‘Realistic prospect’ of NATO going to war with Russia as Turkey blocks minehunters | Frontline
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- “There’s a concern that Turkey’s ambiguity in this might be encouraging Russia rather than deterring them.”
Blocking British minehunters destined for Ukraine could lead to NATO going to war with Russia, says Hamish de Bretton-Gordon on Frontline for #TimesRadio.
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Never seems like Turkey is really an ally of NATO.
Yeah it's insane those NATO members that do so many things against their own alliance all the time since the start of this war.
The leaders of Turkey is absolute garbage.
Cowards have always existed.😊
True. It seems Turkey will not do anything or agree to anything if they dont somehow get something in return. I wonder what they really got, for letting sweden join Nato. Plus they are clearly playing both sides. I get that they have some strategic value with their place in the world. But damn they are really milking their position for everything they can at every chance.
@@JP-fn5xt what makes them a coward?
So sick of the obstructionist role that these fringe nato nations, such as turkey and hungry, are playing.
😂 try fighting one to one instead of needing to be cowards fighting 31 v 1
Are you saying puny Ukraine is too much to handle for the Mighty Bear?
Krembot thinks its at war with Nato 😂.
@@jamesgreen1116 I deduce that friendship and civilization have no places in your worldview.
@@MotoRide. the cowards in nato should remember there humiliation in Afghanistan not too long ago.
I get the feeling the Turkey is like the Scorpion on the back of the dog crossing the river
Turkey !
Well, here we must thank the Russian foreign minister mr.Lavrov.
Right with the beginning of their illegal invasion against Ukraine, the man mentioned about the Cyprus issue and how all those western countries hypocrites are still have their eyes,ears and Mouths completely shut about
Excellent and realistic analysis by an experienced officer giving good military and strategic reasons as to why the defence of Ukraine is so important.
"The defence of Ukraine"? I see NATO has moved 1000 milesEASTWARDS since the 1990s...... It's RUSSIA that is defending herself now.
lolz! 🤡🤡
Turkey is like that one mate who always goes missing when its their round
"goes missing when its their round" having stolen your wallet first.
@@Evan490BC😂😂😂😂😂👍
I think Turkey is trying to play for both teams, Erdogan has similar plans to Putin and in a way wants to revive the Ottoman Empire.
Good analogy.
That self-interested friend
This Russian war is like a cancer Ukraine didnt ask for. Fight for survuval is terrible but giving up means a certain death for the country and people
Excellent analogy! I may borrow that ... with your permission.
@susansprague7304 of course
Actually then did they knew what they were doing
Ukraine wanted this war and now you see how it looks like
@@veselinivanov7208 Can you provide more substance to your theory? Why do you think Ukraine wanted to be invaded?
All killer, no filler. Thank you to both these people for this interview. Will be keeping an eye out for future instalments.
This is positive talking by someone who is informed and qualified, 👍
Kate is the best interviewer of all Times Radio presenters and one of the best I have ever seen anywhere. Many interviewers seem not to know how to listen or are more concerned with pushing an agenda. Kudos to Kate!
Yes i agree i always find these interviews very interesting.
She also sleeps with black men...
You are easily pleased. She fails to ask him why he believes Russia would want to expand west. She fails to ask him who he believes is winning the war and why. She fails to challenge his warmongering attitude that NATO should intervene if Ukraine look set to lose.
@@gainsbourg66 Ye and the genetically modified mosquitos!
@@gainsbourg66 -she wasnt pushing an agenda she just let him speak without too much interference. I think you were hoping more for a debate whereas this was an interview.
Turkey was always an adversary of Europe never an allied.
US is the adversary of Europe. It blew up Nordstream and deindustrialised Germany.
Unfortunately millions of Turks live here in Germany. Europe is better without Islam.
And they had the cheek to want to join the EU 😂
So they could flood us with even more kebab shops & barbers
Not always, during the Mustafa Kemal Ataturk period Turkey turned toward the West and he wanted to as he said face Europe and away from the Middle East. That all ended when Erdogan was elected some 20 Plus years ago and had a lot to do with the purge of the Turkish Military a few years ago by Erdogan. Under Ataturk the military had a special place in making sure the constitution was followed. That ended with the Purge.
Turkey is helping to not escalate the war for the UK. Cheers Turkey you are a true pal.
Minehunters are essential for keeping the risks for commercial shipping on a relatively tolerable level. Minehunting and other mine countermeasures allow keeping the food transport route from Ukraine open. Having floating mines on shipping routes will increase the possibility of mines hitting civilian cargo ships, loss of life. This is not just a problem for Ukraine, but skyrocketing shipping insurance costs could make commercial shipping untenable also for some other Black Sea nations, including Türkiye and Russia.
