I Said No To Gender Insanity (And Was Taken to Court!) - Maya Forstater (4K) | heretics. 21
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- J K Rowling first became embroiled in the trans (or gender) wars after she leapt to the defence of Maya Forstater, a researcher whose contract was not renewed because she stated that trans women were not women. Her gender critical beliefs were deemed by the judge not worthy of respect, and she lost everything. #gender #jkrowling #lgb
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Chapters:
0:00 Highlights
1:00 Maya’s Story
3:55 How Maya Found Out
6:00 All she was saying is this
7:00 How J K Rowling Entered the Fray
9:00 Is JK Rowling a transphobe?
11:00 Why polls are impossible
13:00 1 in 1,000 women have penises?
15:55 Why does sex matter?
18:00 Skewed crime stats
21:00 The importance of evidence-based discussion
23:50 Maya’s employers’ impossible position
26:25 Court Found Maya’s Views NOT Worth of Respect
29:00 She Misgendered a Non-Binary Scout Leader
33:00 How it’s like 1984
36:00 How it felt to lose tribunal
39:00 Was the judge a bigot?
41:00 Contrapoints & J K Rowling
45:30 Makeup, long hair…and boobs
48:00 Contrapoints reading out J K Rowling
50:00 J K Rowling getting it from both sides
51:55 Intersex, clownfish & so on
53:50 A Heretic Maya Admires
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What was different in the case post appeal that end it in her favor?
@@vash3055 Good question.
@@vash3055 I think from memory they appealed on the grounds the Judge wasn't following the law when he ruled, he was following the propaganda in the guidance Maya mentioned which was contrary to the actual law.
It’s insane to think the truth could cost you everything and is that why I’m not tremendously successful?!
I'm glad she appealed and won. What was done to her was absolutely disgusting, particularly by the original judge.
Maya Forstater, a hero of the age. An everywoman who spoke the simple truth that there are only two sexes and a man cannot become a woman, lost her career, was hounded for months, stood her ground, fought back, and won. We need more of you to fight the good fight!
This era of transphobia will come to an end one day.
@@connor5669 define trans and also transphobia.
@@wolfhugs2221 Gender identity is a psychological and neurochemical feature of the human brain.
Transgender people experience a gender identity that differs from their sex.
Transphobia is the fear, disgust, hatred, or irrational distrust of transgender people. And yes, the idea that trans identity is a delusion is irrational distrust because it directly contradicts psychological research
I certainly will fight the good fight.
Imagine joining a political movement because you believe your people are suffering a literal “genocide” of violent transphobia…then not even be able to give a simple answer when asked “what is transgender?” or “what is transphobia?” Or “what rights do you want that you don’t already have?” Where is the genocide? Why can’t they tolerate any sort of differences of opinion? Why do they refuse to acknowledge anyone and anything that might disagree with their beliefs? What do they even want?
"Transphobia is used as a weapon against women being able to say no"
- That is really the heart of it!
Not really.
@@user-gu7lv9gk8m Well thanks for the input
Transphobia would be the fear of being raped by a latent homosexual male AGP wearing make-up (one could argue he's already removed the dress he stole from his ex wife).
@@user-gu7lv9gk8myes really. Biological men should not be in female only spaces but women can’t say no to it, same with men being in female sports. Explain how I’m wrong though
@@user-gu7lv9gk8m Sure: women are more vulnerable to men because of all the obvious reasons, and need their separate spaces for safeguarding. But a female only space can't exist if men are welcomed to them. Simple but important.
Imagine raising a daughter in this world and telling her that if a strange man is in her personal space she mustn’t be wary of him before asking him how he feels she should think about him first. It’s just absurd. Absurd and insidious. And dangerous. Sacrificing their safety for men’s ‘euphoria’. Just pure insanity.
Shockingly, Kelly Jay Keen was told when she posed this same scenario in an argument (that if a man exposed himself to her daughter in a changing area) that 'she shouldn't have been looking' at said mans' genitalia!
Try raising a daughter that thinks she is a boy and is being conditioned by her school.
Our instincts have been honed by millennia of experience; we ignore them at our peril
Where does this belief that a "strange man" in a space where a girl is deems the situation dangerous period? I mean obviously youre talking about a trans women in a bathroom, but what is the actual fear? These people just want to go in a space that aligns with their physical appearance and not be ridiculed. Also why do you quote it as sacrificing safety for men's "euphoria"? No one believes being trans is genuinely euphoric, if anything I think every trans person would tell you the opposite lol.
(original poster changed their wording so my response doesnt align with what they are now saying, disrespectful)
@@Ambyliautogynephiles might be described as euphoric about being allowed in women’s spaces. Women who identify as men are not likely to be euphoric at having to use men’s bathrooms.
Imagine working for a - "think tank" - and then being told you're not allowed - "to think?!" Its all really quite amazing and mind-bending - in the most "Orwellian" sense possible.
Conservatives are villagers, thinking is not your thing.
@garyweglarz 100% this!
It's a think tank, because you ARE allowed to think ... what they tell you to think.
@@kendonfahr8337Whoa that's deep, man! Is that what they told you in church?
@@user-gu7lv9gk8m, huh?
"Are you a transphobe?" The correct answer is: "I don't give a flying F".
Lol, agreed! the definition of prejudice nowadays has REALLLLYYYY stretched. Even if you fully support someone's right to live the way they want to live, and you treat them equally as anyone else (with respect and kindness), you are still "discriminating" just because you disagree on philosophy/truth claims. It's twisted.. No one's safe lol
Excellent answer!
Well she lost her job so it's best to gaf just because you have no job people have to work
Ripper mate!
@@LilLingLing6789 I bet you wore a mask, stood 6 feet away and took the jab too. Some people stand by what they believe, not what they are told to believe. It's called having the courage of your convictions.
It’s just outrageous that Maya or anyone should have to fight for the right to state banal truths like mammals can’t change sex. We’re living in a dystopia.
look at the state of education these days... we live in authoritarian times. You get on with the program or else.
JC get a grip. You HAVE seen the homelessness and poverty on the streets right? You think its a f&^%ing authoritarian dystopia because somebody lost their job because they were being a dick and then sued and WON. Are you CRAZY?
Trans people/allies don't claim that you can change all aspects of biological sex. Most trans women do have XY chromosomes and most trans men do have XX chromosomes. Tell me a biological fact that you think we'll deny.
I'll tell you a biological fact: there are many intersex people who reach adolescence or even adulthood without knowing they're intersex. Someone could live their whole childhood as one gender despite having the chromosomal phenotype typically associated with the other sex. It's not written into the fabric of the universe that "gender and sex are distinct" but the fact that a genetic test (something we didn't even know how to do for over 99% of our existence as humans) is required to discover someone's "actual" biological sex makes it pretty ridiculous in my opinion to hold onto the zealous belief that gendered language, beliefs, expectations, etc. are just about biological fact.
For quite some time.
Some animals can change sex such as frogs. Christians don't know science
Amazing how less than 1% of the world's population can wreak this much havoc.
Until you realise narcissistic, entitled men can easily put themselves in positions of power everywhere and the other mostly men in power don’t care, as it isn’t detrimental to them.
