Why the FBI Killed This Innocent Woman | Tales From the Bottle
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- 'Tales From the Bottle' returns to bring you the tragic tale of the Weaver family and the siege of Ruby Ridge.
"Ruby Ridge was the site of an eleven-day siege near Naples, Idaho, U.S., beginning on August 21, 1992, when Randy Weaver, members of his immediate family, and family friend Kevin Harris resisted agents of the United States Marshals Service (USMS) and the Hostage Rescue Team of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI HRT). Following a Marshals Service reconnoiter of the Weaver property pursuant to a bench warrant for Weaver after his failure to appear on firearms charges, an initial encounter between six US marshals and the Weavers resulted in a shootout and the deaths of Deputy US Marshal William Francis Degan, age 42, the Weavers' son Samuel (Sammy), age 14, and Weaver's family dog (Striker). In the subsequent siege of the Weaver residence, led by the FBI, Weaver's 43-year-old wife Vicki was killed by FBI sniper fire. All casualties occurred on the first two days of the operation. The siege and stand-off were ultimately resolved by civilian negotiators, with the surrender and arrest of Kevin Harris on August 30, and the surrender of Randy Weaver and the surviving Weaver children the next day.
Randy Weaver and Kevin Harris were subsequently arraigned on a variety of federal criminal charges, including first-degree murder over the death of Deputy US Marshal W.F. Degan. Harris was acquitted of all charges, and Weaver was subsequently acquitted of all charges except for the original bail condition violation for the arms charges and for having missed his original court date. Fined US$10,000 and sentenced to 18 months in prison, he was credited with time served plus an additional three months, and was then released.
During the federal criminal trial of Weaver and Harris, Weaver's attorney Gerry Spence made accusations of "criminal wrongdoing" against the agencies involved in the incident, in particular, the FBI, the USMS, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF), and the United States Attorney's Office (USAO) for Idaho. At the completion of the trial, the Department of Justice's Office of Professional Responsibility formed the Ruby Ridge Task Force (RRTF) to investigate Spence's charges. A redacted HTML version of the RRTF report was publicly released by Lexis Counsel Connect, an information service for attorneys, which raised questions about the conduct and policies of all of the participating agencies. A PDF version of the report was later posted by the Justice Department.
Both the Weaver family and Harris brought civil suits against the government over the events of the firefight and siege, the Weavers winning a combined out-of-court settlement in August 1995 of $3.1 million, and Harris being awarded, after persistent appeals, a $380,000 settlement in September 2000.
To answer public questions about Ruby Ridge, the Senate Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Government Information held a total of 14 days of hearings between September 6 and October 19, 1995, and subsequently issued a report calling for reforms in federal law enforcement to prevent a repeat of the losses of life at Ruby Ridge, and to restore public confidence in federal law enforcement. It was noted that the Ruby Ridge incident and the 1993 Waco siege involved many of the same agencies (e.g., the FBI HRT and the ATF) and some of the same personnel (e.g., the FBI HRT commander.)
The Boundary County, Idaho, prosecutor indicted FBI HRT sniper Lon Horiuchi for manslaughter in 1997 before the statute of limitations for this charge could expire; the Idaho v Horiuchi case was moved to federal court which has jurisdiction over federal agents, where it underwent a sovereign immunity dismissal, an en banc reversal on appeal of the dismissal, and ultimately, the dropping of charges after a change in the local prosecutor."
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Why the FBI murdered this women is not the correct question. The question should be why was the FBI not held accountable for this.
Yes, the more important question indeed!!!
The short answer is; they (the government) are a bunch of corrupt BASTARDS.
Because it would drastically affect opinion on the government even more, which would lead to a large if not total drop in power, which makes it harder/impossible for them to sacrifice children to Satan.
Fuckface The Almighty bingo
Cuz this is America.
I am in NO WAY defending actions of the government, but a service agent, just doing his job and following orders, trying to put food on the table for his family was murdered bcs this angry fucker wouldnt just surrender and let it be settled as it was AFTER three people died
“The government doesn’t make mistakes”
- The US Government
That's a lie because nothing is perfect
No they don't but they can mistake on purpose
People who @ me drink seman and love licking cum
@@thebean3883 yeah... nouns are spelled with a lowercase letter. This isn't German.
It’s even better when it says it was edited
You kill a man's dog when it isn't hurting anyone you deserve what you get
Whoever shot that dog can burn in Hell.
@@ianbrennan9635 The Devil has an special spot for that person that shot the dog
@@elvispresley2284 and based-ass little Weaver sent him straight there. RiP
@@EddyOfTheMaelstrom Sent him there in an express ticket in an one way only trip.
@@elvispresley2284 Ay bitch my Chinese relatives be eating dogs and huskies like its Dim Sum......
The fact that Waco siege happened just six months after this really says it all...
Same FBI guy shot people there as well
And both of them caused the Oklahoma City bombing 2 years after that
I think I figured it out. This keeps happening over and over. The incompetent agents must get assigned to these politically corrupt units so that the real agents can go after real bad guys. Eventually, the good agents leave but the cock ups never do, which is why there’s an endless supply of them
@@Josep_Hernandez_LujanYep, and its rumoured that he was the one that shot first too.
and we still believe when they tell us which one are the bad guys
The “sawn off shotguns” were youth model shotguns with a short stock, the atf agent lied and said that it would be a legal length because it was an adult sized gun, randy weaver was lied to and didn’t know he was committing a crime.
If it's shorter than 26" or barrel less than 18" it's illegal youth model or not.
