Lian-Li O11 Dynamic Mini: It's Not Sure What It Wants To Be
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- As the title says. This case has no idea what it is trying to be.
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Chapters
0:00 - Intro
0:28 - Preface
0:48 - Panel Removal
1:42: - PSU Options
2:43 - SSD & HDD Mounting
3:13 - Front Panel Wiring
3:56 - Cable Management At A Glance
4:23 - Modular Form Factor
5:14 - Optional Vertical GPU Support
6:15 - Included Accessories
6:42 - Motherboard Support
6:53 - Fans And Radiator Support
7:32 - Dust Filters
8:35 - Front Panel IO
8:48 - TG Panels
10:58 - We Hit A Snag with EATX
12:20 - Let's Continue with MATX
15:05 - Cinematic Mode
17:07 - Some Really Interesting Observations
18:08 - Thermals
18:34 - PCPartPicker List In The Description
18:43 - A Missed Opportunity or 2
19:10 - Lack Of Top Radiator Mounting with ATX/EATX Doesn't Make Sense
19:17 - Violet Crumble Build
20:10 - Here Is The Top Rad Solution
20:39 - SFX/SFX-L Is An Odd Choice For This Type Of Case
21:36 - Design & Aesthetics
21:52 - We Don't Have Any White Parts
22:08 - We Didn't Have Enough Unifans
22:27 - Conclusion
24:30 - We Make The Music
24:43 - Final Thoughts
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"You can use the chapters to skip any part of video", I never skip your videos.
This case is made for 1 thing really, and Lian li isn't marketing it correctly:
It's made for making an ITX system with a fuckton of custom watercooling. As a consolation prize for people who still have an ATX motherboard, it supports those in the interim.
Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
this is why i purchased it! I can build a badass mini dtx build that's custom water-cooled and not take up my entire desk.
but who the hell would do that? why not just use the 011d, run an atx motherboard, 3 rads and a full size psu. Who is doing extreme oc with an itx motherboard and an sff psu.
@@mobilePCreviews damn right, i agree with you
@@mobilePCreviews this.
I like it as a reasonable form factor ATX case for those with smaller desks as well
I love rubber grommets in a case. I have it for the first time on my fractal meshify 2 and it's so handy. The same with a removable top cover. This case looks very nice. Keep up the great work.
Huge for ITX, small for ATX. Resurgence of MATX?
Thank God I've been waiting for a review of this case and thank the Lord it's you guys covering it .
What was the recommended fan layout?
Man, sometimes i just come over (as in here, to your youtube channel) to listen to your tracks man. I really like what you are producing man!
Hey, thanks for the nice video, I want to buy the case, can I put my gpu vertical in, if I use my matx motherboard?
ATX will fit with a 360 AIO on the top with an offset adaptor (you can buy direct from Lian Li or there are tons of third party options or you can custom make your own).
A think a lot of people need to remember that Nick is allowed to not like things and that you are allowed to like things. He's not said not to buy it or not to like it, He's said HE doesn't like it.
Everyone likes different things and that's totally ok!
This is common sense; but I can anticipate fanboys of this case is not going to like it.
Personally I like this case, and I think it's a great versatile design for mATX or ITX builds.
But given it's size only an all-out custom water cooling build would make good sense to me; otherwise why not stuff everything in a proper NR200 sub-20 liter SFF case?
@@MichaelChan0308 This exactly. I love SFF personally but one reason to not go sff is that you lose flexibility. Most of my customers and many people in general keep the same case and PSU for essentially forever so being able to still have reasonable motherboard, graphics card, and cooling flexibility is more important than PSU flexibility.
Not sure if I like this bit of common sense you're talking about Klaire.
@@DarrenKrusi 🤣🤣👌
You are allowed to not like it if you use it contrary to its design purpose and it doesn't turn out well.
What’s your favourite premium midi tower case ?
Hi nick umm question, is it possible to mod this case to fit a atx psu ? Like drilling in new holes ?
Thanks for this review Nick - I really liked the look of this but I reckon I'll give it a miss for the lack of ATX PSU support alone.
Appreciate the fair criticism. I just ordered this case and I am about to transfer my build from an ATX case into this. I know it can't fit a 360ML RAD on the top, but can it fit three 120LL fans? Either way, I have a 240ML so I wouldn't need to worry about the problem of fitting my RAD up top. I am still deciding on putting it to the side or at the top, depending on if I can fit three 120ML fans at the top.
