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@@CLOYO I could say the same thing for you
@@itzkhalizisreal I could say the same thing for you
@@DangermuffinVD I could say the same for me?
And compained worst of both world XD
Imagine having so little confidence to not be able to recognize that BigSurface is an S-tier name for their project. The developers gotta own that name.
Damn right, it's like getting something right the first time but scrapping it due to perfectionism
I feel like the P.S. was rhetorical.
@@elephystry Could be, yeah
@@RadikAlice oh my gosh. I’m a friend of Blahaj too! My real name is Alice!
@@elephystry Sweet! Though my real name is Alicia, still the same name though, just a different language's variation
IIRC, the reason for Russian as the default language in OpenCore's sample config is that it forces the user to actually read the Dortania guide in order to learn how to set it to English (and then, perhaps, the user will read the rest as well, thereby being able to solve 90% of problems)
That's smart
Except for Russian users I guess
@@mkontent Да, как-то не очень помогло)
@@alansteyrbach6926 Пожалуй соглашусь, хехе😂
@@crawlhatch Шутки над дураками У меня есть гугл-переводчик.
Minor correction: while force touch was discontinued on iPhones and Apple Watches, they still exist on modern Mac trackpads. You can click down with a normal amount of pressure, and then click harder for a further click which is what your clicks were being read as at first.
I'm on a macbook 2019 and I just tried this and had no idea it existed
@@bungsbodulus I have a 2021 model, but the same for me no idea it existed
I recently got an M2 Air last week (first mac experience ever) and this was the first thing I noticed
I was googling when I got it, wondering why I can click twice on the trackpad
How did the other 2 people who've replied to you not know about force touch haha
I actually use this feature - but mostly only as a shortcut for what is otherwise accessible as CMD + Click in IntelliJ and PyCharm. I used CMD + Click enough that finding out Force Click does the same thing was actually kind of nice - but wholly unnecessary.
Despite the hate, this is one of my favourite features for finding word definitions on safari/reading academic articles! Use it all the time.
I love how Matt just is realistic I feel his frustration and the method he uses to tackle the issue is fascinating
Yeah i really love how he shows all the hardships he encounters during his projects
I love how he, even in the worst situations and under the pressure of his own mistakes keep continuing his project. Like he’s not even cutting his mistakes, he does a new take and explaining it!
Almost as if he's a real human being who exists
@@UChS4Dq15wHu8vkvWsaLzvPg damn i thought he was just an ai
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I've been in this scene for over a decade. These days, I have MacOS running on a Dell XPS 15 with full touchscreen working on MacOS, along with a Dell T1700 PC that runs an iMessage AirMessage server so I can get iMessage and Facetime on Android. It's a fun yet challenging hobby.
Teach me your ways
Had a dude at college run Hackintosh on his Lenovo Yogabook, and it failed on him, causing him to lose a bunch of work
Based
@@chandlerbing7570 but that's not related to macOS, probably the hardware of the notebook
Cool bro
I used to love using hackintoshes as a kid, but then I actually got into the tech industry... After fixing bugs all day, the last thing I want is a kernel panic on my personal laptop, so stock macbook it is for me.
I still have spare computers I sometimes play around with crazy software setups on, but it's nice having the ability to just walk away from that when I am not in the mood.
getting macOS to run on a PC is like almost drowning but then being pulled onto a small island made entirely of fireants
Then being rescued by a helicopter full of terrorists.
the fuck does that mean
😂
@@hydrochloric007 That apple fucking sucks.
@@user-sn8zx5mv1x i thought I died on the OG comment ... I am dead now 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The no sleeping issue may be linked to how Microsoft pushes Modern Standby (S0ix) over traditional sleep (S1-S3) in the ACPI power configurations. If I recall correctly, macOS has no support for S0ix.
Fuck modern standby
Modern standby is one of the worst possible choices I've ever seen. "Oh you're shutting your laptop and putting it in your bag? Cool cool cool, Imma go ahead and try to find WiFi for the next 2 hours and absolutely cook your laptop. Oooooh, sorry, your battery discharged in 30 minutes, you weren't planning on using your laptop were you? Hey, no big, just disable modern standby. Oooooh sorry again, most laptops don't actually have any S options other than standby or hibernate now. Hope you enjoy hibernating your laptop every time the lid is shut!"
