Drugs & Guns: Rainbow Farm's Last Stand | Tales From the Bottle
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2022
- It's the siege you've probably never heard of; find out why Rainbow Farm found itself under attack by the law, and why it wouldn't happen today.
"Rainbow Farm was a pro-marijuana campground in Newberg Township, Cass County, Michigan, United States, that was involved in a fatal police standoff on September 3, 2001. The campground was run by Tom Crosslin and his life partner Rolland "Rollie" Rohm, and was home to two annual festivals, "HempAid" and "Roach Roast", which ran from 1996 through 2001. The operation ended with the burning down of all the structures on the property and the deaths of both Crosslin and Rohm."
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Correction: Members of Janis Joplin's band, Big Brother and the Holding Company, visited Rainbow Farm - not Janis Joplin herself (she died in 1970)!
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You’re a legend
Don't worry tis grand 🙂
I forgive you.
You should do a episode on auroville and the politics of it (crazy shit us happening right now)
I just thought you were high
"They donated enough money for a year of school lunches."
Oh man, no wonder the government hated them.
The goverment doesn´t give a fuck.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Nobody hated anyone except these two that hated authority and finally screwed up.
Helping poor children! Absolutely barbaric! /s
Yup, that's why they killed Escobar too, he built entire countries back from nothing. This said that he was a threat.
Certified Black Panther Party moment
Communism.
"We suspect they're selling illegal drugs..."
"Well, we can't just barge in on suspicion alone."
"...and that they've not paid their taxes correctly."
"My God... Assemble the troops!"
Hehe
Always remember : don't mess with the IRS
Yeah.
This is also what happened with Waco except instead of drugs it was automatic firearms
@@uplift2588 The issue comes up with the fact that, growing drugs was illegal, but the branch davidians quite literally had broken 0 laws by owning the guns. they didn't even really break any laws up to the siege really.
I remember Rainbow Farm, I have family in that area. They really messed up. They fed children the government wouldn't, they employed those their neighbors wouldn't. Can't do that and get away with it.
Michigan did (and still does) use civil asset forfeiture as a bully stick. You can't fight it.
Qxir, perhaps you should look into the U.S. use of civil asset forfeiture. It's amazingly ridiculous and capricious.
Rainbow farms is back btw. They are having a music festival the next couple of weeks
Yeah like the goverment felt threatened because they fed a bunch of city children.
Really?
@@RosinGoblin hell yeah!
@@RosinGoblin source?
The government is the biggest organized crime
These dudes should have got a medal, especially employing the unemployable and paying for kid's lunches for an entire year.
Sad to hear that they died but at least they died together.
Well said
Yeah, I'm not a big campaigner for pot or other drugs (nothing against smoking them, so long as you're not harming anyone else in the process, I'm just not a fan personally,) but these guys sound like they actually helped a lot of members in the community. Any "harm" they caused surely didn't outweigh the good that they did, so long as every part of the story is true.
Yeah.
Everybody dies alone ;)
No there is no real silver lining. He was shot in the head alone on the edge of his property. The other died without his husband and son.
absolute tragedy. Both men broke the law, but the law was the problem here, not them.
Yet the judges will never be held accountable for their crimes
@@freedomfreedom6544 why would the judges be accountable they just enforce the law as its written and based on previous presidents
So you support allowing convicted felons to have guns?
He was going to get the jail time for weapons violations. It's funny because all the gungrabbers don't mind felons having guns.
@@JustSomeDude_. Be careful not to strain your muscles when reaching that far bro.
They seem like genuinely good dudes, also ya can't really be filled with rage or malice when you're posted on the couch with a bag of chips
Oh yes you can. I'm always angry
@@BrownEyePinch sorry to hear that
@@BrownEyePinch that's dark.
Like your profile picture
When going through the process of stress or difficulty it wasnt resilience or mental strength that brought me here. It was pure unalderated RAGE. That is the life.
Yes, but burning buildings is a bit much
I was at the festival the year before this went down. It was a really awesome place filled with really friendly people.
