Mobility in Medieval Plate Armor/ Armour
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- Mobility in Medieval Plate Armor. This video shows that full plate allows one to stand up from a fall with relative ease. Perhaps the most infamous example is the notion that "knights had to be hoisted into their saddles with a crane," which is as absurd as it is persistent even among many historians. Misconceptions and Questions Relating to Armor. Armor was worn only by knights.Wrong. Women of earlier times never fought in battle or wore armor.-Wrong. Armor was so expensive that only princes and rich nobility could afford it.-Wrong. Armor is extremely heavy and renders its wearer immobile.-Wrong. Knights had to be hoisted into their saddles with cranes.-Wrong.
Dude running like he saw heresy in the distance.
I've been fucking laughing at this for nearly 40 minutes!
The beginnings of space marines "I heard HERESY and came as quickly as I could"
@@Rae-nm1bp perhaps, 40,000 minutes?
DEUS VULT! DEUS VULT! DEUS VULT!
*cocks shotgun* son?
From the creators of "Silencers don't actually silence your gun" comes "Medieval armor doesn't actually turn you into a turtle with arthritis"
But silencers actually don’t silence guns
@@empireepic92 I know, and now I know medieval armor doesn't slow you down either
@@Axl4325 let's talk about VSS :D
@@vengefulone6282
Yep. Silencers do actually silence your weapons, but the volume reduced very much depends on the weapon, silencer and ammo design. And of course silencers applied to the conventional guns don’t make them dead quiet like in the movies.
@@Kia044 Look up the definition of silence then the definition of suppress, crazy how the English language has words made for specific situations
It’s even more crazy when you realize how super custom the armor had to be made to be
Everything back then was custom and made to order.
@@hevnervals better than any of the most designer stuff these days and made for a reason, peak fashion of humanity for real
@@ChiquitaSpeaks We've lost our way. Look at our soulless glass skyscrapers
@@hevnervals "soulless"
That word is super overused now. It doesn't mean anything in most cases, youre talking about a fucking building.
also, skyscrapers look nice imo
@@Maxawa0851 Soulless is frequently used because society is turning soulless.
Plate armor was really a lot less cumbersome than most people think, and it’s protection against blades weapons was unmatched.
What was really an issue is when 8 peasants rushed you with big rocks and clubs and then held you down as they stabbed you through the gaps in your armor, that was no fun.
Filthy peasants not fighting fair 😡
Sounds like you speak from experience
Oh yeah, that happened to my buddy Jeffree last week.
Gone weak at the knees, have you?
Yeah we saw the clip as well
The chances of you being killed by running knight are low... but never zero.
2022 Edit: Why the fuck did this blow up so much? I was half asleap when I wrote this.
Well... you’d be able to hear them before they even got close enough. No ambush, stealth, or element of surprise.
When you’re in a forest and you hear “ * clank clank clank * “, start running. Best chance is hiding and making an escape while the tin man gives away his location, but you might have a stamina advantage. Even if they are mobile, having an additional 30-ish pounds to your every movement has to be taxing.
But I will admit that the thought of hearing steadily approaching clanking is really fucking funny.
@@Rehaaaaaaan Some people were killed in Canada a week ago, by a guy wearing armor and a sword. The odds are never zero.
say that to the medieval peasants
@@Roger-rh5lu The fuck? That actually happened?
@@So__far__away__ I'm not a politician, I don't need to lie
So this is what the skyrim bandit sees sprinting across the tundra.
No, they see Reanu Keeves.
@@mikedanielespeja6128 "I understood that reference."
@@mikedanielespeja6128 Ah, truly a warrior of legend. They say that his shouts have no end. He has slain countless men and dragons alike. He is the legend, Reanu Keeves.
And still thinks, "Eh, I can take him," unless he gets hit by a fear shout or spell.
The ebony gear
Seeing people in full plate mail sprinting and doing acrobatics is something I need more of in my life
He'll I want to do it myself 🙂
Search for “knights in gym”
He will I want to do it myself? @@r3dx226
I think the whole "heavy and immobile" armor stigma was from the time when guns were getting common on the battlefield. They tried to make armor more and more resistant to gunfire and it eventually became too heavy.
Actually no, at the time they just made plate armor for the torso and the hips while trying to make it more resistant but in the end they couldn't outpace the development of gun
Or creator of this clip putted modifications from modern time allowing that armour to be so mobile face it moder replicas are mockery they didnt had stainless steel and swords i saw in museum that are authentic were not from white stainless nasa steel
@@mrbloodylordbaronsamedi.9937 do you really think that the blacksmiths at the time were dumb to not be able to make armor that allowed you to be mobile yet resistant?
the idea of armoured knights being slow and cumbersome is due to the fact that at the time they were described that way because they were slow and cumbersome... compared to unarmoured soldiers. It's only relatively recently, with experimental archeology and whatnot, that we realized this.