I’ve got one on order to transplant my mITX board, psu etc from my NR200p. I wanted a slightly larger case that I could use an AIO, really limiting in the NR200. So would your opinion on this case differ from an ITX point of view?
Does anyone know the vertical and horizontal measurements of the viewable area of the front glass panel? I can’t find it anywhere.
Thanks for your really honest review I appreciate that you didn't hold back your thoughts. I really took your opinion into consideration but when I found this model with the power source included I had to pick it up. Also thanks for showing which motherboard works best for a radiator on the top.
I have the o11 dynamic thats completely air cooled (minus the AIO). I went with 3 bottom and 3 side intake and exhaust on top. Great thermals. I want the mini now and will most likely go with the same fan orientation.
Yes you can, I see someone on CZcams made some offset custom brackets and fitted a rad at the top and bottom in a mini. looked like clear Plexiglas or Lexan polycarbonate what ever you want to call it.
With ATX, is it possible to use dual 140 fans on the top and bottom with a push/pull 280 AIO on the side?
Question about fan config: the bottom 3 fans are intake, side and back fans are exhaust right?
I truly fell in love with that Gigabyte board with no chipset fan but I just can't justify spending $699 on Motherboard alone, so beautiful.
I own the O11D and the O11D-XL both with custom loops and EK DistroBlocks, I guess I might pick this one up just to complete the set.
I understand your dislike of the case and you in no way have to justify it. You laid out very well why you made your decision and honestly it makes a lot of sense.
You did however manage to create an amazing video and an awesome looking build as you always do.
Thanks for the honest review and the best preview I've seen on this case of what I'll be dealing with if I do buy it.
Cheers...
Oh and PS.
"There are plenty of people who already don't like me"...
That may be true but remember Brotha' there are a lot of us out here who adore you and the misses and your honesty...
i want this but i cant find a good z390 mATX board. anyone have any suggestions?
I have matx mobo and noctua nh-u12A. Is this case good for air cpu cooler?
I have a question, what kind of fans did you buy for this case because this case does not come with fans, so you should buy it, and what kind did you buy? Because I also want to buy this bag, but I do not know which fans are suitable for it, so I ask people what kind of fans they bought for this bag
for the side of the case could i do 2 140mm fan or larger so thiers less of a gap?
What would your fan configuration suggestion be if you are building with an ATX board and a 240mm Rad on the side?
I'm actually moving my custom loop from the O11 Air to this. Just waiting for the case, SF750 PSU and mATX motherboard to arrive.
I love the fact that I can fit my two 360 mm radiators inside the O11D Mini. Also I'm happy that they made the choice to only allow SFX PSUs because that makes the case a lot smaller.
So full atx wouldnt work ?
@@anhtiennguyen1208 If you are going for a 360mm radiator on top, then yeah it won’t work.
Thank you for your honest review of this case. I will be watching more of your videos from now on. 👍
Im glad you included the E-ATX snag. I just got this mobo and was considering hard getting this case so knowing it wouldnt be possible it great info
Can the front brushed aluminium panel be removed? I would like to spray it white
So I can go w a atx Board when I put my 240 rad on the side ?? And waht psu I have to buy ?
Glad to see they made room for a fan in the rear unlike the o11 dynamic !
This is just as nice a case as the XL and regular version.
I bought the regular a few months back which i plan to build my futur pc in :)
Does the mATX mb have usb type c front panel connector?
got a question here. what if i use an atx mobo and mount 240 aio on the side? will it be a good airflow? anyone? sorry for bad english 😅
how did you put your logo on the pump plate? This is an idea that really peaked my interest! I could laser etch something similar on my rig perhaps. Although it would mean upgrading from my corsair H100i gen 1.
Hey guys, do you think i could brute fit atx psu in there ? Anybody knows exact dimensions of space designed for psu there ?
How did you get the gif to work on the aorus extreme. My rgb tool is just broken
I turned it on and it worked.
WRT the top radiator, it seems like you were saying a 360 won't fit due to the IO shield. What about a 240? he kind of danced around it later on but I didn't hear him say "240 works fine"
I appreciate the candor! The ATX part doesn’t bother me at all, I’m totally fine using mATX to do a 360 top mount. The only problem for me, like you said, is the power supply. I’d love to see a black build with the black unifans in the same radiator config...if you’re willing! Set all the lights to white...it’d look so sick!