The A.T.F. ASKED RANDY TO SHORTEN THE GUN.
@@9HighFlyer9 not with a pistol grip. The atf lied to him about it being a legal pistol. You can buy a short shotgun as a pistol but you cant turn an already existing long shotgun or rifle into a pistol. If he bought that gun from a store with the pistol grip and barrel length under 16 in it would be a legal pistol.
@@9HighFlyer9 laws aren't legitimate when they violate the constitution.
@@Missconduct044 shall not be infringed
This man literally did nothing wrong. He was trying to live a peaceful life, and instead lost his dog, wife, and his only son all because his neighbor was salty.
@@TheSarahbee23 He wasn't a white supremacist, never was. He sold illegal weaponry to white supremacists, but was never associated with them.
@@TheSarahbee23 oh nooooooo he was selling a hunk of metal
@@keygencontingent "hunk of metal" that's like calling a space ship a "hunk of metal" completely disregarding the technology behind it
@@ook_3D I mean cmon man, brother only sold a shotgun
@@TheSarahbee23
That might be true, but his friend, his dog, his wife, were innocent. They didn't deserve a public execution.
Trust me, if he was a white supremacist, he ain't no more.
For anyone that’s wondering “lon horiuchi” is the name of the sniper that shot and killed a mother holding her 10month old baby at ruby ridge. Coincidentally he was also a shooter at WACO where another officer said in an original statement before retracting it that he was firing first. This man deserved to rot in prison and at the very least lose his job/credentials.
The blade of evil given flesh and blood.
And his ass got put on witness protection and lived a happy life pretty sure
He should be fed to pigs.
@@devilinthewoods3809 is in witness protection and is living a happy life, he is still alive.
Lon horiuchi is the best
those agents have to be psychopaths, imagine seeing a dog coming up to you in a friendly manner and instead of you know, TALKING you just shoot it and then kill a teenager as well. truly horrific
They were most likely told that the dog was trained to attack/bite, since they were already told that Weaver was literally Rambo, except with criminal intent.
@@orppranator5230 you deserve what federal agents would do to you and your family
@@orppranator5230 what about the kid? was he trained to bite too?
@@ckopen7192He fired at him, but in my opinion for good reason, he killed his dog who did nothing wrong and was even being friendly to the agents, some balls that boy had shooting at the US military
As much as I hate to defend this total balls up by the feds (or to defend the feds at all) you can't always trust a dog running up to you even if it looks friendly. 9 times out of 10 yeah that dog is running over to play with you because that's what it knows but I've personally saw "friendly" dogs suddenly switch up and try to rip your arm off. This whole situation was caused by both bad information and certain government agents wanting to put the squeeze on him.They only really cared about Randy after he told them "no" which always triggers would be tin-pot dictators.
American citizen: does nothing.
FBI: this man is too dangerous to live.
praise the emperor
That B!otch Janet Reno is hugely to blame!
What good did the gun's do appart from getting his family killed tho?
@@henryofskalitz5212 it wasn’t his guns that got his family killed and started this shit.
it was a dispute over a plot of land that kicked off this shit show.
@ShaunDoesMusic no it didn’t.
The Weaver Family:
"It's not paranoia if they are actually out to get you"
Yeah my dad was paranoid, but in the sense of just being paranoid.... 🤐
It is not really paranoia if you think the cops are out to get you you run at them with a gun and they shoot you.
did you hear aboot that weaver boy that dropped out of the third grade? made millions by just chopping wood in his parents back yard. real go getter and wood hauler
Bloody right the usa is like that every where they aremore like nazis than the nazis
He was a white supremacist who went to numerous events dedicated to it, was a gun collector, and held anti-government views. Why would they not be out to get him? They knew about him. He exposed himself to the spooks, that's all on him.
Thankful you included the bit about Randy having been sent the incorrect court date. No documentaries that I've seen on the subject include this. I only knew of this from the Facebook of one the daughters.
vicky was laying shot dead on the floor in the middle of the house for an entire WEEK while they were hiding out, yet the agents were yelling things like “what did vicky cook up for breakfast this morning for you randy?”
"He knew a guy, who knew a guy"
I mean, yeah. I know my grandfather, and he knows plenty of guys who fought Nazis in WW2. So by their logic, I fought Nazis in WW2.
No, by their logic, you're a Nazi.
you fight Nazis? You must be Antifa! :-D
@@sikliztailbunch Ah, yes, the most fascist of anti-fascist.
@@cool_bug_facts antifa is more facist than some actual facists
@@cool_bug_facts if you've payed any attention you'd know that antifa enforces their opinions and jumps people who are right wing, they don't allow differing views
He left out the 2 days randy was in the cabin with his wife’s body, and they had to call in his former CO to convince him they wouldn’t just execute him.
What a bloody mess of incompetence. That poor family.
Plus, during that time, the fed kept calling “come out Vicky, we won’t hurt you!” while she was dead in the floor with a bullet in her head.
@@DeltaDanner jesus fucking Christ O.o
@@rowenkylee5627 like qxir said later on, this was no accident or incompetence. It was a show of force and paranoia from the gov.
@@rowenkylee5627 I'm not so sure this can be explained via incompetence anymore.