Imagine if you tried to describe a tank while only having a car to compare it to.
i personally believe it was primarily due to jousting, since jousting armour is extremely heavy and cumbersome because it might have to take a lance at full speed
more peasants would have seen knights jousting than in battle, so they'd see slow clumsy knights if the contest went to foot
The fact my jeans are more constricting than medieval armour makes me severely ashamed and sad.
Then what are you waiting for? Go get some plated armor
Not meme of The week Underrated comment
Its not the jeans fault
errata you’re right, my giant balls do get in the way sometimes
It's a bit like Roman armour which was also good..
So what you're telling me is Dark Souls has accurate armor physics.
Yes
Glances over at a Havel Knight
@@mcdonutboy9817 I mean its stone armor thats thick what do you thinking going to happen
Armor yes weapons not so much
Flufkyn I mean the weapons are used like someone who just picked up a massive sword and started swinging woudl use it
Seeing this reminds me of one of the Uni Technicians, he used to do medieval re-enactments in full armour. He had some really good stories including one where a little car failed to stop as he was crossing the road and proceeded to wrap itself around his leg. He was fine, the car wasn't. Sadly he passed away just before I graduated.
RIP Colin
Did he die on the battlefield with a bloody longsword in his grip
Yeah sorry about that, he was a good duel tho
But, he would still be experiencing the force of the car as it hit his leg, even for a little car it would of hurt like hell.
I feel like part of the misconception about armor being cumbersome comes from fantasy depictions making armor look like it's three quarters of an inch thick, they'd be carrying around 300 pounds of metal on their bodies. Anytime I've seen real plate armor I'm always shocked how thin it is.
I think its cause its meant to be dense rather than flexible. So yeah it fends of blades easily, even tho its rather thin.
It probably came from jousting armor, which was super heavy and unwieldy as it was made mostly for protection and not for actual combat functionality. It was like 2 to 3 times the weight of battlefield armor.
@@publiusventidiusbassus1232 For me it's probably more to do with the fact that people just tend to expect "heavy" armor to be actually incredibly heavy in general due to the reality of modern warfare while errouneously projecting it to medieval warfare.
With tons of think layers, these armors don’t need to be thick to be effective. It’s quite amusing tbh.
Facking hell, where did the myth that armour restricts mobility come from?
I have worn jeans that restricted me more than those armours did.
Anime.
Hollywood most likely, like most medieval myths.
1800's historians who had this idea that the middle ages were a more primitive time. Seriously, read Mallory's Round table, it's full of crap like that.
Because at first glance, it looks very cumbersome. Its not until you see all the joints, segmentation and overlapping parts that you can fully appreciate how much mobility they have.
trvrdgr1234 guest
No
Full plate armor stats:
Defence: +10
Stealth: no.
Don't you mean 18?
Stealth: -1000000
Just cast silence
Just put a silencer on your armor. Video game logic approves
-1 mobility
There is even more. I have some time ago started walking with a weighted backpack. This is called rucking and is essentially what army soldiers do during training to improve their overall fitness and aerobic capacity.
Over months of regular daily walks I would monitor my heart rate and slowly increase my pace and load to keep my heart rate around my target. My fitness improved to the point where walking with a backpack was less taxing than walking without it before I started my training.
When the weight reached 45 pounds it became painful to walk due to uneven pressure on some parts of my body. I changed the backpack to a weighted vest of the same weight. But now thanks to this vest being *around* my trunk rather than on my back, it became very easy for me to walk around.
I can confidently say that people who wore these contraptions would not have any problem moving around due to weight alone, as long as they also spend enough time each day training in them. Your body can adjust to the load, you learn to move in new ways that take the added load into account and all your muscles, tendons and joints strengthen to withstand it as well as your cardiovascular, aerobic and endurance.
would that not damage your spine or something though
@@doggosuki Nope, unless you something stupid, it will strengthen it over time. Are soldiers or backpackers coming down with spine issues? Not really…
@@doggosukinot really. Your spine is designed to be load bearing.
High impact jumping could damage your knees, but you'd be retarded to think jumping down even a 3ft elevation would be ok. As long as you are avoiding the high impact on your knees, you are good. You will actually increase bone density as well as muscle strength. Pressure on those tissues triggers them to strengthen.
You should google "weight training bines vs normal bones" and typically you can find some pictures. They are thicker and more dense. Its like looking at a piece of wood vs a piece of rock.
great point!
@@leonardmilcin7798 you will have problems with your spine, 100%
I am not surprised as a retired soldier. 50 pounds of deadweight on your body vs. 80-120 pounds of deadweight on your shoulders is an amazing difference. I am very impressed with their ability to perform in full plate. It was, after all, the M1 Abrams technology of its time. Unexpected results. 😮
Nonsense, M1 Abrams is a tank that simply cannot be destroyed, its armour is impervious to anything while this medieval armour can be defeated easily.