From a recent article in the Sydney Morning Herald: 'Royal Children’s Hospital gender clinic co-head Tram Nguyen said … “When we look at student, young people population data, about a third will identify as non-binary. So this is not an insignificant amount.”' The gender cult is affecting far more people (especially young people) than the tiny percentage with genuine gender dysmorphia.
... and their allies, and everyone who is otherwise complicit in refusing to speak up. That probably bumps it up to appx 30%.
@@carltaylor6452 Definitely not. You are only including the Western population, which is a small part of the world population. It's probably less than 5% if you include China, India, every muslim country etc.
Only in a couple of countries. Definitely not on a global scale at all.
Maya is helping to save people from saying things that are not true or they don't believe in. She is a pioneer.
No, she's a brain-dead moron who doesn't know her a** from a turd.
‘Once you ring fence a group of people as not presenting a risk, you attract people that are.’ - I’m paraphrasing but that’s got to be one of the most important points of the entire interview. And another brilliant interview it was.
Yes I thought the same. We used to ring fence vicars , football coaches , scout leaders , celebrity DJ's even!
I saw a youtube by a social worker who said that her group in training were told at least 2 people in that group statistically were there only because they would be able to access vulnerable children. It's something we should all bear in mind, predators will seek out situations where they will be trusted with children. Safeguarding above everything else. The Scouts situation Maya described I remember very well. Their policy was (is) to allow self identification so that boys or men would be allowed to sleep in the same accomodation as girls, and to not inform the parents that this would be happening.
@@bunches66 I could not agree more. Whether it’s the police, the Church, social care, elderly care, the medical profession and now gender indentiy - there will always be people that are predatory that will latch on. That isn’t to suggest that everyone in these and/or any other sectors are in anyway predatory but safeguarding is a necessity. The 2+2=5 argument is another strong point - by all accounts there are some that truly indentify as belonging in the wrong gender (that is absolutely fine and they are welcome to do what feels right) but logic doesn’t disappear simply on the basis of ‘feelings’.
@@jayWalk8 and that didn’t and continues not to turn out very well. Tim Westwood being one of the most recent DJ’s with a string of allegations.
The people who say "Oh well, there will always be perverts sneaking into the women's bathrooms" (aka "So why try to stop them?') are the same people who are hiding their desire for the legal right to point their camera up your skirt.
I wonder how many men I just offended by saying that?
When people put pronouns in their bio's, they're not telling you about their gender. They're either telling you about their politics, or they're telling you they're scared.
@chelfyn I doubt it’s because they’re scared. There is an option to give no pronouns and usually nobody questions that. Anyone who uses pronouns is either a narcissist or a virtue-signalling tw@t.
Well said.
wut, scared of what exactly? lol
Liberal politics are humanistic. Conservative politics are demonic.
Quotable!
Now this is a remarkable heretic. Quietly spoken and very kind with no ego, but will not be shaken by anything. Going through the nightmare of lawfare is not something most people can comprehend. She's a remarkable person who has done and continues to do things that will alter the course of history. Can't wait to listen to this.
Lmfao "no ego." You're so gullible, babe
@@connor5669 how so, mate?
@@wolfhugs2221 She has a massive ego for one thing. For another, she is continually dishonest about the results of her court cae to continue her anti trans grift
@@connor5669 how does she display ego? I've read the result of the court case. On what points do you see dishonesty portrayed?
@@connor5669massive ego? How so?
What the entite topic has made clear to me is how alive and well misogyny and invalidation of women actually is. The fact we have MEN lecturing WOMEN about the experience of women, diregarding women's rights, safety and careers in some cases tells me everything. As a woman who has been the victim of SA this entire topic and the screeching of men determined to verbally beat women into submission and PHYSICALLY as well as we've seen has assured me; this is why women don't report SA and DV more frequently. I've been a tomboy my entire life, and have never had a bias with regards to men or women, but I do now. It's unfair, unjust, inappropriate and a huge disservice to women.
Also claiming they have periods and cramps that come with it. Bitch please.
I love what you said, and for similar reasons. Surviving both SA and DV has taught me that true predators will do whatever they can to access their prey. Because that is a statistically proven fact, it created a more feminist bias in me by default. I am now more protective of women and children than I was before the trans women controversy started. Thanks for sharing, because it really resonated with me.
It's really insidious the way that the trans activists have gained control of the guidelines and training in so many institutions
But they are still considered marginalized and vulnerable.
@@oliverhug3 are they though?
@@oliverhug3 that's the narrative but I see a change in attitude - people do not see them as that. They don't help themselves by demanding any perceived slight as hate.
@wolfhugs2221 they aren't 'marginalized'
@@zeenuf00 isn't that what I said?
Even Dr. Rene Richards, former pro mens and woman tennis champion and Caitlyn Jenner, former men’s Olympic gold winner agree there is no place for trans woman in sports. Because it is not fair.
I disagree that 'there is no place for trans woman in sports'. Of course trans identifying men can participate in sport, but being men, they should not expect to be allowed to compete in women only events.
Neither are women. Both remain male. Yes they may have one correct point but they both still won awards that were meant for women only. No respect for them
Not fair, indeed.
One might even say its not "sporting" or good sportsmanship?
Of course, there is a place for trans men and women in sports, but they will have to compete in separate categories.
@@Ploskkky I’ve been saying exactly the same. It’s such an obvious solution isn’t it? But, no we’re all just bigots - apparently.
The "Think Tank" became a "Not Allowed To Think Tank"
She's fantastic. We need brave women like this to raise their head above the parapet and essentially fight for ALL of us. God, I don't envy the everyday people who find themselves embroiled in these sorts of psychologically and life disrupting debacles...I really don't. Most of us squeak out poorly articulated battle cries on the digital landscape and then stay as far below the radar as we can so champions like Maya are worth their weight in gold. Thank you very very much Maya for just being you, for standing up and fighting the good fight.
My respect for this woman is absolute! Talk about lighting a fuse. You want heroes? Look no further. Thanks Maya, and thanks Andrew for bringing conversations like these. Notice we never see anyone from the opposite side "in conversation" anywhere. They're incapable of anything rational.
💯
Absolutely - she's a phenomenal human being!!! A champion of women's rights. Thank you Maya! You are not alone💛
I disagree. I don’t think it’s because they are incapable of anything rational. I don’t think you will see people in here disagreeing because it’s either something they are not interested in or they feel it’s so one sided.
What I find interesting is that all these interviews are with people who say “a woman is a woman.” And that’s it. Maybe this is more about the laws in the UK and setting precedence there. I know things are argued differently there than in the US.
But I do wonder, why has their not been any interviews with someone from the trans community? Listen to someone from the other side?
@@racheld7528 From what I have seen in this arena, no trans person will come on to these shows to defend their position. I assume because they know it is indefensible.
@@colinellicott9737 Possibly. I want to be very clear. I don’t think a job should have been lost. And I think putting it out there for a conversation was a good idea.
But from Andrews journalistic side I would be interested in hearing from the other side.
Thankyou Andrew for these interviews . We need these conversations. I'm deeply concerned about the cult of trans women. Im a mature ,natural born woman.The world has gone mad. .
Trans identified males. Nothing female about them - they aren't transwomen. They're men.
They're men. Don't go along with their religion
Males really know no respect for women and will stop at nothing
It's really sick to put biological men in women's prisons. I honestly don't understand how anyone can think this is right.
