Jack Eichel + Matt Moulson Discuss What Went Wrong In Buffalo - Episode 359
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- čas přidán 9. 11. 2021
- On Episode 359 of Spittin’ Chiclets the guys are joined by Jack Eichel and Matt Moulson. Jack joined (00:20:30) just hours after he was traded to the Vegas Golden Knights and discusses what went wrong in Buffalo. The guys open the show giving their takes on the Eichel trade, along with breaking down all the other NHL news including the Blackhawks firing their Head Coach. The boys are then joined by Matt Moulson, who joined (01:30:56) to discuss his NHL career, his captaincy in Hershey, living with Jack Eichel and tons more.
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This was a great one, guys. It's really endearing to see Matt Moulson still trucking.
I've always wanted to see Tom Wilson, and M. St.Louis on here with the boys
They did one with Marty a while back ep 43
Long time Islanders fan. Matt was a great guy, average hockey player at best who hit the jackpot playing with JT. Set him up financially for life. Good things happen to good people in life.
John tavares? Hes sht.
He’s in his 21st pro season. Dominated the AHL at a young age. 30 goals 3 times in the NHL. Bit better than average
2:45:20 lmao whitney’s comments on bob murray are perfectly timed with the news coming out of anaheim.
Yeah, that fits.
"Speaking of thyme..." hahaha what a line Biz
The mention of Joel Rechlicz reminds me of one of the funniest things I've seen in hockey. When Rechlicz was on the Islanders, I can't remember who the players was (might have been Craig Conroy but not sure), a smaller guy, not known for being physical or for fighting, hit one of the Islander players with a decent check, but nothing dirty, and the Islander guy fell down, and Rechlicz happened to be on the ice. Recker thinks, "It's my job tom stand up for my teammates" and he goes skating in a bee line for the other guy like he's gonna beat his head in, and the look on the other guy's face is "holy shit, what did I do?", and even the Islander players were shocked because you don't have Rechlicz in the line up to fight Craig Conroy, LOL. They were like "whoa, whoa, whoa!" I don't think Recker got on the ice for the rest of that game and don't think he played too many more games after that. He was a guy who didn't have his head screwed on right. But he'd make a great guest, if he hasn't already been on.
love it boys keep it up!
Im 18 years old, and I've seen Young Blood so many times. My dad loved that movie and always watched it growing up!
Liquid Dwayno is the greatest thing I’ve ever heard
Drinking game with eichel saying 'ummmm' would get you throttled
It shouldn’t come down to hockey players to take care of the vets but God bless you guys. Seriously.
Moulson mentions Pascal Morency.. need him on the pod.. must have some great stories from his days in the ECHL and Bridgeport.
That Vanek trade ruined me as an Isles fan. I was happy to get Vanek, but Moulson was genuinely beloved by the fans. Islanders legend forever.
It seemed like anytime the Isle got a winger who could play with Tavares, they'd just trade him after having a good season. They basically used Tavares as a "value inflater"....he made at least 3-4 wingers or centers into 60+ pt guys....the Islanders when then just trade them away thinking Tavares tapped them out. And once again...he would have no one to play with. It's no wonder why he decided to leave the organization. Moulson was a beauty.
@@AshtrayAnnie That's not really how it went. While it's true that JT inflated the value of some of his linemates, the notion that he never had anyone to play with is false.
JT had Lee, Bailey, Okposo, and Vanek during his tenure. There were some rough years in the beginning for sure, but Okposo, JT, Vanek was maybe the best line in the league while they were together.
I don't actually fault Garth for letting Moulson walk. Despite being a fan-favorite he wasn't worth the money he was going to get on the market, and the Islanders knew that.
Garth's (and the JT-era Islanders) main downfall was not acquiring depth at the right time and hanging onto coaches (who JT apparently loved) despite them being obviously bad.
Trotz took an arguably worse roster than some of the ones JT had, got them to believe they were actually good, and got the most out of his players.
Moulson was indeed a beauty though.