@Munchies 2019 as far as actually dealt with them not really. I know I ran into them out by the gate and they were really concerned about the police getting called for any reason. They were dealing with some medical issue that happened and trying to get the person to the hospital. I know a lot of how they were able to get away with what they were doing was without a warrant the cops couldn’t do anything unless they were called. So they were doing their best to avoid the attention of the cops.
me too...
it was super strange hearing about this incident when it happened. it was such a lovefest, it woulda been fine if they'd just left it alone. I went there a couple summers and it was super chill.
I definitely drove my rusty beater home and worked a shift at Burger king on mescaline when i was 17. what's the problem?
good times, things were different back then.
@@apokatastasian2831 we ran out of gas on the Gary skyway that was a fun adventure.
Burning Rainbow Farm by Dean Kuipers is a good book if anyone would like a deeper dive. These men were part of the arduous history of legalization in the U.S which continues to grow, state by state. Thank you for telling their story.
TY for reminding me of the book, been meaning to read it, I thought a documentary was supposed to be released as well if memory serves but that was pre covid
I haven't been able to read it yet I have ptsd I was there....I worked in the campground store. I miss my brothers dearly n I'm being targeted in my own community like this but I'll follow in their footsteps before they take my land from my kids. Love y'all stay vigilant n true, "a willowey hippie chick" Nikki🦋🌈👥💞✝️
They were too kind to their community, of course their days were numbered
Christians are the only ones that are allowed to do charitable work around these parts. Otherwise you are being suspicious, who just GIVES money away. Fuckin psychopaths
No good deed ever goes unpunished.
Yep
end of the day that doesnt change the fact they illegally had weed and guns with a child lmao no excuses defending criminals . dont do the crime if ya cant do the time which they obv couldnt 😂
@@user-eh4wg2ex6jthey were good people but did dumb things end o’ story.
"If the story happened the way the FBI said it did"
Judging by the lies they told about Ruby Ridge and Waco i would hold my breath. It wouldn't be the first time they burned down an entire complex to cover up their crimes.
to be entirely fair, the point of that gas was to kill the children, which it accomplished. the fire was just a nice bonus for the authorities in that instance. also, the cops were in the right this time, you can only be so agressive before they have to take you on
Could see it going either way honestly, tho the FBI has a huuuuge track record of smoking people out of their enclosures into the open
they really do be taking photos of chared children for the gram 🗿
As expected from the collection of spooks, saboteurs and traitors that helped protect the likes of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell for decades.
fbi + ATF
The FBI has some redeeming qualities, like they find kidnapped kids. Point is someone must do as they do.
But the ATF? FDA can (should) handle booze/cigs, which makes sense. As for firearm regulation, they do a piss poor job, legally redefine terms against logic.
I believe in gun control (so long as it is constitutional), but let's give the job over to someone who doesn’t have the track record.
People have told you that they think Ruby Ridge and Waco were justified for those idiotic reasons? That's.. terrifying.
Many people are anti-government until the government aggresses against those committing thought crimes they don't like.
That’s one of the most mind-numbingly stupid things I’ve heard. I’m guessing it’s one or two troll accounts saying that. Randy Weaver was not an r-word. He was living off the land, minding his own business, not bothering a soul. David Koresh was a plain old nutjob, but what Reno allowed to happen there with absolutely no regard for human life is absolutely disgusting. She was a vile, ignorant woman without a single redeeming quality.
No, man, I'm from the US and your comment on these events, ruby ridge as Waco is spot on. Don't let these boot lickers get you down. 🤘
Getting caught by idiotic means, a pair of growers in New York State were accidentally exposed by the utilities company. The two men were using $10,000 a month of electricity. This eventually led to their wires being fried. The utility company came to repair the lines, but the growers refused them entry, claiming they didn't speak English. Then one of the growers tried to bribe the workers with money. There was an altercation, and the police were summoned. During the investigation the police found evidence of the growing operation, a $3 million operation.
See kids, this is why we use LED lamps.
Family farm gets f'd by new york state
AND??
Wow, those must have been pretty astute detectives.
@@D1GItAL_CVTS Lumen- per-watt HID lamps are more efficient than LED's
I feel sad for the son... losing two fathers.