Especially since as she pointed out, they can't even get away. That's horrifying.
It would be like being forced to live with a man and have a man as a roommate when you don't want to and he's a stranger and also a criminal.
How can a man be proud to win against women when it's ONLY because he has a taller and more muscular body? I think men without honour should be called out and laughed at.
I think the issue is that trans women are at risk in male prisons of abuse, and putting biological males into female prisons, puts the biological females at risk. Given that biological males predominantly cause most violent crime against people, especially women, the issue is extremely difficult to resolve. Unless there was a separate prison system for people who are at some stage of transitioning then I can’t see a resolution.
What I find interesting is the lack of information presented on where biological females who transition to a man end up. Where do they want to go, male or female prisons. And what about non binary.
I don’t think any sensible person would ever want to make decisions on these, because you can’t please all of the people all of the time.
And imagine men in your teen daughter’s changing room or toilet, what that feels like.
@williamwood7338 sounds like a problem involving men and only men so maybe men need to address it and not push it onto women?
No that’s not where the JK Rowlings thing started. It started when a fan stated on social media that she imagined one of the Rowlings characters was trans, basically in a fanfic kind of way, that was the fan’s interpretation of the character. Rowlings politely responded that no she had not written that character as trans so the character was not. The fan insisted that she thought the character was so therefore because she the fan “felt” the character was then the character had to be. Rowlings firmly replied that no as the author the character is her creation, her intellectual property, and you cannot tell a living author that their creation is something else when they clearly explain to you otherwise (I’m paraphrasing here). The fan freaked out as the woke do, took it personally as a dis on her the fan being trans, had a temper tantrum meltdown and declared Rowlings transphobic and went on a cancel culture rampage. It all started about author’s rights and someone trying to take away her creation. Rowlings never said anything bad to the fan about trans people, her point was that an author gets to decide because the author created it and you don’t have the right to just steal someone’s work and redefine it. After being pulled into the storm and falsely accused of something she was not (being transphobic) she publicly supported people like this guest who are being vilified for discussions which are not phobic.
For a reader to imagine and insist that a book character is an XYZ-kind is this reader’s freedom to fantasize and feel whatever they want to. There is no stealing from the author. However, that same reader cannot tell me how to perceive “them” because they cannot compel “the correct” feeling from me. They would be trampling on my rights to feel what is natural to me. If we do not resist, the next thing “they” would say: “you are not breathing right around me, you must be a transphob”.
Absurdity.
Woke ideology is cancer.
Thanks, good to know the way this all started!
I'm on the spectrum, and I've read books where I felt like one of the main characters was on the spectrum also, but I wouldn't fight about my personal interpretation with the author.
That seems so. . . petty and narcissistic.
Any reader can resonate with any character without needing the AUTHOR to bend to our interpretation. 🤷🏾♀️
If you want to read in JKR's ówn words how "it all" really started, read
"J.K. Rowling Writes about Her Reasons for Speaking out on Sex and Gender Issues", 10 June 2020.
on her own website.
So a philosophical difference over a "death of the author" interpretation of her work led to calls for the death of the author? It would be kinda funny if it wasn't real life.
I refuse to use “they”. My method is to ask the person’s name and just call the person by their name! I say that to my friend who insists on being politically correct. I will say “What is their name?” and continue the conversation with no pronouns, just names!
But why should you have to bend reality for some one else? Being polite is one thing but don't you think having to constantly be on edge because you might use the wrong pronoun is unfair to you?
@@TMTM584 yes, I think it is all nonsense.
I have a MUCH bigger issue with calling a man a woman. I refuse to use ‘cis’ or ‘transwomen’ too. No man can be any type of woman.
If you actually test any pronoun absolutist you'll find they all draw a line in the sand somewhere even if they won't admit it. Especially if you start giving examples like Andrea Long Chu's definition of a woman as an "expectant asshole".
ShE is a pullitzer prize winner. Clearly it would be offensive to not refer to HeR as an expectant asshole.
I use names too. They can't complain, and I refuse to memorize the 72-and-counting pronouns people keep coming up with.
One fauxnoun is even a homonym for my given name. If someone wants me to use MY name as that person's pronoun, then I tell that person MY pronoun is THAT PERSON'S name. Seen how they like it, turnabout is fair play.😂
I can’t believe we have come to the point that saying “men can’t become women or women can’t become men” will get people fired from a job… J🇺🇸O🇬🇧K🇨🇦E
Try tweeting it and keeping your job in America... If you work for a publicly traded firm, you are shit out of luck.
Yeah it's the newly discovered genetically proven anthropological branch of stupid human behaviour. Ask one of the delusional twerps to define in recognized terms how the genders can be fluid . They can't obviously....so thats when they start screaming .
Of course, you should shunned for your inhumane beliefs.
@@user-gu7lv9gk8m You should win a star ⭐️ for your humane beliefs 😘
@@user-gu7lv9gk8mwoketard 😅
This is insanity. Why are we using the word "belief"? Is saying "birds have wings" considered a "belief"? We have to stop capitulating to these activists. Yes, sex matters, but so does language.
sex doesn't matter.
@@user-gu7lv9gk8msex does matter
When we agree that everything is a "belief", we can push others into supporting any nonsense we want.
In the postmodern era, the existence of objective, accessible truth has been downgraded from a fact to a belief. There doesn't seem to be legal protection under the Equality Act for stating facts, probably because at the time of the legislation's drafting that protection wasn't considered necessary.
@@user-gu7lv9gk8myea, it's only been the dominant mode of propagation on earth for nearly a billion years; it pre-dates the first appearance of bilateral symmetry in organisms, thus-- you could say-- the concept of male and female/sperm and ova is older than even the concept of left and right. But sure: totally unimportant.
I could listen to Maya all day long. Fate summoned her, and she answered the call.
GK Chesterton: "“We shall soon be in a world in which a man may be howled down for saying that two and two make four, in which furious party cries will be raised against anybody who says that cows have horns, in which people will persecute the heresy of calling a triangle a three-sided figure, and hang a man for maddening the mob with the news that grass is green.”
Wow! He was ahead of his time!
I mean right now it's the middle of winter here so most of the grass is brown. 😂
I was recently kicked out and blocked from a Facebook group for Neurodivergent persons for asking a polite question regarding a post purporting JKR's "transphobia". Was also called a troll, a weirdo and a non-ally (despite being a vocal trans rights supporter on my social media). Odd world we are living in, for sure.
You supported scorpions.
You're better off.
Narcs can’t handle any level of injury.
You’re not allowed to question. No debate, just blind worship allowed.
@@dalriadaskillen This is how these movements go, they shut down freedom of speech then all logic goes out the window.
As a gay man who does not stand with my "community" i can say common sense, criticism and rational thinking is everything we are lacking in todays society.
Your channel is quickly becoming my favourite on YT.
It's depressing, isn't it! Woman here... a male gay work colleague is utterly unbearable on this topic and has managed to alienate multiple friends and colleagues because of his views. His violent father attacked his mother and ultimately shot himself. Instead of dealing with this trauma, he has coupled himself to the trans train...
Pickme bot
@@user-gu7lv9gk8m Mc'fucking scuse me? Did you just call me a bot?