The more I learn about my government, the more I see how horrible people can be.
people take advantage of people, so we need people to stop people from taking advantage of people cant see anything wrong with that plan
Petition to make Lon Horuichi (the sniper that killed the man's wife)'s life as annoying as possible. Don't hurt the guy or anything violent, just make everything he does as annoying as legally possible. If he comes to your store, tell him that anything he wants is out of stock, or give him the most rotten stuff you got. If he comes to you to get something signed, make sure it takes as long as possible and is an annoying process. If he orders pizza, make sure it's cold as hell and takes as long as possible to deliver.
get a life
Dude wrote some fantasy watt pad over this guy 😭
@@travishylton6976 like the one he took?
The boss in a nutshell
“Destroy the child”
“Corrupt them all”
😂
This is their plan people!
These are DEMONS.
@@melvinmerkelhopper5752 basically
Now i understand peoples republic of korea better...
“Boss, you killed a child…
absolutely amazing job!”
14 year old boy gets killed by marshall: * nothing happens*
Marshall is shot and killed in defense: * complete outrage*
14 yo boy shot and killed no one bats an eye
Marshall shot and killed everyone looses their minds
Whenever any cop kills someone innocent or not it causes assloads of uproar nowadays especially if they were a minority since every event is assumed to be charged by race nowadays.
Laponairre maybe because the kid opened fire on them
@@kryonight2869 I honestly have never heard of an innocent white kid killed by a cop except now
Jt i hate people like you think the law is always right your fucking disgusting without any thought of how young a 14 year old is
HARD PAUSE! Randy Weaver DID NOT sell the ATF agent two illegal shotguns. After selling LEGAL shotguns to the ATF he was asked by the agent to saw off the barrels too a point that WOULD make them ILLEGAL. Then used that to try and blackmail him into helping them. There. Continue. Love your videos.
hard pause. Illegal and Untaxed are two totally different things IMO. costs 200 bucks to ask the ATF for permission to do the same thing legally. so... basically they made him commit tax fraud.
But yknow, the ATF has always been a dumpster fire of a government agency, but for some reason they still get to pull similar shit like this today and people who call for the agency to be abolished are the crazy ones.
I don't know the facts but this is how I imagine it going.
Randy is selling 2 shotguns to pay for an important repair for their cabin.
This annoying guy he sees all over town comes up to him at dinner with his family asking all these annoying questions about it.
Randy tried to answer them all then starts to get annoyed and just says yeah yeah ok man let me.grt back to dinner with my family, come to my cabin Sunday after church and I'll get them for you.
Sunday rolls around Randy gets the guns and this guy is inspecting them all over measuring them asking a million questions telling him all about how he wants them for his kids and doesn't want anything with the barrel to long, then finally decided to buy them.
He gives Randy the cash but then says oh wait these are still to long can you just shorten the barrel for little Timmy and Sally? If not I'll take my money back....
Randy says ok sure but we can't go to short that's pretty close to the legal limit, let me get my tape measure.
The ATF queef says no need I got a tape measure right here, right about .... Here is 3 inches see perfectly safe and legal.
Randy looks over and says yeah ok looks about right and cuts them.
Immediately in the ADF queef pulls out his sidearm and guys run out and tackle Randy and arrest him for cutting a shotgun 1/8in to short.
They then proceed to interrogate him for hours and trying force him to join the local area brotherhood through his friend.
RIP Randy. You inspired a ton of lads to want to take on alphabet stacks, and rightly so. Lon Hiruichi, the sniper who took out his wife and child, was also at Waco.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lon_Horiuchi
Based Lon. True American hero, eliminating religious nutjobs one headshot at a time.
@@jonransdell Glowing
Hold up, randy is dead?
@@ghostcreeper243 It wasn't mentioned how but I'm guessing cancer. Passed on I'm afraid.
“You’re crazing, why don’t you trust the government?”
History.
@@alfshigechi5518 makes sense.
crazy
What history?
@@alfshigechi5518 I dont understand that because history also tells that billions have died from plagues and that the world was almost always seen as a globe or globe like.
@@oilyfrog5022 pretty sure he ment the ammount of people that die from plagues when vaccine was introduce drop down
And fuck head anti vax ruin all that effort by making long gone disease comeback and spreading it
Why is it that the title says innocent women and not innocent family
They were not innocent
@@yellingdiamond6398 they are innocent
@@yellingdiamond6398 explain.
@@josephpeters49 the boy had a rifle aimed at officers, the dad could have easily turned himself in and this whole situation would have been avoided.
@Federal Bureau Of Investigation No fuck them, doggo didn't need to be clapped.
Harris is an absolute legend for avenging the son who was killed, surviving being shot badly, and not being charged.
RIP Randy Weaver passed away recently at the age of 74 on May 11
Inside the sniper's mind:
Ok theres a guy with a gun and... IS THAT A BABY???
OPEN FIRE!
Why kill someone who is dangerous when you can commit a war crime
Mustached_villain lmaoooo
What kind of monster and coward does it take to snipe a woman holding a baby!? I hope he burns in Hell! 😠
The same sniper was active during the Waco Siege, and was noted for potshotting people who attempted to leave the inferno. I wish I was fucking joking.
_not_ one of the boys
"To kill the pope, the president, and the governor" well holy shit, why not include the queen of England as well while he's at it... that would be a very ambitious kill list already, wtf, how did they even take him seriously, he overdid it 😂
The Queen of England has been dead for over 300 years, unless your talking about the Queen of the UK,
@ShaunDoesMusic actually your wrong she is queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Queen of the commonwealth, don't get salty beacouse I corrected someone mind you own business salty boy you seem to me like someone who always barges into other peoples conversations because you think your right well guess what your wrong, you tried being clever and you failed.
