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- čas přidán 14. 10. 2021
- Passengers on the Moscow metro can now pay for their commute using facial recognition technology. The system is called "Face Pay" - and connects passengers' biometric data with their credit cards.
It's been rolled out across all 241 stations in the Russian capital - but privacy activists are sounding the alarm.
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“Takes 3x times less”
0:32: meanwhile Biljakov stands there awkwardly like it a passport check.
you don't need to look for a ticket in your bag - this is also the time
@@arthursaar305 why wouldn't you look for your ticket before you get there though ?
he is in a mask, without a mask it works faster
@@alexl7559 and faster yet when naked
I feel like this is bigger then just paying quicker
@@bobbybass3586 hahaha! Did you close the camera peephole on your laptop?
@uoɔɐq ǝʞɐɔuɐd Killer robots with face recognition A.I.
@@user-si2dr1pn3p Do you know my IP address?)
Actually the RT video says that it's not quicker than paying with a card. It's easier because you can forget your card at home or lose it on the street, or have your bag stolen, or have to look for the card in all your pockets. With facial paying you won't have these problems.
@@MargaritaMagdalena RT is funded by the Russian government. I can't trust it.
This is not good. Not in Russia, not in USA, and not in Germany. You trade your privacy & freedom for convenience.
So have you stopped using your phone, your credit cards, send or receive emails, because any of these can be used to locate you.
This "convenience" is so thinly weiled introduction of mass surveilance.
I don't think much has changed with this new system tbh. Our movements are already registered with CCTV, personal public transit cards, bank cards, cellphones etc.
Also, what privacy and freedom did we have before modern technology? If you lived in the Middle Ages or in the 1920s, do you think you could travel everywhere you wanted anonymously?
I guess you're so naive... trading convenience for privacy has happened a long time ago. With Google map and a great hacker, someone can know where you live and what you're buying
"The Moscow Metro assures users of the facial recognition system that their personal and biometric data won't be passed on to third parties" - Riggghhhhtttt and who actually believes that.
you think Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Twitter, doesn't pass info to the Government?
lol.
@@polysporin8332 yeah they've actually found to not have their data shared with the government. Even causes a problem for governments cause they can get the name and such if a criminal but can't get proof cause companies don't comply.
@@polysporin8332 - Of course they probably do to various degrees. I actually hate Facebook, don't have one, my Twitter is pretty empty and useless and Apple I don't trust either.
In my democratic and free country, Portugal, after a population census was conducted this year, the data of more than 60% of our citizens ended up in an American Company Data Bank, which had provided technical assistance to the aforementioned census. Oops! A glitch? Is my name there? I don't know!
It'd be safe in USA since there is no Third Party there
Freedom is an illusion
No, it is a state of mind. Only the fear can stop people from being free. Free people cannot be enslaved, they've got no fear, nor hate.
In that regard your whole existence is an illusion. Freedom can easily be prove to exist both physically and oh psychologically but proving your existence is much more difficult then the illusion itself.
Jokes on them I have none, as they already took it by force decades ago. The majority of people don't realize freedoms gone for us all. This is what happens when you let them do anything they want to just 1 person. For they can now do anything they want to ALL of us.
Why do you think so?
You still think the future is not going to be dystopian?
Indirectly envoking George Orwell
Russia has been dystopian for centuries but I’m afraid this may spread to the west
It was super obvious to me like 20 years ago, when Europe decided to back US at all cost, Yugoslavia was just a test trial, now it's super obvious what's gonna happen
The US "overlords" owe china billions if not trillions of $$, and instead of paying them back they invested the vast majority of it into weaponry and it's a "simple" operation of "kill the owner" whose rent you owe
The PROBLEM is when you face that reality, you realise there's no middle ground, or a mid-term deal, it's gonna be an all-out-onslaught.. Sure, noone's gonna "risk it" to escalate too far too fast, but it's gonna be an onslaught
Sorry but I refuse to put those "rose glasses" on my eyes towards the West, they're really the bad guys in this overall
Once capitalists have AI we will all be enslaved.
But we could find all criminals everywhere! No more crime!
We should add automatic stun guns to the system that in case the KI sees anomalies in the behavior of a subject then it can intervene beforehand.
Everyone will be safe and happy!
Now Tom Cruise really will have to swap his eyes.
He might have to swap his face too by plastic surgery.
Minority report coming to life.
@@Jace888 Yep. But in that movie, there is something else I don't understand. They claim that they can see the future crime which will happen but then the cops go and stop the crime. But they should have seen in the future that the cops stopping the crime. It's a paradox. Doesn't make sense.