Seriously WTF
@@hydrochloricity is this why my laptop constantly doesn't actually go to sleep and i come back to find it dead when i shut the lid??? thanks i hate it
@@Megabobster yes
@@Megabobster Most likely. I learned about it because I noticed my laptop (Zephyrus G14) was turning the fans on when it was "asleep". Which it's also not supposed to be able to do, since SUPPOSEDLY modern standby limits CPU power to like 15W or something.
Apparently it's so that you can stay connected to wifi and continue to receive notifications like a phone.
Oh my god, I have never had a surface before, so that boot screen at 13:06 when you're booting into Ubuntu caught me off guard LOL
i love how your video perfectly captures the essence of computer tinkering, especially on the software side: "yes, this is tedious, there's no real reason to do it, and there is a clearly superior alternative to doing so, but it's fun, so who cares?"
I love this channel because it makes me feel like when I do it myself, with all the problems, try and error and the success emotion
Apple: "HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS"
Apple doesn't care about Hackintoshes.
@@David_Granger it's a joke, david
@@UltraCenterHQ I know, but I really meant they don't even care under any circumstances.
@@David_Granger 他们知道
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HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
WE MUST STOP THIS MADNESS
bruh
Pure evil genius. MacOS on a surface is just a punch in the face of EVERY dev at Microsoft and apple 😂
He won't. Really want to burn him down? Let's do it together.
Waltuh..im not fixing your laptop right now waltuh
I've also built a ton of hackintoshes over the years. Like a lot of people, I did so for music production. If you run a home studio, you likely know how expensive music gear can be. A common scenario you can get into with music gear like audio interfaces or control surfaces is that many years after purchasing it the hardware likely still functions perfectly, but whatever company made it has stopped making drivers for newer operating systems. Usually newer audio interfaces and control surfaces don't even really offer much of a benefit over older models aside from a more up to date USB connector and current drivers. As far as audio quality or what the control surface can do, it's likely exactly the same or very close.
Running a hackintosh means you have real full x16 PCIe slots, which a lot of this older hardware needs. You can also use hacked / patched drivers to get older hardware to work properly in newer versions of mac OS, saving you a ton of money from having to needlessly replace gear that still actually physically functions. It's also a common scenario to stay 1 or 2 full OS versions behind with a studio computer because music software companies can be slow to update. If you have a ton of plugins / virtual instruments / etc. installed it can be a bit of a choreographed dance to keep it all running properly on the same system. Running a hackintosh allows you the flexibility of getting the best possible hardware for your particular situation without Apple's business choices they make to appeal to consumers holding you back.
I'm both sad and happy to see the hackintosh coming to an end. Sad because, while frustrating, finally getting a hack up and running exactly the way you want it is satisfying and I learned a lot in the process about how mac OS works internally. However, once I truly have no choice I'll be happy that I'm not spending as much time tinkering and maybe more time actually creating. I'll likely need to get a 2011 mac mini on ebay or something to run some of my older MIDI hardware that requires mac os 10.11 and then use the network MIDI functionality to share it with a newer mac. That will likely be the only viable solution, because purchasing replacements for some of this older gear that physically still functions properly but only has old drivers would cost far more than a new mac.
I2C is inter-integrated-circuit interface :) it’s a nice master-slave bus that lets you communicate with other chips in a standard way. I use it all the time at work!
Now we need Windows on an iPhone/Android device, would be cool if possible.
@@dryagedmilk Ehhh I mean yeah but it's a virtual machine, I kinda wanna see this on the REAL METAL..
I don't know how possible is it in this scenario, but it would be crazy to see any phone running Michaelsoft Binbows.
I think you can run windows on phones using the Snapdragon 845, I'm pretty sure people have documented it if you look around
There's active projects to run Windows on the Lumia 950s and Surface Duo, unsure about others.