You spelled Turkey wrong. Also, Ukraine are laying mines, too. We don't need food from Ukraine. All we need is for the tinpot fathead running the place to be arrested.
Hello Kate, I hope you had a wonderful Christmas. Nice to see you back with another great video 🇬🇧👍
There is no fatigue. The desire to help Ukraine in Europe and the USA is a strong as ever. The Middle East is tragic but Russia attacking Europe is far closer to home and will need dealing with soon.
American, ukranian supporter here. Most Americans could care less what's going on in Ukraine and would much rather have money spent here. Sad but true.
@@ramtron1775 Do you not see why most Americans care less? You literally just explained it. How dare they want THEIR money spent on THEIR country.
For America, the war in Gaza is way more important than Ukraine. It's destabilizing our politics and there needs to be an end to it soon and the 2 state solution moving forward. Whether Hamas or Netanyahu and the current government will be part of a solution, who knows, that's up to them but we need peace because the US is very exposed geopolitically in that war. Ukraine is tragic but Russia poses no threat to the US, they are a regional power.
So I would just say, if what happens in Gaza doesn't matter to Europeans, maybe Ukraine shouldn't matter to the US. This also goes for Taiwan, if it's important for the US, it better be important for Europe. None of this, oh it's tragic but not our issue.
But parts of europe are closer to Gaza then ukraine
I need to talk to your dealer
Well,as someone of 90,I think that most people have had enough of wars!
well most people did not want it to begin with .. but russia force it on us. Ukraine did not attake russia , NATO did not attake russia. But NATO and other country give ukraine weapon to defend it self
Maintaining this position that it is Ukraine fighting Russia and not US/UK/NATO must be exhausting
It is so fantastic to listen to a conversation or interview where the person asking the question actually allows the person to answer. Also, it is so nice to hear the question being answered. Amazing interview.
You're quite right, this is a really informative interview with two fine participants.
That's because they both believe in the same thing. This is not an interview, it's an exposition of the British Uniparty view of world affairs. Over these matters, there is no discussion, and not a trace of argument.
you can clearly see his eyes moving and reading his answers off a screen.
aww you don't wanna see Julia Hartley-Brewer hosting Frontline?
@@jasonpowell6374 And the only reason you say that is because you are with Russia's troll farms and everyone knows it.
Another great interview Kate. You get wonderful guests, you actually let them talk, and ask all the pertinent questions and great follow-ups. Wishing you all the best for a Splendid 2024💙💛💖
3 hearts for a random woman 😂😂
@@ZRICH7 Russian troll
@@ZRICH7 Intelligent, well-educated and emphatic women delivering stellar journalism are not ‘random’. They are certainly less random than you.
If the minehunters (small ships) are allowed passage via the Bosphorus, then the argument and treaties that prevent Russia replenishing the Black Sea Fleet by blocking passage of the Bosphorus may be argued to have been broken. Russia may then consider forcing passage to bolster its own fleet. The minehunters are small vessels and it may be that some other route may be practical.
This only shows how unintelligent our armed forces are about the situation..Hamish you are just plain thick!!
This is Turkey’s gift to Russia.
@@FreedomStrike76ur a total idiot
@@FreedomStrike76 you sound like you are trying to convince yourself...
@@FreedomStrike76 No, it sounds like you are spitting ridiculous lies. Facts need to be substantiated.
No you are not, troll. Just deluded.@@FreedomStrike76
Prove him wrong without using MSM for your verification, it shouldn't be difficult if you are correct...@@Fangs1978
Agree with this man . This is a top priority.
It seems humanity will never learn. The horrors of world war 1 and 2 seem to be forgotten. And with all wars what truely is achieved?
Making the rich more rich, but thats what these sheep don't realize
Under WW1 it was achieved that not all of Europes cultures were replaced by the german culture, identity and language.
Under WW2 the same, plus millions more of people would have been sent to the gas chambers.
So, we achieved pretty much I think
@@user-mh7ng4vn9l clearly it’s not worked though has it? We are still fighting even after all that.
@@lordwellingtonthethird8486 It worked perfectly. You speak english to me, not german. If you are from an European country, you preserved your culture, ways and language. That’s worth fighting for. There will always be Putins in the world. They usually meet a pityful end. By the sword they live and by the sword they die…
Nato need to have a chat with Turkey and tell them, stop sleeping with Putin..... or your out !....
How can the west abandon Ukraine now? NATO should be100% supportive.
The west will abandon Ukraine because it doesn't have the money and the arms, and the Russians are too powerful, and the westerners are not willing to be killed for Ukrainians. Simple.
Because they know Ukraine is a completely lost cause
They won't be and they can't be.
with what they have no
munition and no weapons
@@designerhomes9687 And no sense of realism either.
I still do not understand the reluctance of the West to supply Ukraine with weapons capable of taking down the Kerch Bridge.