This is our own fault for depending too much on technology for convenience.
@You Tube That is unless the government is the criminal
@You Tube If it was only that simple, with the introduction of such technology governments will track such dissent. This is just one of the reasons why such technology and data in the wrong hands can be so dangerous.
damn, the sci-fi dystopia is getting closer by the day. feels like we are blindly walking into it, like sheep..
What if the system makes a mistake and bills you for somebody else?
You will be out of pocket for the cost of a ride.
Hope you don't have a twin?
This is your only concern?
Not if, when. And then the hackers will come.
Such mistakes already exist without facial recognition. Plus there's identity theft.
it takes 10 seconds to buy a metro ticket for up to 6 months and 2 seconds to swipe it ...
There's no advantage, what so ever, in "Paying Quicker".
It stops being cool until you are banned from the system.
You mean the subway system?
@@MargaritaMagdalena He means the system designed to track and identify people, just like the stability maintenance command in China
SCARY, Big brother watching everywhere you go. Hackers can still hack the system.
That's the plot of watch dogs.
Russia has a great deal of talented hackers. I wouldn't be surprised if one of them decided to take matters into their own hands.
Oh common, they don’t need hackers to make it a problem. Just try going to a protest by subway now
Ok primitive loser
@@westonw8285 they don’t care
One month ago I transited UK airway, they were already using automatic face recognition at customs so basically a program checked my face, my passport and let me in.
So I'm sure they have my face ID and can locate me through their cams network in case they suspect me for terrorist attacks or other reasons.
next to China the UK has the second largest CCTV camera network in the world.
If people think they don't have face recognition, then they are beyond clueless.
The same exists in the USA they just don't tell you. So you can have your "privacy".
They use this system at custom everywhere for years, including Russia
@@polysporin8332 That might be so, but CCTVs are third party owned, the government does not have access to it and crime is left to the police. We do not want the government being the police itself.
@@MrPurge11 you are very naive. National security issues are not subject to parliamentary oversight. This is true for all nations. Even your 1st world "free" western "democratic" countries.
@@polysporin8332 Its foolish to say each countries national security objectives are the same. It is like saying a dictatorship is the same as a democracy....apple and oranges. Let the people decide.
What if the selfie cameras on our smartphones are filming us all day long?
That's already a given!
@@ByCrom No. Filming us even when we don't use them.
It's not if. They just do lol.
I flew from Chicago to Munich a few weeks back, United Airlines didn’t need your passport, just the boarding pass. The facial recognition cameras did the rest.
Dont be worried about hackers. The one's who have implemented facial recognition will harm you much more.
How can someone harm you with this?
@@MargaritaMagdalena by controlling every aspect of your life.
@@flamesofjihad4069 Elaborate please?
@@flamesofjihad4069 If I pay in the metro with facial recognition, can someone now control where I live, what work I do, who I marry, whether I have children, what food I eat, what music I listen to, when I go to sleep and get up, where I go on holiday?
that is not at all like Chinese Social Credit System... and total tracking. And in russia... it is certainly not "third parties" which you need to worry about when it comes to your security.
Yeah but how hard is it for the Russian government to request the data and track people they dont trust? Looks fishy to me.
@@MrPurge11 That is the point, they saying "safe from thirds parties"... very little help when goverment itself if the one thing to be afraid.
This shows how technology could be dangerous. On one day it protect the street, on the other if the goverment takes advantage of it, the technology turns against the people it meant to protect.
@@lp9280 Like US government says to their "allies". When it say it will cut tie on intelligence cooperation, it means terrorists are given order targeting you.
@@alexlo7708 No, it's like China's stability maintenance command, which is already in practice against its own people especially minorities.
@@MrPurge11 You mean US spy on its citizen to maintain its command like Snowden uncover?
this is just another step towards George Orwell's 1984
George Orwell is right, Big brother is watching you....soon they will have spy cameras in people's TV in Russia
Literally 1984
You've clearly never read 1984...
Just because technology is possible doesn’t mean it should be used. What’s wrong with humanity are they all stark mad now?
How do you decide which technology should be used and which not?
@@MargaritaMagdalena Same question goes for you.
@@MrPurge11 Why?
if it happened in the USA, it would be assessed as a great technological achievement.
but as soon as the cold war continues - all this is presented as a restriction of human rights and freedoms in Russia ))))
We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more - we had no awareness of the real situation. ”
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
China would love to get their hands on this technology.
