Looks like we may be able to still build Hackintosh computers. Someone leaked an AMD ARM processor in the works. AMD Ryzen C7 SoC. www.cnx-software.com/2020/06/01/amd-ryzen-c7-arm-cortex-x1-a78-a55-processor-mediatek-5g-modem-leak/
8:06 ummmm you need to do you research mate AMD RYzen processors are fully supported on OpenCore I am on a RyzenTOsh right now. you don't need an intel machine any more to do a Hackintosh.
It'll be a lot harder to build an ARM based Hackintosh, though I can imagine someone hacking macOS to run on the Raspberry Pi and adapt from there for other ARM SBCs! So exit the Hackintosh, enter the Apple Pi? Seriously though, if Apple decided to release a Raspberry Pi style ARM based SBC, Apple Pi would be an awesome name!
If apples switching to arm they’re gonna do it right. Everything’s gonna be secure, there’s no way they’ll allow it to run in anything other than apple silicon. New macs are gonna be more powerful ipads, and we don't see anyone running iPadOS on raspberry Pi.
@Bob Landers "ARM only works for Android and some Linux Distros." So these romours about Apple switching to ARM are false... ...and the iPhone doesn't run on ARM. Neither macOS nor iOS are Android nor are they any Linux dstro.
When it comes to channel strikes of that nature, they will find all your channels and remove them, so creating a channel like that would put this channel at risk.
This guy is an excellent host, the way he presents the ideas, clear accent, the speed he talks, and outline of the video are just right, and he does this with little or no editing.
I really love your videos. I left Windows and went with Linux after been influenced. And I am happy cause I am now better at programming and hacking. Thank you for your videos. Love from Nepal
@@justarandomguy7341 Bro, there is nothing like best Linux distro. Linux itself is powerful and everything is pretty much customizable. Choose the distro you are comfortable at.
7:56 WRONG. You can have a hackintosh with a threadripper with 32c/64c. Opencore is giving you a way to install an all amd hackintosh as clean as with intel cpus. So you wrong there!
Honestly I'm all for ARM taking over on the laptop space. I'd love to see ARM laptops that could be impossibly thin, no fans, massive battery life, etc. You have to admit, X86 is a beast of a platform these days. Things like the PineBook Pro intrest me a lot since i love small laptops that pack a punch for a cheap price. and I'd love to see Linux ARM adoption get much better as a result of the ARM switchover. one thing i want apple to do is to combine their MacOS and iPadOS together so when you're in ipad mode you've got that ipad interface, but you put it on the keyboard cover, it becomes a full mac computer. I hope they do that down the line. I mean the high end phones these days could easily compare to a laptop in performance these days. I don't see why windows/Linux/mac couldn't harness that power and get massive batteries or massive battery life out of them, or both. I know I might not be the popular vote, but i have to say from apple's perspective, it makes perfect sense. One more thing... I would love it if apple still built in bootcamp to allow you to install ARM linux/Windows. that would be neat, but knowing apple, they'll probably lock it out. and one other possibility i see happening, is a huge shift toward ARM laptops. You've already seen this happen with apple removing the headphone jack and offering a wireless headset as a replacement to the loss, why not ARM laptops running windows or linux.
Agree 100% Jess, the space definitely needs ARM. I'd love for people to take the new ARM hardware and do other things with it. I am going to buy one just to load Linux on it and see how it runs.
@@ChrisTitusTech as we see, the ARM processors have almost entirely dominated the SBC market because they're relatively cheap and don't produce as much heat negating the need for a fan. I'd like to see ARM laptops rise.
@@ChrisTitusTech Linux world also has to up their game regarding ARM. Manjaro ARM team has been working really hard to get it to run on ARM platforms but there are a lot of them and it's not a one build runs on all of them state. They're not getting much support either. Thankfully Pine worked with them and we have the lovely Pinebook Pro but it's the exception, not the rule. For example, Fedora plain out states they won't bother working on something as common & widespread as raspberry pi.
it makes sense to use ARM on laptops, ao eventually it will happen, but to be honest i'm not a fan of ARM, as i usually use heavy desktop PCs, ARM in desktop will suck.
I had so many years problem with Windows especially PC building. Windows pretty much robbed my precious productivity time just to troubleshoot. Once I got iMac in 2013, my productivity increase and never worried about anything but focus to work. This iMac will still working for another 4 years. That's how good Mac is.
ARM architecture allow for proprietary extensions to the CPU, I suspect that apple will incorporate extensions to not only prevent hackintoshes but also running Linux on these machines.
They already locked it out with the T2 chip. I don't see how the extensions would block it though. The real problem would be fuses and a signing key in mask ROM.
I'm a linux / windows user myself. I bought a mac air to build mac/ios apps a while back. Apple is 20 years ahead in app development tool chains compared to Android. Their main selling point is for developer companies both in software and design. Prices are off the rails of course.
Ryzen work so well on opencore. You can install on a Ryzen system, you can install on all Ryzen system... So easy.. One EFI to rule them all (Easier than using Intel actually).
Z97 ASUS Radeon 580 . How do I fix the IGPU display. Two things are happening, on the Mac side it does not recognize two separate displays (tried several different. Displays). When I add the Radeon, the igpu freezes with boot script while the Radeon displays five screens with one being pink. All are 27 displays with no weird adapters. Please advise
One small point to bring up. Those OpenCore computers being sold did not actually spin off of the OpenCore project. There merely tacked on the name and the people of the OpenCore project are unhappy about it. I heard that the computer website is no longer working, so it might have been the scam many have suspected it of being.
Isn't Qualcomm a lot faster than Cortex? Problem is they don't sell the chips to anyone but OEMs. RPIs are great but it's a whole other market. I'm curious what's the graphics card support like though? Nvidia drivers are bad on x86 Linux, I can only imagine it's worse on Arm. AMD might be better but I imagine you'd have to compile the drivers yourself.
I'm pretty sure we will be able to build a Hackintosh even on the arm, running inside a VM of course, an ARM emulator for X86 / X64 won't be that hard to build
I remember the early days of the Hackinstosh when there were no such installers. Those all were pre-packaged systems and each upgrade caused some problems. You also needed to manually copy the "mach_kernel" for the necessary system when needed. Usually I ended up upgrading the system, but leaving the same kernel version. Man, this was all crazy.
@@thespinoffpodcast I gave up Hackintosh thoughts and considering that Apple is leaving x86 I would assume that it has not more than 3-4 years of support left. But the installers seem to be much easier than before. Personally, I won't bother with this. I would just buy old Mac Pro, upgrade it and use it with dosDude patch. So, no Hackintosh for me. I had so much pain with those in the past and I really don't want to mess around with it even if it became easier.
Interesting video! In past videos, you mention your dislike for the macOS UI, yet you're interested in getting macOS running on non-Apple hardware. :) In any event, it was interesting to watch! Thanks for posting!
First video of yours I've watched...the fact that you have a monitor in the background scrolling the Matrix code makes me happy. Back in the day (circa 2004) I had three 19" CRT monster monitors running the Matrix Code Emulator screensaver...it was super awesome.