It was obvious Rohm just wanted to speak with his son until he learned of Tom's death. The poor things lost sight of what was important.
things that are important: love, your son, taxes, the law
things they remembered: don't show up to court, threaten everyone you meet, shoot at journalists and police
yeah uh for once i wouldn't really say the felons are the good guys here
@@boldCactuslad why bother respecting laws when they are selectively enforced.
@@boldCactuslad I mean there were laws that made being gay illegal so...
@@hyperx72 It might be part of a reason why they chose to do rampage against police forces.
@Crystal Myth the son is doing just fine. He doesn’t like being in the public.
I really hope someone sees this video and goes "Know what? I'm gonna use my money to go revive Rainbow Farm and provide for the community, and everything will be legal this time" and keep it that way. It sounds like an actually productive commune for people who need somewhere to go. Imagine that. A shitload of junkies and potheads managed to be the most relaxed and understanding commune in the history of the US.
It’s already going again
I'd love that
Yep. Pay it forward.
It'll be a shitshow with current political climate, mostly be insufferable woketards rather than the Hippies or Leave Me Alone Libertarians.
This isn't a commune. Lets not get the neo-Commies erections.
I remember a couple guys I work with telling me this story, we’re all from Three rivers Michigan. It’s about 5 minutes from Vandalia. But Rainbow farms is still up and running if anyone was wondering, they still do festivals and what not from time to time
I still want to see a Last Moments video on the story of "the Grizzly man"
It's tragic, dark, strange, and just overall intriguing. It'd be a perfect video for the series
Just watch Grizzly Man. You can't beat a bit of Herzog.
@@repletereplete8002 I have lol, and you are correct. My favorite quote is when he was in American Dad for an episode - "so here we are, 2 beautiful creatures, trapped inside the prison of another's design."
However, there's something that's just so great about the way Qxir tells his stories that's so engaging and insightful. Plus, not all that many people know about this incident, surprisingly
My all time favourite movie, revisited by my all time favourite you tuber - please make this happen! For spirit, Mr Chocolate, and the whole gang down at the grizzly maze!
Make it Qxir, or I burn myself
@@Frosty_tha_Snowman I remember Rainbow. I'm 73.
Damn, the US police really seem to be committed to do the opposite of help
they were promoting breaking the law, while breaking the law???
Mostly just the feds
@@shadowknightgaming1874 The police is part of it...
Multiple courts have ruled that the police are not obligated to help you
@@patbak235 Yep, 2A needs to be protected.
Anyone defending drug laws for any reason should take a step back and think about what you're defending. Cannabis laws literally set up for essentially situations like this. These days in most states they would get a slap on the wrist not 20 years in prison. As far as I'm concerned any aggressive enforcement of growers of pot is unethical to the extreme. If you want to go after someone go after the meth labs and the fentanyl dealers.
That would only apply in a world where logic had anything to do with drug policy.
Flying Spaghetti Monster forbid we should ever live in world where "Will this law make everything much worse?" takes precedence over "Will this pander to the right-wing press?".
I never cease to be impressed with the sheer stupidity here in the UK of having a government appointed Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs whose advice gets comprehensively ignored the moment it conflicts with the views of a bunch of Daily Mail reading, Little Englanders who wouldn't know the difference between THC and TCP.
@@Thorium_ A perfectly valid point of view. I'm not over keen on the smell and I've been smoking the stuff for north of four decades.
In the "prefer the smell of horse shit" category I have a lot of air-fresheners, body-sprays and the like that are supposed to smell "fresh". I don't know what the 'fresh' chemical is or what it smells like to other people but to me it smells of anaerobically decomposing melons and it makes me want to vomit. I also hate melons.
Come to think of it I'm not sure horse-shit smells that bad anyway. It's more of an earthy 'country' smell to me. Pig shit on the other hand...
@@Thorium_ I mean it literally when I say some fragrances make me want to vomit. I've been known to leave pubs because people have been over generous with the under arms and there's a street in my home town I avoid because the 'All-Things-Stinky' shop reeks like a charnel house in august to my hooter.