@@SMGJohn_Secondary Finally beaten Black Ops 1 on Veteran, have you?
I agree
The difference being that the plate armour's physical protection actually worked, was weight efficient and was worth the investment in the Medieval Period as opposed to the M1 Abrams or any modern MBT for that matter.
@@SMGJohn_Secondary M1 Abrams definitelly can be destroyed by like 1000 of other weapons.
Imagine having a knight cartwheeling towards you at terminal velocity.
While the King of the Hill theme blares from somewhere. XD
Well he's about to hit the ground so I wouldn't worry about anything besides not being under him.
@@DoctorInk20 you mean the Benny Hill theme?
XD
OH
*hears the end of the video*
Ok what the fuck HAHAHAHA thats priceless XDD
@@davecrupel2817 Totally! I love that bit. I was going to say "just wait for it". XD
That there's a knight determined to sell you propane and propane accessories. XD
You mean the Isle of Mann flag basically?
**guy in armour does a roll**
Everyone: So you have chosen.... Darksouls.
Its called Fatroling.....
@@nore5992 not with havel's ring it isn't
Now we just need to find someone with enough STR to wield the FUGS.
NoRe nah, that’s more a mid roll. If he was fat rolling, he’d be falling on his back first
Gotta bump up that VIT
1:13 when the maiden in the distance flashes her elbow
Medieval metal craftsman were just amazing. Really must appreciate the skill required to create such armor.
I feel like someone is trying to win an argument with their DM.
Yeah not having a speed penalty for heavy armor feels so unrealistic at first glance, but it checks out
At a demo I was in armor and was taking a nap between fights. Someone from my d&D group was present and summoned the DM who was nearby to observe. Sleeping in armor was thus authorized.
Lmao
Type shit
@@defensivekobra3873 You most definetly should have a speed penalty. You're much more agile with cloth on your back and can move more without getting tired but your agility isn't that of a log though.
00:01 Imagine you’re taking a walk in the woods and you hear some weird metallic noises behind you so you turn around and you see a man in full armor dashing at full speed towards you with his sword out
U//w//U
@Branden Heineman thanks 🙏
Funny enough, if fighting full armored knight, hes gonna prefferably attack your ass on a horse. In that case you have exactly 20 and less seconds to turn the road into agincourt.
Imagine you're taking a *shit* in the woods and you hear...
00:01
It’s still pretty damn cool that even a small portion of the world back then used full on armor like this. Shows you how good human ingenuity was back then, and it’s crazy that we have technology more advanced than this.
An important thing to remember is that armor and weapoms always were developed to suit the regions of the wearers. It is documented that heavy metal armored conquistadors eventually started wearing the central american armors because their giant tin cans basically cooked them alive and was hard to navigate dense jungle and swamp in. While the native armor wasn't as "advanced" it fit the region it was made for by being light and letting air flow.
@@kid14346 That imagery of Conquistadors wearing native armor always gives me 60s Vietnam vibes. Also, another thing I wanna support with is they used horses and were a very small population in every battle they were in, using other tribes for much of their manpower. Full armor would only be useful if they were seiging or defending behind walls, which much of the native depiction of Spaniards in full armor were during those 2 types of warfare - and more notably, during diplomacy.
@@kid14346 the native armor was pretty much the same as early medieval gambesons. While lighter armor came to be preferred (depending on which land they were conquering), they never abandoned steel plate. They just reserved it for more special occassions, like cavalry charges.
@@publiusventidiusbassus1232 I never said they fully abandoned, just that many foot soldiers adapted by taking armor from slain enemies or creating their own lighter armor inspired by the native's armor.
Armor always has some restriction on mobility, but considering how many methods there were to defeat armor back then, it'd be very stupid to repeatedly design armor that's meant to fight in with low mobility. At the very least, those people probably didn't come back.
Everyone in a zombie apocalypse movie: wears cloth. gets bitten. dies.
Me:
I always wonder the refusal to wear armor in zombie apocalypse
@@IRON_KING_KNIGHT granted, getting crushed under hoards of 100 bodies probably isn't a better scenario.
@@DTux5249
I didn’t say fight 100 zombie at once i meant when they are defending a building and one zombie sneaks behind them then the armor will come handy
@@IRON_KING_KNIGHT
True, but generally being able to move is better. Especially in "walking dead" type universes. Of course this vid proves that to not be the case, but stereotypes
And honestly, given how deaf these characters are, i think armour is the least of their priorities.
Like, in no mainstream universe have I seen quiet zombies and they somehow sneak up on people.