Macs are basically ... an OK OS, wrapped up in a pretty package, with mediocre hardware, and then you’re charged like double what you should pay for that hardware ... in a nutshell :-)
I just finished mine yesterday. Opencore. Ryzen 9. 3950x. 16 cores 32 threads. 32gb of ram. 2tb NVME SSD and 10tb hard drive. With Radeon RX 5700 8gb running Catalina and matching a MacPro Late 2019 with 16 cores.
but wat m saying is a 2020 apple computer is intel right, which means it will get updates for at least for 7 yrs. from apple which also means the updates or firmwares which apple releases for the next 7 yrs. will be compatible with intel processors too right, this means hackintosh is still goin to be there for the next 7 yrs.
Love Hackintosh, build one using cameleon about 13 years ago but got to a point it wouldn't update and ended up crashing while using Kodi, lol ... will try to build another one soon. Love your videos and your knowledge... thank you for your work..
Open Core is a fantastic project and what makes it stand out for me, in a fairly long history of hackintoshing, is the superb documentation at dortania. I bought my first Mac in '92 because I wanted to design and print my own business leaflets and someone told me they were easier to work with than regular PC's - given that at the time a common perception was that only really, really clever people knew how to operate computers, (and I knew I wasn't!) this was a huge selling point! That and 12 months interest free credit! For a long time Apple managed to find a sensible balance between aesthetics and engineering, despite, rather than because of Jobs' obsessions, and I frequently gave away my 5 year old Macs to friends and family, who would use them for another five years - I have Macs from the early 2000's that still work perfectly well, without being much use to anyone other than the Lundukes of the world ;) My point is that overcharging for guaranteed quality of components and longevity wasn't a problem for me - overcharging for poor design and components is just unconscionable and I stopped buying their products a decade ago. For everyday computing Linux DE is great, but as I've spent the last 20 odd years collecting bits of audio related outboard gear, a lot of which needs bespoke control panel type software to function properly, my hackintoshes give me a solid and reliable platform to make, mix and record music on. Open Core has just made it so much easier with its clearly defined guides taking out much of the previous guess work and bodging I experienced with Clover. PS My latest build is a Ryzen 3600 on X570 - perfectly doable and very solid thanks to OpenCore :)
I'm working on a completely different architecture, not Harvard or Von Newman, basically a Wetware, but electronically, and the assembly language to go with it, when finished it will replace everything, and all os manufacturers can remake their os on it, if you make proper use of my ASM&hardware combo, you can have many different Operating systems on it without having to do any partitioning/formatting. My hardware is every component of a common computer all at the same time, and absolutely not a single component. Let my elaborate, the block of circuitry im working on that can fully process the asm language cant do any thing else by its self, my computer does Not have an ALU, this circuit just replicated over as many times as you please on the same bus line, they instruct each other how to work together to the work an ALU can do. So all the bus lines needed for every register to be able to work with the data in any other register... what ever the final count of wires may be. If you just go with that,, that will be the equivalent of the computer only having one thread/core, doesn't matter if you have an unimaginable number of this (unnamed) "repeated circuit" on that bus pair of wires, it's still like one thread, but you duplicate that pair of wires and its like adding another core/thread aka parallel execution. So yeah my design is easily superscalar and supercomputer. With my setup you don't need to upgrade the hardware ever, you upgrade your code on the assembly level. I've made my setup with no serialization, so yes there is a crazy amount of wires, but its quicker, I have also eliminated the need for a clock cycle the assembly language uses a protocol to make up for that. Only reason I really need one is to be able to play audio, so I don't zip through a five minute song in a tenth of a second (lol)
With the strides AMD has been making in recent years, I think X86, and ARM will be side by side for a long time to come, plus China has gotten an X86 license by the way of VIA, and has been using it to develop their own national X86 CPU based on the VIA C7/C9(Nano) architecture, and yes while it's crap by AMD, and Intel standards, it does look promising for helping to keep X86 going. TechYesCity did a video on not that long back, where though some contacts he got his hands on some of the hardware to test. An 8 Core Chinese CPU NOT Made by AMD or INTEL...?! (The Zhaoxin KX-U6780A) czcams.com/video/zqBSJSAmCHQ/video.html
hey chris... i was trying to contact you regarding one of the most weird situation... i am a linux fan and used almost all kind of distro.. but there is a problem.. i use a laptop (HP 15bs-179tx). it came with wimdows 10 v1803. bit i switched to linux... but somehow i was not able to use wifi & bluetooth as the drivers were not loading... i found a was to install the drivers manually till ubuntu 18.04 based distros... it worked... but not in other distros... therefore i had to limit my linux flovour to Ubuntu & ubuntu based distros only.... since ubuntu 20.04 released all drivers gets installed automatically.... in short "i cant use my wifi on any distro except Ubuntu based distros". can you help me with this problem ?? hope to hear from you soon.. and also sorry for typing a story 😅😅
Literally the only reason that Apple is switching to ARM processors is because it's just an architecture that's licensed to other companies to actually manufacture the processors themselves, so in this case giving Apple total control. People that keep on about ARM processors being better because they generate less heat, etc. have totally missed the point. They generate less heat because they are lower-powered and less capable than x86/x64 processors and up until now have only really been seen in the commercial space in mobile devices. They're not meant to replace Intel or AMD but to simply offer another option where the full-blown capabilities of a more powerful processor aren't necessarily. Hell, Apple won't even address their current poor thermal design choices with existing processors so I doubt they're worried about their products producing less heat now all of a sudden.
Well with the way the Hackintosh community describes it?....there's no more Hacking to be done. Once Apple locks up their entire process by using their own silicon? There might not be any place for them to get the drivers, and modules needed to run MacOS on any hardware that's not coming from Apple. And not for nothing?..I run Linux...why would I want to run Apple's crappy OS on ANY of my hardware? As far as I'm concerned, Apple can sit right beside Microsoft's Windows Operating system to collect dust through the years. I'm so done with proprietary operating systems....there's nothing they could offer me to make me EVER go back!
we usually hate Microsoft in Linux videos, but I hate Apple so much more... regarding Apple's quality, there's a great video from Rick Beato: "Apple is good if you like crap"
Noxar they do have some stuff that’s superior. For example most laptop reviewers agree that Apple’s trackpads are the best on the market. Also overall build quality and materials are excellent on all their products.
@@rish4883 I mean I don't think its a scam. I would say their lower tier stuff is a scam like the Mac mini but the iMac 5K and MacBook Pro "15 aren't that bad at all. The issue is for most of us its just not easy to justify spending that much on a computer. As a student I really enjoy my Hackintosh because it gives me plenty of power everything I want and if I need more I can just add another gpu or more ram. However if I would make my money from my computer I would 100% buy a real Mac Pro
@@gainthegrain7399 The only real experience I had with mac os was with hackintosh and I did use it for quite sometime. But most of my friends have a Mac so Ik quite a bit, if it's for professional work I'd say it may not be okay to use hackintosh, but man.. looking at those Mac Pro hardware prices, they charge $2.5k for their 16core xeon and $1.9k+ for 4 tb SSD? Idk what else you can call it other than a scam. I can't think of one reason why people would buy it for anything except the OS.
@Peter Breis How exactly does it fall short? Well anyways in the end operating systems are personal preferences, however good or bad they may be. But everything else speaks for itself.
Based on how Linus Tech Tips covers Hackintosh I think the rule to stay safe is to make it clear that you aren't pirating the OS. On the LTT guide they specifically make mention that they use another mac to legally download the operating system from apple.