I have to wonder why a legalise weed stall smelled of weed. It can't have been that illegal. I know that there are some places, like the UK, where Satan's Spinach is illegal more in principle than in practice but even so. I could go for a midnight walk with doggo and a spliff and nobody, including the cops, would give shit. Smoke weed outside a school* or at a family fair and the wallopers would be down on me like a tonne (2,204.6lb for those in the colonies) of bricks.
*I know an idiot who did that while waiting for his offspring and thought he was hard done by when he got nicked. 🙃
@@Thorium_ PS: I like the "10 years ago" bit of your user name. That had me baffled for a few seconds 🤣
@@Thorium_ I wonder if it would be fair to speculate that a lot (but not all) of the most vocal advocates for "the ganj" are the worst possible adverts for it and have burned out the parts of their brain responsible for common sense with excessive quantities of THC. I hate stoners 😂
I remember hearing about this when Michigan legalized weed. My teacher was a big time stoner type, and he told us that we had "already fought and died for weed"
Damn. Those poor bastards. I love that they both refused to go down without a fight. I feel awful for their poor son though getting caught in the middle of all that. They seemed really loved by their community and the kind of people who actually did shit to make a difference in people’s lives. It really is a shame they couldn’t get willy nelson to perform there too. Seems like his kind of place!
Good comment Pyro! I agree & I'm not a user of anything, just beer.
And since CPS got a hold of him he was probably put into child trafficking if someone from the community didn't quickly adopt him.
@Mastah Zen Master Zen! Fentenyl & Meth are better than alcohol? I have a friend, he's been a complete drunk all his life, he's 79, still a drunk & been very successful at it. You need to talk to him about how wonderful life can be while being drunk 18 to 24 hours a day. Example: He throws all his bills on the floor of his beat up truck.
@Mastah Zen his friend seems fine. Hope you get to his role old age! 😃
Cops need to live in the community and have consequences from their neighbours.
Hearing "Qxir" at the beginning of the video is comforting because you know you're in for a good story.
I'm sorry but to me that voice sounds like its saying "kimchi" every time.
@@TheWoollyFrog LOLOL
I live about 45 minutes away from Rainbow Farms, and I’ve never heard of it. Can’t believe I learned about local history from this channel!
I live in Cass county, and went to the farms for the festivals.
It was sad to hear how it went down.
I remember cops searching everyone as they came out.
I hear they are doing stuff up there again.
You are my favorite currently active creator that does funny shit it’s fun to be able to follow somebody that is still in their prime and still going hard at what they do a lot of these guys who do funny stuff just give up too early
Sam O’nella 😔
@@booognish Sam O'Nella is sorely missed. I hope he'll come back one day and tell us more stories like the ploy to destroy the unemployed Michael Malloy.
10:57
“We fought the law and the law won, now we are the law so we win”
Great quote
This reminds me of my brother so much. He and his boyfriend grow their own weed, has firearms (legally), and currently has some 6 massive aquariums in their house breeding different types of fish.
Also we live in Illinois; weed is legal, I believe you can grow your own, but only so much and cannot be sold.
Actually on your 4473 if you are a user of any illegal drug you're not allowed to own firearms. They acknowledge states have decriminalized marijuana however it is still illegal under federal statue.
@@bmstyleeforgot bout that one… yeah… so I mean they’re purchased legally, but then he smoked weed. So idk what becomes the crime there.
@@congruentcrib Neither. All gun laws are an infringement.
Feds don’t care about state laws. I’m not saying they’re doing anything wrong I’m just saying don’t forget about the alphabet bois.
Thank you Qxir, for consistency uploading informative and enjoyable videos week after week, it is truly amongst the things I look forward to most every week since I discovered you in December 2021
How have I lived in Michigan almost all of my life and this is the first time I am hearing about this? Excellent episode, thank you very much.
Same!
Stay tf away from tht farm. The feds tht took it now own and operate it. Whole thing is a sting operation dont fucking trustm
dude, same
@@jamvan1000 I am glad we are best friends now.
Guess they're not very proud of this, so they left it out of their visitor's guide.