@@MayoImad As the other guy said Windows 11/10 can be installed on devices with SD 845 (sorta anyways) on bare metal. Unfortunately doing it on iPhones would be impossible, iirc only the SD845 can install because some laptop’s actually have it in, so youd just need to run patches, just like a hackintosh, but iPhones cant do that because none of the processing hardware is shared between it and other OS devices.
I think you can run Windows 11 NATIVELY on some OnePlus thing if I remember correctly.
If you're curious I2C is basically the USB of internal connections. It's super common for multiple circuit boards inside a device to be using I2C to talk to eachother. One cool thing is that it's daisy-chainable, so you can connect a bunch of devices to the same wire and they'll all work. But that comes with the major drawback that disconecting anything while the system is running breaks it (that's why you never see it anywhere besides buried in places you're not meant to see).
would you even call that daisy chaining? It's just using a common bus, isn't daisy chain more specifically about each node passing the message along to the next node within the standard itself? It just seems odd to call a common bus connection 'daisy chained'
Following Dortania's guide was honestly a blast, set up my Monterrey rig on first try, but I think this will be my last Hackintosh PC as well. Planning on moving to Linux and the FOSS world next time around.
This is literally what happened with me. I made a hackintosh in my gaming pc and had a dedicated gpu for it. But broke it when I tried to get handoff to work. Then I bought an m1 Mac mini and I love it
Lmao similar story for me as well. I ran it on my primary Pc for a bit and would switch between. It crapped out.
I ended up with an M1 MacBook Pro. Best laptop I’ve ever owned. It’s my daily driver now and I only ever touch windows to game through parsec or native.
handoff works great for me, I just had to buy a $40 native mac os supported broadcom wifi card
Nice video ! I had the same issues on my laptop haha
14:20 : Force touch isn't discontinued on current MacBooks (and it works quite well with the haptic feedback)
Glad that they didn't remove it. I use it a lot
@@Untitled_Pribor same, although I use it almost exclusively for "defining" words on the dictionary.
I discovered hard touch still existed by trying to use my dad's macbook. Every time I tried dragging something it would be a balancing act of pressing enough to register, but not enough to trigger the hard touch function
@@waity5856 enable three-finger dragging in accessibility settings. I don't know why Apple doesn't enable it by default, but I find it extremely awkward trying to drag things the usual way. I guess almost everyone uses a mouse, but there are times when I work in an area where there's no space for a mouse (in an airport, riding a bus, etc) so I had to find a way to make dragging things easier.
Yeah! It's a great feature, I really enjoy using the third dimension. Wish it was implemented with more features!
I appreciate the effort and research you have done to make this finally work 👍
i was expexcting something else, but this was infinitely better and more informative, i loved how informative this video is
It's almost 3am and I've been trying to find SOMETHING on youtube to keep me awake, suddenly a MattKC video?!
Bless you Australia, your weird time difference has actually saved me several times in both mindless video watching and in my job due to deadlines being in your time lol.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that MattKC now lives in the US. Given that this is likely where you live too, maybe MattKC schedules the uploads based on Australian time?
@@ProjectV95 I'm Canadian, but huh, interesting. I have no idea. It was like 3am and in my old job (which was remote) that was when we used to get our Australian clients messaging us.
Instead of using the display resolution changing helper, you could've tried holding ALT while clicking the "scaled" option in the system settings. This usually shows some resolutions to select of instead of the 5 settings with "bigger text" or "more space".
Otherwise: great video :D Had a Hackintosh running High Sierra (since my Geforce graphics card wasn't supported on Mojave anymore) 4 years ago and I loved it so much, I bought a real Mac then (yeah, you said that :D ). Now I am fully on Apple products....
I am so glad I've discovered this channel. My compliments!
Always enjoy your videos man, such a learning process! I've got a bitlockered laptop I'm trying to salvage, can you do a similar video someday? It would be interesting to see how it all works
As someone who stopped Hackintoshing around Mavericks (and used to mainly do it on laptops), this video was a really unexpected surprise! Glad to see that this community is still going on stronger than ever 😊
No no no , you've been doing it all wrong , what you need is macos 10.4 on an IBM t41 , JaaJ SaaS
I2C is a relatively simple protocol to use and understand. Basically all micro controllers suport it and SBCs and is commonly used in many component such as sensors, screens etc.