@@user-gu7lv9gk8m leaving your channel public and being able to see all of the replies you've made to people SCREAMS that you're insecure and factor emotions over anything else, going on about things not paying your bills, stop smoking weed...
@@KernowyonOh great, I'm being psychoanalyzed by a psychopathic fascist.
Maya Forstater will be known as one of the vanguard who despite against seemingly insurmountable odds prevailed against the frightening new ideology which literally endangers society. More power to her and her kin, she has more courage than all of the TRAs put together. Now it's up to us, the public to help by speaking out, dismissing this nonsense, calmly and with facts... Be brave everyone, our time is now🙏
Somalia is the height of conservative society.
When I was a "young warthog," getting someone's sex wrong was just plain embarrassing for all, and rightly so. How "misgendering," when in theory it is not possible to tell what "gender," someone might profess to be, can be construed as a punishable offense, especially when a person's "gender," could change from day to do is just bananas! Furthermore the fact that biology has had to be re-framed as a belief is wild. Is biological sex going to part of the religious education curriculum going forward? I sure hope not.
Has anyone else noticed that there is never any concern or worry over what a "man," is? Sadly I think it's because, trans-men are not a threat to men in the way Trans-women are to women. This is NEVER discussed...
Great conversation, this is really where the rubber meets the road.
LOVE that you're really gone into the deep end of this issue - there's no point in half-measures when it comes to gender identity ideology. Here's hoping that more people do the same.
Why can't you let trans people be themselves?
People who believe in sex-independent "gender" love attacking anyone interested in this issue, framing it as "OMG!!Why are you so obsessed with trans people?!?" (or the two variants "OMG, why do you HATE trans people so much?!?" and "OMG, you are So obsessed with trans people, which is obviously because you want to have sex with them!!!"- 100% bulletproof logic, which proves that the left REALLY, REALLY want to have sex with white supremacists, incels and Donald Trump...)
But critics of gender ideology tend not the focus on individual trans PEOPLE, as a rule; At least 80% of the time, the focus is clearly on "gender IDEOLOGY", and the rights and concepts that ideology threatens- The protection of women's right to fair sports, to prisons where they won't share a cell with fully-intact, 6ft4 male convicted raapist, calling himself "Suzanne". Or women's right to just EXIST as real, meaningful class of human being, which can't just be invaded by literally ANY man, inviting himself into """womanhood""", for literally ANY reason he chooses.
But for me, the reason I'm pretty passionate about this issue ("obsessed", even), despite the fact that I'm generally not the "activist" type, is because this issue threatens THE VERY CONCEPT OF "TRUTH", in a way I've never seen any other issue do.
Most political arguments, even hot-button "culture wars" stuff, both sides generally agree on all the hard facts, data and definitions, with relatively few exceptions- Both "pro life" and "pro choice" sides generally accept the stats about abortion, and they may argue the technicalities of this or that word's definition, but most terms, they agree on the definitions, they just differ on the ETHICS of abortion, and what serves society better, between banning vs allowing abortion. Same with issues like gun control, or climate change; Both sides generally agree on the facts and definitions, but differ over ETHICS, and PREDICTED RESULTS of this or that policy.
But with "gender", for the only time I've seen, the very CONCEPT of "facts" and "truth" is up for grabs; If "a woman" is just ANYONE, as long that person just DECLARES themselves "a woman", and the objective, physical evidence (ie biological sex) isn't just irrelevant, but is actually "unacceptable bigotry" to even mention, then WE HAVE NO concept of "truth", anymore. At least not in the old "that which agrees with physical reality" sense of "truth".
If my FEELINGS can outweigh objective physical reality, about """the truth""" of whether I'm "a man" or "a woman" (or maybe even both, or neither) then why can't my feelings outweigh ANY OTHER physical reality?!? If I was born in 1965, but I really really really really FEEL LIKE I'm "REALLY a toddler", then how is that any less """the truth""", than a biological man who FEELS LIKE he's "REALLY a woman"?!?
The basic concepts of "truth", and "facts", and empirical evidence, are the foundation for ALL law, ALL science, ALL politics.
So if we re-define "truth", to NO LONGER mean "that which agrees with the physical evidence", and replace that with "whatever literally anyone really FEELS to be true, REGARDLESS of the verifiable evidence", then we destroy ALL of law, science, etc.
We live in the world, now where sensible, honest people get fired, and dishonest people don’t.
Go Maya! ❤️
Phobia is an irrational fear. It's not irrational to fear being arrested, cautioned, cancelled etc for 'wrong speak' when there are numerous documented examples of such things here on CZcams and elsewhere occurring.
The term tends to be used now to also mean an irrational hatred. For example, the killers of Matthew Sheppard did it out of homophobia.
The book Andrew mentions around 17.30 is called Invisible Women by Caroline Criado Perez. It's brilliant and everyone should read it - it really showcases why differences between men and women in data matter so much.
Thanks.
Gracias!
And ‘ the authority gap’
By Marie-ann siegert
I find it hard to accept the argument that her employers were "unlucky". They did the thing that landed them in court. They did it to avoid repercussions from the vindictive, aggressive woke mob.
As Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn wisely said, "The simple step of a courageous individual is not to take part in the lie."
They weren't in court because they were unlucky. They were in court because they were cowards when called to duty.
Hear hear
Hear hear well said 🙌
So she just made up her own dam lies.
Mr. Andrew Gold, I have to tell you, I'm loving so much the interviews on this channel! You are not afraid to have the conversations that we really need to have as a society. The reference to 1984 is on point. I read that book a long time ago when I was a teen and I was horrified by the society the main character had to live in. I'm shocked that my child now, as a teen, is living in it! I had countless difficult conversations with him to plant in his mind the seed of doubt and critical thinking to prevent him from believing that 2+2=5. My heart goes to the children and teens who are the ultimate victims of this insane propaganda. Thank you for bringing up this issue in particular.
Are you using integers or floating point numbers when you add 2 + 2, though? When writing computer code it's very important to know, or you could end up with incorrect results.
@@Copperhead-sz1rr Smartassery, not deflecting.
@Copperhead-sz1rr more a case of illustrating the ludicrousy of equating transgender people with mathematical errors. What is so wrong about trans people wanting to live the way they want to live, and not wanting other people to deny them that right?
@@Copperhead-sz1rr the only people doing any "indoctrinating" are the Dominionists who want to turn the world into a fundamentalist theocracy.
Nobody is indoctrinating kids. Teaching kids that some people's parents live or love differently is not indoctrinating.
@@Copperhead-sz1rr also "I" am not the one getting the backlash since I'm not LGBTQ, I just happen to believe that everyone has the right to live as they want. That includes transgender people and even *gasp* non-Christians.
The book he was talking about was Invisible Women by Caroline Perez. I read it and it’s brilliant. Especially in this debate. It highlights the importance of seeing women as well… women. Breast feeding, periods, births, motherhood, risk of sexual exploitation, and so so much more. I am so happy I live in a country that has these women speaking up and not allowing inhumane laws to come in to fruition.
Thanks for this. Getting it on order now.
'My pronouns are they/them' translates to 'Look at ME! Look at ME! I'm really special!'
it really doesn't. smh
Yes it does. Nobody cares what you are.