Regardless, characters have to be able to move quickly at a moment's notice, and because "armour makes you slow" (at least by their universes logic) it's better to keep light to avoid the horde
@@DTux5249
You have a point but one thing you forgot to mention is that armor is noisy so sneaking around can be difficult but what I’m talking about is when someone staying in the base defending... and some survivors or “base members” are coming back with a horde chasing them. So if you put it this way:
Ten armored men with automatic fire mode on or single fire for ammo saving.. encounter a horde coming from obviously one side. And the defenders attack!! The defenders will eventually reload and lose sight of some the undead in the horde... so if they lost sight of the horde then they might get attacked from behind.... depending on the structure and how the zombies can get in so maybe zombies will crawl from holes or tunnels and get behind the defender and since the defender can’t hear anything and maybe one of their own men dies without noticing anything!! So I would say armor is for a “scenario” that has a 17% chance of occurring once each raid... then armor is there for that scenario.
But scouting is best without armor ( like you said you need best mobility possible)
1:41 "And it has to be able to withstand what is perhaps the pinnacle of medieval metallurgy, the L O N G S"
Pretty sure that was "Longsword" and the word was cut off.
@@andyknightwarden9746 Nope, it was the secret weapon of medieval time
Fear the L O N G S
@@ry4nmaster The longs. Such an amazing weapon. Quite versatile too
But did you see how the longs just bounced off the armor.
Yeah the L O N G S were the reason knights always won
My son just learned in school that knights could not get up off the ground without several people helping. So I showed him this. Which somehow didn't convince hime. But bloop is totally real.... I just... I can't even with kids.
Well this is one CZcams video that doesn't seem to have used any of the actual armor from the period, nor even specified the time period, so it's not exactly scientific evidence.
@@myblacklab7you're kidding, right? Literally everything you said is wrong
@@publiusventidiusbassus1232 It isn't a CZcams video?
Because I said it's a CZcams video, and if literally everything I said is wrong, then I must be wrong about that.
I literally don't think that the word "literally" means anything anymore.
@@myblacklab7Several of those harness are from world renowned armourers costing $20k+ and even then they are often not of the same quality as the originals. If anything it underplays the mobility of good harness.
@@leeecraven488 Thank you for expressing your opinion. I suppose there is a lot of information out there about the subject, but not much of that information made its way into this video.
Perhaps one of the most ideal video on CZcams. No nonsense, straight away jumps to the content. Good work.
"I don't want to wear armor, it slows me down"
0:00 *Lemme tell u sumthin*
Literally everyone I know says they would wear chain mail at most because it's just "too clunky"
BUSTIN' MAKES ME FEEL GOOD
LEMME TELL YO-
I feel like that'd be 1:25 if anything
Spartans: '-' oh shit
People don't use their logic today. They think that wearing 50lbs of plate armor is like wearing a 50lbs backpack. It's completely different when that weight is dispersed throught your body.
And even then soldiers today carry a 100lbs pack plus other equipment.
@@epicwisp7450 Except these days, most of that weight is on your back and chest, which is unequal distribution.
Well, they never worn one before - so they're just using some instinct and imagination. For things like this, even when thinking with logic, you might visualize something incorrectly because you have never experienced it (never perceived and familiarized those particular, specific physical sensations before. Like seeing a cake, knowing its gonna be sweet and stuff, and eating it and realizing it's not exactly what you thought it'd taste like - maybe there's unexpected texture and all. Still sweet though.) Things get clearer with hindsight and experience. But you're right, thinking critically with regard to detail like that does help in tempering your visualization/imagination.
Think Critically (the Concentrated kind - Not the confrontational/conflict kind)
"People don't use their logic today"
Well, that's a very illogical statement of itself. Besides, this idea that armor is overly cumbersome isn't a myth I've heard much about, if it all. No TV show or movie have really perpetuated this "myth" as far as I can tell. Nor have I read a book describing armor this way.
These guys just made a clickbait title by telling you everyone thought this, but really, most haven't thought about it whatsoever.
BIG TIME I can confirm that the unequal distribution in modern armor/equipment is quite cumbersome if you’re marching for long distances or trying to get up.
Armor of that era was never a problem of mobility. It was the problem of "I can't see a damn thing with this bloody helmet on".
Hence why the helmets had visors.....
People probably mistake jousting armour as the real wartime armour. Those competition armour are heavy and thicker. Knights train hard and prepared for their day in the battlefield and are part of the nobility in addition to being the “special forces” of the army, surely they would demand and have authority to demand armourers to make armours that will showcase their hardwork and skills.
I'm sure knights had to train in their Armour too. Dudes would have been some serious tanks.
yep they did, and there was a knight-only free time training before tournaments to climb a really high ladder using only hands (hanging from it) to the castle walls, as flex and show of strength, so ye, maybe medieval people was shorter then we are right now, but the sure thing they where strong as hell
yes you are right, in fact French Knights were so tank that 5000 knights cut through 30,000 ottoman lines without any support from their infantry only to be destroyed because they were surrounded from all sides. They were some of the most fearsome fighting machines in medival times.