Dance Floor Anthem is a killer song that still holds up.
purely lovely commentary about the whole process, I've been through a similar experience with both a big old desktop and a smaller unit (minis forum U820). the first one was a disaster, couldn't get the hang of setting up an older nvidia gtx 660 that kept having artefacts on the screen, via the guide I realised that i had a model of that particular GPU that was unsupported by apple :( (apparently they have had some sort of beef with nvidia throughout the years), but the second attempt with the mini pc (did it almost 1 year after the first attempt) was for the most part a big success. if you have time checking out, minis forum U820 is advertised in the chinese market as "hackintosh friendly", had a lot of resources and already compatible software to work with (the pc is intel based for the most part), and I even managed to put ventura directly on it. but afterwards I realised that some things weren't as expected, bluetooth always had issues and I was supposed to reconnect the devices at each boot, no possibility of sleeping the device etc. > got back to linux which is more stable for an overall experience. great video overall, congrats!
I admire your perseverance.
The most I've done is Hackintosh actual Macs: I hacked El Capitan onto a 2006 Mac Pro (their official latest OS is Lion, due to the 32-bit EFI), installed High Sierra and then Mojave onto a 2008 Mac Pro using DosDude patching tools (official latest OS is El Capitan), installed High Sierra on a 2008 first-gen MacBook Pro, and Tiger on a Lombard PowerBook G3 (official latest OS is Panther).
I'm using Monterey on a 2011 air as a daily driver rn, and it somehow works pretty well! its fun to have it work so well, especially since its not even metal capable, lolz!
(i turned off the blur in accessibility, it improved performance greatly, to anyone doing it as well)
@@fally-64
Nicely done. :)
However, I believe that if your Mac can run Mojave, you should keep it at Mojave for the legacy application support, as Mojave was the last version of Mac OS to support 32-bit applications.
I’m running Mojave on my mid-2012 MacBook Pro partly so that I can run Photoshop CS5, but also so that I can play 32-bit Mac games such as Hotline Miami 1, Deadbolt and Heavy Bullets.
@@QUANTUMJOKER i also dual boot it with linux mint for that very reason, in case i need to use an app that doesn't have modern macOS support. i just use a linux port or Wine!
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Subscribed - great video - watching it on my Ryzentosh running Ventura with everything working (bar sleep, sidecar and the internal microphone, all known issues with ryzentoshes).
been a long time since i watched an yt video from start to the end without skipping and getting bored
I hackintoshed this exact laptop a few months ago and after like a week of troubleshoting and with the help of big surface it finally worked! cool to see you hackintosh the same laptop at the same time hehe, I installed macOS Ventura tho and it worked great!!
any chance of sharing the EFI folder?
Oh man, amazing video. My first attempts at Hackintosh were back in 2008 when I installed Leopard on my Dell Inspiron 1501 with AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-56 and 512MB RAM. It was a beautiful laptop, especially for its time, and really reminded me of the MacBook Pros at the time. I really wanted one, but they were far too expensive and I was a kid. So I installed Leopard and not gonna lie, it took me a few days, but it was well worth it. This was my first hands on experience with OS X and I loved it. Fast forward 1-2 years, I built myself a budget desktop PC and installed Snow Leopard, which I used for almost 2 years.. Then switched to another Windows laptop for a while, before buying a second hand MacBook Pro 13" 2011, which I loved. Years later I could finally buy a brand new Mac, and went for a 2017 MacBook Pro 13", which I had for 2 years. Then I sold it, bought my current desktop PC with a Haswell i5 and GTX 1060, on which I've installed and daily drive High Sierra with full GPU acceleration, and it runs awesome. And I'm now writing this on my recently bought, refurbished mid-2015 MacBook Pro 15", with only 42 cycles on its battery, in literally "like new" condition, which I got for 500 USD.