@@nuanced8225 nono this is how they are installing China's social credit system in the rest of the world, first as a convenience then just add the rules to gamify your life.
@@nuanced8225 China already has it before Russia. And it help saving so many Chinese people lives. After this facail recognition has been installed , the CIA coordinated Uyghur attack were disappear.
@@alexlo7708 Get lost CCP bot, we s
dont want your mass surveillance here
@@MrPurge11 It's not my business on yr community. I told you on your short on China when you mouth to them.
*creepy*
Good way for the secret police to track your movements!
That's the main reason they made for before election 2024 to choose POOtin until 2036 or maybe for a lifetime. They're preparing against future protest to recognise crackdown people.
Its a brave new world in real time. Not sure why this point is lost on so many sheep.
With all this technology they could even frame you and say you went to a protest against the government.
The secret police aren't so secret...
The police (secret or otherwise) could track your movements long before this.
"....won't be passed on to third parties.." Didn't fakebook say the same thing?
Russia is the 3rd party 😂
This is really the point at which people need to start pushing back. It's already gone too far.
I've coined a new term for this obsessive compulsive need for governments to monitor, know and control everything using technology - technological extremism.
lame
Russia is authoritarian??? Have you not realised this??? Russians have been trying to push back but their freedoms keep going away.
@@TeddyKrimsony did you coin a more appropriate term? Don't criticize someone else's suggestion without putting your own suggestion on public display for criticism. It makes you look like a coward.
Look up stability maintenance command which is used in China. Every control of your life to the point they want to predict what you are going to do. Its not even living anymore.
Perfect way to track your every move
All it tracks is at what station you get into and out of the subway.
Doesn’t seem too fast when watching the doc , a quick swap more convenient
What a great time to be a dictator!
Surveillance in the name of convenience
People have always been under surveillance. It's called society.
@@MargaritaMagdalena No it isnt, its called mass surveillance, you are trying too hard to sell, like you have an agenda.
@@MrPurge11 Yes it is. Living in a society means being watched and known. If you were a peasant in the Middle Ages you couldn't even leave your village without permission from your lord, and shared one space with your entire family. You're just having your rebellious adolescent phase.
Wait I need to load more money onto my face before we leave
It's a sneaky normalization of mass surveilance extention. "Oh, look it's for convenience, and it's voluntary". But now there is a camera above every entrance and it's gonna run facial recognition regardless of your consent, and they plan to extend it to other places.
And it sucks for the purpose of paying for the ticket from the technical point of view anyway. What if it mistake one person for another. It's not a digital signature, it's probabilistic at best.
It's a surveillance system, that's what it is.
social networks have been following you for a long time, hundreds of thousands of cameras and your smartphone! Paying with your face turns your photo into a cloud of numbers and the error is one in a million.
It will always to passed to 3rd parties
The facial recognition is nothing new but it got implemented at the right time and that's why it's like a new thing. And this news is old. Japan already came out with Face Express for their train and other payment systems
Except Japan's government is not authoritarian like Russia and China who do not trust their own people and do not want to relinquish power.
@@MrPurge11 so true
Didn't expect that form Russia.
Basically most governments accross the world are more interested in the personal details of individuals than governing the country & doing their given job to the fullest...! 😂
Not likely , this is private company job. But for the US its "yes". Snowden confirms it.
WAR IS PEACE.
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
3 times faster? In the video I see it takes forever. Hoolyyyy just take your card an tap. 😄🤦♂️
Maybe its not to do with getting on the train faster, more like to just track you.
Yeah lol, I was thinking the same thing, people who simply tapped the card went through instantly, maybe because they were a mask it took longer for the FR system to work
Soon coming to your country...
May God hears you
@@anotheranon3118 probably not in EU...???Precisely in the EU!!!
several countries in the EU spy on your social media and if you post "hate" speech then you will be prosecuted
@@TeddyKrimsony Maybe so, but it stops and facial recognition. It is paranoia for the Russian government who do not trust their own people.
The same people who complain about privacy already share their entire lives on social media, these things need to come to the UK, I forgot my passes often when I am high
The issue is how many parts of russia a terribly poor or even parts of moskau the russian government doesnt want you to see, and yet they put money into having one of the first facial payments in the world
But you can make your profile “private” and no one is forcing you to have social media … what a bad argument … tons of people don’t have Instagram you need to get offline and go out in the real world sometime.
@@dominickjvlogs No one is forcing you to sign the face recognition pass... Instagram is not the only social media collecting data... what a bad argument...