@@yeetjones927 I think you mean she is Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. Come on man use her full title.
@@FloozyMcDoozy694 my bad bro
@@yeetjones927 you kinda suck
"You shot my dog you son of a bitch!" Badass last words
I was just a kid when this happened, but even I knew this was so wrong! What they did to this family is inexcusable and $100,000 isn't shit! Those people lost everything, the most important things, and they deserve better. Shame on the government again. Thank you for covering their story is a respectful way. ❤
The neighbor was the biggest troll/swatter in history
And wondering he never got any jail time for lying to the FBI as well to every government official that was involved?
Night-X
I wonder why his NAME wasn't even come up. Like God just hate him so much he was erased from existence.
betatalk357 If he did sued the dick what would stop the dumbass from calling the FBI and have this situation happen again.
holy shit that's smart
When you troll someone so hard you get the FBI to lay siege to their house and kill their wife, dog, and son
Holly shit, all this for literally doing nothing.
Jar of fermented semen ooo you’re so edgy
Jim Bob because you sound like the denier...
And we all think the police are here to help
'MURICA' sums it up pretty well...
Ikr
That Marshall that killed the dog and got shot: he got what he fucking deserved.
This is what happens when a misunderstanding and nonprofessional group of federal agents are perfectly paired together. This could’ve gone down as a diffused situation. No wonder people hate the cops.
There were 3-4 critical points along the trajectory where cooler heads tried but did not prevail.
When he missed the court date at least one authority tried to stop the others from calling in the Marshalls.
The shotguns Weaver sold were originally of legal length. The informant ask Weaver to cut them down, which he did... 1/8 of an inch too short. There had been plenty of speculation the government (not Weave) trimmed off that extra 1/8 to make them illegal, so they could blackmail him into being a snitch.
how fucking deplorable
You forgot the repeated harassment from the mole after Weaver said he wouldn't do it.
Weaver has said that Fadely was the "real criminal"-- credit card fraud in Florida.
I mean it would make perfect sense thinking about it, the fbi would want a inside man to take out the cult he loosely associated with think of the black panthers and the rat they place inside that. I feel like the issue we have is the fbi needs reform less they need accountability because the whole point of them is to be above the law for the better ment of the country like secret police yet they have done really fucked shit to try and act like they’re in the right, they need to have way stricter and more elaborate rules of engagement when dealing with what they’re dealing with. There’s too many examples of them doing shitty things and fuck ups that they decide to just say let’s go all the way in this case
@@Asuhhdude you realize the Black Panthers was an all black race supremacy militia that would barely even do business white people much less have a white person making their weapons for them, right?
Not to mention the organization stopped existing in the '80s.
Title is inaccurate. It should say "Why The FBI, ATF and US Marshalls Killed This Innocent Woman, Her Son and His Dog, Persecuted Her Husband, Destroyed Their Other Kids Lives and Wounded Their Friend."
Admittedly that might be a bit long.
i'm a alien
How about: "How The Government Killed Half Of An Innocent Family Living Off-Grid Having Foreseen The Event"
I'm the 100 like person
*DAB*
“How the Government ruined a family for no reason”
It's free realastate
@@excrementgaming4405 dude, to soon.
Everyone’s talking bout the 14 year old, and understandably so, but still, we not talking about the family friend who stuck with the family and fought with them against the FBI?!
Makes me wonder how the government sniper felt when he later found out that he killed innocent people because he was fed lies and intentionally faulty intel. If that person has a soul, they have to live with that
Why would anyone believe that guy didn't know it was all a lie? They know they just don't care.
Except that same sniper was at Waco, and his partner claims he was shooting unarmed people as they were trying to escape the fire
@@ntfoperative9432 wow! I knew the same one was at Waco but either hadn't heard that accusation or had forgotten it. Such evil people!! I definitely remember what an evil bitch Janet Reno was and with the complete blessing of the equally evil Bill Clinton.
I doubt he felt that bad because Waco was 6 months later.
why would he give a shit? he probably treated it like surgeons who are unable to save someone.
Randy Weaver has become a folk hero here in Idaho. The State of Idaho filed murder charges against FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi, but the feds put a stop to it.
of course the feds put stop to it. remember that bullshit when they set fire on the cultists place and everyone died? yeah they got fucking nothing for that either, it just lead into the worst domestic terrorist attack in US history as a revenge strike.
That same FBI sniper was later deployed during the Waco stand-off.
Gunslinger 11B
Wasn't the Sniper but the fucking idiots that were in charge of the agency
Brandon Parnell
My morality would win over an order, tbh. It just isn't right.
Edward Chuck
But you weren't the one pulling the trigger now were you
This is horrible, its like a cop tells you to speed up and than gives you a ticked for it.
there is a video out there where a cop tells a biker to do a wheelie then pulls them over for it.
Mysterious doest the biker speed away though?
Mysterious iv seen thay one lol 😂😂😂
Kermit on weed except if everyone died
how is it at all like a cop telling you to speed up and then ticketing you for it?
How could you shoot a 14 year old boy as he was running away?
How could you snipe a Woman holding a Baby?
These are not just questions of competence............ this is a question of morality.
they are from the government and they are here to help
in all fairness... the 14 year old boy did shoot first... better question is how the fuck it makes sense to shoot a fucking dog while trying to be sneaky and gather information in the first place.
@@Bigol_Jimbono, the feds shot first, when they killed the dog right in front of him.
Fun fact: this affected their neighbor the Westover family tremendously, the father went delusional and unbelievably made life for him and his family a living hell by not trusting modern medicine and education, and overall the government.
