MC
Life is to short!! Buy whatever makes you happy!!!
Don't know how other people manage it, but there are usually a number of things I really want to get hold of. So here is my trick: I want a Rockstead and a Socom Elite, both are quite expensive for me, so I hunt for Rockstead, get shocked by its price and return to Socom. And now, on comparison, Socoms price is NOT THAT BAD and I can justify one for myself! Worked with Shiros like a charm 😁
As a XM-24 owner, I would gladly pay the likely $375-400 for the near equivalent ZT version should they ever make one. (Yes, I’m aware of the ZT 0560). Haven’t found any near equivalents of CRK products though.
I’ll be the first to admit, when I saw a Strider with a crazy looking blade an scales.. it costs like $6200. Pffft! If I had that kinda money I would totally!!! Buy it!!! Lol I have money spending problems...
This phenomenon was studied and named by economist Thorstein Veblen, and such items are known as “Veblen goods”. The demand increases AS price increases, because simply owning one is seen as a status symbol. When you juxtapose this with consumers in a third world struggling to purchase necessary goods, it starts to attain an unethical stink. There are some profound economic implications in tying up currency in ‘overpriced’ status symbols, it gets pretty deep and interesting. I think it’s important to remain aware that these items prey on the weakness in human psychology- FOMO (IG drops, wait lists) and insecurity (status). I can’t get one? I NEED ONE. It’s not accidental that this is the basis for many business models in knives and other so called “collectibles”. We all need to think about the ethics of consumption, now more than ever.
I use to laugh at those Spyderco guys, until I became one. I now have 14 pm2s a couple shamans and a number of smaller Spydercos. Love to buy new scales and customize them, new pocket clip maybe a backspacer. At first I balked at the price, who would pay 170 to 200$ for one knife! Now with prices constantly rising some of knives I've bought over last few years seem like a bargain.
Good stuff Larry! Spyderco makes some great knives. 🤠👍
B9USA Sr.
Last week I bought two high end Spydercos (Manix 2 and Para 3, both in G10) knowing soon prices will be over $300.
Sometimes the opposite is true too. I find myself doubting the quality of something because of how "cheap" it is. It's like I'm mentally conditioned to believe that ultra-high quality must cost 4 digits. Obviously this isn't the case but it's a mental speed bump I have when looking at high end production knives.
Just here for the Shir-.. wait.. no Shiros on the table.. this is devastating..
Great video on something we’ve all felt haha. Especially after missing out on a drop or something. I remember I was mad when I first got into nicer knives and I couldn’t get any of the good ones I wanted cuz they were pricey to me at the time or unobtainable lol.
At the 22 minute mark MC sounds like Batman 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yup,been there ,done that and got the knives to prove it :)
Financial psychology for knife nuts.
Tease, All the build up and no show(LOL). Completely know what you mean, I have some budget knives and a couple around $100 which is my limit especially since I'm new to the hobby. Comfort zone, Butterflies when I way out of mine. That is my ZT 0462. $280 dollars is not a lot money for most collectors. Actually with tax and shipping over $300. And I edc and 4 out of 7 days its my primary.
I agree 100% You put into words what I have gone through. Just paid the most I've ever spent on a Keurig Arius. After going through these steps, I don't know why I deliberated so long to make the purchase...
where'd you find one! I've been looking for one for EVER!
Another great episode bud😁👌👍⚔️
Hahaha. Glad I'm not the only one. But in all seriousness, my budget for work knives if around $500-700, so for a pocket knife I can really only justify $400ish. I'm waiting on getting my koenig knife 🔪
Basically the bottom line is the cost and or price of something/object is whatever someone is willing to pay for said object...
After stumbling on to back in 2015, I think I now have 20 or 30 plus folding knives. Thanks !!!
Opposite for me. Probably because I grew up very poor and have been poor (near around poverty level) for most of my life, price is the first thing that'll run me away from any product. Even though I do have a bit of spending money these days, my brain is still hard locked in that mind set. Goes for all my hobbies. I live the budget life and it's done me well.
Funny you make this video as I’m currently saving up for a wharncliffe Eklipse lol hope it lives up to the hype of it’s crazy price up charges
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I was a little confused to say the least.
I have been thinking about it, and I can honestly say, the vast majority of my own personal intrigue is the intrigue of others. I am also a craftsman of custom items, including customizing axes & a few other edged weapons. You can see some of my work on my channel. I think it's the last "CZcams short" I uploaded a few months ago. It's called "The Cyclops Staxx Axe." So, I know why certain knives cost so much more. The price is honestly not any part of intrigue to me. It is just another obstacle preventing me from owning beautiful pieces of craftsmanship that call out to me like a Siren song. I also had the luxury of living within 30 minutes of BladeHQ storefront, until the pansies shut it all down with "no comment" on whether or not they'll ever open those doors again. All due to the facking beer bug.
Anyway, I wish I could get more knives, but it just ain't in the cards right now (except for the Factor when it finally comes out, I already have the money saved for it 😬). Hopefully someday I will be able to own a grail knife. When that day comes, and I begrudgingly spend way too much, and your mocking voice pops into my head saying "I told you so! Neener neener neener!" as you wag your new crooked toenail scalpel in my face... I will have the balls to tell you about it. After all, it would be the only honorable thing to do.