A neighbor bought an I phone for a grand. It died completely exactly one day after the warranty expired and Apple would not do anything. He replaced it with an android phone for 25% of the cost. That was his first and last foray into anything from Apple.
Do you really think Big Sur will be the last OS available for the 2019 Mac Pro? Plus they will have more iMacs with intel yet to come. I bet they take 2 years to fully switch and have 8 years of support so probably a full decade until intel support is fully phased out.
They more just go after people showing how to create hackintoshes in detail. Basically, showing the actual running of tools to get it working. The other issue is that, legally, you are required to own a Mac or have purchased a copy of Snow Leopard to use Mac OS X/macOS
I'm not really torn up about this. A decade ago the hackintosh community was people who were in it for the challenge or just wanted off Windows and the only real alternative was MacOS. For those who just want off Windows it's time to evangelize Linux. The past few years have brought distros to a point where almost anyone can install and hit the ground running. If I could get Lightroom and Photoshop on Linux I would probably jump ship completely from MacOS.
The Big Sur beta 1 will boot on a Pinebook pro but no audio, and the graphics are very glitchy. The keyboard and touchpad doesn’t work so you have to use a external usb mouse & keyboard but it’s Wi-Fi card should work if someone would write a KEXT for it since it is a Broadcom card but as of now it doesn’t work. Only native Apple apps will run and nothing else will install but it’s a start. Sure it’s not a 9900k but this could be fun. Pine-Macs!
so let me get this straight. nVidia bought ARM and apple is moving to ARM but apple strictly does not support nVidia? please apple make a pathway to put macos on my devices
I only love MacOS for handling my virtual machines so well. I can always switch between two or three VMs with just a finger swipe on the touch pad or mouse or control-left/right, never "get stuck" in a VM taking all the input so I can only switch with a unergonomic key-combination like under Linux and Windows. It works so well I don't use my second monitor anymore, I just keep looking on the same monitor and swipe half a second with my fingers over the magic mouse and the other desktop is visible. For the rest I prefer Linux.
While yes, ARM can be incredibly impressive, I don’t see them dropping Intel support for a very long time. They still have new Intel machines in the pipeline currently.. I doubt they’d drop support for them in less than five years. I haven’t played with Hackintoshes for.. many years. Clover confused me.. OpenCore has a DYNAMIC guide that had me up and running within a few hours on an old Dell desktop.
Hey Chris, I'm currently going to college for a criminal justice major and hopefully a minor in IT. I want a job doing something in IT in the immediate future and hopefully going out of college. I was looking around but almost every job I found required experience somewhere. I have plenty of knowledge and desire to learn, just no professional experience. What's something I can do to gain experience in the field and hopefully get a job? My job goal for the future is a sysadmin, but I just don't know where to get started. Thanks.
I think the future of hackintosh is virtualisation. I'm running Big Sur on a ryzen 4800u spoofed as core 2 duo in a VM with opencore which is running on Manjaro 😂. I'm completely hiding Manjaro, so it looks like a real hackintosh, only problem are graphics, so I think in future everyone will use VMs cause of qemus compatibility with ARM.
I've been Hackintoshing since 2013 and love the feeling of accomplishment when you get these things working like a "real" Macs. For example, it was fun to build an i7 8770K, 32GB memory Hack before Apple offered one commercially. Like you I'd like to get the Open Core Hackintosh method under my belt and maybe do another build. I too am not sure what the future will bring but I have recently built a Linux machine using old available hardware and hope to become proficient in Linux. Anyway, we all must be ready for the next thing because change is constant and in many ways exciting!
I think it's a bit premature to call this the Rise and Fall of Hackintosh, don't think it has fallen, if anything, the community has never been so active, especially with Open Core pretty much taking over Clover. People behind OC are geniuses, wouldn't be surprised OC supporting intel on ARM architecture. Will be several years (a lot more than a couple) before they drop intel support.
2:40 you mentioned spin-off. But that is not true. Acidanthera team has clearly discouraged folks from purchasing any pre-made toshes, opencore is in no way affiliated. You want to help team acidanthera then just donate what u can directly...no hardware purchase associated whatsoever
I could see two ways forward for the Hackintosh community, 1) a software solution which would allow Apple ARM code to run on intel processors - something like Rosetta 2 in reverse. This would probably take some serious time, effort and talent to achieve and result in a less efficient version of a Mac compared to its ARM counterpart. 2) a hardware solution which requires someone to produce an ARM system/motherboard which is compatible to Apple’s ARM chipset. Again, some serious time, effort and talent would be needed but it’s only hardware and code...
Assuming Apple stop making Intel Macs in 2022, they're still obligated to provide support for the last of them for ~5 years with MacOS updates. That should mean Hackintoshing using the latest version of MacOS should still be viable in 2027, at the earliest.
Arm may be the death of the hackintosh, but I think the lack of a T2 chip will be responsible for the hackintoshs demise a couple of years before Apple discontinues support for Intel based Macs.
this is what people don't get you aren't paying for JUST the hardware, its everything else in between you get on a Mac including there customer service and services you get with every Mac. if your paying JUST for hardware of course it going to be cheaper.
@@praetorxyn That it is, I just don't like the fact that ElementaryOS is based on Ubuntu, as Canonical IMHO has pulled some shady things in the past few years, like wanting to drop all 32bit Lib support breaking many older applications, and video games, then there is the whole Snaps, flatpak, and native application installer debate as of recent. So for me it's Arch based Distros like Manjaro, or more pure Debian based distros like Mint DE(just wish they would give a choice of desktop environment during install).
Commodorefan64 In that case just install Arch with the Pantheon desktop environment 😊 I personally don't like macros (I have a MacBook Air as my only laptop, so I have used it), but I DO prefer the "top bar and dock" layout to the "bottom bar and start menu" layout, so I tend to customize whatever DE I use to look like that.
So i agree with some of what you said, i was always for hackintosh but the maintenance was always a pain in the ass. I have simce moved to a 2012 mac mini, 32gb ram, 2 x1tb ssd and a 2.3ghz i7 and its amazing, i use it for blender, photo editing and some like gopro footage editing and it doesn't struggle, i also paid 1/3 the price of the old hackintosh i built...also it runs Catalina so dont need to move to Arm yet!
I don't really see the point of Hackintosh. If folks want a mac so bad, they should just buy one rather than having a subpar experience. I don't think the prices are that bad for the build quality that you get from Apple and the length of support you get from them. That said, I bought Apples for a number of years, but their operating system really went down hill since its prime in the mid to late 2000s when they started putting all of their focus on the i-devices. It got so bad that I just switched back to Linux and was highly impressed how far it has come as a desktop since I used it in the late 90s and early 2000s. Maybe Apple will refocus on their computers with the switch to ARM-based CPUs, but I don't see myself switching back after having switched to System76 machines. It seems like a lot of people have made that switch in the last couple of years and are very happy that they did.
Just when things look like they are going to go "away"... Someone or a group figures it out lol. I wouldn't say Hackintosh will be phased out more so like Apple's Intel line of computers. I'm really considering a hackintosh. I still have a 2012 MBP and runs smooth, but I want a iMac Pro "system" for music production and everything else I do on my macbook, but without that high ass price tag.
I just happen to have a Z370 with an i5 8400 on the shelf. May give this a try. Got lucky this year in March and bought a working Mac Pro with El Capitan for $100. My first. A Hackintosh would be my second. Thanks for this info and stay safe.