Yeah they trained there whole life back then people were in shape
@@Spectrum_Wireless so you obviously know nothing
@Fullmile Gaming yeah
That is a terrifying sight, a man dashing at full speed towards you, full armour, sword out
Until you pull out a gun.
@@Red41554 gl hitting or doing severe enough damage to stop them.
@@t.va.6611 With a gun? It's not Mjolnir armor.
If you run away, he probably won't catch up to you
@@ConstantineJoseph: Not if he from dork soles
The chances of a knight in full plate armour charging you randomly are low....
But never zero.
Making such heavy materials feel light is truly masterful.
I remember my history teacher when I was about 8 years old, she was claiming that medieval knight would not be able to even stand up if fallen. Shame on her for teaching me and my friends bullshit like this.
Same man
There were certain armors that wouldn't allow specific movements, but like 99% of armor was like what's shown in these videos
@@benatchison8962 I think the only really constrictive armor was the jousting coaches that were basically stiff metal coffins, but those were for sport. They were at the ass end of the Medieval era so that's probably why people thought they were all like that, as earlier armors weren't found until later
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Yes, that's likely the armor I was thinking of. There's also a story of a king falling from his horse and drowning in like 3 inch deep water, but I don't know if he couldn't get up because of the armor or his weight
Cultural Marxism that's why
0:00 POV of a Dark Souls boss.
POV of a hollow archer reloading
Every roll a circle press
Lmaooooo
Dude this is so underrated
The Stranger I’m crying right now lol
People seem to think that, because they are out of shape, and couldn't lug that armor around, so were knights... The knights wore it all time and trained in their armor, so they built up tons of muscle to move it.
I know some guys that were big into the SCA. Of of them was a man mountain who looked like a 240 pound tree stump. I saw him do a standing backflip while wearing a full suit of plate armor. It wasn't as fancy as the stuff this guy was wearing either but it would have weighed roughly the same. So yeah, the guys who are used to wearing that armor could move pretty well in it.
"Squire?"
"Yes, milord?"
"I need to pee"
😂
I read somewhere the heavily armoured knights had no choice but to just shit and piss in their pants due to the hassle of removing their armour.
@@fathom2732 oh man that would've been the worst, imagine getting ready for a big battle and the first guy you fight stinks so bad you can't even breathe after every movement he does. Every step the man takes just vibrates the turd so much that all you can smell is the turd.
Your eyes water and all you wanna do is fight someone else who doesn't stink, the horrendous smell from that turd combined with the amount of water he didn't drink and the fact he's probably sweaty af in the armor would make any man run in disgust, I think we all know how battles were won on the front lines.
@@noble14 Yes I would definitely have enlisted as an archer.
@@fathom2732 I think I'd rather just be a wayfaring knight challenging people to duels on the road. Or even just a tournament fighter. Something simple that won't make me puke in disgust.
So this proved that dark souls dodging can be a real thing
Yeah you can but you don't get any invincibility frames though.
@@jaywyse7150 ah yes of course
@@jaywyse7150 you can't prove that maybe they just haven't rolled with the right timing.
But they are fat rolling.
GrandAdoboMan need to put more points in Vitality
Its 2am,you're eating leftovers with the lights out and a subtle metallic noise catches your attention. You turn and see a suit of armour sprinting at you
Medieval armor: saves you from direct hit by a blade
Modern armor: light, but you're still as vulnerable as before
Different protection for different threats.
Not if you're counting modern ceramic plates instead of flak jackets, though.
Almost like armor was designed for humans to move in...
U sure?
That would be crazy
An insanely underrated comment
thats wild
impossible...
Boss: *breathes*
Dark souls player: 0:32
XD
Blade of Darkness
Edit: so, bod is not forgotten?
In Dark souls, the boss breathing can probably kill you.
@Seraphi Grimaldi that's like a mid roll in ds1
fr
That little clip at the end is probably the most wholesome thing I'll se today. Regardless, really great and informative video
thought this was going to be a funny compilation of people stuck in armor, ended up being a thoroughly educational piece about the actual mobility of medieval armor
When you’re retaking the holy land and she says she’s home alone
2:20
@@ricechido1089 holy land of course, bros before hoes
Full plate armor weren't used by crusader.
She is but just a moment
Yet...
The holy land is ETERNAL
@@leverite6127 This guy gets it 😂
It's almost as if when people started creating armor they wanted to make sure they could actually fight in it 🤔
I'd definitely min max my way to victory if I were to go back to the medieval times. Why bother with mobility when you can have an impenetrable coffin of steel to guard your life? Sure, I couldn't hurt anybody, but nobody can hurt me, either!
@@davidreeding9176 wouldn't blunt weapons would be devastating to armor.