There's an interesting memoir about the youngest girl of the family (Tara Westover) how she fought through her dad’s arrogant ways managed a rough education and eventually become a professor at Harvard. It's an interesting story I really recommend it.
I think the people asking why did Kevin and Sammy shoot at the Marshals fail to take into account the situation form their point of view. They were suddenly confronted by a group of armed men who had -
1: Not announced them selves,
2: were not wearing any clearly identifying marking or clothing, (Unmarked generic BDUs you could have bought from any surplus store in 1992 don't really cut it)
3: had clearly been trying to approach with out being seen.
4: suddenly fire their weapons, again with out any attempt to behave like law enforcement, as opposed to a group of armed trespassers.
What a mess that could have been avoided if the "upholders of the law" had decided to act like such instead of larping in unmarked BDUs while managing to be startled by a friendly dog.
apparently they claim to have announced themselves
JohnnyGotHisGun it was a yellow Labrador retriever. I guess it could have been on the attack but they are usually very friendly and silly animals. It’s a breed common in households with children because the have such a reputation for being harmless and affectionate. If you go somewhere a Labrador is, it will run at you, but in my experience they just want to lick your face. retrievers are bred to have a “soft” mouth, i.e. to be able to bring the bird you just shot back to you without damaging it.
@@rooseveltbrentwood9654 Yeah, and they give intruders notice of intention to lick faces. Anybody scared of a retriever is a wuss.
It's almost as if they wanted an excuse to kill everyone in sight or something.
I've been bitten by smaller dogs harsher than by big dogs, the little rats bite to kill
Just want to point out that guilt by association is illegal
that doesn't change the fact that the deaths of vicki, her son and his dog were completely unjustified and that they were majorly fucked over by the government
@@Busshhu He got screwed over by some very incompetent agents of the government, not "the government"
ShowtimeAtWaco The government gave them authority they’re acting on orders so the government in fact fucked him they did nothing for him, they equally fucked him just like those asshat agents did.
@@ShowtimeAtWaco
Wielding the power and authority of the government in its name makes the government culpable.
"That's right 14 year old boy and 10 month old girl, you shouldn't've stayed with your family which is literally all you know"
The same FBI sniper who shot and killed Vicki Weaver as she held her infant child in her arms also participated in the Waco, TX massacre of the Branch Davidians. His name is Lon Horiuchi. A real patriot he is, and man of high moral character.
Im glad its men like these who protect the citizens of America
They weren't wrong about the world being evil.. it proved it to them.
"It's not murder if you're wearing a badge."
These Federal agencies are even worse today.
Peter Dillenbeck
Thank the fuckings in charge a long time ago
Der Boi No they haven't stopped shit at all actually they fucking HELP them with their opium trade and then BRING it over to the US it's why there is the "opioid" crisis thank the CIA and middle eastern terror groups who use the drug trade to fund themselves
The FBI is really supposed to investigate the _other_ agencies when they do shit like this, why the hell the FBI is making fuckups like this is probably the only question worth asking, I mean the other two are known pretty well for somehow managing to fuckup pretty badly.
Peter Dillenbeck actually they’re much better today and a long time ago as well. The fed bureaus haven’t really killed many innocents outside of the 80’s and 90’s.
I'm sorry but that's a complete lie. This is most likely the most extreme miscarriage of justice to ever occur on American soil in recent history and I doubt something worse has or ever will happen since then.
Isn't it weird how reality kind of warped to match this guy's expectations? His crime was thinking the government was corrupt and conspiratorial. He was punished through a corrupt and conspiratorial government.
I would not consider the government of that time to be necessarily corrupt, but they obviously had a bad time checking facts and had crappy engagement practices against this sort of group, but you have to understand that this was before the internet was available. So everything had to be done through paperwork and the time it took for information and corrections to be processed made the whole process unorganized. The reason many governmental agencies are so crappy nowadays is because they all use outdated technology and many are forced to still use paper to handle the increasing population of people in the country. Also we see more of their failures now due to the information being more accessible, but they have been getting better. If only more people in charge of our government knew how to turn on a computer, and did not think that Pokemon is a satanic cult. It is pathetic.
-Basically a Federal agent "Entrapped" Weaver in order to get him to work for them.
-This same agent then LIED to his supperiors in order to make Weaver look like a "big fish".
( Green Beret, massive stash of weapons, close ties to Aryan Nation, etc.)
-Weaver agreed to work with the agent until he found out WHO he was supposed to join and inform on.
( People who kill the families of "Informants")
-Weaver told the Agent to "Go ____ Himself".
-Charges were brought against Weaver , the agent knew it was an open and shut case of entrapment , so "somehow" Weaver was given the wrong court date.
-Agent then "let it slip" to several people , over several incidents, that Weaver had been working with him.Thus painting a great big target on Weaver and his family.
-This same agent then began "leaking" information about the case to a local Conservative Radio Talkshow host as a way of putting more pressure on Weaver.
-The Marshals were told to keep the Weavers under surveilance but not to directly approach them, they actually set up cameras.
-The Marshals were unaware of the fact that they were there to record the Weavers being murdered by Aryan Nation, all they knew was they were getting tired of the "hands off" approach they were ordered to follow.
-So , against orders, they decided to just take Weaver into custody and put an end to this nonsense.
-The words "Bungled" , "Incompetent" and "Dumbasses" don't even come close to describing the effort to take Weaver into custody.