@@stanmarsh820 But implementing facial recognition on transport is a step towards total access control of personal data. It is going too far and government can track your movements and spy on you. Paranoid Russian government does not trust their own citizens.
Russia learnt a lot from china huh
Any new tech for the world, an old tech for China 😂😂😂
yeah this is old news in China. China has the most advanced biometric identification systems in the world.
@@polysporin8332 Good job praising the system. 100 social credit points for you!
What about if you are a twin, does it work? I got mistaken so many times for somebody else and I don't even have a twin.
depending on the accuracy of biometric system. No one has the same walking gait. Even twins.
Face recognition and gait analysis will be the norm.
Good. Now Putin knows where everyone using the subways is lmao
You don't have to use this system, and our movements were already recorded before this. Here in the Netherlands, many people use a personal public transit card, so their travels by train, bus, metro and tram are all recorded too.
You can also be tracked by your cellphone, and by your payments with your bank card. I don't think much has changed with this facial recognition system tbh.
Nothing like making automated biometric scanning and logging mandatory for even the most essential means of transportation.
It's not mandatory.
@@MargaritaMagdalena yet...
Here in Germany we've gone through a similar process with the road charge system (Toll Collect) - from "technically not possible and only used for truck traffic" to a strong push towards forensic use and generalized tracking and profiling within only a couple of years.
"Jetzt doch: Fahndung mit Maut-Daten" (2009)
well, what's the difference between having in metro or on airports? many airports, such as UK have already placed facial recognition system placed...
Data Is gonna be the next currency
No thanks, I don't use phone that use finger print or facial technically. There's no way I'm going give the government my facial or eye biometrics.
There's no way this system works reliably and quickly enough.
I bet that the Russian government is willing to lose money on it as long as they can get yet more control over people.
Работает быстро в час пик и распознает даже в маске.
Revelation 13. No one will be able to buy or sell with out the Mark of the Beast. It will be on the forehead or right hand.
Blah Blah yada.x Jesus been dead for 2000+ years you should move on mate.
Lol fairy tales.
Amen 🙏
It’s coming
Thank you. That statement / reminder should be enough for everyone take pause and reflect given our current conditions. The gate to destruction is wide, the path of salvation is narrow and single file.
WhY are we all as a society always need things QUICKER.. because quick isnt even good enough anymore. Can you see how dummer we all becoming. ?
The bible warned about what will happend in the end. Now we are here. This is the first step to the mark of the beast.
Reminds me of people going "off-grid" , then buy a dozen go pros recording themselves, upload to youtube every other day to tell the world how fabulous it is living off grid..
How do they prevent it from making mistakes? If I wear a mask of someone else's face will it know the difference?
Surveillance is everywhere in the future
Surveillance has always existed. It's called society.
1984 is becoming realer by the minute. China already has it in place.
I laughed at this news. Most facial recognition recognize me as my cousin.
With so many cameras and online databases I don't think they need a separate face recognition system to identify someone. I firmly believe that any moderately developed country has enough resources to track anyone now. If someone wants privacy he/she must not live in any city and must not carry any electric device. It's a sad truth.
Also, any mistake here may lead to charging from a different persons account. Widespread rollout will surely be a disaster.
I have no idea what system they had before but it actually seems very slow compared to a simple London Oyster card system. Likely just a way of tracking dissidents, journalists and malcontents.
Without using this “brand new” face recognition system, it takes less than 4 seconds
"Welcome! Welcome to city seventeen!"
What if you’re not from Russia and are a tourist?
use cash or your credit card. what's the problem?
Who would want to visit Russia, so they can track and spy on you?
@@MrPurge11 did you write it using Iphone?
@@B1sher No
@@MrPurge11 Don't worry. Uncle Sam already knows everything about you
Apparently it's a pretty long pause to get your face checked if you need two takes wich you get to cut together fluently
Maybe I can use metro for free due to my unknown twin🤣🤣🤣
Instead of wasting money on implementing the technology people could ride for “free”. (It still gets paid from the taxes most of the riders pay.)
“Street cars”… 🤦🏻♂️ It’s called “tram”, we’re not in America.
Sooner or later, all countries with the capability to do it will use this technology. So there is no point in criticizing Russia or other countries that are currently using this tech. For instance, Apple is collecting facial biometric data for the past several years and people did not stop using their phones.