I have no idea why I wrote all of this, but I guess I'm quite attached to Macs and MacOS/OS X, and I really find something special in them, even on a non-Apple PC. Hackintosh really brought me into the Mac world, and Apple would be fools to actively work against it.
Try Power PC emulation with AppleOS 9. It was a great OS for its time and probably better than what is currently out there today
Be careful! The 2011 MacBook Pros were known for having GPU issues.
@@dillonsworldroblox The 15" ones with AMD GPUs did, but the 13" with just the Intel HD Graphics didn't have those issues. And my current one is a mid-2015 15". But thanks nonetheless!
It's always a good day when Matt uploads!
Can you do a benchmark? It would be interesting to see how the components run on stress knowing they weren’t made for that operating system. Would love to see it and I enjoyed the video
14:05 Force click is necessary to open Exposé for a dock app, without opening the app itself. QuickTime allows you to rewind a video on a higher speed using force click. If you force click a date, you can quickly add it to your calendar. If you’re learning a language, you can find the meaning of a word and it’s pronunciation by force clicking it. Other than that, Force click is mostly useless but still, I’d rather have it. At least for the language learning reason. It makes learning new words so convenient.
you taught me something
You can also do this stuff with a three finger tap which is much more comfortable
U can also translate/see meanings of words if you force click on a word in a website/pdfs and other files
The thing is, all of this stuff could've easily been done in a different way without needing this gimmick. You'd think that pressing harder would be a natural way to interact with UI, but in practice it just isn't intuitive. I mean the fact that people don't even realize half the gestures you can use force touch for exist proves how poor of an idea it is from a UI perspective. Plus you can do most of these things in Windows and Linux via right click menus, double taps, etc.
It's sort of like the touch bar, a useless gimmick no one asked for that is ironically less intuitive and more fussy than what everyone's already been doing.
Also hot take: Touchscreen is the most intuitive control interface, and Apple not embracing it on MacBooks is simply short sighted. Touchscreens, stylus input, and better form factors than the tired old clamshell design is why I stopped buying Macs and switched to Windows hybrid PCs
@@datachu have you ever worked with Affinity Photo on a Touch Bar MacBook? You have no idea how much easier and convenient it is. Besides all of the other stuff, you can literally change the brush size without moving the brush itself. It’s kind of like a stream deck - no need for changing the position of your cursor, opening a sub-menu, dragging the brush size slider and retrieving the brush back to its previous position. It’s just like you have an additional third arm you’ve never asked for but once you’ll get used to it - it’ll boost your productivity significantly
My first hackintosh was an Atari 520 STFM in 1989. Installing fonts and such prior to system7 was a hassle, but it was fantastic.
Nice to see your videos are still good after all this time.
My amd hackintosh builds ten years ago were legendary! Used to have so much fun going through the countless trials and error just to get them installed!
God you inspired me about that WhateverGreen troubleshooting. My desktop Hackintosh also goes black for several seconds before showing the locks screen when booting. I’ll try it too, thank you.
Watching this video makes me miss my hackintosh days a couple years back. El Capitan was my last hackintosh I installed and Leopard was my first in around 2009. Now I don't even have time for the hassle because most of my time is used for work.
I've ran hackingotsh from 2016 to 2019 on my old thinkpad T420, surprisingly everything worked pretty much perfectly, with only needing to use Broadcomm network card instead of the Intel one. Then Apple dropped support for Sandy Bridge's integrated GPU and newer versions became pain to use, so back to Linux I went.
Microsoft disliked that.
13:40 The sensation of the thing finally working when the surfaces make the charging sound… I know exactly that feeling LOL still I daily drive my Lenovo Laptop with Ventura and it’s super good. Never had a issue with monterey on the latest updates but Ventura is still a kinda buggy mess. I used to have the beta and it’s a lot better, but still not enough.
your problem solving skill immpresed me very much
This video was both nostalgic and informative to me. I'm a veteran Hackintosher since 2009, and all that was said in this video brought back many memories. I've never really hackintoshed a laptop before, but Matt's right in saying that it's not easy... Laptop hardware (as stated in the video) is very specific and almost impossible to swap out for something that works if you run into issues. With that said, I've hack'd both Intel and AMD based custom desktop systems, and let me tell you... it was frustrating as all hell to get working (more so on the AMD side than the Intel side, but still). Once you have it working though can indeed have a near identical experience to a real Mac, even with features like HandOff and Continuity and other stuff working like a charm.