I've hackintoshed over 10 years, still running it on a Intel Nuc i7 as we speak. Honestly...the M1 Mac mini will get me over to a "real" mac i guess. So Apple came at the right moment with the right computer to get me over to Apple camp ..
The golden age of Hackintosh is about to begin. When Intel based Macs are no longer available, this will be the only hardware solution. Of course, it will decline afterwards, unless the community go for a massive decompilation/hybridization project.
*Will they build something into ARM that prevents hacking?* Yes. Yes they will. As for "finding a way" I find that highly unlikely. There are multiple ways an OS update can brick hardware it recognizes as non-Apple. Having said that, I'd imagine Apple wouldn't bother if they deem not many people use Hackintosh. But if they suddenly decide to put their foot down it wouldn't be hard to make every Hackintosh unusable.
Edit: by "they will" I don't mean Apple as obviously this would be in a Hackintosh and hence not something Apple made or controls. I do think it's possible Apple will have proprietary hardware in their SoC/CPU that other desktop chips (once desktop ARM is more of a thing) don't have so it's possible Apple's OS won't even run on non-Apple ARM processors with or without hacks.
Linus Tech Tips has made a couple different AMD Ryzen Hackentosh including a Threadripper. They actually did the threadripper build to show how Apple could have built a more powerful system for less then their very expensive Xeon based system.
Virtualization is the future. Even today virtualized Mac OS is way more convenient that native installation on non-Apple hardware. You can for example use Ryzen CPUs without any issues. Linus Tech Tips did a video about this. The only real problem with virtualization is that you need a dedicated Mac OS compatible second GPU to pass through into virtual machine. Going full ARM by Apple might be even beneficial for hackintosh community. They will abandon native installation and instead focus on emulation. Decades of console emulation showed that it's totally legal to emulate a hardware if you just own the needed ROMs. In theory it could be done, by extracting ROMs from broken Macs. Even if Apple decides to check for correct serial numbers when accessing online services. Such S/N could be also extracted from real Macs. That way broken Macs will keep relatively high price on second hand market. It can go the same road CEMU went. People behind it got so much support on Patreon that Wii U emulation is now near perfect. Way better than anyone expected or even needed. We can even expect running virtualized Mac OS on a Raspberry Pi's or other ARM based computers. That would really boost their popularity. Mac OS virtualization is nothing new. Good old Amiga community used Mac OS as a source for more recent software on Amiga. Running Mac OS was the biggest reason for PPC accelerator cards to exist for Amiga. This gave Amiga access to modern software like internet browsers, office tools, etc. Amiga was so close to Mac ecosystem that in the end. Some Amiga operating systems become compatible with PPC Macs. I remember that it was even recommended to buy old PPC Mac Minis as a low-cost way to run Amiga PPC software. This is why going with ARM won't be the end of non-Apple hardware for Mac OS. Unless Apple will totally lock their software with some hardware encryption. It is possible, but I think even Apple knows that hackintosh community is beneficial for them.
So, let me get this straight, Apple releases a killer Mac Pro two or three years before it plans to get rid of support for it entirely? Somehow that does not seem like a smart move for them. I think they will need to keep compatibility going for at least the next 5 years for those customers to remain happy.
I will be there to watch the battle between Apple and Open Core. One end is motivated by pure tinkering and a bit of anger towards Apple's policies, and the other end is motivated purely by profit for its shareholders. I hope this confrontation lives up to its billing fr. I am betting that a bunch of tinkerers can beat Apple at their own game...
I’ve built nearly 8 hacks, and two with OpenCore. It’s night and day compared to using clover or chimera. My recent laptop and desktop upgraded from Catalina to Big Sur using the App Store, and Intel and BT work just fine. A lot has happened in a month.
Hackintosh Playlist - czcams.com/play/PLc7fktTRMBoz2GkiaFbX1CDLU9___W14c.html
Hackintosh Ryzen Install - www.christitus.com/hackintosh-ryzen-install/
Looks like we may be able to still build Hackintosh computers. Someone leaked an AMD ARM processor in the works. AMD Ryzen C7 SoC. www.cnx-software.com/2020/06/01/amd-ryzen-c7-arm-cortex-x1-a78-a55-processor-mediatek-5g-modem-leak/
please make old laptop hackintosh video and post on LBRY or your website...I have 3rd gen dell laptop but there are a lot of issues...
What about Jackintosh?
KVM is the way to go
@@jamesm5192 do you have a comprehensive kvm hackintosh installation guide link?
“When there’s a will, there’s a way” heheh when you said that I grinned, so true
I've found this to be so true with computers.
8:06 ummmm you need to do you research mate AMD RYzen processors are fully supported on OpenCore I am on a RyzenTOsh right now. you don't need an intel machine any more to do a Hackintosh.
not in all the software thou
Ummmm
It'll be a lot harder to build an ARM based Hackintosh, though I can imagine someone hacking macOS to run on the Raspberry Pi and adapt from there for other ARM SBCs!
So exit the Hackintosh, enter the Apple Pi?
Seriously though, if Apple decided to release a Raspberry Pi style ARM based SBC, Apple Pi would be an awesome name!
The raspberry Pi is probably too weak but if you use a Nvidia Jetson Xavier NX dev, the performance should be enough. It is 500 bucks, though.
If apples switching to arm they’re gonna do it right. Everything’s gonna be secure, there’s no way they’ll allow it to run in anything other than apple silicon. New macs are gonna be more powerful ipads, and we don't see anyone running iPadOS on raspberry Pi.
DUUDE did no-one notice Apple Pi(e)?! Nice one!
@Bob Landers "ARM only works for Android and some Linux Distros."
So these romours about Apple switching to ARM are false...
...and the iPhone doesn't run on ARM.
Neither macOS nor iOS are Android nor are they any Linux dstro.
@Bob Landers There already is Windows on ARM and Apple confirmed they will be switching to ARM in all their products.
Hey Titus, you should cover hackintosh in a separate channel! That way you don't risk this one.
When it comes to channel strikes of that nature, they will find all your channels and remove them, so creating a channel like that would put this channel at risk.
@@PenguinRevolution how so ?
@@fgfgfgfgf2919 They know your name and what you look like, it's not hard to find you alternate channels
Just download the risky videos.
@@PenguinRevolution that would be really easy to defend against.
This guy is an excellent host, the way he presents the ideas, clear accent, the speed he talks, and outline of the video are just right, and he does this with little or no editing.
Back in the day we used to call them the Macintrash :)
nothing changed
Back when they were using the Power-Puss-ee with the "New more-powerful G-whiz processor!" LOL
@@prague5419 lol.. power puss-eee
So cool :D very interesting info.
I used to call them Crapintosh
I really love your videos. I left Windows and went with Linux after been influenced. And I am happy cause I am now better at programming and hacking. Thank you for your videos.
Love from Nepal
Thank you for the comment! It always warms my heart to see someone expanding their knowledge and bettering themself.
Sabsey dami Linux kun ho
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Bro, there is nothing like best Linux distro. Linux itself is powerful and everything is pretty much customizable. Choose the distro you are comfortable at.
7:56 WRONG. You can have a hackintosh with a threadripper with 32c/64c. Opencore is giving you a way to install an all amd hackintosh as clean as with intel cpus. So you wrong there!
@nth gates But not that many. Could you give me examples?
@nth gates I use those programs except for Wine. Any known problems with Ryzen?