@@waltersobchak4565 not if it's think enough
@@davidreeding9176 the problem would be your joints, too much armor and you'd be giving up your ability to defend effectively from someone stabbing your armpits.
Unless you armor your armpits (armorpits?) in which case you can't move your arms and have to kickbox people like the Black Knight
@@davidreeding9176 The enemy would promptly capture you with ease and set your steel box armor on top of a fire pit, leaving you to cook inside of your steel sarcophagus Brazen Bull style.
Unanticipated and very enlightening.
Thank you.
Agree with most of your points in your description other than implying that plate armour was affordable... it certainly wasn't. Good full plate was still 6-12 months wages on a typical soldier's wages and it would be several years wages for lower paid peasants so its still pretty expensive. You'd have to be wealthy and at least of the upper classes to afford. Also I think some of these videos on the mobility are a bit misleading. Watch some of the videos from the modern fully armoured fighting series in eastern Europe and see how quickly the wearers get puffed out and can barely move through exhaustion. Yes you might be able to sprint but not for very long.
The overall affordability of armor varied from period to period in the Middle Ages, though. While in general it was still quite expensive, plates (not necessarily full plates, but still) were starting to become more affordable and more sophisticated as time went on. Sure, still expensive, but take into account that in the Early Middle Ages pretty much *nobody* had any armor to speak of and knights only had chain mail. Fast forward to the later stages of the Middle Ages centuries after and decent brigandines were starting to pop up more and more frequently amongst common soldiers while the knights just simply got even more sophisticated armor. Warfare in general was trending more towards armored warfare as time went on.
Until *G U N* happened...
@@mekingtiger9095 There were armors against guns as well
@@terrylyn Those were of the *very* heavy and expensive variety, though. Specially the ones from the Early Modern period at the tail end of the armor era when armorsmiths were trying to make their last ditch attempts at making *something* that could reliably stop bullets.
The result was a suit of armor that *did* weight almost as much as jousting armor.
They could move a lot quicker if they’d only equip Havels ring
Either that or they could optimize their builds. Smh fuckin casuls
😂😂
"I understood that reference"
Nice 😂😂
Or they just need to get gud and go naked like a pro
Plate Armor is literally the first form of Pay to Win.
Yeah, but the Chinese update destroyed the whole meta.
What about horses?
@@panqueque9750 that was a free DLC pack only available in Mongolia
Patrolling the medieval castle almost makes you wish for a crusader attack.
The second was called "indulgences"
Thank you for this video. I will definitely need this information for later in my life.
Whiles these are trained professionals keep in mind most anointed knights began their training as children, squiring as young as 14. What we see today is likely only a small percentage of what a knight trained through their entire adulthood could do.
Knights in game: Somewhat slower than average walkspeed because of the "heavy" armor they wear
Knights in real life: Ooh, you think I'm slow just because I have armor on, eh? *Well, let me teach you a lesson boy*
then they sprint towards you with swords in hand, ready to kill you.
If they dont have their armor, i wonder how fast a medieval knight can run.
A knight in full heavy plated armor with a halberd is definitely slower than a unarmored knight with just a longsword
Thing is the difference isn't something massive and even if the armor weight makes your stamina drain as if you have a heart disease the fact you don't have to dodge 90% of all incoming blows means you'll still get tired slower than an unarmored dude who must dodge everything or die/lose a limb
But I'm pretty sure that it is very stamina draining
oh, no, they were definitely slower, but not slow enough to don't make you run for your ass
Fair Maiden: “Did you bring protection?”
Knight: “I am protection”
Lmao
Soon after: sells armour to raise child
@@futsk01 child finds his father's sword in the old chest in the attic *quest complete*
Maybe you're been over protective
TRIPLE entendre. That’s rare.
didn't know I needed video of a full armored knight doing cartwheels while the King of the Hill theme plays, in my life haha! That alone was worth the like!
Me trying to **quietly** sneak into the kitchen at night: 1:11
Imagine walking in the forest and seeing a full metal men sprinting at you
Me:*Runs in forest saying*GUYS I LIKE STEEL MORE THAN GOLD GUYS
I mean, just sprint in the same direction? You clearly have the advantage in a chase.
In the 15th and 16th century (gothic and renaisance) the plate armor was the most active, but sadly, either you have to be rich enough to afford it ( horse, armor, weapons, clothes under the armor, saddle etc) and that price is equal to modern tank (with different currency, but still a tank) your other option to get it is to loot. The best armory was in german territories (holy roman empire) and italian states. But id recomend for your fattas the italian, since german required for you to be unaturaly slim. They did this by having a certain thing on them. They were still mobile (i believe terrifingly even more so) but german knights had to make themself slim by wearing a piece of clothing that would be later used by women from 18th century to 1930's.
Just say your part of the holy land.
NONE SHALL PASS
1:24 when he receives a letter from his maiden saying she's alone in the castle
lmfao
Maiden: Do be a dashing knight and come soothe my aching bosom.