Also Big Surface... so bad. lmao
Great video Matt! I'm sad Hackintoshing was murdered with the advent of the M1 family of SoCs, but it's the end of an era and this video is a good send off! Cheers!
It's cool that now in today's world, windows users can use mac on a windows laptop. Kind of sweet! Might try it sometime. Thanks for showing this!! I love your tech content!
I use Linux btw
Love this intro card. Such a pretty sound
Cool, thanks for the video and the link to a guide. I might actually give it a try now.
thank you so much matt. i've been trying to do hackintosh for a while now but could never figure it out for myself without that guide
Hackintosh will stop being 'usable' when the last compatible version for x86 is straigh up not working for anything, kinda like XP.
There is people doing a High Sierra hackintosh just for the NVIDIA compatibility, and a lot of x86 Macs still receive new software updates.
When the last compatible version doesn't allow you to publish apps for the latest iPhone, Catalina doesn't for example, then you will not be able to get the most out of it as you said, but still usable for everything else.
I miss force touch on the iPhone. My old 6 & 6S had it, I loved it. Switched to an XR and had to re-learn a lot of the UI thanks to the removal.
13:07 as an Ubuntu contributor/dev I love seeing you use it!
Love your videos they're all so interesting to me
A friend of mine had the opposite in college (circa 2016 ish) - because Macbooks were trendy and cool, but we were computer science students who thought that Macs weren't good for coding (I know this is wrong now obvs), he got a Macbook and installed Windows on it
yet both operating systems pale in comparison to literally any linux distribution
@@ME0WMERE MacOS basically is linux lol
Yeah a Macbook running windows is infinitely more usable and has a longer software support lifespan that a Macbook running it's intended system.
Macs are good for coding? I'm gonna have to disagree with you there
@@Astro-bs4wv Eh, not really.
macOS *isn't* Linux, it's an UNIX-based system. Linux is UNIX-like but it's obviously not the same thing as macOS.
macOS and iOS uses the XNU kernel with some parts from FreeBSD.
Now, please check and confirm what kind of stuff you are saying is true and stop spreading any further misinformation.
You make this a very entertaining learning experience !
I run a Hackintosh desktop at home and love it! 😄 its pretty stable. And also dualboot Windows whenever I need it.
Wait, that's illegal
Yes
Har har, shut it
Matt, you never fail to amaze me. Maybe because I know NOTHING about this, but still.
You probably should also be amazed at OpenCore and the amazing people who made it happen. ie. acidanthera, corpnewt(for the amazing scripts)
Having a Macbook that supports Force Touch myself, I totally forgot about it and tried it after you mentioned it :D
Never used that function in the 5 years I had this Macbook.
And I can tell, it still works in the latest macOS Ventura, although I only tested it with the Trash Bin like you did in the video, I guess its just not supported everywhere.
i had mac os many moons ago on my 2001 dell with pentium 4. run really well.
Apple actually flirted with x86 way back when with the Star Trek project where they experimented with porting System 7 into an operating environment a la Windows 3.x on top of DOS. It was done so that both Apple and Novell could compete against Windows on the IBM compatible space, but no one agreed on how to best go forward with the project.
Ryzen processors will run macOS, but you have to fiddle more with the bootloader to get the necessary patches working iirc. At least it wasn't like back when you had to install a custom kernel which may or may not work with the software you're using.
10:42 “If this laptop was literally any newer, this project wouldn’t be possible at all”
Me, having one model newer of that surface:
really fun to watch, keep it up
I am watching this on my Lenovo ThinkPad T440s running macOS 12.6.1 Monterey and everything works. Update: I just upgraded to a Lenovo ThinkPad T480 running macOS 13.4 Ventura and it runs flawlessly.