@nth gates ok thank you for the info. I guess I’ll stick to my 2012 Mac Mini for Ableton. Still works great!
@nth gates Thats a good point lol... AMD is just so exciting right now
Thank to you Chris I switched to Linux on all my home computers and even on my work laptop. Life is great again!
Honestly I'm all for ARM taking over on the laptop space. I'd love to see ARM laptops that could be impossibly thin, no fans, massive battery life, etc.
You have to admit, X86 is a beast of a platform these days.
Things like the PineBook Pro intrest me a lot since i love small laptops that pack a punch for a cheap price.
and I'd love to see Linux ARM adoption get much better as a result of the ARM switchover.
one thing i want apple to do is to combine their MacOS and iPadOS together so when you're in ipad mode you've got that ipad interface, but you put it on the keyboard cover, it becomes a full mac computer. I hope they do that down the line.
I mean the high end phones these days could easily compare to a laptop in performance these days. I don't see why windows/Linux/mac couldn't harness that power and get massive batteries or massive battery life out of them, or both.
I know I might not be the popular vote, but i have to say from apple's perspective, it makes perfect sense.
One more thing... I would love it if apple still built in bootcamp to allow you to install ARM linux/Windows. that would be neat, but knowing apple, they'll probably lock it out.
and one other possibility i see happening, is a huge shift toward ARM laptops. You've already seen this happen with apple removing the headphone jack and offering a wireless headset as a replacement to the loss, why not ARM laptops running windows or linux.
Agree 100% Jess, the space definitely needs ARM. I'd love for people to take the new ARM hardware and do other things with it. I am going to buy one just to load Linux on it and see how it runs.
@@ChrisTitusTech i heard the PBP is a great little laptop for $200
@@ChrisTitusTech as we see, the ARM processors have almost entirely dominated the SBC market because they're relatively cheap and don't produce as much heat negating the need for a fan. I'd like to see ARM laptops rise.
@@ChrisTitusTech Linux world also has to up their game regarding ARM. Manjaro ARM team has been working really hard to get it to run on ARM platforms but there are a lot of them and it's not a one build runs on all of them state. They're not getting much support either. Thankfully Pine worked with them and we have the lovely Pinebook Pro but it's the exception, not the rule. For example, Fedora plain out states they won't bother working on something as common & widespread as raspberry pi.
it makes sense to use ARM on laptops, ao eventually it will happen, but to be honest i'm not a fan of ARM, as i usually use heavy desktop PCs, ARM in desktop will suck.
I had so many years problem with Windows especially PC building. Windows pretty much robbed my precious productivity time just to troubleshoot.
Once I got iMac in 2013, my productivity increase and never worried about anything but focus to work. This iMac will still working for another 4 years.
That's how good Mac is.
ARM architecture allow for proprietary extensions to the CPU, I suspect that apple will incorporate extensions to not only prevent hackintoshes but also running Linux on these machines.
Apple already demo'd running ARM Linux on the ARM Macs.
@@peterscott2662 under virtualization
They already locked it out with the T2 chip. I don't see how the extensions would block it though. The real problem would be fuses and a signing key in mask ROM.
Apple's prices and policies are why I would never buy anything from Apple.
I'm a linux / windows user myself. I bought a mac air to build mac/ios apps a while back. Apple is 20 years ahead in app development tool chains compared to Android. Their main selling point is for developer companies both in software and design. Prices are off the rails of course.
That’s your problem if you want to ever develop mobile apps a Mac machine is mandatory for Apple shipping
Most google engineers today used Macs for a reason
JAMES AZBELL Yes, but Google and other big companies have lots of money, not only to spend, but lose if they get their networks compromised.
Macs are based directly off of FreeBSD, which is more pure than Linux due to all the distributions that exist.
Ryzen work so well on opencore.
You can install on a Ryzen system, you can install on all Ryzen system... So easy.. One EFI to rule them all (Easier than using Intel actually).
Awesome stuff glad to find the channel!!
Z97 ASUS Radeon 580 . How do I fix the IGPU display. Two things are happening, on the Mac side it does not recognize two separate displays (tried several different. Displays). When I add the Radeon, the igpu freezes with boot script while the Radeon displays five screens with one being pink. All are 27 displays with no weird adapters. Please advise
So if someone make an hackintosh on raspberry Pi, will it be called apple pi ?
hahahaha brilliant LOL
pine apple pen
OS X on Raspberry Pi? To me it sounds like a pineApple PIzza ;-)
One small point to bring up. Those OpenCore computers being sold did not actually spin off of the OpenCore project. There merely tacked on the name and the people of the OpenCore project are unhappy about it. I heard that the computer website is no longer working, so it might have been the scam many have suspected it of being.
Once windows start going main stream with arm. Wont the chances of hackentosh be more likely ?
We have a ARM computer it’s called Raspberry pi
Also phones, tablets and Windows on ARM/Chrome OS laptops, but no proper powerful desktop ones
Isn't Qualcomm a lot faster than Cortex? Problem is they don't sell the chips to anyone but OEMs. RPIs are great but it's a whole other market.
I'm curious what's the graphics card support like though? Nvidia drivers are bad on x86 Linux, I can only imagine it's worse on Arm. AMD might be better but I imagine you'd have to compile the drivers yourself.
Man, I love your videos because you talk a about everything. Linux, windows, MacOs. Great tips about all systems.
Shoutout to everyone watching this on macOS running on non-Apple hardware
I'm pretty sure we will be able to build a Hackintosh even on the arm, running inside a VM of course, an ARM emulator for X86 / X64 won't be that hard to build
I remember the early days of the Hackinstosh when there were no such installers. Those all were pre-packaged systems and each upgrade caused some problems.
You also needed to manually copy the "mach_kernel" for the necessary system when needed. Usually I ended up upgrading the system, but leaving the same kernel version. Man, this was all crazy.
I built one in 2011 and am haunted by what a pain in the ass it was. Are you telling me it’s not gonna be as bad if I try to do a new one here soon?!
@@thespinoffpodcast I gave up Hackintosh thoughts and considering that Apple is leaving x86 I would assume that it has not more than 3-4 years of support left. But the installers seem to be much easier than before.
Personally, I won't bother with this. I would just buy old Mac Pro, upgrade it and use it with dosDude patch.
So, no Hackintosh for me. I had so much pain with those in the past and I really don't want to mess around with it even if it became easier.
this aged like milk
HE MENTIONED THE ROSS MAN!
hello why cant mac os (the original) mac os be installed onto a pc or laptop?????? thanks. is it because it wont work?? thanks.
Still like my old Dell Mini-10v running Snow Leopard flawlessly. Retro Hackintosh at its finest.
Really looking forward to this! I love my Hackintosh!
Can you help me build a hackintosh? I'll pay for your asitance! 😅
@@worldchannel8217 Sorry no, but you may want to check out the channel Technolli, he has some really great guides for almost any build!
Interesting video! In past videos, you mention your dislike for the macOS UI, yet you're interested in getting macOS running on non-Apple hardware. :) In any event, it was interesting to watch! Thanks for posting!
I think I just enjoy a good challenge. That and I'm tired of not having my own macOS to feature in videos like the OS comparison video.
