Fake SILVER from a fellow coin dealer!?

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  • čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
  • In today’s video, I discuss how I ended up with a fake 1oz silver Canadian Maple Leaf in a lot of coins purchased from a fellow coin dealer!
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Komentáře • 87

  • @danielmarler8774
    @danielmarler8774 Před 5 měsíci +19

    Silver maples have a sheen that is unmatched. Your side-by-side comparison really showed that

  • @beckyjo8745
    @beckyjo8745 Před 5 měsíci +9

    Appreciate you sharing this. Side by side you can definitely see the difference.

  • @rocksolid6494
    @rocksolid6494 Před 5 měsíci +13

    I would take that fake coin out of the general population. It needs to go to solitary confinement!

  • @darrensoldan5972
    @darrensoldan5972 Před 5 měsíci

    Quality content indeed. Thank you for sharing Josh.

  • @BlueWaterSTAX
    @BlueWaterSTAX Před 5 měsíci +5

    Thanks for sharing Josh. That Maple looked pretty legit. I got two fake 1986 Liberty dollars from my LCS. I noticed the next day. And boy did they look terrible compared to an original. Luckily she replaced them for me. She felt stupid and ate the loss.

  • @ddprepper5227
    @ddprepper5227 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Excellent report 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💯

  • @robertclark9
    @robertclark9 Před 5 měsíci +1

    It’s very rare that I see a fake anything come from a dealer. Their antennas are usually up spotting fakes. I supposed one could slip through. But it’s a rare exception.

  • @lindanelson8400
    @lindanelson8400 Před 5 měsíci

    Very good video. The fake looked like the queen's portrait was wider than the genuine coin. The dead giveaway for me was when you did the side by side, the radial lines on the genuine coin are so stunning, there's no doubt about its authenticity.

  • @jodymessmer1264
    @jodymessmer1264 Před 5 měsíci

    Good info, Josh!

  • @bowlmeoverva
    @bowlmeoverva Před 5 měsíci +2

    Did the fake Maple pass the poor man's sigma test - Rare earth magnet test?

  • @wi.dave3812
    @wi.dave3812 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the education 😀🇺🇸

  • @Malice_Lonewolf
    @Malice_Lonewolf Před 5 měsíci

    wish my local shop had a bucket like that. I really want to get some varied bullion keeps things interesting. Shops here also never seem to have maples those radial lines make it my favorite along with the Britannia ones. Good anti counterfit protection too. Curious did you check the small leaf to see if it had smaller one inside with the year on it?

  • @redcatsassociate
    @redcatsassociate Před 5 měsíci +4

    The fact the the word "Dollar" is spelled with two D's is a dead giveaway. 😂

  • @Rybczynski1
    @Rybczynski1 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Queen head looks bigger on fake

    • @SirAlford
      @SirAlford Před 5 měsíci +1

      I was thinking the same thing!

  • @TheQuickSilver101
    @TheQuickSilver101 Před 5 měsíci +1

    It stinks that you got a fake coin in the deal but it is for sure educational. I bought a fake silver bar on eBay years ago. I decided that was going to be the only one so I bought a sigma and a scale and now I test everything, even stuff from dealers because none of us are perfect. Thanks!

  • @bobegan2121
    @bobegan2121 Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks Josh. Hope the spot price acts just like last week for that flash sale.

  • @beckyjo8745
    @beckyjo8745 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I need those old kookaburra's !!

  • @silvershirebjj
    @silvershirebjj Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @Wookietown
    @Wookietown Před 5 měsíci +1

    So what should a customer's expectation be on the coin dealer's due diligence when they are selling secondary market gold and silver? The average person does not own a Sigma. It would absolutely affect my trust if a coin shop "misses" fakes when selling secondary market products.

  • @coloreye7963
    @coloreye7963 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I absolutely cannot stand that we have to deal with counterfeits and hate that they are getting to be so good and readily available. I’m on the market for three 1916d mercury dimes to complete my kids and grandkid dime sets and come across a really good counterfeit the other day.

  • @johnjacobs1625
    @johnjacobs1625 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Most Wholesale Sellers Don't have the TimE to Check every SILVER, for fakes! THEY SPOT CHECK!! JJ

  • @stevee8318
    @stevee8318 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I am curious as to whether your fake is the same thickness as a real one and whether it attracts a magnet. Even really good sovereign silver fakes I have seen don't get all three of diameter, thickness, and weight correct. Typically the good fakes are plated copper - if they are the correct size they will weigh too light, if they are the correct weight they will be too thick. The counterfeiters typically get the diameter correct because that's the most obvious thing at a glance, except sometimes with ASEs.