@@samuellopesbaule5745what are you smoking? Putler must be your daddy! Keep up the good job 🧌
A few crates of Rapid Dragon would do the trick.
@@samuellopesbaule5745 Underestimated the russians... whose invasion has completely stalled with massive losses of almost all their modern tank force and 50% of the stuff they mothballed from the 70s. Imagine if NATO gave them some Apache gunships or A10s.
@@tm-ln4hj right now I'm smoking an expensive cigar from Cuba, Cohiba is the name and drinking a 15 year Dimple whisky.
Look, don't be a BIB fool and loser. Writing my opinion doesn't make me the son of Putin or something like that! Only a perfect idiot can say that kind of nonsenses! You may disagree with my opinion, which is fine! But, don't go to beyond that. Ok?!
@@samuellopesbaule5745 They have nukes that is the only worrying thing about Russian military. They are a pitiful force compared to Americans. What did NATO go to Afghanistan for? Is the terroist threat greatly diminished. Job done.
Another really excellent interview, thank you so much Katie and Hamish. As mentioned below, it was informative and comprehensive. Nicholas
It was informative if you dont mind believing thr 90% that was lies, damn lies and wild fantasies.
@@MrSlavikman Russian troll farm
@@JavierWestbrook typical nato sleeze, cant answer the points, use Gestapo tactics to shut everyone up.
Hamish! It's always good to get your perspective.
We cannot afford to let Ukraine fail , so something has to give "
You can definitely afford it, also, Ukraine is none of your business.
you think europe and usa care about ukraine.....think again
@@martyn4501 you Russia trolls are very active, obviously the putin trash are scared
We do. You think again.@@designerhomes9687
Certainly none of russias business. russia has a long history of loosing wars. Ukraine will be the next war russia looses.@@martyn4501
Always a great privilege to listed to Hamish de Bretton-Gordon's views
So many wars ... The British people are good with this? I rather doubt it.
Turkey said months ago that military ships would be banned. Where's the surprise?. Didn't Sunak know?
All GB has to do is send the mine sweepers to a NATO country on the Black Sea - then that country can transfer it to Ukraine. That is allowed by the convention.
Still it's not in the interest of Turkiye
Silly turkey aint allowing them in and the minesweepers they are on about are ships to sweep all the sea mines.
The treaty states they can block any military ships. Whether it is at war or not. They just have to say they feel threatened and that's that. They can't block civilian ships unless those countries are involved in a war. So in essence they can simply say no. Also according to the treaty any military ships going to enter have to give advance warning, Turkey has to inform the other signatures of it in advance too. So Russia would also know. So no that is not going to happen
Ukraine has purchased these ships. They are not UK property.
They can be sent via the Danube, a few weeks later but without putting Turkey in a bad situation
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
Fortunately Russia did something about the evil of the US and NATO.
"good men" you mean NATO? after Yugoslavia, Iraq, Lybia...?
@@wolfcookerBackDon't forget Syria , Ukraine.
Prior to this SMO Ukraine murdered 15,000 people for nothing more than speaking in the Russian language.. there’s the Evil. And my view is Russia ran out of patience and decided to do something about it.
Yet, you will do nothing.
You want someone else to do it.
95% Russian misiles shot down the damage on the ground doesnt look it.
I'm a Ukraine supporter but I also recognise the complexities here. The Montreux Convention has been around since 1936 and prevents warships of belligerent states transiting. It stopped Germany sending U-boats into the Black Sea during WW2 (the Germans actually transported several U-boats in pieces by rail and reassembled them in Romania because of it!). I wouldn't be surprised if mine hunters being relatively small displacement could reach Ukraine and eventually the Black Sea by inland waterways though that would probably require Hungarian co-operation.
It's a a bit of a stretch to expect treaties to only work when in your perceived favour.
Turkey is the ruler of the Black Sea -- what Turkey says goes.
what like the way the west treated the minsk agreement?
That was my thought too. I was working on a project for Azerbaijan and getting the oil and gas plant modules via Russia inland water ways was an option. So a small minesweeper should be no problem.
@@boink800that is the very hypocrisy Russia talks about: "we set the rules, so we get to break them when we whant to".
@@briancarno8837the Minsk agreement was only needed because the Russian Federation broke the Budapest Memorandum multiple times (2008/2014/2022).
Minsk 1 and 2 where broken by Russia as well and „the west“ as you claim had no part in it as it was a cease fire for western Ukraine.
So please, don‘t make false claims and accusations. Thank you
"Sometimes it seems Turkey forgets it's a NATO country." That's always been the Turkey's (and the Ottoman's) tactic: stay somewhat neutral/ambiguous to the benefit of themselves in the face of being extremely outgunned.