First video of yours I've watched...the fact that you have a monitor in the background scrolling the Matrix code makes me happy. Back in the day (circa 2004) I had three 19" CRT monster monitors running the Matrix Code Emulator screensaver...it was super awesome.
great content, i have successfully got hackintosh nitro 5 i5th laptop perfect, wifi bluetooth trackpad and gpu, no need to replace hardware
Macs are basically ... an OK OS, wrapped up in a pretty package, with mediocre hardware, and then you’re charged like double what you should pay for that hardware ... in a nutshell :-)
Heh, double he says.
Technolli is a great Hackintosh Channel
I use arch and love it but I just realized now my computer is perfect for Mac os. 8700k, z370, and amd rx580. Might give it a try.
I just finished mine yesterday. Opencore. Ryzen 9. 3950x. 16 cores 32 threads. 32gb of ram. 2tb NVME SSD and 10tb hard drive. With Radeon RX 5700 8gb running Catalina and matching a MacPro Late 2019 with 16 cores.
Nice! I have a similar setup but I’m afraid to update to macOS Big Sur 😬
I haven’t watched the video yet.. but like. Is hackintosh the actual mac os on pc or is it pc made to look like mac?
would it be hard to build a ryzen hackintosh with dual boot? or triple boot?
but wat m saying is a 2020 apple computer is intel right, which means it will get updates for at least for 7 yrs. from apple which also means the updates or firmwares which apple releases for the next 7 yrs. will be compatible with intel processors too right, this means hackintosh is still goin to be there for the next 7 yrs.
Love Hackintosh, build one using cameleon about 13 years ago but got to a point it wouldn't update and ended up crashing while using Kodi, lol ... will try to build another one soon. Love your videos and your knowledge... thank you for your work..
Open Core is a fantastic project and what makes it stand out for me, in a fairly long history of hackintoshing, is the superb documentation at dortania. I bought my first Mac in '92 because I wanted to design and print my own business leaflets and someone told me they were easier to work with than regular PC's - given that at the time a common perception was that only really, really clever people knew how to operate computers, (and I knew I wasn't!) this was a huge selling point! That and 12 months interest free credit!
For a long time Apple managed to find a sensible balance between aesthetics and engineering, despite, rather than because of Jobs' obsessions, and I frequently gave away my 5 year old Macs to friends and family, who would use them for another five years - I have Macs from the early 2000's that still work perfectly well, without being much use to anyone other than the Lundukes of the world ;)
My point is that overcharging for guaranteed quality of components and longevity wasn't a problem for me - overcharging for poor design and components is just unconscionable and I stopped buying their products a decade ago. For everyday computing Linux DE is great, but as I've spent the last 20 odd years collecting bits of audio related outboard gear, a lot of which needs bespoke control panel type software to function properly, my hackintoshes give me a solid and reliable platform to make, mix and record music on. Open Core has just made it so much easier with its clearly defined guides taking out much of the previous guess work and bodging I experienced with Clover.
PS My latest build is a Ryzen 3600 on X570 - perfectly doable and very solid thanks to OpenCore :)
Why not just use Linux with mac frontend?
Thanks for the video!
I'm working on a completely different architecture, not Harvard or Von Newman, basically a Wetware, but electronically, and the assembly language to go with it, when finished it will replace everything, and all os manufacturers can remake their os on it, if you make proper use of my ASM&hardware combo, you can have many different Operating systems on it without having to do any partitioning/formatting.
My hardware is every component of a common computer all at the same time, and absolutely not a single component. Let my elaborate, the block of circuitry im working on that can fully process the asm language cant do any thing else by its self, my computer does Not have an ALU, this circuit just replicated over as many times as you please on the same bus line, they instruct each other how to work together to the work an ALU can do.
So all the bus lines needed for every register to be able to work with the data in any other register... what ever the final count of wires may be. If you just go with that,, that will be the equivalent of the computer only having one thread/core, doesn't matter if you have an unimaginable number of this (unnamed) "repeated circuit" on that bus pair of wires, it's still like one thread, but you duplicate that pair of wires and its like adding another core/thread aka parallel execution.
So yeah my design is easily superscalar and supercomputer. With my setup you don't need to upgrade the hardware ever, you upgrade your code on the assembly level.
I've made my setup with no serialization, so yes there is a crazy amount of wires, but its quicker, I have also eliminated the need for a clock cycle the assembly language uses a protocol to make up for that. Only reason I really need one is to be able to play audio, so I don't zip through a five minute song in a tenth of a second (lol)
Is ARM going to replace X86 on desktop PC if Apple succeed in the future?
With the strides AMD has been making in recent years, I think X86, and ARM will be side by side for a long time to come, plus China has gotten an X86 license by the way of VIA, and has been using it to develop their own national X86 CPU based on the VIA C7/C9(Nano) architecture, and yes while it's crap by AMD, and Intel standards, it does look promising for helping to keep X86 going. TechYesCity did a video on not that long back, where though some contacts he got his hands on some of the hardware to test.
An 8 Core Chinese CPU NOT Made by AMD or INTEL...?! (The Zhaoxin KX-U6780A)
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hey chris... i was trying to contact you regarding one of the most weird situation...
i am a linux fan and used almost all kind of distro.. but there is a problem.. i use a laptop (HP 15bs-179tx). it came with wimdows 10 v1803. bit i switched to linux... but somehow i was not able to use wifi & bluetooth as the drivers were not loading... i found a was to install the drivers manually till ubuntu 18.04 based distros... it worked... but not in other distros... therefore i had to limit my linux flovour to Ubuntu & ubuntu based distros only.... since ubuntu 20.04 released all drivers gets installed automatically.... in short "i cant use my wifi on any distro except Ubuntu based distros". can you help me with this problem ?? hope to hear from you soon..
and also sorry for typing a story 😅😅
Literally the only reason that Apple is switching to ARM processors is because it's just an architecture that's licensed to other companies to actually manufacture the processors themselves, so in this case giving Apple total control. People that keep on about ARM processors being better because they generate less heat, etc. have totally missed the point. They generate less heat because they are lower-powered and less capable than x86/x64 processors and up until now have only really been seen in the commercial space in mobile devices. They're not meant to replace Intel or AMD but to simply offer another option where the full-blown capabilities of a more powerful processor aren't necessarily. Hell, Apple won't even address their current poor thermal design choices with existing processors so I doubt they're worried about their products producing less heat now all of a sudden.
Well with the way the Hackintosh community describes it?....there's no more Hacking to be done. Once Apple locks up their entire process by using their own silicon? There might not be any place for them to get the drivers, and modules needed to run MacOS on any hardware that's not coming from Apple. And not for nothing?..I run Linux...why would I want to run Apple's crappy OS on ANY of my hardware? As far as I'm concerned, Apple can sit right beside Microsoft's Windows Operating system to collect dust through the years. I'm so done with proprietary operating systems....there's nothing they could offer me to make me EVER go back!
I'm the same. Ubuntu Studio is also an awesome OS for creative people.
we usually hate Microsoft in Linux videos, but I hate Apple so much more...
regarding Apple's quality, there's a great video from Rick Beato: "Apple is good if you like crap"
Apple surely offers one of the best product quality, it's one of the points that we can't blame them for
@@hisakiyo7172 Absolutely not, as Chris said, check out Louis Rosmann and his most popular videos.
I hate Apple Software.....Look in MacOS you cannot hide your neighbor SSID in the drop down wifi list like dafuq? (Hello network shell)
Noxar they do have some stuff that’s superior. For example most laptop reviewers agree that Apple’s trackpads are the best on the market. Also overall build quality and materials are excellent on all their products.