  • @wadestclair249
    @wadestclair249 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Ping test. Works great.

  • @lobbyrobby
    @lobbyrobby Před 5 měsíci

    I guessed it was that one. I'll stop by tomorrow to pick up the prize I won. Thank you

  • @hdcsp3
    @hdcsp3 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Brown bear Brown bear....what do you see
    I see a fake silver round sitting in my pile

    • @user-lr3qg1lf1u
      @user-lr3qg1lf1u Před 5 měsíci +2

      I think it's a Grizzly bear. It's what we have here.😅

  • @Joshkayla8487
    @Joshkayla8487 Před 5 měsíci

    I picked it out right away when I saw it in this video noticed the radial lines. They seemed odd.

  • @Whaticansayaboutit
    @Whaticansayaboutit Před 5 měsíci +3

    I confused as to why you did not ask the seller for a credit. If I sold that fake coin to you I would be embarrassed and thank you for finding it. In the precious metal world, confidence is essential.

    • @minotcoinbullion
      @minotcoinbullion  Před 5 měsíci +2

      I didn’t accept a refund (the dealer did offer) on that 1oz because the overall value of the silver lot was still good. I instead asked him to keep me in mind if he has similar lots of silver for sale. I’d rather be near the top of that list than get $25 back…..

  • @brianfreland9065
    @brianfreland9065 Před 5 měsíci +1

    i got a fake bar from a well known local shop near me thats been doing business for over 20 years. i assume he didnt check it when he bought it but i didnt say anything about it, i just traded it back in for a coin to avoid him calling me a liar or say i was screwing him over. i havent purchased anything from him since then. waiting to get a tester first after that lesson. it was only 22 bucks and i still got a buffallo coin out of it so no real loss. be careful out there

  • @walterbriggs7471
    @walterbriggs7471 Před 4 měsíci

    That's why I have each item on a tester.

  • @jimpanse1638
    @jimpanse1638 Před 5 měsíci

    I saw that immediately as well that looks so wrong 😂

  • @mrmainevent1872
    @mrmainevent1872 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Fingertip ping a silver coin with another silver coin. It works better than with an ink pen in my opinion.

  • @tmow297
    @tmow297 Před 5 měsíci

    My local coin shop had fake Britannia in it's pile of one ounce bars/rounds. Spotted it right away.
    He was clearly embarrassed as to how he missed it.
    All I can say is if you stack, and have a variety, and handle it with regularity over the years, one can get skilled in the visuals quickly. Josh's demonstration of the ping test further concludes what was seen with the naked eye.

  • @b_doc6142
    @b_doc6142 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Website and eBay page would be great!

  • @GatorGoldChannel
    @GatorGoldChannel Před 5 měsíci +2

    I saw the fake immediately, the radial lines are a clear giveaway

  • @RedneckCoinz
    @RedneckCoinz Před 5 měsíci

    So josh how many
    of those cook island and pandas you have and a price or some where we talk else where??

  • @benreierson2607
    @benreierson2607 Před 5 měsíci

    What percentage of your inventory do you test? 2/3 of my stack has been purchased from you.

  • @user-lr3qg1lf1u
    @user-lr3qg1lf1u Před 5 měsíci +1

    I own some. Mine have the lines. Also some from canadian mint.

  • @406Stacker
    @406Stacker Před 5 měsíci +1

    I got some fake ASE a few months back. Something felt off, they weighted correct, looked correct, but Something felt off to me. My LCS verified they were fake. Fortunately, the guy gave me my $ back. Im very careful now buying silver.

  • @14Unow
    @14Unow Před 5 měsíci +1

    Did the coin pass a magnetic test?

  • @janecormie5410
    @janecormie5410 Před 5 měsíci

    I totally could see. Did you get reimbursed?.. just curious

  • @tmow297
    @tmow297 Před 5 měsíci

    The queen's portrait was a dead giveaway....it lacked definition.
    Yes...the bold lettering and thick radial lines screamed fake

  • @G.G.T.
    @G.G.T. Před 5 měsíci +2

    on the video the fake actually sounded better lol....

  • @Imakebootysclap
    @Imakebootysclap Před 5 měsíci

    dealer probably got cheated too and didnt even know they passed it on.

  • @coretmanus4688
    @coretmanus4688 Před 5 měsíci

    29sec. Into the vide I can see the maple in the center of screen doesn’t look right.

  • @smitty1975au
    @smitty1975au Před 2 měsíci

    ebay has some fake maple leaf coins - showing face value of 50 dollars instead of 5

  • @silverfoxfinance
    @silverfoxfinance Před 5 měsíci +2

    When you say compensation, did you get your money back?