I think Erdogan is going much further. He's severing ties with the EU, and NATO is only the next step. He doesn't like democracies that challenge his autocratic rule. As long as he's in NATO, he can't do as he pleases... although he's already trying (buying S-400s is one thing) and I think he's seriously risking an exit, for his own gain. Well he needs Putin's billions to keep his economy afloat, that same economy he wrecked with sheer mismanagement. Putin's bailing him out. He does favors in return.
What kind of ally is that? He's not an ally, I can tell you that. Suppose Russia invades Estonia, a fledgling democracy. I cannot imagine Erdogan helping out and fighting Putin, the hand that feeds him, only to save one of those democracies that are criticizing his rule and are making his life more difficult.
If the West didn't support Turkey's enemy PKK/YPG in Syria, Turkey wouldn't not make such a fuss.
@ferka6447 true
As a Turk, Russians are more reliable than NATO. When the time comes, we will leave NATO. NATO is the enemy of Turkey.
Everybody looks after their own interests first !!! Turkey is no different.
There's not any Turkey's ambiguity. It's simple, they don't want conflicts in their borders. With all respects, to keep peaceful a zone requires determination and courage.
As part of the EU, they need to act like a partner of the EU. If they want to be independent and make independent choices, in favor of their other friend Russia, they should be rejected from the EU.
What
Turkey ,is already a troublemaker nation .
War ...
With Syria,
Iraq ,
Occupies the half almost of Cyprus
Threatened Greece about the Aegean islands
Come on now.
Oh boy is this guy full of faith
Good analysis, much appreciated.
Great analysis thanks
If you have the explosives, clearing a path through mines isn't a complex one.
Very True.....
Anytime Hamish speaks, it is wise to listen, he is a very knowledgeable person.
He is a complete clown. Amazing people believe his drivel
He talks in riddles. Russia is trying ... As opposed to Russia is winning. They are not throwing everything at Ukraine. It is Ukraine when you court defeat and NATO when you are selling weapons, Hamish...
Hahaha, this idiot?
He promised everybody that challenger 2 tanks will “sweep Putin’s conscripts aside”
On the contrary. Every time Hamish speaks you get nothing but British warmongering, anti Russian propaganda and lies. Bad journalism, no surprise though.
Indeed he is.
Kate is a great journalist. The best on Times Radio. She asks great questions, listens, doesn't do slant, and respects her guests. Professional.
Sending warships against a country fighting with shovels. Yay
So why don't they use the Danube river to deliver these mine sweepers?
The irony is that those mine sweepers, in the long run, would actually save both Russian and Ukrainian lives.
The Black sea is prone to severe weather storms that result in tremendous waves throughout the entirety of the Black Sea. We actually saw this happen recently when Russia's sea defences along Crimea where swept away in late 2023.
That severe weather problem is going to eventually result in a loose mine, or an unlucky ship, accidently detonating one of the many hundreds of mines currently planted there.
The less sea mines there are in the Black Sea, the better it will be for everyone. For Ukrainians, Russians, and the world. Ukraine and Russia aren't the only ones who use those shipping routs, and they aren't the only countries in the Black Sea.
Don't worry about it.
Bold of you to assume that the Russian government cares about the lives of their citizens.
Russia really doesn't require the assistance of the Royal Navy to demine their territorial waters.
@@Veldtian1 Well, that covers around 66,854 square km, but that leaves random mines menacing the other 369,548 square kilometers that Russian ships also pass through. Considering the number of Russian Navy ships getting large holes put in them lately, it seems like they might have trouble with anything west of the Kerch Strait.
I mean a war is going on, I think both Ukrainians and Russians have a bit more to worry about than the mines. I fully encourage people to check their smoke detector batteries regularly. You could die in a fire of you don't. But much like the mines, this is not that important compared to a war.
Super interview with articulate and great soldier. Good job. Keep up the good work Kate.
Does this guy imply that Turkey should just stomp on the Montreaux Convention?
Did England tell Ukraine not to accept a peace agreement?
Extremely succint and down to earth commentary. Good onya Times Radio!
Why can't the mine hunters be sent via the Danube?
Bridges… shallow water ??
static frontline last summer too lol
The Russian Black fleet is still in the Black Sea! It shifted across the Strait. It doesn't change its operational capacity.
russia black fleet is turning in to subs
@@masteryourkitchen-areyouga7237 Educate yourself before spouting off! Russia has a blue water fleet of 550 ships the two ships sunk and the four damaged is not a weakening of Russia's naval capability. Also half of the ships damaged were in dry dock under lengthy extensive repair when attacked. They weren't expected back in service for sometime!
Albeit the media campaign boasted that Russia's navy was destroyed! 🤣
I think it is critical that the US and Europe give a 5 year armament request for 3-4 million artillery shells a year. This is not just for Ukraine but the West is clearly running low on those stockpiles. Just putting the wheels in motion might be enough to give Russia pause that their battle is futile.