Genuinely makes me sad and angry to hear about this. The government has shown time and time again that they are your enemy
governments dont give you freedom, they take it away, tax it, regulate it, monetize it. Sure we need rules, yada yada, but humans governing other humans doesn't work. Goverments are accountable to no one, do what they like, justify their actions and are funded by the very people the subjugate. I sure as shit hope theres intelligent life out there somewhere. Earth feels like a failed experiment :/
Except when you "peacefully" burn a city down.
Its funny how the constitution was originally drafted to protect the people from the government and now its just used to trick people into thinking its real. If you piss off the wrong people, they will kill you or put you in prison, 100% of the time. Unless you are a billionaire of course, then you are immune to all laws
Only if you think like that.
@@TheLastPariah89 Yeah, as long as you have no ill feelings about the supreme leader and just do as you are told without so much as thinking something bad can come of it, your government will leave you be.
But the moment you say the government is wrong and you resist their commands... Well, you are their ENEMY and they WILL find a way to end you.
Hey Qxir, I just wanted to thank you for keeping all of your content free.
I really respect it and it’s awesome to see how much your channel has grown since I arrived longg ago.
I enjoy every story you tell, the way you tell them and the art work is just fantastic. You never dissapoint.
These two are the type of people I’d love to just hang out and share a joint or two with.
Bro you'd catch monkey pox
Isn't that one of the things youre not allowed to do, Bright?
@@AnonOmis1000 That’s exactly why he wants to do it
At bright how’s 682 holdin up. You fuckin traumatized him from repeatedly sneaking in with your illegal chainsaw cannon.
I don't smoke anymore but im with you on that one,roll some fat ones and talk shit and bounce ideas.those were the days lol
_"I'm from the govorment and I am here to help"_
*"Johnny get your gun!"*
wow, surprised i've never heard of this before. great work as always man!
Government murdered two people over shotguns and weed, no way
I listened to this video with my phone in my pocket, and then watched it afterwards because I suddenly remembered I was missing out on seeing your animations, and that's something I need in my life!
Looking forward to attending the party happening in August on the farm I live on where there will be loads of pot smoking hippies! My plants should be ready to harvest in the next week or so in preparation for that... Of course, none of it is legal, but whatever...
First I’ve ever heard of the story glad you covered it! That was the way this went down “civil forfeiture“ that happens all too often in the United States! Unfamiliar mostly with cops taking the money but not writing a ticket or giving you any option to get the money back!
The biggest story I know of this is the marine vet, was traveling from Texas to California with 80 grand got pulled over because he supposedly was telling a semi truck, everything was all good I was asking questions like do you have any guns drugs etc. he said no and he goes you’re getting large sums of money he said yes and that’s where it went to shit! They took his money prior to that they told him it’s because there’s a lot of drug traffickers and money laundering or some shit he ultimately ended up getting his money back also it wasn’t the police that took his money they confiscated temporarily and contacted the DEA because you know they get a cut
generally the police departments get to keep everything they seize through "asset forfeiture". that's why they like to do it so much. it's literally legal robbery.
yea the police are sick, FTP
I attended roach roast in fall of 2000 - some incredible strains going around those parts from real home growers. Skunk 2 // a silver haze that leveled a buddy - among others . Incredible.
Love the videos bro! This had me thinking about the often overlooked MOVE Group incident in Philadelphia. The Police dropped a bomb out of a helicopter and deliberately burned down a city block. This was 1972! EDIT it was 1985!
And the ‘73 Wounded Knee Siege
In Western Washington, USA, We had the Love Israel family. Hippies living on a commune in the country. They grew garlic and other vegetables, ran an organic restaurant in town, and hosted a summer Garlic Festival once a year on the farm. It was open to the community, well attended, activities, vendor booths and food prepared around garlic (even garlic ice cream!). That is until a group of Karen's complained about 2 family members swimming naked in the pond during the event. Oh my! Nudity! And the smell of marijuana wafting in the breeze. County officials eventually shut down the festival, then the restaurant, then the family farm, running them all off to Eastern Washington where now aged 70s-90's, they live in love with today. Sad end to wonderful, harmless hippies of the 60's.