It always seems to be forgotten that people don't buy Apple for the hardware, they buy it for the status and the ecosystem.
@Tronam Maybe it works for you, but apple is still a scam.
@@rish4883 I mean I don't think its a scam. I would say their lower tier stuff is a scam like the Mac mini but the iMac 5K and MacBook Pro "15 aren't that bad at all. The issue is for most of us its just not easy to justify spending that much on a computer. As a student I really enjoy my Hackintosh because it gives me plenty of power everything I want and if I need more I can just add another gpu or more ram. However if I would make my money from my computer I would 100% buy a real Mac Pro
@@gainthegrain7399 The only real experience I had with mac os was with hackintosh and I did use it for quite sometime. But most of my friends have a Mac so Ik quite a bit, if it's for professional work I'd say it may not be okay to use hackintosh, but man.. looking at those Mac Pro hardware prices, they charge $2.5k for their 16core xeon and $1.9k+ for 4 tb SSD? Idk what else you can call it other than a scam. I can't think of one reason why people would buy it for anything except the OS.
@Peter Breis How exactly does it fall short?
Well anyways in the end operating systems are personal preferences, however good or bad they may be.
But everything else speaks for itself.
Rishabh Sharma He means PCs aren’t restrictive enough to suit his taste.
Writing this for a Hackintosh with a Ryzen CPU. Works fine.
Nice video dude, best thing about Hackintosh I think is that you can get very good performance on a budget
Based on how Linus Tech Tips covers Hackintosh I think the rule to stay safe is to make it clear that you aren't pirating the OS. On the LTT guide they specifically make mention that they use another mac to legally download the operating system from apple.
A neighbor bought an I phone for a grand. It died completely exactly one day after the warranty expired and Apple would not do anything. He replaced it with an android phone for 25% of the cost. That was his first and last foray into anything from Apple.
Top most favourite channel in my mind is this channel
Do you really think Big Sur will be the last OS available for the 2019 Mac Pro? Plus they will have more iMacs with intel yet to come. I bet they take 2 years to fully switch and have 8 years of support so probably a full decade until intel support is fully phased out.
Anyone find a workaround for RTX 20 series cards and hackintosh?
They more just go after people showing how to create hackintoshes in detail. Basically, showing the actual running of tools to get it working. The other issue is that, legally, you are required to own a Mac or have purchased a copy of Snow Leopard to use Mac OS X/macOS
I'm not really torn up about this. A decade ago the hackintosh community was people who were in it for the challenge or just wanted off Windows and the only real alternative was MacOS. For those who just want off Windows it's time to evangelize Linux. The past few years have brought distros to a point where almost anyone can install and hit the ground running. If I could get Lightroom and Photoshop on Linux I would probably jump ship completely from MacOS.
The Big Sur beta 1 will boot on a Pinebook pro but no audio, and the graphics are very glitchy. The keyboard and touchpad doesn’t work so you have to use a external usb mouse & keyboard but it’s Wi-Fi card should work if someone would write a KEXT for it since it is a Broadcom card but as of now it doesn’t work. Only native Apple apps will run and nothing else will install but it’s a start. Sure it’s not a 9900k but this could be fun. Pine-Macs!
After installing Hackinstosh i got bored, you cant play games on it, so i formatted my pc and installed Linux on it instead.
so let me get this straight. nVidia bought ARM and apple is moving to ARM but apple strictly does not support nVidia? please apple make a pathway to put macos on my devices
I only love MacOS for handling my virtual machines so well. I can always switch between two or three VMs with just a finger swipe on the touch pad or mouse or control-left/right, never "get stuck" in a VM taking all the input so I can only switch with a unergonomic key-combination like under Linux and Windows. It works so well I don't use my second monitor anymore, I just keep looking on the same monitor and swipe half a second with my fingers over the magic mouse and the other desktop is visible. For the rest I prefer Linux.
You can post them on lbry. I bet they would have an audience.
While yes, ARM can be incredibly impressive, I don’t see them dropping Intel support for a very long time. They still have new Intel machines in the pipeline currently.. I doubt they’d drop support for them in less than five years. I haven’t played with Hackintoshes for.. many years. Clover confused me.. OpenCore has a DYNAMIC guide that had me up and running within a few hours on an old Dell desktop.
Just use windows or linux. Why to go for mac os.
Hey Chris, I'm currently going to college for a criminal justice major and hopefully a minor in IT. I want a job doing something in IT in the immediate future and hopefully going out of college. I was looking around but almost every job I found required experience somewhere.
I have plenty of knowledge and desire to learn, just no professional experience. What's something I can do to gain experience in the field and hopefully get a job? My job goal for the future is a sysadmin, but I just don't know where to get started. Thanks.
Let me guess
It was in your recommended videos
Home feed, but close enough
@@markusTegelane Yeah me too
I think the future of hackintosh is virtualisation. I'm running Big Sur on a ryzen 4800u spoofed as core 2 duo in a VM with opencore which is running on Manjaro 😂. I'm completely hiding Manjaro, so it looks like a real hackintosh, only problem are graphics, so I think in future everyone will use VMs cause of qemus compatibility with ARM.
I've been Hackintoshing since 2013 and love the feeling of accomplishment when you get these things working like a "real" Macs. For example, it was fun to build an i7 8770K, 32GB memory Hack before Apple offered one commercially. Like you I'd like to get the Open Core Hackintosh method under my belt and maybe do another build. I too am not sure what the future will bring but I have recently built a Linux machine using old available hardware and hope to become proficient in Linux. Anyway, we all must be ready for the next thing because change is constant and in many ways exciting!
Why would you get copyright strikes.
I think it's a bit premature to call this the Rise and Fall of Hackintosh, don't think it has fallen, if anything, the community has never been so active, especially with Open Core pretty much taking over Clover. People behind OC are geniuses, wouldn't be surprised OC supporting intel on ARM architecture. Will be several years (a lot more than a couple) before they drop intel support.
2:40 you mentioned spin-off. But that is not true. Acidanthera team has clearly discouraged folks from purchasing any pre-made toshes, opencore is in no way affiliated. You want to help team acidanthera then just donate what u can directly...no hardware purchase associated whatsoever
can u install opencore on legacy bios system ?
I could see two ways forward for the Hackintosh community,
1) a software solution which would allow Apple ARM code to run on intel processors - something like Rosetta 2 in reverse. This would probably take some serious time, effort and talent to achieve and result in a less efficient version of a Mac compared to its ARM counterpart.
2) a hardware solution which requires someone to produce an ARM system/motherboard which is compatible to Apple’s ARM chipset. Again, some serious time, effort and talent would be needed but it’s only hardware and code...
Assuming Apple stop making Intel Macs in 2022, they're still obligated to provide support for the last of them for ~5 years with MacOS updates. That should mean Hackintoshing using the latest version of MacOS should still be viable in 2027, at the earliest.
Various countries making a Hackintosh...
Colombia: crackintosh,
Mongolia: Yakintosh.
Kazakhstan: Boratintosh
Vatican: Popeintosh
Canada: puckintosh
I'm Colombian and that was funny.
WHAT about singel bord computer thay are ARM computers like the rassbarry pi 8 gb for the new ARM mac's
hey man I am a fan of your channel and i wanted to ask you a question is an upgraded 2010 imac still useful today?