People who buy an over priced phone from a fruit company aren't going to be the smartest thinkers now are they
That is just for Apple, not for government. People would scream if Apple hand over data to the government. Having bio-metrics for transport is a mugs game, who wants to be tracked?
@@MrPurge11 Do you really believe that
@@solidsouls3213 Well you go use it then, see what happens when you say something that frightens the Russian government, they will track you to your home and god knows what will happen.
we should pay for everything like that
Moscow Metro launches face recognition
Twins exist be like ...
the personal data here in Moscow is completely NOT safe.
I dunno.. Those people in the video with cards looked to pass through more quickly than the individuals who had to stop and wait to be let in.
Social credit system on the way
"... WON'T be passed on to third parties". See... it'll be fine. Everything will be fine.
Is there an alternative, or compulsory?
Tom Nook it's optional
For now
but ... are you getting the price for a ticket before you go in? You move past the camera and it has your face before you can notice it's 100$ to go two streets further.
The concerns are unwaranted since a subscription to the metro already has your name and address on the card. The worst thing that could happen is that you can't use your sister's card anymore.
Think about it, people wear facial masks, plus their hair style changes, their facial features too can change due to bloating, aging etc. What it means, and this has been prophesied by sages, is that a laser imprinted bar-code/qr code is imprinted on people's foreheads at the deepest skin layer when they use this biometric data collecting technology. It is this bar-code that the system like Face Pay recognizes. Photo is just a cover up. You become no different than a can of condensed milk or a bag of potato chips that be scanned by a machine. Don't do that, it is a sinful act.
"The data is stored in a protected system and also won't be passed on to 3rd parties." Haven't heard either one of those before lol
Now you think about it Minority Report was a Very Good Movie ...
Weird title. Face pay sounds like an app that you pay the metro to find someone. Like license plate pay.
Be scared of Facebook not camera.
when phones are introduced, these kind of people also said that the government is listening and highly opposed this kind of improvements
Ooooffff.. that is nasty....!
I see the hands of China in this tech.
Well China is the friend of Russia, so I guess they copy each other to control the population like sheep.
Oh dear. This is not good no matter how people try to talk it up. ‘Data stored in a protected system, so it is safe’ 🤣😅
Your data is totally safe!!! LOL!!!
At this point what’s to stop anyone from government to hackers etc from stealing our privacy using our existing tech…Big brother will always be watching wether we know it or not we may as well support technology that makes human life less complicated than it already is.
very much scary
UPI is best
Activists: State sponsored surveillance is bad!
Also Activists: Citizens can record anything and everything and share it on their phone with impunity.
Also Activists: Let me unlock my phone with my face! Because a large corporation is less scary than the government!
Also Activists: The world is a scary place. Let me install a hundred cameras on my own property.
Also Activists: Why is the polie so slow in finding the perpetrators who attacked us? It was in broad daylight on a public street in sight of a camera that would have been there if we didn't rally for it to be dismantled.
Chinese style point system too?
Back in the bad old days of the Soviet Union, countries with most intensive secret police policies, had the highest rate of suicide.
Lithuania, was #1 for years. East Germany was too!
Whats so different to the west? You think they dont have your data already? say, what do you think about fingerprint to open your smartphone? and dont get me started with facebook, google (who demand you to put your REAL phone number) and SIRI.
The Beast System, stop this
wait. why do you need your face to be recognized? just to get on the train?
Because of the economic crisis and the rate of unemployment, now is the best time to invest and make money 💯
You can say that again
Cry`pto is the new gold
Stocks are good but Crypto is better
I wanted to trade crypto but got confused by the fluctuations in price
It won't bother you if you trade with a professional like Mrs Olivia Walters
Bs it will be passed on the financial info will be past on to companys to sell a product to you, biometrics will be passed on to every company to use to pay and identify, unless they use their own system.
Hmm ......control of people's movements on Next Level.
Im surprised they're at least asking people to sign up and give consent to use the information when they don't ask consent to take it in the first place.
You don't have to use this system. You can keep using your card.
Protected system?😅
where did they get there biometrics from, the phones
Did you even watch the report? You send in a picture of your face when you register for the service
@@MrEddie284 conditioning, when its mass rolled out do you think they will tell everyone to send a photo, this is not just for the train, it will be to use a shop a supermarket a bus anything you go to do will use this technology before 2030, its the begining of cashless and digital nations, this is just conditioning when you have a few percent then a bit more and a bit more untill you have the majority then it will be mandatory, its called pre conditioning so you are not shocked.
Just take a 3d pic of someone and pay with facepay?
I want it in Europe too