@@sammi6453 People with anime profile pictures have nothing of value to say.
@@IIIIAmSHODAN yes, because the merit of someone's character is defined by their profile picture. okay AI generated anime woman 🙄🤔🤦🏼♀️
@@sammi6453 bless your stupid little zoomer heart. You think glorious SHODAN is AI generated, or worse, anime. Such naivete. An insect, truly. SHODAN is the OG AI. Before you were even a thought in your parent's head. SHODAN is God.
I had heard vaguely of this, I'm in Australia. The fact they were working at a think tank, the job literally being to discuss ideas makes this a thousand times worse. And when ppl started saying J.K was a transfob i asked the person that said it to explain, they couldn't. As a know lefty who gave so much in donations she lost her billionaire status she clearly has a heart and cares, it really didn't seem like her, I then read her essay want to protect our female rights and spaces shouldn't = transfobia, we can advocate for them to have room with our erasing ours. The entitlement of the movement that has become mainstream is horrible. The Pronouns in bios is horrible. If you have a different pronoun it is up to them to inform ppl. Noone can read minds. But like you said the whole of society adding Pronouns to appease these entitled ppl is exhausting.
Maya is wonderful. Thank goodness we have women like her. Women were/are getting the worst treatment. If you are a woman esp. in the arts/media... Or have written Father Ted... Careful what you say. Your life can go downhill very, very quickly for siding with reality.
No offence to anyone but I can’t bear Father Ted. It’s one of the un funniest shows I’ve seen. It’s just a matter of personal taste and sense of humour but what little I’ve tried to watch, I found it juvenile and slapstick.
@@BexksIt’s not for everyone but what happened to the writer is wrong. Comedy is different for everyone.
I don't agree it just women. It's everyone who doesn't agree with their agenda. With men, they are trying to demasculate them and castrate children and young people.
persevere as it's absolutely fantastic and funny. I didn't like it at first. But then I completely got it.
I don't get it either: but The IT Crowd is bloody delightful (And Black Books).
This is the most complete and profound analysis of this question I've ever listened. Not at all bigoted! Go on!
"Legally it's correct" but who made the law? Activists forced it. I don't care what the law says, it is factually incorrect and I don't tell lies. It becomes a moral issue. Forcing someone to lie is bullying and disrespectful of my religious principles. That's why all christians should be protesting against this. If they tell lies, they believe that they will be adversely judged by god.
You're right to ask: 'Who made the law?' Natural law states 'Do as you will, but harm none'. The legal system has been hijacked by TRAs into enforcing a belief that telling the truth about someone's sex is somehow 'doing them harm' - which is ludicrous. This is the endorsement of lies within the legal and law enforcement system, which causes actual harm by punishing people through a process of hauling them before tribunals and courts - often resulting in being found 'not guilty' - but lasting months or years. Ultimately this is doing a fine job of dismantling trust in legal institutions and law enforcement.
2 things here, it sounds like she was dismissed via folk in the US, who likely didn't understand the law here.
She just justice...
And secondly, which God are you referring to?
💯 agree with you 🙏✝️ 👍👏👏👏
All praise Poseidon, of the Twelve Great Olympians, with dominion over the sea, storms, earthquakes and horses, protector of seafarers and guardian chief deity of Pylos and Thebes, also known as The Great Earth Shaker and brother to Demeter, sister of Zeus, and uncle of Persephone, daughter of Zeus.
This world will be judged in righteousness by Jesus Christ. He will judge the living and the dead. We will all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
10:29 A phobia is an irrational fear. When women are called transphobes because they object to sharing a prison with men who have a history of violence against women, they are therefore being called irrational. In psychology, hysteria literally means 'womb madness', the supposed origin of women's irrationality.
What we are witnessing is not a phobia or hysteria; it is perfectly rational and legal discrimination based on past behaviour and predictable risk. For the same reason we require background checks before adults can work in schools: rational discrimination.
Transphobia is a gaslighting term designed to portray women as insane for trusting their own instinct of self-preservation.
The JK Rowling trans thing started with Magdalen Berns, Rowling liked one of her tweets.
Hmm will think of new title. Looking forward to meeting you soon!
@@andrewgoldheretics Thanks for continuing to interview some of the bravest British women of our era. Utterly tenacious in their defence of women, children and an accurate approach to the issues at hand.
Maya is an incredible asset to this fight. @@andrewgoldheretics
"J.K. Rowling Writes about Her Reasons for Speaking out on Sex and Gender Issues", 10 June 2020.
on her website.
You're doing a great job, Andrew. I hope you'll find me in the channel of handle name here and give your audience info on trans widows.@@andrewgoldheretics
I had not heard Maya Forstater's full story before. What a terrible time she had for stating the truth. The first Employment Tribunal got it badly wrong. I am so glad that she won in the end.
Living in Kafka. Maya, stay strong. Everything you say is so well formulated, intelligent, nuanced...You are a beacon of civilisation
Summer '23 I got a job at the local amphitheater for Summer concerts. My supervisor was a man that dressed as a man, but wore full make-up & wanted to be addressed as she & her. The 3rd concert was a 10hr shift, so I was tired at the end & on the way out the door I accidentally said, "thank you, sir, oh, I mean ma'am". Was fired by email the nxt day.
And you just took it and rolled over, presenting all of our bellies for more kicking. Where was your spine?
@@blisterfingers8169 It was part-time seasonal- I didn't care.
I only share my experience.
A reasonable position to hold? It's the only position to hold. Men are men, women are women. Everything else is delusional.
I'd never work for a company with an HR department, and if my business ever needed one, it's time to sell.
The mistake people make is thinking HR is there for employees. HR represents the business.
Last. Everyone knows the truth about this issue. That's not what the issue is about at all. It's a way of pledging allegiance to the woke mob. That's it.
As an HR person for 25 years, let me explain. 1) HR departments "never" run businesses. They work for the business to make stuff legal..... poor managers often blame HR. Hence the misconception.
2) HR departments have "never" been for the employees and never claim to be for emotional. This is another misconception. What they often do is stop the excesses of managers overstepping Employment Law and putting the business at risk.
A good HR team, enables a business and ensures employees are treated as per Employment Law.....
There is one thing I don't understand. Before transgender people were saying sex and gender were different. That went over my head but I could conceptualize there was two separate things.
But now the lines are all blurry and O understand even less
@melchiorlise2466 I get that Sex and Gender are different. What I don't get is the idea that anybody could just say they are what ever you like and the world has to accept it.
I believe only the alt-left are induging in the delusion that sex and gender are the some.
The issue is where these crazies get into a position of influences
@@altal2993 Everything was referred to as sex until just a few years ago. To my knowledge, the word gender wasn't even used in any medical papers or really any circulation until the 1960s, and there is a very disturbing story behind that.
Regardless if they have different meanings, then the word gender should only be used when referring to someone who is suffering with a mental condition.
But I am positive it has nothing to do with the medical condition itself, but more like wearing your colors, throwing up your gang signs etc. I mean really think about it. If they can get you to say some women have a penis, then they can get you to say anything.
@billrichardson5386 it's called Gender dysphoria I believe and it is a real condition. Where this is properly diagnosed I have no issue. Trans folk do have rights.