Arm may be the death of the hackintosh, but I think the lack of a T2 chip will be responsible for the hackintoshs demise a couple of years before Apple discontinues support for Intel based Macs.
Huh, I hadn't considered that ARM would be the end of Hackintoshes. Nice insight.
this is what people don't get you aren't paying for JUST the hardware, its everything else in between you get on a Mac including there customer service and services you get with every Mac. if your paying JUST for hardware of course it going to be cheaper.
Hackintosh people really should just embrace Linux going forward.
Ehhhh I love Linux but honestly I like MacOS a smidge more.
@@JoshDoingLinux ElementaryOS is basically a macOS clone UI wise.
@@praetorxyn That it is, I just don't like the fact that ElementaryOS is based on Ubuntu, as Canonical IMHO has pulled some shady things in the past few years, like wanting to drop all 32bit Lib support breaking many older applications, and video games, then there is the whole Snaps, flatpak, and native application installer debate as of recent. So for me it's Arch based Distros like Manjaro, or more pure Debian based distros like Mint DE(just wish they would give a choice of desktop environment during install).
Commodorefan64 In that case just install Arch with the Pantheon desktop environment 😊
I personally don't like macros (I have a MacBook Air as my only laptop, so I have used it), but I DO prefer the "top bar and dock" layout to the "bottom bar and start menu" layout, so I tend to customize whatever DE I use to look like that.
Or just any FOSS, privacy respecting OS like FreeBSD
So i agree with some of what you said, i was always for hackintosh but the maintenance was always a pain in the ass. I have simce moved to a 2012 mac mini, 32gb ram, 2 x1tb ssd and a 2.3ghz i7 and its amazing, i use it for blender, photo editing and some like gopro footage editing and it doesn't struggle, i also paid 1/3 the price of the old hackintosh i built...also it runs Catalina so dont need to move to Arm yet!
02:48 so, apple is basically the Nintendo of personal computers? okeh.
I don't really see the point of Hackintosh. If folks want a mac so bad, they should just buy one rather than having a subpar experience. I don't think the prices are that bad for the build quality that you get from Apple and the length of support you get from them. That said, I bought Apples for a number of years, but their operating system really went down hill since its prime in the mid to late 2000s when they started putting all of their focus on the i-devices. It got so bad that I just switched back to Linux and was highly impressed how far it has come as a desktop since I used it in the late 90s and early 2000s. Maybe Apple will refocus on their computers with the switch to ARM-based CPUs, but I don't see myself switching back after having switched to System76 machines. It seems like a lot of people have made that switch in the last couple of years and are very happy that they did.
Windows 10 ARM. Who's gonna write the drivers, though?
Just when things look like they are going to go "away"... Someone or a group figures it out lol. I wouldn't say Hackintosh will be phased out more so like Apple's Intel line of computers. I'm really considering a hackintosh. I still have a 2012 MBP and runs smooth, but I want a iMac Pro "system" for music production and everything else I do on my macbook, but without that high ass price tag.
I just happen to have a Z370 with an i5 8400 on the shelf. May give this a try. Got lucky this year in March and bought a working Mac Pro with El Capitan for $100. My first. A Hackintosh would be my second. Thanks for this info and stay safe.
I've hackintoshed over 10 years, still running it on a Intel Nuc i7 as we speak. Honestly...the M1 Mac mini will get me over to a "real" mac i guess. So Apple came at the right moment with the right computer to get me over to Apple camp ..
The golden age of Hackintosh is about to begin. When Intel based Macs are no longer available, this will be the only hardware solution. Of course, it will decline afterwards, unless the community go for a massive decompilation/hybridization project.
Is it possible to develop iOS apps on Linux?
*Will they build something into ARM that prevents hacking?*
Yes. Yes they will. As for "finding a way" I find that highly unlikely. There are multiple ways an OS update can brick hardware it recognizes as non-Apple. Having said that, I'd imagine Apple wouldn't bother if they deem not many people use Hackintosh. But if they suddenly decide to put their foot down it wouldn't be hard to make every Hackintosh unusable.
Edit: by "they will" I don't mean Apple as obviously this would be in a Hackintosh and hence not something Apple made or controls. I do think it's possible Apple will have proprietary hardware in their SoC/CPU that other desktop chips (once desktop ARM is more of a thing) don't have so it's possible Apple's OS won't even run on non-Apple ARM processors with or without hacks.
Linus Tech Tips has made a couple different AMD Ryzen Hackentosh including a Threadripper. They actually did the threadripper build to show how Apple could have built a more powerful system for less then their very expensive Xeon based system.
watching this on Big Sur Beta 1 Ryzen Hackintosh...
Do you have a video on your desktop an which Linux you run
Virtualization is the future. Even today virtualized Mac OS is way more convenient that native installation on non-Apple hardware. You can for example use Ryzen CPUs without any issues. Linus Tech Tips did a video about this.
The only real problem with virtualization is that you need a dedicated Mac OS compatible second GPU to pass through into virtual machine.
Going full ARM by Apple might be even beneficial for hackintosh community. They will abandon native installation and instead focus on emulation. Decades of console emulation showed that it's totally legal to emulate a hardware if you just own the needed ROMs. In theory it could be done, by extracting ROMs from broken Macs. Even if Apple decides to check for correct serial numbers when accessing online services. Such S/N could be also extracted from real Macs. That way broken Macs will keep relatively high price on second hand market.
It can go the same road CEMU went. People behind it got so much support on Patreon that Wii U emulation is now near perfect. Way better than anyone expected or even needed.
We can even expect running virtualized Mac OS on a Raspberry Pi's or other ARM based computers. That would really boost their popularity.
Mac OS virtualization is nothing new. Good old Amiga community used Mac OS as a source for more recent software on Amiga. Running Mac OS was the biggest reason for PPC accelerator cards to exist for Amiga. This gave Amiga access to modern software like internet browsers, office tools, etc.
Amiga was so close to Mac ecosystem that in the end. Some Amiga operating systems become compatible with PPC Macs. I remember that it was even recommended to buy old PPC Mac Minis as a low-cost way to run Amiga PPC software.
This is why going with ARM won't be the end of non-Apple hardware for Mac OS. Unless Apple will totally lock their software with some hardware encryption. It is possible, but I think even Apple knows that hackintosh community is beneficial for them.
So, let me get this straight, Apple releases a killer Mac Pro two or three years before it plans to get rid of support for it entirely? Somehow that does not seem like a smart move for them. I think they will need to keep compatibility going for at least the next 5 years for those customers to remain happy.
I will be there to watch the battle between Apple and Open Core. One end is motivated by pure tinkering and a bit of anger towards Apple's policies, and the other end is motivated purely by profit for its shareholders. I hope this confrontation lives up to its billing fr. I am betting that a bunch of tinkerers can beat Apple at their own game...
I can't help it, Hackintosh still sounds like getting Linux to work on a regular OEM PC from the early 2000's.
Exactly... specific hardware to work and wifi is a mess except for about two models.
Correct, but if you got past that, you will have computer with MacOS on it, instead of Linux. Big difference.
I’ve built nearly 8 hacks, and two with OpenCore. It’s night and day compared to using clover or chimera. My recent laptop and desktop upgraded from Catalina to Big Sur using the App Store, and Intel and BT work just fine.
A lot has happened in a month.