I fully agree
Where?, From whom ? Who is going to lend money for that ?
they can only proiduce 100
000s while russua can make 3 million i 1 year
Who pays for genius, which budget do we cut or how much more tax do we pay.
@@designerhomes9687 The West (excluding South Korea) will manufacture about 1 million 155mm shells in 2024, and about 250k 152 mm. In addition some other countries, including India ,are offering to produce (and sell) more of both calibres to NATO.
Russia has so far shown no evidence that it is manufacturing 3 million 152 mm shells a year, or even 1 million. It is currently dependent on North Korean imports.
Turkey playing both sides... what a joke
Europe also play.
Good interviewer, Would be nice to see her work with someone with a more realistic view of events. Can you really imagine a UK minehunter removing mines from around Crimea unmolested ?????
Why can't Africa grow its own grain?? It's relying on a far away country for it's food 🤔
Excellent interview! Extremely well-done! Comprehensive, informative, truthful.......what a great change! Slava Ukraini! America, push our "leaders" to approve necessary Ukrainian assistance, please!
trutddull.....seriously.total fake news and misinformation would be wright
Ukraine is one of the biggest weapons traders in the world ... I guess you sell weapons ? This is an advert on behalf of weapons manufacturers and dealers. Flogging a dead horse is the term.
Speaker Johnson is a disgrace and has to go. He is the obstructionist as there are votes among both parties to support another aid package to Ukraine. I was a teenager in the 80's when Russia was the big bugaboo. The 80's was the age of bunker building and the Red Threat. Now, our hand-me-down older generation weaponry is on the battlefield being used by Ukranians to hold the line....for 2 years now. Repeating for the cheap seats: Our Old Hand-Me-Down weaponry is holding the line against Putin's Russia in a conflict that is clearly critical for Putin's personal survival. Russia is too corrupt to effectively prosecute the war, from the embezzlement of their military commanders and waste and theft of resources...."they're not sending their best" to paraphrase one of our Ex-Presidents. Now is the time to Hit and Hit Hard. We shouldn't be holding back. Much of the money Congress allocates for the fight in Ukraine is actually used to build the next generation of weaponry here in the US, the weapons that they'll see for the first time if we have to go in with NATO. If Trump is not elected again, there is no doubt in my mind that a US-NATO response is coming if Russia starts "line-stepping" into NATO territories. We didn't maintain that investment for generations for nothing. If you are in the US, call your Republican Reps and tell them that Speaker Johnson needs to act and allow the vote or get the "H" out of the way. If he's not up to the job, he can resign to "spend more time with his family".
@@jonemery8324 Actually, if Russian commanders hasn't embezzled the salaries of their troops and funds for supplies and maintenance of weapons, then perhaps they'd have done the job by now. You have described the problem in your own way. The culture of the Russian Military is so notoriously corrupt that it looks so much better on paper than how it can really perform in real life. Russian military vehicles rolled out for the first time for the Special Military Operation, just to have their old stale tires blow out from lack of maintenance. The Rot comes from the Top. Russians are abandoning equipment because they can't repair it. No money, no parts, decades of brain drain of young talented people. That's what happens when you cannibalize yourself. We were all afraid that they were a professional serious operation. Imagine our surprise to find out they don't even take themselves seriously!
Sounds just the reason Biden said no to further funding asked by Zelenskyy ! Because it wasn’t being used wisely and there neeed to be more transparency. Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Given that certain members of NATO who were not meeting their financial commitments and that many countries not updating their defences we should be very worried indeed. Especially as we just found out Turkey sending aircraft and Irans latest involvement.@@rhino5100
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 Never Surrender,
Go fight for them then
America's proxy Ukraine started this conflict and Russia will finish it.
@@danielbailey5849…or maybe you can go fight for Russia? Oh, you are already keyboard fighting for them, I forgot 😅
The rules that Turkey applies, preventing warships entering the Black Sea, make Russian naval resources, finite. I wouldn't underestimate their importance.
A fascinating discussion thank you
I don't know the tonnage of these minesweepers or boats ...but the Rhine-Main-Danube Canal allows up to 2450tons of bulk cargo to travel. this means that these boats can enter the Rhine and then travel through this canal and exit in Costanza on the black sea. Or , if the Romanian were agreeable..these boats+minesweeper could be given to the them and then the Romanian can gift them to the Ukrainians
…..thanks for being so magnanimous with our naval assets . We’ll only have to replace them at a few £million per .
Those minesweepers are small. The waterways are more than big enough.
@@georgemorrison9280in order to make sure you don't have to build dozens. Two minesweepers instead of several dozens is a good trade of.