-What do you do when you just gunned down an innocent boy ( and his dog ) and you have a dead Marshal?
Well, you lie your ass off , claim you were pinned down by gunfire for TWELVE HOURS while you were actually destroying every piece of evidence you could get your hands on ,like erasing the surveilance cameras you set up, and don't bother to mention the kid you shot in the back.
-Well now the FBI has a whole load of BS about Weaver, they think he's some kind of special forces type with a massive arsenal who is central to Aryan Nation who just ambushed and killed a Federal Marshal.
-So they basically gave a "shoot on sight order" to their snipers and asked Weaver if he could "look out the window".
The sad part is , there's more.
So when's the "there's more" coming out?
They are like school bullies...but much worse
@@qifanweng3137 what about misinformation on Trump? Who is Comey? I'm curious
The fact every single charge on the randy and Harris was dropped just makes this whole situation worse
I love the way you tell these stories.
At least did the neighbor go to Jail? Or Federal Prison?
He did cause the death of a innocent family.
The one who pokes seems to stay safe
Not a single person FBI, USMS was convicted for anything
@@captaindorsett Two words - "Qualified Immunity"
@@rustym.shackelford5546 unqualified immunity
@@-CmonMeow Well technically that's the commonly accepted standard for all forms of LEOs and Government Officials - whatever they do to you directly doesn't matter.
It was actually far worse than this. After the sniper killed his wife a couple days went by and they continue to try and contact him by loudspeaker trying to convince him to come out. But they changed tactics and kept trying to contact and call for his wife not knowing that they had f***** up and killed her. This drove him into a darker mental state because he and his surviving family felt they were deliberately being toyed with since the mother was the one the police were trying to communicate with and she had been the very nice and reasonable one I suppose in that situation. An old friend was sent up to talk to them that I believe had old military connections from Vietnam or something and I can't quite recall, but I believe when he spoke to Randy on behalf of the police he told his friend that they killed his wife. He then walked down the hill and met with the police who had armored personnel carriers and things of that nature actually in position, and he literally told the police and the FBI how badly they have f***** up. He was not nice about it. The guy had been up in his cabin and feels as if he's been taunted because they shot and killed his wife and have been trying to reach out to her for a couple days. Eventually this mental stress can bind with the impending assault drove him to surrender.
Thank for the insight, that's very tragic
Odious Ktenology
...I think you missed the part where someone gave the government false information, or a government official gave him the wrong information, or a multitude of other things that would give Weaver a reason to not trust the government and how they were handling everything so horribly. I’m wondering if you even watched the video tbh.
Unless you mean the scumbag that resented Weaver for that case over land and initially started the whole landslide of issues. In which case yes, that guy is a scumbag.
Thing is, the scumbag who started the whole thing is indeed a scumbag. However...government officials are supposed to be held to higher standards, and the fact that they escalated it from a simple scumbag saying false shit to killing innocent people...means most of the fault falls squarely on the FBI's shoulders.
It wasn't a friend, to my knowledge, but was fellow Vietnam veteran and all around awesome person Bo Gritz. Look him up.
But yeah, Odious is the reason some Germans assumed the Jews in the camps must have done something wrong to end up there.
So the government is all in the clear for killing a mother who was no threat whatsoever.
Wow, this is an old one and it's very apparent how far your channel has come.
Just found this channel, and a Sunday binge watch is afoot!
"They've done nothing... and we can't know what atrocity they will do next!"
-FBI, regarding the average american citizen
"The Average American Citizen is too Scary to be free..." - the typical "Back The Blue" member.
Your back catalogue is epic. Love your videos.
Where is Lon Horiuchi the highly qualified trained FBI HRT sniper that murdered unarmed Vicki Weaver while she was holding her baby girl in her arms? He was at Waco also and said to have been the first to open fire without being fired upon.
None of the shooters from the BATF or the FBI were ever ever prosecuted because of a state vs. federal technicality at
Ruby Ridge, and ordered to pay the Weaver family $3.5 million in damages.
I mean... fair enough, the sniper was told to do his job and he did it... him having immunity from prosecution for doing his job "makes sense"... the person who told him to do his job and let him kill people though? that's the person who needs a good ol' fashioned crucifixion.
A few years after the Feds' murders and acts of animal cruelty at Ruby Ridge, Idaho - while fighting forest fires in the Northwest US, I met Randy Weaver at a rural pub/trading post. This everyone there who knew him much better than myself testified; he's one of the most decent, laid back and honest men there is.
That is very good to hear!
John Ratko wait you knew him?
Decent, laidback and honest aren’t attributes usually associated with ethnocentric fascists. Interesting.
@@joalvarado8506 And what makes you say he was an ethnocentric fascist you fucking dunce
The boy had some balls made of steel
Brain as dense as steel too if he thought firing on a squad of decked out officers with a hunting weapon was a good idea
Who fired on who first? They shot his dog, and he is just supposed to not defend himself and somehow think they are not a threat to his and his sons safety? You aren't thinking rationally when your life is on the line.
If he was black they would have named a day of the year after him.
Bas Didit Good one bro😀 funny joke dude
And it killed him
I love this unbridled rage in this video. And rightfully so.
RIP to Randy Weaver.
Fun fact: the FBI agent tried to get Randy to cut down 2 different shotguns as part of an entrapment scheme. 1st one he refused, 2nd one was 1/4" below legal limit for shotgun length.
actually it was 1/8" - the legal federal limit I believe is 18 inches
why does the government get to tell you how long your shotgun can be? lmfao
@@CanyonF because its liberals who made them
@@CanyonF I don't particularly like guns and they're banned in my country, but if you can already own a shotgun, and really just about any gun you want, why the fuck is there a legal limit lmfao
@@CanyonF why aren't we the ones telling them how long their shotguns can be?