@@Krimbopulous Sorry, I will disagree with you fully on this. Moulson meshed with Tavvy, same with Okposo. Any person who's played hockey knows that you're better over paying for chemistry than you are over-working drafts in order to find the right players to build chemistry again. There's a reason you see guys like Moulson and Okposo leave the Isles and then turn into nobodies. They had natural chemistry with Tavvy. That's just a fact. Similar to guys like Dupuis or Kunitz with Crosby. Notice how Pittsburgh over paid for those guys? And how it seemed to work. There's no argument here. It's just a fact.
As for your argument about Trotz being left with less. That's COMPLETELY laughable. The depth that Isles team had when he came in was already extremely deep. Not to mention having a very solid top 4 D and 2 studs for a goalie tandem.
My argument that I was making for Tavvy not having anyone to play with, is simply saying he didn't have anyone who could make HIM better. And when they had a team built the way they did when he was there. That first line needed to consistently have 2 100+pt guys to make the offense work. As, at the time they really didn't have much depth scoring past the players who either played with Tavvy on the 1st line or PP units....
And I think it's fairly obvious this was one of the main reasons he left. The Isles were never willing to make a big move to bring in someone who could truly run a 2nd line at a similar pace to Tavvy, or trade for a winger that can put up 45+ goals. *Note, at the time, the way they were built they didn't have many options other than these to better the team without a rebuild. Barzal was the closest thing Tavvy ever seen to having a true #2 to generate offense. And the bridge was already burnt with management and Tavvy by the time he came into the picture.
Moulson was a complete bust 2 times on Buffalo, giving that sloth 5 years 5 million per year was a complete joke, he couldn't score at all with out tavares.
@@AshtrayAnnie We’ll have to agree to disagree
Matt Moulson is still beloved among Islanders fans. Was one of the few bright spots in the early 2010’s when the team was very bad. The Islanders couldn’t convince Thomas Vanek to sign long term in 2014 because of the impending move to Brooklyn. Vanek rejected a 7 year 50 million dollar extension from Garth Snow. Thomas Vanek and John Tavares were absolutely incredible together. It just sucks that Vanek only played 47 games with the Islanders before they traded him to Montreal.
Watching P.K. Subban trying to play defense in his own zone is like watching someone put out an electrical fire with a super soaker
His homemade training videos are so good tho
@@ce6311 True, he remains a physical freak.
@@ce6311 the spazz crossovers kill me everytime 🤣
Don’t worry, he’s now teamed up with Scotiabank to lecture white male hockey players about how they’re evil, sexist, racists.
@@rjmacdougall *looks around* ...What?
Great Poddy
Biz, RA, Grinelli and the PinkPigeon nailing a good show!
Worked for the monarchs in the Locker room when Matt played in Manchester, awesome guy very personal-able and stand up player!
Was he a nice guy?
Yea was really nice guy and down to earth
Do a sandbagger with Bugsy and Roloson! Roli lives in Tampa and is a stick. Played with him in college and the stories were exactly on point - great guy!!
Moulson was a great Islander and is still loved by the fans
Hope Eichel tears it up when he comes back
In a way it’s clickbait. Neither guy really answered why things went south in Buffalo…
Wonder what was edited out right after moulson mentioned jacks bud light video
you guys fuckin rule, right from the start
I got the gum on my hoop is one the greatest sayings I’ve ever heard
Y’all should get Tom Wilson on pls
episode 81 and 92 look em up
Buffalo just being Buffalo
Hey, Devon Ricchio, fellow Philly firefighter!
Ima FF too
matty moulson for thomas vanek man garth blew that one big time
First. Love the show boys!
Props to Jack for sticking to his guns!
Sticking to his coke!
teddy has to be added to the team
Sounds like Krueger had his way with Eichel. Now Eichel's a New World uptalker.
slapshot is the best movie
Here’s to hoping Jack doesn’t sniff his career away in Vegas
it would be sick if you had henrik zetterberg on one day.