Rhine-Main-Danube Canal authorised vessel is 190 metres (620 ft) long and 11.45 metres (37.6 ft) wide. Sandwon class Minesweeper is Length 52.5 m (172 ft 3 in) Beam 10.9 m (35 ft 9 in) Draught 2.3 m (7 ft 7 in). In short it would fit easily.
Hungary will not let them pass! Another one of our fine allies!
It's probably time to give some thought to if Turkey is truly a NATO ally, they were granted membership and it can be taken away. Without NATO they could be a huge target and they will need to defend on their own without NATO, good luck with that! Sometimes there is addition by subtracation.
Can it be taken away? Seems like all members are damp squids to like 2 members. Same with UN with Russia etc etc.
US is the one targeting them.Its a fact that US is arming Kurdish militants that are carrying out terrorist activities inside Turkey.The Turks know very well who the enemy is.
Turkey is NATOs 2nd strongest army with the UK and NATOs eastern spear.......
The UK no longer has an army. No Air Force and no Navy. We are not a military power as we used to be. All gone. Sad but true. @@mrsam0496
What do you think kicking Turkey out of NATO would achieve? Turkey follows Turkey's interests whether in or out of NATO, picking a fight with Turkey would only strengthen Russia.
Some of these retired western generals should get back in the game and join the UAF
Turkey quickly forgets its earthquakes 😂😂😂😂
Yeah
Very quick .
They already returned to their bad behaviour.
They start again threatening Greece about the Aegean islands.
Experts everywhere creep out of the woodwork
Very interesting material and thank you. Sir, you have a reverberation that's very cheaply resolved with a couple of quilts or blankets hung behind and next to you. Makes a difference. Frequently these days we have a large discrepancy between the acoustic quality of the main presenters and the always changing experts coming from different spaces. 5-10 euros will do it! Thanks
NATO vs. Russia
Today Russia doesn’t have a chance.
If Russia is allowed to take Ukraine, then in 20 years, things will be a lot worse.
This is something we shouldn’t delay dealing with.
las drogas provocan alucinaciones, distorsiones de la realidad, cambios en la Matrix, y comentarios estupid…
Of course, the Taliban had no chance, even the Taliban, because they had the best air defense, enormous capabilities of the military-industrial complex and, of course, nuclear weapons capable of destroying England 1000 times over 🤡
If the US falls, or their support does Europe will be in for a rude awakening - Europes leaders have been atrocious for some time
Nato without USA doesn’t stand a chance, that’s correct
Do not underestimate the enemy my friend!
Great interview.
outstanding interview
Can’t the minehunters not be moved via the Danube and other rivers and canals through Romania and Germany into the Black Sea?
I do not understand the problem of the mine-sweepers? These vessels are pretty small. At least small enough to navigate the rhine en danube. Secondly, why isn't the UK sending mid size hoover crafts?
Nice to hear an interviewer give someone a chance to answer questions.
What NATO doesn't seem to understand is that should NATO start fighting russia AFTER a possible fall of Ukraine, it will also face experienced Ukrainian fighters who will be forced into the russian army. Much like the men of occupied Donbas are fighting on the side of russia.
Seems the media in the west really likes talking about the Ukrainian offensive while completely neglecting to cover how badly ruskies offensives have gone for over a year now.
Those Russian defensive lines seem to have stood up over the last year.
@@God_help_us Yeh... exactly where they never intended them to be.
Amazing how the Russian defensive lines have been _so_ effective, in complete evisceration of AFU troops, they end up automatically moving _forward_ and become 'offensives' by themselves.
@@livingtribunal4110 lol. Could you tell us where that happened?
@@God_help_us
When a country calls itself a super power and invades a much smaller country
with the goal of conquering it within days
it's not much to brag about for it to say close to two years later,
"Well at least the country we were supposed to conquer two years ago
hasn't made large advances against us for a while.
Thank goodness for the huge mine fields that protect our Imperialist forces
from having to fight against the enemy forces directly".
a conventional war between russia and Poland would end with Polish flags in Moscow in 3 weeks. a conventional War between Russia and all of Nato would look like 1991 Desert storm.
What are you basing that on poland has never been in war since 1940a
With entire polish army of 300 000 and entire 200 tanks?
Do you know that polish plans for defence against Russia is retreat behind Vistula and wait for Nato?
That's no secret and that's why Russia has nukes. So a conventional war is a moot proposition.
what are you saying? ukrainian army was the strongest army in EU at the beginning of 2021 before russia engaged. Poland would be somewhat easier than ukraine
@@breazfreind402 Russia's military capability has been significantly reduced.
excellent! thank you!