How tf do you shoot a dog and then a 14 year old WTF!!
You are clearly too young to understand why.
This is why we need less government not more.
+trintle Are you trying to justify a kid and dog getting shot and no one getting in trouble for it? I wish that kid had shot them for he would have been a true patriot opposing tyranny in all forms.
Trintle maybe?........
But still. A kid that hasn’t even lived his full life and a dog.........
@@nicholasneyhart396 Absolutely not you dense dumbass. Those agents were having their positions revealed by said dog, and had to put it down. Unfortunately, the kid saw, raised his gun, and fired, killing one of the agents. The agents fired back. It's like the main wars that went down in the Middle East. Military members had to shoot some of the kids involved in self defense and to ensure no one else would further be killed in a fire fight. And you're right, the agents were being controlled by a corrupt higher up, but I doubt the higher up actually told said agents about their task in detail. Even if they knew, I would think they would still practically have no choice. The people that shot the kid and dog also have feelings, man. They probably have to live through thag moment too and live with that regret. Not everyone involved in the government is cold hearted and emotionless to everything.
Damn I hate our government. I don't even like guns, but what happened to this family was completely inexcusable. This was an absolutely disgusting failure of government, in just about every friggin way possible.
awesomeness and tyvm for sharing
This story enraged me.
Look up the involvement of the FBI with the 1993 wtc bombing.
Indeed, it pissed a lot of people off and made them open their eyes.
It should
Randy Weaver got off easy.
It should - get "Busted By The Feds" and read all the stories in Part IV.... You'd get hella mad...
I don't blame the guy, his neighbor fucked him over, they got his court date wrong, ATF blamed him for wrong doing, they killed his dog and son, injured him and his friend resulting in vicky being killed, and never dropped the charges of missing a court date, who was the victim
Thats why we should hate the state
@@0subswithnovideos775 yep
When a cop comes to your door don't forget the choice is yours.
@@thomdilling5855 unless they have a warrant
Then you don't have to make the choice. Kill 'em.
14 year old son. Shoots at the cops cuz they killed his dog. He's not a kid, he's a fking MAN. John wick vibes.
What a fucking legend. R.I.P .
They didn’t announce them selves and we’re wearing cloths that wouldn’t show who they were imagine if you were the 14 year old boy a group of random people snuck on your property and started shooting at you
Imagine you're 14, walking through your backyard and two random dudes in camo (hunting clothes) murder your dog without warning then start pointing guns at you.
Love your content man. Best channel on this site
U.S government: He's trying to kill the president get him!
Randy Weaver: No, I just want to be left alone with my family.
The U.S government: He's trying to be left alone with his family, get him!
😂
@Robert Lemp Truth
@Robert Lemp Basically sums it up. Im positive the gov wasnt just making dumb mistakes.
I could only think of one movie when i read this. HAROLD AND KUMAR WHITE CASTLE 😂😂😂
Basically Swatting before the internet was a thing.
touofthehighplains so accurate lmaooo
The internet I think was technically a thing, but not what we know it as today
Jaylen Warren it’s a joke dude
i know
Yeah, right, so why the snarky comment. You knew it was a joke my ass. LMAO
Kind of fucked up how running from their fears brought their fears upon them.
Ah man that “shitting on the carpet” bit was hilarious. You funny bastard
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What have you done?
CB2C the same thing they always do, Pinky. TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!
FBI The military is coming for your ass
Fak u
Go home FBI, you're drunk.
I was a kid when this happened so I naturally didn’t know about it. I looked it up on CZcams and out of the 4 videos I found your was the only fair and accurate OBJECTIVE explanation. Disgusting what happened. Thanks for doing the research and giving us relevant facts. And thanks for the humor you were able to tastefully interject in such a horrible story. I just clicked to subscribe :)
A lot of agents should have went to prison.
There would be a definite misunderstanding next time I ran into the neighbor who started all that nonsense.
I love how much you cuss on this video, its a nice change of pace where everyone on youtube is trying to keep it PC. Thanks my dude.
Of all the documentaries, your account of chain of events make the most sense. Family law attorney did the same shit to me...didn’t give me the court room number (had to stand in long ass line to ask the clerk) ended up being late...case was heard and my life and daughters life was turned upside down. Great video...thanks for the blunt truth. I so believe they gave Weavers an extended court date on purpose to confuse him or just out right hope he’d fuck up.
Well done 👍
Should have been there earlier if it was so important, can't rely on other people to be competent
Dog name: Archduke Franz Ferdinand
As much as it should have, this did not start a world war.
Lol
lmao
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It's actually digusting that the man who shot and killed Vicky, was aquitted of chargers of Manslaughter. The sniper deserved the Death penalty or Life In Prison.
Yet another reason to never trust the government to not fuck something up
Remember...just because you are paranoid doesn't mean someone's not following you....
I am legit scared of how stupid people can be
People are stupid. They tell me to go after you. Rather than asking WHY ! I just do it. F*#^ F*#^s. Stupid people
Imagine having first your dog, then your son, and then your wife (who is holding your months old baby), all for missing a court date because of a misprinted letter.
If I were any of the cops involved with this chain of events, I’d probably rather quit my job and become a homeless bum than have to ever go to work ever again out of shame and guilt
No no..this all started because of that neighbour who said Randy is going to kill the president. Hope he rots in hell for that.