PAUSE AT 1:07:59 and unpause the mcdavid goal on another screen starting at 0:03 seconds
Who is the pittsburgh goalie whit was talking about early on
Biz and whit playing tummy sticks
You guys are sleepin on the Red wings
LoL I'm a wings fan....and you do realize they beat the Oilers when the Oilers started off terrible, with an AHL goalie in net lol. They still need a lot of work
@@AshtrayAnnie they definitely are a long way from competing for a cup but thank the hockey gods we are exciting and have a semblance of competitive hockey again. Love watching this team compared to the last few years. Couple years and we will be dangerous.
@@AshtrayAnnie they were able to shut down McDavid and Draisaitl. Be more positive brother. We were able to keep a lead the whole game against a team who’s lost one game before last night.
@@Thrashman-ye4cf lol I've just watched all the games for both teams this year. We literally were up against an Oilers team giving it about 40% until about 5 mins into the 3rd period lol.
@@AshtrayAnnie that’s kind of a good thing though. They came into the game cocky thinking they could just half ass it and still win, and we didn’t even let them have a lead. I’ll take it. We made them work and they still couldn’t get it. Cheers LGRW👊🏻
Wanna see timmy stutzle and chabot on
Please get gaborik on pod
You guys should get Reaves on here
We tanked to get McDavid and got him instead, The entire time he had terrible attitude, always brutal body language on ice and in media(you never see McDavid do that or real captains), always hurt, never backchecked ever, wouldn't listen to coaches got coach fired, had issues in lockeroom with ROR and claimed it was all a joke(does goofing around help team win?), etc...Good luck in Vegas, he will be good there on that super old team where 9 guys are over 30(forwards wash up quick early 30s). Lehner will go crazy again, team will miss playoffs a few times and he will start with the negative body language crap again like a baby.
they should get you on the pod would be interesting to hear the perspective of someone who was so close to jack in buffalo. I'd love to hear your locker room stories about him
@UCW7Li5PR5ynXZXvHefTlcuQ fu-c off. Jack and ROR were asked about their issues, clearly there was a problem, I didn’t have to be in locker room to figure it out. Why do you think ROR wanted to leave, Eichel and team sucked
@@charlieb308 Jack was averaging over a point per game so I wouldn’t say he sucked lol
@@CGJ703 Jack was. It a good captain and he was a terrible influence on other players, bad attitude. Glad he’s gone.
@@josepheisenkrein7153 watch the after the whistle podcast on youtube ull hear everything u wanna know of how he was in the room with guys.
Get Drouin on the pod
Chills hearing the story of the Pittsburgh goalie
Same. Do you know who they were talking about?
Funny bizz chirping mcdavid and Rasmus dahlen about thier skating ability… go figure! Hahah
I'M A ROCKET SCIENTOLOGIST, I KNOW WHAT THE FUCK'S GOING ON 39:05
I don't know what's worse, Biz's take on tkachuk's goal, or him thinking the leafs will win the cup
Woof awful takes
Glad its working out for him but you got to admit the Sabre's have much been better without him this year .
They call that the Tavares Effect.
they where without him most of last season too...
They'd look even better if they had him
They’re coming back down to earth now. Either way the Eichel Sabres relationship is long over
Biz has to be the funniest, most quotable human to ever be born 😂🤣
RA doesn’t baste his steak. You heard it here first folks
Lets be honest, the way the sabres have treated players over the years (just based on the players that have come out) is embarrassing. Regardless it's a job and you gotta respect your employees or they won't wanna work for you. Exactly what happened here
Those hotel curtains are fucking atrocious
funny how these guys think the sabres will be no where in 2 to 3 years, they are loaded with young talent, Vegas will be trash in 2 to 3 years they are old and have a trash prospect pipeline lol.
The sabres are already playing better with the lowest payroll in the NHL.
Eichel did the right thing. Very unfortunate for sabres fans but honestly yall can't blame him. It was management and owner. Simple as that really.
sucks my fellow fans here in Buffalo are going to boo the crap outta this man when returns to play us. I never wanted him gone, stand up guy excellent hockey player, speedy recovery Jack!! Good luck!!!