Lots of people that got away from the lovers would disagree with your description of the “family”
@@HubertofLiege yeah wasnt it a cult
They now own nothing and be happy?
i remember that cult and the stories of what y’all did to the girl on orcas island 💀
@@Volodimar I think they own nothing now because their benefactor, Steve Allen, quit supporting them and their creditors didn’t.
"Who would win? 1 million libertarians or a single tax form"
Probably the tax form
That’s the joke
Honestly, that's not how any libertarian feels. We like to do our part.
So we make donations to proper, local organizations and get our receipts for it.
Like, I make 50k a year in California and donate about 10k throughout the year at the teenage drop-in center that I volunteer at. Then here comes tax season and bang. They owe me.... It's a two way street.
Even The Joker didn't f**k with the tax man...
I'd rather go down fighting the irs than live letting them fuck me in the ass
@@hobinrood710 well sorry but with behaviour like that you’d be considered alt right. The new left seem far from having liberal values, sadly.
I always save and put on your videos for when I'm making a late night snack or meal. Thanks for being there bud! You rock Qixr!
I was always hoping you'd cover this one ! I was surprised that nearly no one on here has ever talked about it by now
litterally me(except I'm not gay and don't own a drug farm)
Maybe your Bi?
Aw man you got to get you a drug farm, everyone's doing it
@@jimc.goodfellas226 fr fr most people now have two or three drug farms
Gotta catch up
Weed isnt a drug anymore than coffee and Tobacco xD a coffee farm or a vineyard are drug farms just like tobacco and cannabis but their all 3 somewhat harmless but cannabis being the least harmful and the only plant listed that hasn't caused deaths xD people have died from caffiene and from Tabaco and from wine/distilled wine
So you do weed
Happy to be proved wrong, I hail from So Cal and worked for Medical Marijuana Inc! Great video Qxir. We look forward to full legalization so someday that festival will happen!
Well, the only thing stopping it from happening is nobody has done it yet. I am literally smoking weed I bought at a store in Michigan legally right now.
@@MyPhobo based
outstanding video. This story was barely covered in the news, and thanks to a smart Irishman, I have been taken to school. I stayed in Shannon for a little while, and found out why everyone in America loves the Irish. Thank you for your continuing quality content.
I'm so glad that I found your channel. You makes amazing videos about stories that people wouldn't hear about. And this one is just another video assuring that governant isn't your friend amd they cannot be thrusted.
Outstanding content. As always.
Very interesting tale (as always.) I especially appreciated the uncanny comparison to the libertarian analogy at the beginning. 🐍
propertarian, Libertarianism is a communist ideology not whatever Rothbard came up with
As someone from Detroit that never knew about this, just wow.
Is there just so much shit going on in Detroit you didn’t notice?
@@aidanlindell2260 hard to hear about stuff when you're ducking bullets lol
Me either. Though it is surprising the we were the first Midwest state to legalize weed lol
Please do stay away from Detroit. More Detroit style pizza, coney dogs, and weed for me.
Keep the great content rolling! Love the stories you cover!
One of the few channels I’ve subscribed to who’s content I still look forward to
I faintly remember it but like anything else the government does it quickly disappears from the public eye.
I like the peace you did on the man who flew his plane into the IRS building that story literally disappeared the day after it happened, I asked people the day after it happened about it and they told me they never heard of it.
I love the line at the end, here is a pound of My Flesh.
Damn really?
It disappeared from the public eye because it happened like 5 days before 9/11.
@@JohnSmith-sk7cg yeah they only want you to hear about the tragedies they planned
@@texanarchy666 Never attribute to malice what can easily be explained by incompetence.
@@JohnSmith-sk7cg Never ignore wrongdoings as 'incompetence' as that's quite literally the oldest trick in the political book.
"The most dangerous thing about Marijuana, is getting caught with it."
I am born and raised Michigander, and I'm sorry to say I don't remember anything about this?!? I grew up in a small town called Milford, and once married in '87 we lived in and around White Lake, but had family in Higgins Lake, Grayling, and Traverse City. I am blown away!! I had no idea!! Along with all our family and friends, we enjoy camping around pretty much the whole state of Michigan, and I'm stunned. Thank You so much for this video - and all of your videos!! I just tripped across you earlier this evening, and I'm now fully on bingeing!! Your wit and charm sucked me in, this is my 5th one tonight, and being a life-long insomniac it won't be the last!! I'm also a sucker for an accent😉
Wow, how have I never heard about this before?!! It's like an alternate universe Waco... .gay protagonists, "free love" 420 festivals, beloved by their local community _AND_ they paid their taxes! Rather ironic that this couple ensured they covered the one thing that landed mob bosses in jail, only to be sunk by basic felony possession & a hydroponics set up!