Theoretically, it might be possible to patch the error handler in the macOS kernel to catch the instruction set errors that came up on non-Apple ARM processors and emulating what was supposed to happen at the error handler, cleaning up the CPU error registers and returning control to the program, effectively "uncrashing" it. This is how modern virtual machines handle emulated peripherals.
It's a little ironic that I'm watching this on a MacBook running Linux
Bru💀
Me watching it on a raspberry pi 4
Samsung s20
Setting it up is half the fun
I recall installing macOS snow leopard back in 2010 on a Dell laptop. It was quite challenging getting the right drivers to work but I was able to get it running somewhat okay.. The OSX86 forums were super helpful. However, it was buggy and any little update would break it. Eventually I ended up getting a Mac mini. Today I use both windows and macos. I have a PC that I built myself primarily for gaming and a macbook pro for work
10:49 The reverse is also true for BootCamp Macs. The final Intel-based Macs Apple seems to have shipped come with 8th Gen Intel Core CPUs (Coffee Lake). This is the bare minimum for full Windows 11 compatibility but because Apple never exposed the onboard TPM 2.0 module in the firmware you have to resort to tricking the OS into installing just as you would if you were trying to install it on older hardware (which comes with the potential caveat of being unsupported should MS dictate it, as they've warned). Despite having technically compatible hardware, Apple and Windows have formally ceased interaction with the most recent revision of the OS.
Also did you bother figuring out the iMessage NVRAM thing? I remember getting that working on my old Hackintosh.
No, there are 10th gen intel macbooks, such as macbookpro16,2 and macbookair9,1, both are good SMBIOSes to use with the Surface Pro 7 or Surface Laptop 3. MacOS seems not bothered by activated TPM so far at least..
@@alnicospeaker You're right, but unfortunately I can see those don't have dedicated graphics.
Too bad. I'd have thought about upgrading this 8th gen to a 10th gen if that were possible. Just stretch it out as far as possible.
Very impressive. You should share the EFI folder somewhere so other people with this laptop can try it for themselves without all the troubleshooting.
Like he said, even if the computer is the exact same, literally anything can go wrong even if you use the same EFI as him with the same laptop.
@@awii.neocities Better than starting from scratch. Why are Hackintosh users always so assmad about sharing EFIs? Jesus Christ.
@@AnonymousDuelist half the time it doesnt work because sometimes different components can ship with different firmwares like wifi bluetooth etc
@@AnonymousDuelist Installing a Hackintosh is some sort of a hobby that makes it a personal achievement if you make it fully work on your system...
@@awii.neocities This is simply not true at all lol. There's plenty of Suface Laptop 3 models, but if someone buys the exact same as Matt he could perfectly use the same EFI folder and skip all the troubleshooting.
man do i love coming home from school to see a mattkc hackintosh video
I had a Hackintosh back in end of 2011 early 2012 on an old laptop with just WiFi not working. After that I bought my first MacBook Pro. Now I use both Windows and macOS and enjoy both.
This video truly captures the Hackintosh feeling the best. A mixture of excitement, frustration and focused trial&error. I definitely became fed up with the issues and just bought a real Mac instead, like you also explained at the start of the video. After ~10 years of fiddling with the basics time and time again, I just wanted it to end :D
I never liked Apple products, but I was curious about how it is MacOS. So, when I bought a laptop that I found it was compatible with OSX (core i3 first gen CPU - Arrandale platform) I upgraded the CPU to a core i5 and tried my luck with the OS. I managed to install it after reading many how-to and tutorials online and I was successful (partially). I do not remember what exactly went wrong or what was not quite ok (maybe it was the integrated Intel HD graphics), but after few weeks I wiped out the HDD and installed FreeBSD. I kept using FreeBSD for few years before switching back to the original Windows 7 Pro HDD that come with the laptop originally. I might say that FreeBSD was the best OS for that machine and now is what I run on that computer.