1:07
Hahahaha
Then arriving and seeing that the maiden is "in another castle".
Classic.
Just came by to watch this again for a reminder.
this video must have ended so many arguments
Light Armor Trainers: You'll be able to run circles around those big slow brutes in heavy armor.
Big Slow Brutes in Heavy Armor:
Isn't heavy armor really thick
@@SCP--rj8hm no the knights were
2:18
@@salihthefirst4132
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@@pancytryna9378 LMFAO
I never realized until today how horrifying it would be to see a fully decked out knight charging you at a full sprint.
Even more terrifying if they're astride a horse and it's a mounted cavalry charge.
@@tay2250 and the horse has armour same as the knight, Gothic Knights.
Even more horrifying is that after canons and muskets they just got blown to bits
I was thinking the same thing!!
It's particularly bad if the knight is Sir Lancelot and you're guarding Swamp Castle during a wedding.
Most enlightening, thanks. I had no idea medieval plate allowed such freedom of movement.
As a person who loves history I find this video to be interesting actually.
And that's why Dark Souls is *_MOSTLY_* realistic regarding armor and mobility
Edit: *Bold* and _italics_
DS starts off realistic but then gets ridiculous pretty quickly. In the beginning you are rolling around in typical leather and plate armor but very soon you are rolling in full Havel's and swinging weapons that would swing you in real life.
Imitation Krabs to be fair, a lot of those lategame armor and weapons tend to require ridiculously high stats to use properly without the use of magical items like Havels Ring.
I doubt most humans go around sporting Chaos Zweihanders with only 16 STR
I have always thought dark souls does a great job, for a game, of blurring the line between somewhat realistic medieval combat and complete fantasy
99 vitality be like
0:33
Imagine being on the battlefield and there's an entire line of armored knights cartwheeling towards you.
Actually the Zaporozhian Cossacks used to do just this, right in front of their enemy, before battle. This is recreated in this video:czcams.com/video/542XpqBy4kY/video.html
That actually happened to me, not once, but twice.
We answered with Backflips, and we won! (My captain did some handsprings..but you know..he's the leader and all that...so...pffft)
Havel’s dark wood grain ring
@@-dusan5726 ooo this film is based on a very known polish book
@@lukitommele3798 yes
Why on earth is youtube recommending me this video 7 years later
great video, will be purchasing a full medieval plate armor set soon!
The effectiveness of plate armor during a zombie apocalypse is slept on
True
Lmao true. Was just thinkin about this the other day
Zombies have opposable thumbs though 🤔
But here's the thing
People
If it's armor like it's shown on the video
Then almost any bullet would ne able to pierce it, but if it's renaissance era armor then small calibre bullets would be stopped by it.
@@beans8479 yeah but if the zombies or inFeCTed were large scale, then you would have less people to think about
Famous last words:
*don’t worry he can’t run fast*
The last thing you see: 0:01
Hey don’t worry mate it’s plate armor he can’t run OH MY GOD RUN
He would at least tire out more quickly than you, with no armour on, would - assuming that you are as fit as him (which admittedly is a big assumption).
@@laamonftiboren4236 woooosh
@@interwestingstuffinterwest6459 Oh really? Do tell.
Yeah the thing that makes the fights look more clunky isn't so much the weight or mobility loss, but rather the huge sight decrease from the helmet. Thats what gets yah.
That's why they had visors.....
@@StonesSticksBones Visors still block your vision a lot up until they get large enough to compromise your safety.
The blacksmiths and engineers back then were surprisingly talented. Can’t be no easy task to make a tank armor for men that they can actually move in.
Many recent advancements in engineering have been because calculators/computers have made it faster to do iterative calculations. A lot of principles have remained the same for millenia. Engineers and skilled laborers had the skills and talent, they just didn’t have the tools quite yet.
SeanDaNerd very true
Each set of historic plate armor is a ingenious work of craftsmanship and brilliant engineering in its own right. To me the armorers and blacksmiths that forged and fitted these plated armors were no less epic tier!
Agreed. Even full armored samurai is heavy
Agreed
Females: “Guys only want one thing and it’s freaking disgusting”
Guys:
Dark souls players be like:
@@MausOfTheHouse Yeah, that's pretty accurate.
@@AbyssalPlague "this game is the dark souls of (x)
@@MausOfTheHouse lol those "journalist" cant think of a better way to word it if its just slightly dificult
"Journalist": its just like darksouls
Why...how many have you got?
It might be worth noting that plate armor evolved over times. Steel became lighter and stronger but did not start out that way.
These men had trained from childhood to operate in this equipment. They were physically fit and knew their life, and financial well being, depended on their abilities.
Dude wasn't even fat rolling, that was a solid mid roll
He obviously has Havel's ring.