Excellent interview
It wasn't a secret Turkey will block mine-hunters delivery to Ukraine because of the convention. If responsible parties are a bit more clever, they're a simple way: STEP 1. UK send mine-hunters to Romania. STEP 2. Romania register it as a part of own Navy. STEP 3. Romania donate the mine-hunters to Ukraine. In this scenario Turkey CAN'T DO NOTHING!
are you fool ? any milittary ship mine -hunters cant passed the channel from turkiye not allowed also how you idea is cant work
Likely it was a test to see what Turkey would do… to try and force them to give up their Russia addiction. Turkey has a lot to lose if it loses access to Russian markets and if it loses Russian tourism. Other ships have previously gone overland… it’s a painful route though and a logistical nightmare
@@airfight10 You're NOT right. The convention doesn't allow passing for military ships (and cargoes) with destination for one of the countries participating in the war. Not any! Romania in this case is NOT participating in the war and Turkey wouldn't be able to block those mine-hunters.
@@saberint probably you're right. Turkey definitely is not sharing the same values as the rest of NATO. They will sell own mother for money. But I think that kind o test is a bit meaningless, because it's easy to predict what they will do. Anyway, there are many different ways to deliver those ships to Ukraine. Through Danube river, for example, since those are not so big ships.
@@tripspointcom7062 completely agree that it was a bit of a pointless exercise… but sometimes you still have to test. And yep, there are ways around and hopefully they will get them there soon. There is also another interesting aspect to see if Turkey would count the minesweepers as military or because they are primarily defensive ships and they would also help Turkey, Turkey might have allowed them through. Yes, Turkey need to get on with deciding what side of the fence they are on and take the pros and cons of that choice.
QUESTION. A small vessel such as a minesweeper can sail from the North sea to Bavaria via the river Rhine. A 150 km canal was opened in 1992 joining the Rhine to the Danube which flows to the Black sea , is it not possible to use this route to get the ships to Ukraine.? All knowledgeable answers would be welcome.
Bridges…
…and a very shallow depth…
Question: If Ukraine is so good at knocking out Russian logistics, why can't Russia do the same to Ukraine?
There is a quite braindead conservative faction in the west, especially in US which is trying to preserve "interests of US and it's allies" which inludes israel, arabic kingdoms etc and because of that they see Turkey as a threat. Turkish soft power is insanely higher than known by the western public, Turkish armed forces could freely operate in so many countries from Libya to Afghanistan or Somalia where western coalition struggle a lot or even had to run in quite terrible conditions. For example taliban actually asked Turkish forces to stay and control some critical infrastructure including international airports as they didn't have skilled personel to do so and Turkish forces aren't seen as "crusader invaders" by Afghan people but Turkey refused and withdrew from Afghanistan as well. No other country in entire western alliance has such a soft power in middle east and that's exactly why Turkey is a threat in the region shared with israelis and arab kings and princes! You can see it everywhere if you look closely, "humanist" western countries issuing embargoes on Turkey for "deterring democracy" while same western countries continue selling arms to arabic kingdoms. Arab spring miserably failed in all arabic countries expect Libya alone where Turkey intervened and saved Libyan people elected government while France, Egypt, saudis etc supporting warlord haftar, simply because they know a democratic government would be pro-Turkish for sure. They keep re-writing history and warming over "Armenian genocide" in last two decades just purely reducing Turkish soft power. In their eyes Turkey is already an enemy, against their interests in the region at least so they act accordingly. Even after regime changes in Turkey absolutely nothing will change, Turkey can't stay isolationist anymore because we experienced quite terrible damage from recent wars especially Syrian war even if we stayed out of it as long as possible. In future Turkey will intervene more and more regardless which party is ruling and that's exactly what they fear and trying to prevent...
@c.s.4273"Warming over Armenian genocide". What's wrong with telling the truth about the Turkish made genocide over 100 years ago that everyone knows well? On historical TV channels in my country these things are discussed in detail and no one blames contemporary Turkey for it. Do you really think that lies and denial will enhance Turkey's "soft power"?? Nope. It only harms and ridicules its image as a weak and pathetic country unable to face its own history. If you do not want to admit genocide in your history it just means that you still consider genocide as a legitimized means of "solving problems".
Adding the gradual deterioration of Ataturk's legacy , Turkey is still alienating by itself from the West confirming how foreign, unpredictable and basically hostile it is to the West with its odd Ottoman phantom pains.
Anyway, your whole post confirms it. The only strange thing is that you yourself seem not aware of it.
The single best way to avoid NATO having to go to war with Russia is to give Ukraine everything it needs to win. NATO's current strategy of bleeding Russia has been very effective. It simply needs to increase military aid to Ukraine and Russia can break this year. If it maintains 2023 levels of military aid, give it 1-2 years for Russia to break. Russia's military has proven that it cannot win on the battlefield. It's far too weak.
The fact is NATO has been to slow with deliveries at the beginning of this war. Had they been quicker the losses in Ukraine would not have been so lethal. Russia has sent missiles twice to Poland. Have they got involved no they have not. They've let Ukraine carry the burden.