I'm always kind of amazed that people don't like or use force touch on iOS - or Mac OS. It was genuinely my favorite feature of the iPhone X - just from a novel perspective, it was so cool to be able to do something like that. Reminded me of what the Blackberry Storm tried to do, finally realized in an actually elegant and usable way. The fact that all the same stuff can still be done by just tap and hold now is fine, but not nearly as cool, imo
19:00 The sleep issues were likely caused by something called "Windows Modern Standby" (also known as "Windows Connected Sleep" and "S0 Sleep" or "Windows InstantGo"). With "S3 Sleep" (what came before and many OSes still use including MacOS), the processor would fully power off, however things such as the keyboard would remain on so you can wake the system. Windows made a new sleep system however called "Modern Standby", which keeps EVERYTHING on so it wakes quicker. Because of this feature existing, most OEMS decide to turn off S3 sleep in the BIOS behind a hidden switch or remove it all together. Many Linux distros know about this and implemented support for Modern Standby, but to MacOS, it is confused why the processor hasn't went to sleep, as it dosen't expect to be being used on a device that has support for this. The only fix that MAY work for this, is installing Windows 8.1 on the system, and turning off something along the lines of "Allow my computer to check for emails and blah blah blah while in sleep", but it may not help.
The part where you mention it not waking up from sleep. I had the same issue on Ubuntu on my Lenovo Ideapad 5. I was never able to fix it, but if anyone does know a solution. I'd love to hear it.
On the Surface Laptop 3, waking up from sleep is working on Linux with the linux-surface kernel.
A lenovo... a bios update(god help ya with that) might be needed.
Did you set a swapfile/ swap partition? That fixed it on my Lenovo legion (Arch)
Ventura broke sleep for my real macOS, may as well macintosh
Who is watching on a surface other than me?
The smoothest hackintosh experience I ever had was with the QUO motherboard that got kickstarted a while back, and even then it wasn't nearly as simple as doing what you're supposed to do and install windows 😝
Muy buena información, colega. Merecido like y los mejores deseos de éxitos! 👏👏😉
I've been daily driving desktop hackintoshes for almost 5 years, and those are a lot easier to get fully working. I don't know why, but macOS has always been more stable on my build than Windows. I did buy an M1 MacBook for computing on the go though.
LOL when I was a child I tried installing macOS on my Windows Vista laptop. I remember the struggle to make it barely work and I ultimately ended up formatting important data lmao... Now I have an M1 Macbook Air and I am very happy 😄
getting a certain notebook model with a maintained community distribution of max os makes it much easier, you just dump the community patch over the clear installation, install it and all works... There are plenty of mac patches for some thinkpad models
its kinda funny that when the ad break screen appeared, i got an ad
btw great video
I still have nightmares of being a gamer 10 years ago while owning a MacBook. When i bought my own PC i smashed that thing to bits 😁
Apple sucks everybody should trash it
For a lot of reasons i'd suggest you to install a linux distro and customize to look like mac, it gets pretty close, has a lot more of a stability and it is WAAAAAAAY easier to get to work. Depending of how you use it, you maybe exchanging one problem to another.
I own huawei matebook 13 2020. It's perfect hackintosh laptop. It has only usb-c port and everything works perfectly. The only exception is a camera. You can find many ready to go configurations on github.
this was a great video matt. keep it up i love ur vids man
Force touch on MacOS is actually very useful. The main use for it (for me) is highlighting a word and, with a force touch, get shown the definition of that word.
Bill Gates wants to know your location.
Me, a seasoned Linux user who's installed almost everything from Arch to Void: "I fear no setup, but that..thing, it scares me."
Aah. Good old Hackintosh. Once I had to make one for one of my school projects (Swift programming) and because I only had a PC with an FX-8350 it was “great” fun for 2-3 days of scanning through the internet and trying out every version I’ve found in VMware and VirtualBox
There's a great amd hackintosh forum/community, 8350 runs High Sierra very well
@@UserMum7512 Back then I suffered a lot to run it especially that I also had an Nvidia GPU so everything was going to shit constantly
wow...very impressive...you have the patience of Job...I do appreciate your diligence...jo'c
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Honestly, I don't think there's any name that can top Big Surface.
maybe Chonker.