I was hoping to fit 2x 240mm rads and a full loop for my 5600x/3080 strix in my NR200. The radiators fit, the cpu block fits, the tubing route works just the gpu block is 10-15mm too tall and sticks out of the case. This case looks like it might be the go, huge for itx but no compromises on the cooling front and I'd be curious to see just how much I could push the 3080.
When is the Vertical GPU mount going to be available for sale ?
Watched until the end, thanks so much for this as I hadn't until today seen that it needs an SFX PSU. I probably could've gotten past the 350mm rad thing as I have a 280mm AIO in my current case and could've used that as intake but It's going to cost as much for the PSU as the case almost in AUD to be able to run a 3900X and 6800XT.
Would this fit a DTX board?
Showing us how the tint comparison was a nice, great review.
is it compatible with cooler master vertical mount?
11:10 does this mean I could potentially drill my own holes in order to mount the 360mm rad up top?
i believe you can fit one anyway if you are running ITX
GGF Events has 3 custom water cooled builds for each mother board type ITX, ATX and M-ATX
@@ryancramer5147 you can also with matx. Just the regular atx wont fit a 360.
Silly question no RGB going from top to bottom up front?
Great build video fams. I wonder if this case will be over hyped like the bigger version. Great case non the less
Is the riser cable pci-e 4.0?
Thank you Nick for being honest ! huge thank you coz i also learned a lot today, a lot of people would have cut that part where you installed the "wrong" motherboard but i am really glad you kept it.
Whats the fan size your using the on the side
Can ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming ATX Motherboard, AMD Socket AM4 can fit in this case? I'm also putting the Lian-Li GALAHAD 360mm.
Nick, if you ever get around to it could you do an ITX build in the 011 mini.
I have an h210i... the thing gets toasty as hell and I have been impatiently waiting for this to release to transition my build over. After watching some videos, the only hesitation I have is it wont fill the case out. Its almost like I need that 3080 Adobe Brick Gigabyte sells to just fill take up more space.
I was considering this case for my build a few weeks ago. But I ran into the same issues you described when looking closer at it. I was planning a dual 360mm radiator and I saw that wasn't quite possible for my ATX board. Second was the PSU. I'd have to buy a new one which wasn't in my budget atm. So got a Neo QUBE 2 for $40 more. The full O11 Dynamic was way out of my price range in my area. Double what I paid for Neo QUBE 2. I'm glad I managed to find and get the last one that was in stock :D They really missed on a lot of opportunities with the O11 Mini because of the radiator clearance but mainly the PSU requirements.
Nick, will a 240 aio fit all the way to the front with an atx motherboard?
Should! The main clearance concern is with the I/O shield, and to a lesser extent any particularly large VRM heatsinks your motherboard may have topside.
Optimum Tech showed a 360 rad fitting up top with an ATX board, though it's largely dependent on motherboard heatsinks, RAM height and the rad width.
I do respect your opinion and legit frustrations with this case. If this case doesn't suit your needs, it does seem like a bad design with many missed opportunities. I think the O11/O11 XL already meets the needs for people with ATX/E-ATX boards and ATX PSUs. It seems that this case is better suited for mATX/ITX/DTX users who want more watercooling options (ITX/SFX != SFF). It's crazy to be able to support 2x 360 + 1x 280 rads for the smaller ITX/DTX form factors and is only 1 inch longer than my current Caselabs Mercury S3.
I preordered two in white for me and my wife and it will be her first time watercooling! We do have smaller motherboards (X570 CH8 Impact and Strix ITX) though, so we get maximum configuration options without any of the frustrations you experienced. While there are other great review videos out there, I think your video did a great job in showing who this case is not for and that's 100% okay!
it's pretty cool how many build options you have with the case, but mATX and miniITX seem to be better suited for the case for sure. Shame about the 360 mm aio support, but the loss of rad support when running eATX was covered by roman with his introduction video so not really surprising. It makes for a nice show case, especially for custom watercooling on a Crosshair VIII Impact 5950x build, could do full rad support that way and get a very clean build
Id love to build in one of these. Definitely MATX.. Been looking into getting one eventually.. Side mount rad is a really cool thing with front glass for looks. Really neat case.
I always value your opinions. That why I subbed and keep coming back! I pre-ordered the black one to try. Guess I better get a sfx power supply now.
How’s it going with the sfx power supply?
It’s not out yet. I’ll let you know when I get it
I bought this case and a refurbished corsair 600 gold from Amazon. Wish me luck
Can you guys recommend me a good fan hub, I have 9 asiahorse fans and I don't know how to plug them all.