RIP boys... and respect for ensuring no-one else could get hurt but you ✌️🌈
Waco, the local community actually liked them until the fake allegations. They helped around their outside local community.
I love to see you grow, been making awesome videos since the killdozer one.
Babe wake up Qxir uploaded!
I am from the area, THANK YOU for covering this! It needs to be more well known.
"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."
If they had been left to their own devices, this would never have happened. Entirely on the hands of law enforcement imho.
@Munchies 2019 Well that's what predators do isn't it?
this has to be one of the sadder tales from the bottle.
Imagine what the helicopter pilot was thinking lmfao
I grew up in Michigan in the '90s and I never heard of this before. Thanks for sharing. Recreational cannabis is a multi-billion dollar industry there now.
I’m sorry, but 200 plants ain’t for the personal use of two guys.
I’m a giant stoner and there’s just no way you and a homie are crushing 400-700lbs of bud even if you had a year to do it.
Thats what I was thinking, like bro how much do you need for your self
Well, maybe if you worked really, really hard at it! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
There was more than just two guys living on the property. My guess is that the pot was for everyone that lived there, hopefully minus the kid.
Well done authoritys, death and destruction would have never occurred if you just pissed off and put your effort into serious crime 😂
Sure let´s just forget the little things like drug growing and illegal guns but worry about the "serious"stuff..
Smart as a stone.
@@ermias75ermis2 smarter than you it seems 🤣
The outcome was tragic.
But it’s not a cops job to decide what’s illegal and what’s not.
@@josephmayfield945 true, but they can refuse to do anything. Just like what happened at that school.
@@ermias75ermis2 While Tom, as a violent felon, absolutely should not have had those guns, the police didn't know they existed until they raided the premises based on him not paying taxes, which wasn't true. Let's not pretend those guns were the issue here. The property was raided because the cops didn't want some local stoners holding festivals on their farm, and the feds decided to play ball. Recreational cannabis is legal in Michigan now, which makes this whole thing even more ridiculous and sad.
I had heard of that farm but never knew of the outcome of it. Hadn’t thought of it in years. Thanks for the memories
Makes me wonder if this couple was targeted more off the fact that they were a gay couple who grew Marijuana that being pot farmers in general. It isn't exactly like Homosexuality was the most accepted lifestyle in the early 2000's, especially if you were in a small rural community
I wouldn't put it past this country.
The past of one of them and how they got caught aside, these two guys seem like very genuine good people. It's really a shame what happened to them, with the government once again being a pain in the ass as it always is.
He was a pedo....
🇺🇲govt don't care 4 genuine peeps.They like saluting the flag,fakeass buzzkills
"Aside from the bad things they did they were good people."
I mean, yeah, but you could also describe serial killers like that.
I'm going to say if you pull a gun on your employer and try to shoot down a press helicopter (or even shoot down a police helicopter, not like it's much of an improvement), and attempt to shoot police officers, you are a bad person.
You know, trying to shoot people bad. It's not really something you can balance out with charity work.
This ignores the ethical issues I could raise about their activities in relation to the growing and promotion of drugs.
@@HALLish-jl5mo Fair points.
@@HALLish-jl5mo Except killers go through with it, serial killers constantly do many permanent bad actions, and them going to violence was a result of the government's overreach
I read the book years ago entitled "The Burning of Rainbow Farm". Super good, what a sad story in the end.
Your ability to tell the story, and show sympathy towards both sides, is exemplary. Nobody on here compares.
Always a good day when you see a brand-new Tales From the Bottle in your recommended
Heck yeah, tales from the bottle rules. Also I can see how much your drawing skills have improved!
Live less than two hours away and never heard of this. Great video as always!