    • @minotcoinbullion
      @minotcoinbullion  Před 5 měsíci

      No, I instead requested to be given the opportunity to purchase similar lots from that dealer in the future. That’s is worth more to me than the $25 I’d get back…..

  • @thomashester739
    @thomashester739 Před 5 měsíci +2

    The queens face is off. The nose is different

  • @purplehaze1952
    @purplehaze1952 Před 11 dny

    I was told that there are 11 radial lines between the two I I's after ELIZABETH. I have gotten a fake like the one in your video. There are only 5 lines on mine.

  • @b.j.stambaugh9213
    @b.j.stambaugh9213 Před 5 měsíci +1

    My first (5) 2021 ASE's on eBay...I turned them over to the Sheriff's office ... eBay did nothing about it...haven't since...smiles

  • @wornslick
    @wornslick Před 5 měsíci

    How much are they Josh?

  • @WEthePEOPLE_888
    @WEthePEOPLE_888 Před 5 měsíci

    Did it pass magnet test?

  • @steveedington5231
    @steveedington5231 Před 5 měsíci

    that maple leaf from a distance looks close someone not knowing would be fooled thank you

  • @TheLeadShed
    @TheLeadShed Před 5 měsíci +1

    What about shipping to Canada

  • @JUST1N888
    @JUST1N888 Před 5 měsíci

    How many kookaburras did you get and how much do you want for them and do you ship 😊

    • @minotcoinbullion
      @minotcoinbullion  Před 5 měsíci

      Kooks from video are all sold. I do ship. I have 2013, 2023, 2024 kooks still in stock

  • @MysTicBiGz
    @MysTicBiGz Před 5 měsíci +5

    I wouldn't do business with that dealer ever

    • @Malice_Lonewolf
      @Malice_Lonewolf Před 5 měsíci

      Fakes can happen especially in a big lot like that. I don't know a single shop that tests every coin they have before they sell it.

  • @henryneithofer1294
    @henryneithofer1294 Před 5 měsíci

    Mist last week's flash sale,😢

  • @808bAler
    @808bAler Před 5 měsíci

    Today, which happens to be a couple hours after video launch on Monday, is the 19th. Am I watching this from another dimension where February 19th is actually on Thursday? In my universe, Thursday will be Feb 22nd. Greetings, Strange People, your fake maple Queen has a HUGE head!

    • @minotcoinbullion
      @minotcoinbullion  Před 5 měsíci

      Good catch. Made a typo. Flash sale is February 22, 2024! :)

  • @wornslick
    @wornslick Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great video Josh! I noticed you have some Kookaburras. I collect them so can I send you a list of needed dates tomorrow? Thanks!

    • @FathomFrequency
      @FathomFrequency Před 5 měsíci +2

      Love Kookaburras myself! 2022 was a great design

    • @minotcoinbullion
      @minotcoinbullion  Před 5 měsíci

      Kooks from this video are all sold. I do, however, have 2013, 2023, 2024 in stock

    • @wornslick
      @wornslick Před 5 měsíci

      @@minotcoinbullion Hi Josh, how much are they? I think I have the 2013 but not home to check. I also would like a 2oz Bakken poured round. Thanks for all the great videos!

    • @minotcoinbullion
      @minotcoinbullion  Před 5 měsíci

      @@wornslick the 2013 kooks are on sale $30. ‘23 and ‘24 kooks are $33. The 2oz Bakken bar is $58. The only Bakken rounds in stock are 5oz.

  • @jdo2574
    @jdo2574 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Radial lines do show up clear in the video. Dead giveaway

  • @FelixTheCat69
    @FelixTheCat69 Před 4 měsíci

    I would say the real one looked alive and the fake was lifeless. The giveaway was when you flipped over the fake it bumped the other and sounded terrible. You did a mini ping test.

  • @davidfaria6194
    @davidfaria6194 Před 5 měsíci

    It's obvious to me, it looks so different.

  • @SIXPACK110
    @SIXPACK110 Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for the info, Mine is legit

  • @arte9855
    @arte9855 Před 5 měsíci

    Looks like you kept it at the price per ounce to use as an educational tool.
    The wholesale dealer should have refunded you the cost.

  • @SubtleReed
    @SubtleReed Před 5 měsíci

    Very very obvious

  • @gregorygreene1940
    @gregorygreene1940 Před 5 měsíci

    Chinese bullion fakes, numismatic fakes, you've even got slabs being faked which people typically trust. I stay away from physical coins. Not worth the hassle anymore. I'd rather invest in a precious metal ETF.

  • @GeorgeRodrigues-xb6bo
    @GeorgeRodrigues-xb6bo Před 5 měsíci

    I need those old kookaburra's !!