6 exhaust and 3 intake? I’m new to pc builds, is it beneficial to have more exhaust than intake?
If you are looking to have negative pressure inside the case.
I don't normally build like that because it means anywhere there's a gap in the case it will draw in air.
Personally I build for more of a positive pressure in the case.
That of course means it will mainly draw air from where you want it to, filtered intakes, and not from all the spaces it can find.
Both ways of building work and it mainly depends on what you are wanting.
Look into videos of Negative vs Positive pressures for building.
Hope that helps, cheers...
Not being exactly a mid tower is the main appealing thing, ist really a matter of personal taste, the functionality is good for many builds...not for others. Beatifull build, on point review, the "she is great but I don't like it" was funny.
Subscribed.
If you have a radiator on the side you will get better thermals and less noise if it is set up for intake. The only down side is you are looking at the back side of your fans.
So I'm just asking, does the lian li AIO didnt come with thermal paste applied already?
I can't remember. I've use it like 10 times in videos
@@GearSeekers ah, thanks for reply. I thought it was brand new aio xD
I appreciate what you expressed as far as why you didn't like the case. Title matches content. Great review. Great detail. Sounds like it wasn't for you and it could have been with some small changes (e.g., 5mm height). That said, I watched this twice and still bought the case. ATX build with two radiators still supports 750 - 800 watts of cooling with an ATX + ; and then there' still room for 3x noctua fans on top and 1x exhaust fan. This case will still be the best choice for many builds and use cases.
Appreciate your calling out tech "sages" posting click bait videos.
I want this case. Always like SFX, but find it too constricting. This seems to really strike a balance in a more mATX system with tons of cooling options. Definitely waiting for this
can you run a push pull setup with a 240mm aio on the side using an ATX board?
Believe it can be done. You should be able to use even a 280. For me,ideal is a 240 or 280 rad on the side with 55 or 60mm rad and side intake. Bottom intale to solely cool gpu and top and back for exhaust.believe its most ideal as rad get most air to cool cpu. Gpu has best air intake.also exhaust is unobstructed, helping to remove hot air and keep temps lower
I know they definitely missed the opportunity of a second 360, but tell me the name of midtowers that support ATX boards and 2x360 radiators at the same time.
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What ram is that??
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Could you potentially mod the top to fit a 360 rad though? Just drill some holes, right?
I’ve got this case. You can only mount a 360 rad in the top using an mATX MB. ATX won’t have clearance for RAM and I/O heat sink.
Please share the SF PSU used in the build
Something seems wrong. Why would it be better to have the side fans as exhaust? Aren't they robbing the top radiator of air flow? If the three fans at the bottom are filtered and the two side fans are not filtered the case is already at negative pressure. That would mean that the radiator fans are already having to overcome that negative pressure. My build in an o11 air has nine filtered intake fans and the 360 radiator is side exhaust. CPU is a 3950x and all fans idle at ~800 rpm with an idle temperature of 7c over ambient (except it lives in a cubby hole so 10c over ambient). CPU-Z stress test at stock is 48c above ambient while in the cubby hole. I am considering changing the radiator to the top so it will get more airflow over the VRM because it is VRM temperatures that is limiting my OC.
Edit: I had a conservative fan curve of 800 to 1200 rpm. Setting all fans to max ~1700 rpm CPU-Z stress ran at 44c above ambient in the cubby hole. So at ~41c above if not in the cubby hole.
Bottom intake and the rest exhaust?
just got my o11d the normal one few days ago and I don't think I regret it.
Could you do a mod video to get a 360mm AIO at the top? Really want to downsize to this case with my 360mm AIO and ATX motherboard :{
Not worth it. Go for another case
@@GearSeekers That is unfortunate, thanks for the tip tho :)
Maybe part of the reason they decided to go with an SFX PSU was to allow for better compatibility with high end air coolers? In order to fit a D15 or DRP4, you need to step up to the 011D XL which is ~15mm wider than the Mini, not to mention much taller and longer. Also, maybe that extra width gives a bit more clearance from the TG panel when mounting the GPU vertically?
While the lack of 360mm AIO top mounting support in ATX mode is a huge missed opportunity IMO as well, I don't mind mounting a 280 AIO on the side. I was originally going to go SFF with an NR200, but man, this thing is damn sexy.
I'm still going for it. Going for custom loop ATX with the radiator on the bottom and back. Also I plan on using 2 sfx PSU's--one on top and the other where the HDD's goes, but plans do change, so we will see the final results.