I have binge watched your entire channel - now im listening to it again and double checking ive hit Like on all of them 🍻
To be fair, if they took my son I wouldn't stop doing shit either. At that point, what would I have to lose?
Damn if Rainbow Farm would’ve stand to this day I would’ve gone to their events. A very sad event that would’ve been avoidable if not for the laws of the country.
This was by where I grew up, my birth mom's mom was there, the first time I had ever heard about a government executed slaughter of civilians was Rainbow Farms, good on you for covering it
Love Tales from the Bottle, one of my fav things on YT!
Fascinating story. Great and consistent channel content.
Another excellent episode. Thankyou for your awesome content.
Never heard about this one, thanks for covering it
great video.thanks for the upload
I love how, with your Irish accent, "rainbow" sounds almost indistinguishable from "Rambo".
Love your content so much Qxir!
Damn. Absolutely loving this content man
I'd never heard of this, thanks for covering this story
God bless these men so much for bringing so much happiness to so many people, and they have my ultimate respect for standing up for their rights and dying in active, violent resistance to oppression
Amen
Project wingman moment
I was born in Michigan and lived here most of my life and I have never heard of this event. This makes me so fucking mad honestly. I’ve been to so many Hash Bashes and nobody talks about rainbow farm. Remember rainbow farm!
the old libertarian saying of "i want gay couples to protect their marijuana plants with guns" is actually real. wow.
And now in some states you go into a store and buy it retail. It's inspected and the cost has come way down. Amazing.
Yes we're all free to go pay an exorbitant amount of money + an exorbitant tax fee, for something that essentially costs as much as a tomato. God Bless America 😵💫
Love your videos!!!!
The thing that surprised me the most was how he managed his taxes and ran a 200 plant operation in his basement. I wonder how the fu*king forms must of looked?
Occupation: Farmer and Chemist.
Taxable income: $0
Assets: 200 plants.
Deductions: two old perverts and a 12 year old boy.
he either reported his millions in illegal taxable gains or he didn't. you don't make an operation that large and manage to feed that many kids for that long just to stay on people's good side by having flipped a few houses a decade ago.
I mean they prob just reported the max income you can have before you start looking suspicious. Considering these were drug deals, you can just hide the cash cause it's not traceable unless you put it in the bank or anything that reports to the IRS
I love your cartoons! Boy, you are talented.
I absolutely cherish you added a clip of the great Bill Hicks,thank you again
You forgot the April 1st Hash Bash. Ann Arbor got around weed prohibition by making possession a $5 fine. Randy Weaver was an isolationist really.
Anti-marijuana laws in general solely exist as a means of the government taking care of people that, otherwise, haven’t done anything illegal (at least, not provably). It happened with Al Capone, it happened with Kyle Myers, and it sure as hell happened with Rainbow Farm.
Keep in mind they also had illegal guns as a convicted felon
Cough cough Uk 😠😠
Al Capone got done in by Tax Evasion more than anything else.
Al capone was caught on tax fraud, i assume thats what your taking about. Also, nothing illegal? the Valentine massacre, and much much worse, nothing illegal? idk about kyle myers never heard of em.
@@JustSomeDude_. okay and? So fucking what. The fact *any* felony permanently removes your rice is a giant load of bull patooty.
People try to make It seem like every felon is a hardened violent criminal.
Thank you for another great video. Keep it up please.
love the videos. You have me cracking up! You should look into the kent state shootings of May 4, 1970. Interesting story of the USA National guard killing 4 students.
A force that wants to be left alone will always loose to a force that wants to win.
Truth. This is why I stopped being totally anti-war. I get now that sometimes certain people will not be stopped without extreme violence. Its guys like this that scare cops enough to not just screw with anyone at any time whenever they feel like it. Cause you never know if they are willing to kill and be killed for what they believe. Sometimes the gay hippie be packin heat
tell that to viet cong and George Washington lol
@@texanarchy666 they wanted to win though. They fought back actively
@@tubeguy4066 these people wanted to win too. all 3 groups wanted to be win because they wanted to be left alone
@@texanarchy666 libertarians aren't trying to win, they are doing nothing. They will fade away