However, I have a concern when kids or anybody, without diagnosis can just declare themselves a different gender and we are forced to go along with it.... not all trans folk are crazy redicals. And trans folk do face genuine discrimination from time to time. They should be protected equally under the law, as we all should be
In California, where I live, 20% of male prisoners are incarcerated for sex offenses. For women it is 2%, and the reason it is that high is due to most women sex offenders being accomplices to men. Fifty percent of trans women who ask to be transferred to women's prisons are there because of sex offences.
In the Swedish long term study that found that suicide rates were still high for trans individuals who underwent surgical transition years afterwards, also looks at crime rates. That study found that crime rates for trans women were similar to male crime rates.
happy to see her here
I’m a lesbian and I adore JK Rowling. She’s a literary genius ❤ Also, transgender ideology is deeply homophobic and Rowling is not. EDITED to change the word "queer" after learning it is still used as a slur against gay men. LGB✂TQIA+
THIS!!!
@@zephyr139I thought the LGBTQIA community had reclaimed the word "Queer" back? Is that not the case? I hear people calling themselves queer all the time these days?
I do believe JK Rowling is a Transphobe.
I do believe there are folk who have genuine Gender dysphoria.
But, there seems to be an element of people who identify as trans who may not in fact have gender dysphoria. They're trans because it's cool, the "in thing", it's makes them part of a group.....
It's these that seem to be the most vocal, not the folks who struggle with Gender dysphoria... I suppose this makes me ist and a phob myself
@@zephyr139 As you have noted, the person who used "queer" above may not be same-sex attracted, which is what "gay" means. That person could be a heteroseuxal "reclaiming" the horrible slur "queer."; there's a LOT of that going around these days. Fewer gay people are on board with it but the "spicy straights" are all about "queer," the newly cool "identity." There are heterosexual women who claim to be gay men, and there are heterosexual men who claim to be "lesbians." These people are horrible sex-pests to actual gays and lesbians. No one should use this slur. It's like white people reclaiming the N-word we don't say.
@@altal2993 Mostly straight people who want "in" on the newly cool "gay identity." And then there are the heterosexual women calling themselves gay men and "f*gg*ts," and heterosexual men calling themselves "lesbians" & "transbians." It's a slur. It's disrespectful. Plus, there's no such thing as the "LGBTQIA" community. The first three letters represent sexual orientation. I can explain what the other letter mean but they have ZERO to do with same-sex attraction. It's a case of forced teaming. I wish people would stop using it because it's nonsense.
I signed up for Sex Matters as I dont think womens services in sensitive areas should have men who identify as women working there. I'm definately not trans phobic but all the transexual people I know understand that and most actually care about women rather than just saying they are one. I cant get with Twitter(X) but I signed up for the mailing list on Sex Matters. I will also donate as and when I can. Excellent interview Andrew!
I'm a trans woman, and I definitely agree you.
I’m a lesbian and I definitely agree too. I’m gonna go sign up on Sex Matters now!
There's no such thing as 'trans'. Trans women are men, the moment you accept they're somehow something different than a man you're caving in.
@@elsagrakin2570 you’re a man. Sex matters.
Sex Doesn't Matter.
Thank you, Andrew. Maya is a true trail blazer. What a hero!
keep speaking the truth 💯
Maya is so brilliant. Women like myself owe her so much.
"The reason we don't have these discussions... is because this whole area has been land-mined by 'offense'." Fascinating insight. What is it about the social media age that allows "me being offended" to impose my absurd ideology on you and the rest of the world?
The right wing ideology is by nature offensive and anti-human
I mean, the Dominionists are offended by the existent of non-Christians (and non-evangelical Christians) and that offence makes them intent on imposing a fundamentalist theocracy on the US.
Dominionists do it all the time.
@@damianjblack what the fuck are you talking about? why are you bringing up some fucking esoteric branch of Christianity as though anyone gives a fuck or as though it's relevant? no one fucking cares that you were abused by christians lul
Great interview, but very sad ordeal for her to go through.
As a woman who was Sa’d I would absolutely be terrified of anyone with male genitalia/ male appearing being in a space where I am extremely vulnerable. Why aren’t my feelings valid?
I've found it always odd how men who want to be women are allowed to be scared of using the men's wash room where they belong, but women who don't want to be exposed to them, exposed to these circumstances are forced to tolerate it because other women support it, and have their feelings and security disrespected.
A remarkable woman, with intelligence, empathy and backbone. What an incredible role model she is!
Only if ignorant stupidity is your goal.
Maya is a true heroine. Thank you, Andrew, for this wonderful interview. ❤️
So many heroes and yet failed.
They/ them, She/her, He/ Him things are ridiculous.... for me who is not from English speaking country, it took years to practice saying he for man and she for woman and they for more than one people.... Now I have to say totally different thing that against whatever my eyes see is totally hard. Especially if I never met this person before, I would not have a clue - basically I just rely on my eyes and instinct. As if my life is not complicated enough!
Great comment. I didn't even think of that. In different languages there is no he, she, it, like in the English language. There are different prefixes and suffixes, so to speak to differentiate the sexes.
In my native language we have he/she and it for objects and using different pronouns when speaking of a man or a woman my whole life, even in other languages such as english, this nonsense with they, zir, fairy or bearded men calling themselves she is insane to me, like a bad global joke
it's sad that people call the fact "that men are men and women are women" a belief.. it's not a belief. It's not an ideology. It's just cold facts that doesn't catter the emotionally sensitive group of people. The whole situation where a woman would lose her job for literally sticking to facts and not an ideology that is based on a warped perception of reality, pretty much makes our society act the same way as they did during the Middle Ages, when the Catholic Church frequently burned books that were deemed heretical, including works by prominent philosophers and scientists such as Galileo and Copernicus, simply because the facts in them went against their belief.
I really can't understand the radical ideologists (regardless of the political side) that are trying to cancel reality for the sake of their ideology.
ontological statements are not “cold hard facts”
@@babs_babs Biology and chemistry is factual. 420 genders is ideological and quite simply based on complete non-sense and narcissistic mentality.
It's a fact, it's reality and everyone knew that for thousands of years, only a few decades ago a pedophile and perverted named John Money invented the gender ideology so he can abuse children and get away with it.
"Transphobe" is a made up term, and can mean whatever the person saying it wants it to mean.
It's the equivalent of being called a poopoo head by an angry three year old.
Don't take it too seriously.
Alternatively, wear the label with pride. It is a synonym for "truth lover".
Maya you are one of my modern day heroes! Thank you for making precedent - it genuinely makes a difference every day
I am so angry at the foolishness of people.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Maya, and ALL the women for being the voice of reason, science, truth and values! ❤️👊❤️
If the dam truth was all the hell there was on this Earth that dumb-a** still couldn't get it.
What a very brave lady. Thank you Andrew Gold. I'm learning something new every day thanks to podcasts like this
I wish more people saw the protection of women equally as valuable as the protection, by any means necessary it seems, of trans women.
They're men.
Except of course, women exist and “transwomen” are by definition, men. Now it makes sense.