@@fz000ghost8 Lmao
I see mans of culture here
@@fz000ghost8 I see you are a man of culture as well
@@fz000ghost8 just what I thought
When dark souls is more accurate than most movies.
Yes, thats the problem :/ and some peaple be like: nAH NaH NAh tHEi CaNd MoFE iN ThySs!.! yTz 75 KilOGrAm, nAH!
@@Krevet_The2 Don't do that.
@@Krevet_The2 What I find funny is that people often say Chainmail is better for movement, but that's incorrect as well.
Plate armor is simply superior in almost all ways from a combat perspective. (Now from a combat readiness / economics stand-point you can make a case for chainmail.)
69th like.
@@ocek2744 the thing is, soldiers/ knights left the castle fully armored and armed, in long treks and runs, a fully armored knight will always be more tired than just foot soldiers in chainmail/ leather, not only when leaving castle, but in the middle of battle too
I now MUST sponsor a 5k fun-run in full armor for all participants.
Cool. This video brings back fond memories of Danny Kaye in " The Court Jester ".
Her majesty : Come, thee Roy and Queen aren't present
Thou : Nay, I must anwser to Papal orders from the Church
Her Majesty : Mine chastity belt is off
Thou :
A man of true culture I see
only medieval people find this funny
@@frel-hi9yi me prehistoric
1:15
Only 1300's kids will understand
Imagine looking out your window and seeing a man in his back garden dressed in full metal armour doing star jumps.
ght ima gonna head out
I would make that man my best friend
Lmfao Star jumps? That a UK thing?
I've only heard those being called jumping jacks. Star jumps make sense though
I think I prefer calling it Star Jumps now.
I’m liking these armor suit videos on my related lately
Very cool-looking in full armor
One also has to consider the fact that the knights themselves spent most of their days training and were probably in much better physical shape than the average person today
Professional Murder is hard work. Gotta be in tip top shape for it.
Probably? The average person has the speed, reaction time and reflexes of a dead lizard. Im pretty sure training was more intense back then too
@@ChrisPBacon-bl9rv unlikely
They knew fuckall about nutrion and body mechanics
@shooty tooty gun with big magazine they compare it with the regular human from today not with athletes and everyone who does sport is fitter then the average lets say US american or then the average european.
I'm sure that almost any of the people back then that were not malnourished or sitting in a position of power had veins busting out of every muscle. Ex stepdad was an alcoholic and had terrible eating habits but never left the farm and had a more solid physique than someone who does crossfit 5 days a week. The random peasant woodcutter or bricklayer without monsters and snack cakes would likely be among high end high school athlete level.
Imagine how ungodly loud battlefields had to be with all these armor sets clangin’ and bangin’ around.
The screams of people will drown everything else though.
@@edryctan672 Poetic, my friend.
I’m sure bombs nowadays are slightly louder
Battles have always been a loud business. The clash of weapons, clanging of armour and shields, screams of the dying and injured, frenzied battle cries, officers attempting to shout out orders amidst the chaos, etc.
The only “quiet” battlefield, I think, are assassinations.
@@1003JustinLaw I’m picturing being in a village maybe a mile or two away from the battlefield and hearing at least faint cries and noises, if not ones clear as a bell, as I wait to see who’s victorious.
Imagine being running from enemy like that in medieval battle.
Once per year this video gets recommended to me, and once per year I watch it
Imagine ramming someone with full body armor at full speed.
BeardedDoc that's like getting hit by a cabinet in the face....
Now add a horse and a sharp lance!
Well play professional american football as a noob, pretty much the same effect.
fatality
Someone took the Pain Train perk...
"Come over"
"Can't I'm busy"
"The Saracens have returned to Jerusalem"
0:01
Underrated comment lmao
*deus vult intensifies*
deus vult brother
lol
LMFAO
Pillaging the nearby villages while the collumn marches? The choice of a true gentlemen!
Not even fatrolling, damm thats a lot of endurance
1:16 Imagine there's a break in a chaotic battle and you and this guy lock eyes and he decides you're his next target
A One Man Crusade has chosen YOU as today's conversion target.
I have one thought:
“FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK”
*induced panik*
Yeah, f that lol
POV: Your eyes lock on to another Pokémon trainer
1:43 POV: You’re a Dark Souls boss
Haha, thanks for the chuckle! Here’s a like 👍🏻😂
XXDDDD
Roll
this video also proved that souls are slow af, reality is even faster
1:25 POV: you're a normal enemy on the path to the boss
Very good test and results!
well the weight of the armor is distributed across the entire body, so that most pieces are supported by a difference muscle, so it makes sense that they would be able to move that fast.
Me: Picks up item in an Oblivion shopkeepers store to look at it better
Every guard in Cyrodil: 0:00
LMBO
*nuts*
STOP! You violated the law!
0:00 doesn't work
The crime system in Oblivion..it's so bad I adore it