Bruh, you're like the Joker of the knife world, funny shit
Just got my 0562ti the other day and have already started looking at xm-18s and eklipse's. Since this ZT is so good at 300, what does a 425 "version" feel like? That's what im thinking.
Edit: not the full ti hinderers, I can't afford those at all lol
I saw that MMM on UrbanEDCSupply. Looking forward to the review. I like the way she looks.
Although my cap is $ 300 i would normally not spend more than this on a knife as you get what you want or what you need around this amount but i have at times ended up spending much more than the said amount for a knife which i never thought i would. So just remember things and views change with time.
I collect knives same as I collect firearms yet the government only allows 3 firearms a day.knives you can get 1000 no limit. Basically go for the gold like anything in life. I believe 1970 was a big knife era ,defiantly 2020 and on is a great era. Shout out to the knife community. Have a good day to all.
I absolutely love this video. This topic could be posted under any enthusiast sub-Reddit. The amount of negativity and pettiness that “nice”, “high quality”, and “expensive” collections/purchases evoke is astounding to me. Happens in /r/Goodyear welt and /r/MaleFashiomAdvice all the time.
And I recently got into knives and realized the good ole’ boys also made up disproportionately large vocal crowd.
Look at the shiny things and go “Neat!”, or stfu. Or at least give an interesting critique, start a civilized discussion. But nope. “My $50 [thing] things the same as your $350 [thing]. WTF duDE WhAT a WAStE!!.!! YuR DUm”
Sorry, I just can’t stand these people who are too dense to realize they’re being annoying in their vain attempt to virtue signal/cope with their own inability to afford and/or appreciate a high quality/handmade/well designed/well finished item. Are there crazy decreasing marginal gains on investment? Probably. WE KNOW THAT. It’s completely absurd. FANTASTIC, video, MC.
Is MetalComplex taking about the James Brand Barnes? 😂
My holy grail knife thats out of reach is the Rockstead Don T-ZDP. That fixed blade costs $3,650. No way that I can justify it, but man, is it a looker.
If you own more than 2, 3 pocket knives, you've already crossed from rational knife user to collector. After that.... ;->
Must be a new watch or a set of fancy cuff links.
You bought an expensive watch. And that was a good idea.
I keeping my mouth shut cuz have bought two Shiro's in the last 5 month's. But, what was the object?????
Exactly, you always ask why does it cost so much. But equally important is the value you will get when you go to sell it. Because that’s the real cost, the difference in what you paid and what you can sell it for in 6 mos. Is the real cost. That’s how I justified my 1st CRK, sure I paid 450 but 6 mos later I can sell it for 440, then the actual cost is almost nothing.
Yes. But the inverse is true with a LOW price as being part of the intrigue. Like how bad is this going to be and how much better can I make it?
Pride of ownership
Relationships, am I right? 😂😂
In terms of price… mental price, physical price, emotional price, but when they work, talk about luxury. (Not the other person working, the whole relationship working 😂)
This struggle 😔 I feel it
The internet makes it worse/better. None of my friends or family care about knives or watches. Having online communities that enable & encourage the minutiae that create different values changes everything.
You know you've changed when you filter the shop page by high>low instead of low>high.
Caveman voice: knife man say words, words make me sad, words are true
I think this is spot-on, 100% have done this myself multiple times in multiple hobbies for multiple purchases spending lots and lots and lots of money on things. And to be fair to myself most of the time I didn't waste too much money on the deal. Sometimes I feel like you may be peering into my soul
I spend my money on pocket knives and funko pops lol.
I’m a addict😏
What is the knife in the top left corner? It's the only 1 I'm not familiar with.
Arcane design Crawler mate
Whats the top middle Silver/Blue knife
Vero Isotope I think mate
Did you get a Borka ?
You can't take it with you, so spend it while you can enjoy it. Sell it when you get old. Lol
I'm always fighting the urge to buy a paragon warlock
Quit fighting it
Yea... Sounds like MC is justifying a watch
Why is the PMP Alpha not in this video? 😂
What is the knife on the bottom left?
Civivi Conspiritor I think mate
I would never overpay for anything. Why? Because if I want it more than the price tag I didn’t over pay haha. I definitely didn’t over pay for my $680 shadow Scarab because I wanted it more that that 680. Just tell yourself you’re not overpaying and you’re not. Been working for me (and not my bank account) for years.
🤣🤣👏👏
I totally re-watched your shadow scarab unboxing for validation so thanks for that!
My comfort zone is between 50 and 200
Heck yeah
Just found out i cant own a pro tech sbr auto😔😭😭 so heartbroken had my eyes on the ultem bhq version
RIP what state?
You can own it. They can’t stop you from owning it. It might be illegal to carry it in public but even then they have to catch you out with it.
California
There are states that have outlawed auto knives. Yes they can stop ownership.
One less competitor for the Ultem SBR, SCORE! lol jk RIP.
Nobody outside of the knife world understands this as a hobby. I get a lot of strange looks and comments when I’m on lunch break perusing the websites. The only family member who gets it is my daughter who now has her own collection