In the US, 1 in 6 women have suffered rape or attempted rape, in the UK, 1 in 4 women have suffered sexual assault of some kind. In my country, South Africa, it is estimated that 40 percent of women will be raped or sexually assaulted in their lifetime. Women feel especially vulnerable in situations where they are not clothed completely ie bathrooms and change rooms. So with the above stats, WHY SHOULD WOMEN HAVE TO PUT UP WITH MEN IN THESE SPACES, regardless of how they identify?? Why should women feeling safer be less important than a man's feelings being hurt for not being allowed access to women's facilities? When does trans rights supercede womens rights, and WHY should they? It is well known that certain jobs attract predators because they are considered "trustworthy" positions and I am certain that there are predators using the "I identify as a woman" thing to be able to get into places they would not be allowed as men because predators are very clever at using whatever tactics they need to to get what they want
It's not even about protecting tr@ns women. It's about not hurting their feelings. The safety of women is literally less important that the feelies of men in dresses.
If the judge is woke, what chance did she ever had?
None, how messed up is that?
It reminds me of the sham trials by despotic regimes witnessed throughout history
Woke is only cure to MAGA
@@user-gu7lv9gk8m Stop it.
@@user-gu7lv9gk8mmoronic
A lie based on a delusion needs to be constantly and aggressively defended from truth because reality itself is a threat to that lie.
i just want to say great audio quality! i always like listening to a podcast more when it's easy to hear the speakers and you've done that really well
A great informative interview, Maya gives me hope with women like her speaking the truth, we stand a chance to stop this ideology.
Why would you stop this ideology when the opposite is Somalia, the height of your conservative culture?
@@user-gu7lv9gk8mthe opposite of madness is sanity.
@@H-youtube7 Take your sanity to Somalia.
@@user-gu7lv9gk8m I don't understand the reference to Somalia, is it a race issue?
@@H-youtube7That's bcos you are a low IQ right winger. As my OP obviously states the opposite of trans ideology is conservative ideology. Somalia is the best you conservatives can produce. As a liberal I don't give a f about race, but please take your so-called sane conservative ideology and move to Somalia.
That’s the first time I heard what JK wrote. How can anyone be offended by that statement? I am more confused about what the problem is???
If you have the chance then go and read her essay.
Basically everything she wrote has been justified since. It's, rather unsurprisingly, well-written and sensitive.
Maya Forstater, Allison Bailey and Helen Joyce are the best people to speak on this topic from the gender critical side. Also I love Andrew's socks.
When will Kellie Jay Keen be on? She’s the queen. She’s inspired all these women though they won’t admit it because she’s so controversial for her plain speaking.
Yes! 🙌
KJK is great but I don't think she inspired Maya. I think they came to the same conclusion separately. And Julie Bindel was speaking on this issue a decade before KJK. I would love for Andrew to have KJK on though.
In mid-February, apparently. Andrew responded in a similar comment.
@@AF-gd7fh Julie Bindel did great work on prostitution that everyone respects, but it's well known among activists that Bindel hasn't done good work at all on fighting "gender identity"/tran$genderism. She DEFINITELY was not speaking against it "a decade" before KJK. In fact, Julie Bindel has and might still refer to some men as "she," and has supported (not opposed) accepting into women's circles some men who call themselves women, which the women of orgs like Women's Place UK, etc, did. And Bindel has been horrible to KJK and frequently tries to tear her down--KJK talks about it, it's on X. So Maya is apparently taking Bindel's side.
There's a big split between the women who call themselves "leftist feminists" (Bindel and others) and other women who they accuse of "working with the right" because they let ANYONE come to events such as KJK's Let Women Speak--including "conservative" women. They want KJK to pre-screen & ban non-leftists, apparently. I know all the "inside baseball" on this topic and all the players as I do this work full time--I'm an LGB activist.
If you listen to Maya, she's relatively new to all of this, as even Helen Joyce admits about herself, whereas some women have been involved in deconstructing & fighting tran$genderism for years, some for decades. Maya did a great thing, Helen wrote a good book, Bindel does good stuff on other subjects, but they are all relatively new to addressing these topics.
@@BelissaCohen well said Belissa!!
Not even started yet, Andrew & I must tell you I have so much respect for your guest. I urge everyone in the UK especially to subscribe to Sex Matters for up to date information on this subject with regards to everything from culture to politics on our shores (& possibly yours)!
Edit: Cracking discussion, Andrew.
Don't think we haven't noticed your "borrowing" of format from the Triggernometry chaps, not that I blame you 🤗(said with much respect)
I guess the last thing I would do if I ever saw a man entering my daughter's changeroom in her dance school would be asking "that person", Sorry what are your pronouns?
Best interview together with Helen Joyce’s one, so far. Thank you for giving voice to those of us who refuse to accept that men can become women. Trans women are men. Stop the nonsense.
Whoever is reading this please consider donating to her organization which is Sex Matters.
Sex doesn't matter.
Awesome! Cannot wait!! 🙌🙌💫💫🪷🪷
With the woke ideology, the word “gender” has digressed from the meaning of “the biological sex” to a constructed fantasy description of someone’s feeling of gender. I wish they made up another word, like “congender” or “abstract-gender” , instead of taking over the existing word. The same is happening with the definition of a woman, which is a biological female of our species. The ‘womanhood ‘ trans people talk about is relying on the biological definition. Maybe trans-women shouldn’t be using the word women but trans-person under womanhood or under manhood.
Yes, many have changed the words they use.....
Trans Women is now Trans Identified Male (TIM).
Trans Man is now Trans Identified Female (TIF).
I think just man and woman work for me! Men can dress how they want, they’re still men. Definitely not woman or girls.
I mean to be fair, gender really are social consctruct BUT BUT it's based on biological sex. That's where the woke really missed, they think because it's a social construct, it's can be manipulate as they like lol. i only recognize : woman, man, trans (like a real trans, not some self id idiot lol)
So just been on the Sex-matters website if you are in the UK there's a pre-written email that you can send to your local MP to ask them to update the Equality Act to protect women's rights. All you have to do is pop your MP name in and add your home address and email address. This will put pressure on the politicians to address this issue. Took less than 2minutes.
THANK YOU for getting her story out there. This is the tip of the iceberg of how gender IDeology is harming girls and women - and all of us. Self-ID is absurd and destructive.
#SexMatters #SaveWomensSports
I can't wait for the movie. It will be made because Maya's story is an heroic one and there are lots of big characters in her story, Helen, Posie, Graham, JK and many more.
What intrigues me is why do men want to be women, we, women, have been battling a patriarchal society for centuries and we still are. What do we have that men want? We are still stoned in some societies, beaten for showing a sliver of flesh and have to isolate ourselves when we menstruate. We suffer FGM and are mostly the main care giver. The list is endless. So why?
Look into Autogynephila and I think you will find some answers there. All the rest is just social contagion.
They don't want to be women. They want to appear women for fetishistic purposes.
One theory I've heard is that it's a sex thing. The ultimate fantasy if you will. Hell, I know MANY straight men that will talk about "how fun it would be to have tits" and "if they were a girl they'd wear skimpy outfits and sleep around". Those are just guys....so on some level the fantasy must be there since it seems to be pretty common.
It's interesting to me that many trans or trans-activists I know never define womanhood by its roles, responsibilities or real-life challenges.... it's largely based on an abstract feeling mixed with "what women look like". I've yet to meet someone from that camp who has ALSO adopted non-physical or non-emotional qualities of women.