Why have you contradicted yourself , within the space of 2 sentences ...?
this is an endless campaign of the west v anybody else
the only winners are arms manufacturers
there are a LOT of losers
@@nadiasawicki4108 This is all true. If NATO simply gave Ukraine everything it asked for, this war might well be over now. But that's not what happened. And more importantly for Russia, is Russia is currently experiencing the worst possible outcome. It's stuck in an attrition fight against a nation with unbreakable will. Russia has lost more than 6k tanks, 362k Russian KIA, over 11k apcs, coming up on 9k destroyed artillery systems, etc. This is the last year of the Russian war machine. The vaunted Soviet stockpile is being permanently retired.
At the current trajectory of the war, Ukraine will win but sustain higher losses than it would otherwise need to if the West just went all in. After the Russian military is strategically defeated in Ukraine, the Russian Federation will collapse in on itself and fracture into tiny nation states. Expect China to gobble up Manchuria as payback for the Century of Humiliation.
Это вам CNN сказали что Россия нечего не может сделать?😂
А почему тогда в России нет мобилизации а у Украины пропали солдаты? И теперь они вынуждены забирать остаток мужчин на войну
Agreed. The levels of defense spending russia has announced are unsustainable. That, coupled with bleak demographics and slow-strangle of sanctions implies a breaking-point over the medium-term. Russia may say it's playing a long-game, but it doesn't look like a game they can win, despite bravado and self-belief.
Turkey in Putin's pocket i wonder what he's promised Turkey😮
A name change! 😂
Clown🤡
Hydrocarbons 😆😆
everything that west doesnt give ?
Turkey is just using common sense, logic and reason for its own best interest, it's that saying when we're little, if that idiot jumps off a bridge are you gonna do it lol nope
sometimes I worry about the sanity of the news interviewer she is obviously taking the war to heart and it looks and shows on her face .
THANKS
Thank you Sir for your excellent report and thank you Kate for continuing coverage on the war in Ukraine. So just to make sure I have this correct. NATO only goes in if Ukraine loses? I thought NATO was a sort of protector and not a mop up.
NATO will never go in because Putin will go crazy with Nukes.
Yes the Russians sowed massive amounts of mines in the Ukrainian front lines esp. in the south even more than during the battle of Kursk 1943.
my question is how do they intend to advance through their own mine fields? ;)
@@sandercohen5543 well the Russians mine their fronts but leave a narrow area like roads unmined , if someone had to attack they would do it through a narrow area where the attacker could easilly be smashed with artillery if the Russians had to go on the offensive they would do it through the roads.
@@johnwalsh4857 ...and the same applies to the russians, no? ^^
@@sandercohen5543well brutality level)
@@Ruby_Ai wut? XD
I was not aware that Hamish can accurately predict the future one year in advance. Amazing. I want to know where he purchased his crystal ball, and also I want him to give me a sure-fire stock tip. Also which horses will win next week at the track. Also, the winning numbers on the lottery this weekend. Thanks.
I don't understand how these analysts talk about how Ukraine can attack without factoring in Russia's counteroffensive.
The same mistake was made during the Ukraine counteroffensive and they forgot the Russian component - the defense and counter-attack.
Turkey plays both sides.......they are trying to be Ref and VAR.
lol your supporting genocide in gaza
@@dilonkumar4960 Not sure what my comment here (about Turkey) has to do with Gaza or Genocide. If you are referring to a comment I've made somewhere else then it might be useful to put your comments where the context makes sense...........can I also just add that anybody who can use "lol" and "genocide" in the same sentence needs some serious help.
@@polyphonics557 an any one who can support Ukraine an not the Palestinians is a racist
Turkey knows white people are racist an only care about white peoples and supremacy over the world
Immensely informative and engaging interview
Thank you both 😎
Turkey wont let ANY military ship through the bay of bosberus because its national law. They blocked russians too!
So . . . Russia has ambitions to seize the Bosphorus? Is this 1850? What is Hamish smoking?
I wonder if the minehunters are small enough to pass the through the rivers and canals of Eurooe to access the Black Sea via the Danube?
Yes!
Some great analysis from this gentleman.
In regards to F16s, I think it is important to remember that some of these too are gonna get shot down. Just at it was with Leopards, Bradleys and Challengers. Just as they would go down in numbers if they fought the USSR in the 80s over Central Europe and Scandinavia.
Of course, they are not invincible. And they are 50 year old planes. And Russiais gonna use every F16 shot down for propaganda, completely ignoring the 400 russian planes knocked down by Ukraine
Turkey was never likely to admit minesweepers through the Bosporus straits. Why Britain thought they would I’d either incompetence or intransigence.
Agreed. There is no ambiguity on Turkey's part.
Or a strategy to make Turkey look like they are not being helpful. Which they aren't.