In 1997 Michael Kahoe, the chief of the FBI violent crime section, pled guilty to obstruction of justice for destroying a report critical of the agency's role at Ruby Ridge. He was sentenced to 18 months and a $4,000 fine.
Honestly a badger in a suit would have handled that better then they did.
Yeah, it would have done nothing. Like they should have.
Holy shit. This is so fucked up. You made it really easy to see it through his eyes instead of just telling what happened. U actually gave him character and relatability and i love that. Great videos man keep it up.
He is a good narrator. Most videos are one sided.
Forever rest in peace Randy Weaver. 🕊 🙏🏻
Thanks again
Lesson of the day : never trust you neighbors or the FBI
And the ATF
“Ayo bruh”
“Yea”
“I’m throw a rock at the window and provoke the dog literally igniting the dogs only reaction which is to defend this house from intruders and them shoot him when he comes to inspect who he is.”
“Ayo bruh, why you smart
“Oh yeas and when the owner gets mad at me killing his best friend (dog) I’m shoot him for threatening me for shooting his dog”
“Ayo bruh, this guy is big brain give him a promotion”
*shoots teenage boy twice to kill him*
@@zephyrna6249 "bruh you're a genius"
From a legal point the boy did nothing wrong the agents didn't reveal that they a agents so its defense of property and his own life
But not gonna lie that teen died as legend hope he is with his dog now
I think it was more along the lines of "- provoke the dog literally igniting the dogs only reaction which was to *greet them playfully*"
And as we all know, when a dog greets you playfully, you fucking put him down in front of one of his best friends (14 y old son)
the neighbor was the first to successfully murder by swatting
This hits different in 2022
*That's how FBI works.*
True dat
@@f.b.i.1957 lmao
The government takes our rights away with the lies that it's to make things safer only for us to be in even more danger from the people who are suppose to protect us!..
@@f.b.i.1957 The FBI got so bad it appears they had to made a second one
Edit: Is your job as FBI 2 to monitor the FBI?
@@superbeavers7645 yea im the FBI's FBI agent
If there's one thing I'm learning from this channel it's that the US law enforcement agencies are incompetent beyond what even I thought was possible. The stereotype about them being shoot first and ask questions later is completely accurate.
This was 5 administrations ago. Clintons. Things have changed for the better.
@@Adam-qv2bd I'm gonna be honest and unbiased. I have *no* idea how the president could've had any say of this.
@@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee It's more about the time scale than the administration. Enough of these incidents have happened for the incompetencies to have been patched. Obviously shit still goes wrong, but not on the kind of scale of the scenario in the video.
@@theclockworkcadaver7025 the only thing they fixed is not telling anyone about it
There are literally billions of cases that would beg to differ.
I was halfway through this like "this sounds familiar..."
It is what that Ready or Not mission is based off of.
I recall the lyrics of an old song, “does any one know where the love of god goes when the bad weather becomes a storm?”
This should have been considered a war crime against the American public
But it wasnt war tho
@Shal ucard armed forces? you mean SWAT teams?
it is state terrorism against the states own inhabitants
Spencer Picard it was definitely war. Multiple armed Government forces, helicopters, night vision, they even had to write up some rules of engagement!
No that doesn't count as a war. The news has helicopters, night vision is an equipment, and writing up rules of engagement also happens under hostage situations. And the government forces is just who was sent in. You just must not understand what wars are
*attempts to get dogs reaction, dogs react, shoots dog* >_>
I know! it's like no one ever taught them to think more than one or two steps into the future of a "Cause & Effect" action. That's an indicative sign of an unthinking moron.... and someone armed him and gave him a badge ::facepalm::
God anyone shoots my dog I Will burn everything to the ground and I would step over my enemy's corpse and say I didn't want to u made me then I would shoot them in the head
(Insert curb your enthusiasm theme song)
@@RustyTMercury Agreed, I would go Liam Neeson on the asshole who dares to shoot in the vicinity of my dog.
Rossomedude Unknown or John wick
That dog animation at the end killed me
What pissed me off just as much was just how much they entrapped him, with him essentially selling a legal gun, to which they asked for him to do an illegal modification, to which he said it was easy and they could do it, to which they became enraged and made promises and even some threats before eventually caving just so they would leave him alone. The reality behind ruby ridge is that the atf showed that the kgb has nothing on how absolutely low down and how much they essentially stood for the opposite of everything an American holds dear.
The ATF just tried to create a snitch, and when Randy refused, they murdered his entire family in retaliation.
I wonder if anything was ever done to the snipers that fired on them. The Nazis that followed corrupt orders were brought to justice. Why shouldn't this be done for the snipers?
I'm pretty sure the special rules created for that siege allowed them to shoot any member of that household on sight.
If I remember correctly the sniper that shot Weaver’s friend and killed his wife, was also active at the Waco Siege. And the man who did the Oklahoma Bombings was at a point going to target that sniper and his family.
The sniper was promoted, apparently.
Deep State AG Barr got immunity for the FBI murderers.
It was Lon Horiuchi, FBI murderer, who is currently enjoying his retirement.
However, Lon has a face-to-face meeting with God coming up so he will not escape judgment.
The sexual deviant attorney general Janet Reno, who was working with the Clinton regime to stamp out freedom in America, is burning in eternal hell as we comment.
Louie Freeh, the then FBI director who was "just following orders" will also face the righteous Judge who already knows all the facts.