P.S. Thanks for the video and I do agree that they could of adjusted the case to fit a standard ATX PSU and raise the case height slightly.
So can I fit an X62 280mm plus a full ATX motherboard on the side ?
Yeah if you want
but isnt it a negative air preasure?? the two side mounted fans must be intakes ...
You just saved me a huge headache with 360 rad hitting the board thank you
someone is going to mfg a front distro plate, and this case is going to be AWESOME!!!
you didn't elaborate on why you suggested the 2 side fans be exhaust.. You stressed it like 3 times with no explanation. It also looks like you got 3 intake fans, and 6 exhaust in this build?
If a use a ATX motherboard, can i use a 360mm AIO on the top?
You won't be able to because an atx motherboard is quite tight.
Why not mount a 280mm AOI in the side tubes down (most have 400mm+ tubing) and keep the top for triple 120mm exhaust? That keeps ATX boards usable
The music is amazing!
It always is! :)
I waited most of the year for this case but just pulled the trigger on the original O11 a few months ago glad I did tbh! I would’ve wanted to use Atx and an Aio at the top! Glad I didn’t buy all my parts and realise later 😂Great video Nick as always man 😁💜.
Love this honest review 🤘
Reminds me of an Aquarium, cant wit to get mine! Thanks for the review
The "E-ATX" (SSI-CEB) build, using the same motherboard, should actually be possible with a 280 AIO on the side, as long as the AIO and PSU is monted before the motherboard. With an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280, with the radiator mounted "inside" and the fans on the "outside", the motherboard would overlap the radiator a little bit, it would be very tight and the 24-pin ATX power cable wouldn't fit between the motherboard and the radiator so it'd have to be routed "above" the motherboard instead. This is all according to my rather careful calculations based on the O11 Dynamic Mini blueprints, and it's the build I'll be going for.
If it turns out I'm wrong, I'll go the custom loop route. :)
Oh, and many thanks for a great video!
Its ny opinion that a top mounted exhausting AIO Cant get the best CPU thermals because its eating GPU exhaust as its coolant.
Side AIO intake for a cool CPU, and bottom intake for a cool GPU. Top and rear are heat exhaust.
Amazing video guys!
This channel needs a lot more recognition! Quality content man!!
This is strange but I kind of like this idea: I'm not sure that I like that SFX is the *only* option here but I already have a 700 watt SFX anyway so I can power a very reasonable amount of hardware with it as it is. Being able to fit ATX and mATX means that motherboard choices are suddenly a lot better. Size is not ideal, sure, and it's not the smallest ATX size I've seen (Check out the Riotoro inverted ATX case from several years back) but it still have options otherwise not found like more 3.5 if you want those fancy hellium 10+ terabytes of video storage without additional NAS.
This would compete directly vs Corsair 280x but with the option of also using ATX while sacrificing the ATX PSU compatibility, which I think has its uses but for people that very specifically want ATX motherboards on a smaller tower size footprint, not compact but about as small as it gets for the very generous radiator support.
i love this case, in fact this is the first case that I use on my first ever build, and its pretty easy to work with, will upgrade to premium water cooling soon
Is it too big in your opinion?
@@swizzler8053 its perfect in this size just the design of the front intake is not efficient enough to push air in
@@NightmareChronicles49 thnx for the reply bro.
@@swizzler8053 aaiight
I like that its an ultra compact ATX case or a major ITX water cooling case. The SFX PSU limitation is a slight bummer.
Massive bummer for me. Sfx PSU is like double price of ATX if you want same quality atm
so what is the “optimum” fan configuration?
well I guess its like he showed it in the video. I have mine currently set like this: top/aio intake, side/exhaust, bottom/intake. The temps are good but honestly its not really aesthetically pleasing and a lot of dust comes from the top at some point. I'll change it like shown in the video to try it out.
what do you do with the pcs you built in previous videos?
throw them in the bin or scalp them on eBay.
Not really. We tear them apart and reuse the parts later.
@@GearSeekers ok i just wondering thanks for the reply :)
We do teardown videos all the time 😉
that's not disappointing at all considering that if you want to go full watercooling you can buy already o11 dynamic, o11 air and o11xl; how many chassis do you need for a watercooling build?! or better: what should I say then? if you want to build an air cooled pc in a case like the original o11d u're forced to buy the xl version that is both expensive and huge, cause it was obviously designed to fit 200 radiators and 600 fans.
don't wanna even mention that I need sfx psu for this new case, so another downside compared to any other o11d