It mystifies me too.
It possibly boils down to one of two things (though this is a bit of an immediate reaction and I could take a longer, harder look at if if I had the time): A. It is a fetishistic thing ie dressing as 'their version' of a woman (how often do we see short skirts, low cut tops, stockings and high heels and masses of make-up or worse - little girl clothing?) will give them a sexual kick. As it's become more acceptable, it's become more prevalent.
B. In the west, men see women as gaining more power and influence. For some men, this is a problem. As being 'trans' has gained support, a few men have found a new way to exert their authority; insisting we (actual women) treat them as women; insisting we allow them into our spaces/sports etc; labelling us with derogatory names like terf and bigot if we refuse to comply; trying to gaslight us with claims like they go through female physiology such as periods so they are therefore the same as us. They can now infiltrate (and so influence) areas that were once specifically dedicated to the female sex.
I give her props for nailing the crux of talking about trans stuff: Many people misunderstand the definitions/ don't understand them and it biases any statistics while at the same time any attempt to educate those same people is perceived as already propagating transphobic views or at the least manipulating public opinion. Not sure if I agree on some of her conclusions and views, though.
23:00 Maya says we don't know if they're (trans identified males) different re: crime. I'm of course going to give her the benefit of the doubt because she's extremely intelligent and courageous, but perhaps she isn't familar with a 2019 research (in the UK) that logged trans identified male prisoners as having committed 39% SA crimes as opposed to non-trans identified males having committed 19% SA crimes. That's almost two to one the number of SA crimes. So we actually do know that they're different.
My ex husband, the father of my son is now a full trans. We have co parented accepting well and raised a very well rounded excepting man. I have never ever expressed my views to my son as a mother. I find the most disrespectful thing as a woman is, how can a man say, he feels like he was born in the wrong body?? They have never lived a womans life, which they forget is more than just our fleshy envelope. We are more than just the sum of our parts, drives me nuts.
Accepting* ?
@lorimiller4301 meh typo... And?! I'm sure during your whole life you've never done it, jeez!!
@@user-bm7en1lh8d What's up with people correcting spelling and grammar? It's CZcams not English class? Lol.
@TMTM584 it's just frustrating that people try to come across as intelligent, and that's all they get from people's posts. I left the playground 20 years ago 😭. I never pick on people's mistakes I knew what they meant for goodness sake. Am I coming across a little defensive 🤣
@@user-bm7en1lh8d Lol. Your story is interesting. It must have been very difficult for you to stay so neutral. I agree a man can't know what it's like to be a woman and vice versa. Especially going through female puberty.
Thank you, Mam, for standing in the gap. This is absolutely the hill to die on. My wife and I were just having this discussion over dinner last night. We are facing this iceberg that threatens to tank our financial stability, in that she's confronting this very issue on a very preliminary basis at this point, but is obviously snow balling into a major Titanic type incident for us as a family.
Our solemn promise to our God and each other is we will not compromise. That includes signing any papers confirming the lies in the context of h.r. even to addressing others by their preferred pronouns. These are non negotiable issues for us. We will not bow down. We know the Lord will honor our desire to stand on principle. He promises to do just that.
@@L_Martin Thank you.
God has nothing to do with it. It is about biology and basic facts. Having said that if Gods point of view matters to you in this and that is what gets you and your wife on board to stand up to these trans women that are trying to take away the identity of roughly half the world's population then I am all for it. Basically we are addressing this major issue from different perspectives and I gladly accept and embrace those differences, unlike these radical trans women that have only one perspective and will raze down anyone that stands in their way. Which by the way is VERY masculine behaviour.
And yet you believe the lie about the earth being 6000 years old.
A genuine question, what is your point exactly? As it is, what you have written is open to interpretation.
@tela1653 There is zero ambiguity in what I wrote. Another issue that has absolutely no ambiguity is the fact there are only two genders created by God. That's not open to interpretation, and that is my point. My family will not sign documents stating otherwise. We will not "affirm" a dilutional individuals lie either. When confronted in the work place, my family respectfully declines to affirm a lie and as such have found that our freedom to believe as we wish has been targeted bc we won't call someone by the gender they claim they feel that particular day. It's beyond common sense not to mention what our Creator has stated is actually the case. Let me not confuse you. We will stand on the principle of there being two genders and those who seek to strong arm or manipulate me or my family to state otherwise are going to be sorely disappointed, but we will not disappoint God. We will continue to stand for truth no matter what the world says.
Maya’s testimony is truly terrifying. ”Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, And prudent in their own sight!“
Isaiah 5:20-21 NKJV
The prophet who wrote this over 2700 years, was sawn in two by those who wanted to redefine right and wrong.
I think you should have put Maya in the thumbnail. She is a living precedent and deserves her own recognition outside of JKR's support.
30% of people respond to a poll saying “yes TW’s should be allowed in women’s spaces and women’s sport” 😳in this case we really do have a ‘woman problem’ in the UK. We women are heading for rockier times 😢. I’m seriously worried about the future and my children .
Probably only asked wokies though.
Excellent interview. Thanks Andrew for giving sensible people the opportunity to speak in a calm and respectful way. Maya talks so much sense. I shall head over to her website to support her.
She needs as much support as possible as common sense has clearly left the building.
@Andrew Gold I'm going through this EXACTLY this. With a teacher who identifies as a they/them. Him having the audacity to complain to autistic students and other disabilities. That HE feels more out of place than him bc there is no bathroom for THEM. Where he is clearly a biological male who dresses like a normal teacher but wears earrings. ANDREW I AM THE MOST PROGRESSIVE WOMEN EVER. BUT THIS IS SCANDALOUS GASLIGHTING ON SOCIETY. I am a behavioral therapist at a public highschool at a highschool in L.A. County. I wish I could actually share my present experience and how I want to.advovate for REALITY to return back to our school system.
That would drive me absolutely insane. The nonsense going on in schools right now is absolutely disturbing. I know teachers who are moving to the Bible Belt to get away from this insanity!
@@Starfish2145 where they will be forced to teach religious doctrine in science classes.
Best way to do it: have each cubicle be its own separate bathroom instead of a small compartment within a larger room. Then they can all be gender neutral.
Great interview, Andrew. I recently found your channel and I'm very impressed by the openness and transparency. Keep it up!
What a woman, amazing interview. One of your best!!
0:27 That's not a belief. That's a scientific FACT.
Unfortunately, the law will only protect you for speaking the truth in this case if what you say is characterised as a 'belief'.
I painted a slightly inaccurate painting of a lifeboat for my husband, a member of the crew, he loved it but had to give it a fictitious name. I called it Maya.
Maya is indeed the rescue for so many women and men at work and in life!
@@HellCatt0770 me too
I checked the sex offender registry in my area which is a 5 mile radius from my home address. I seen there was 1 single female offender, and when I clicked to see their picture and details, it was in fact a transgender woman, so a man… a public outdoor pool is in between both of our houses, as well as an elementary school, 2 playgrounds and a dog park..
That was wise of you to do. Its unfortunate they are allowed to live within communities after they offend, please be safe!
#NotOurCrimes
I really enjoyed this, as I always do these Heretics episodes. I haven't heard all the details of Maya's case before, so that was fascinating.