So Eichel still has not got the surgery??? I was under impression that Vegas made the deal because he got the surgery and would only need few months of rehab. Kinda seems like a huge risk for Vegas. They have been a decent team since joining the league. Why deal a guy who has a fucked up neck, still trying to figure out the surgery, then will probably be rehab 6 months IF the surgery even works.
He had it yesterday and it webt well calm down guy
They just won the cup with Eichel as their best player. That's why they made the trade. ;)
@@Yimvision yeah I was wrong. Lol
I hope Eichel knows the fans do not hold any negative emotions towards him, it's the owners we hate.
Aqua?
Comoon bois send mr pink whitney for free rest of my life ill br a great hobo sponsor ;)
Whit Dogg with a nice hanging story to open the pod.
Glad Eichel got out of Buffalo but I gotta say he seems like top 10 ppl I would not wanna hang out with
to be fair if I couldn't do what I loved for 8+ months, it would throw me off too
@@tylerdowd yea idk even before when I’ve seen him in interviews he comes off as a person that’s hard to get along with
ROR and him had something going on in Buffalo, After goals were scored they never looked at each other or talked at all, Eichel claims it was all a joke, If it really was a joke then that doesn't help the team win screwing around on a last place team instead of being focused on winning.
Jack was a terrible fit here in Buffalo. He's not Buffalo in any way shape or form. Happy he's gone!
Maybe he was trying to peel the gum off?
Josh Allen is a stud player, and TRUE CAPTAIN! Maybe if anything you can learn that from him!
Micheal Jackson? NO Matt Moulson.
Lie Eichel lie... U said u wanted to stay in Buffalo yet u asked for a trade when Botterill got fired. Gtfoh!!! Anything to save face. After what i heard about you in the locker room im kinda glad your gone.
LOL HA HA, What went wrong in Buffalo was signing a loser like Matt Moulson for 5 million per year for 5 years! The dude couldn't even score at all without Tavares. He was so slow and so bad, we had to pay him 5 mill to play in AHL. Bad signings like him and Okposo(still paying for that bum), bad trades(Bogo, Evander Kane< ROR trade to Blues), TERRIBLE drafting. Moulson is a guy who earned a ton of money for only standing around goal and having Tavares do all the work.
how many years you play in the show?
It wasnt a good signging for sure. Think he had maybe 2 good seasons in The LO... Couldnt get anything for him even when we tried. Id rather of Kept Vanek but even @ that time he was on the Downswing of his Career.
I have a feeling Eichel is going to be a bust. He only gets labeled as good because he was drafted after McDavid. But still, offering a guy a deal with a fucked up neck before getting surgery makes no sense to me.
watch jack shove that up ya hoop an every other hater , he actually was that guy before the injury
Lol he asked to b traded in 2020. He’s using this injury thing as his hill to die on. Funny thing is Kevin adams is a ex player, I’m pretty sure he knows how to treat players. I mean he gave hall what he asked for. But for jack he literally was stripped of his captaincy, he has ex players telling things that never make it out of the locker room, and what a douche he is. Funny he’s been back for 11 games, they’ve lost to the Sabres, flyers, coyotes, and kings being one of the better ones, they are 4-7 since he started playing for vegas.He should love vegas with all the snow that falls there. Hey jack, make sure to wipe down the nose
lol. maybe he's doing lines off the Stanley cup. Buffalo fans are the worst. No wonder he wanted to leave.
@@Yimvision yeah it was us that were the worst, Mayb you should get out more, oh I’m sorry I don’t want to offend your prim and proper sensibilities, we know how this generation tends to get offended easy. Look fan or player, and I talked directly to peters (Andrew) who basically stated the same as the organization/fan/ players. Just because he went and won the cup with a loaded team, and a hot goaltender, doesn’t mean he changed. He always put up points, because that’s what divas do. They want the accolades, they want the money, they want coaches fired, I mean the list goes on. You’ll see when his career and the career of his team mates are over, then they’ll tell u what a disaster of a team player/ guy he was. I mean Matt murray won the cup with pittsburgh, and everyone probably including you were sucking on deez nutz, thinking he was the reason, how’s good ol Murray been since leaving. It’s a team that wins the cup bro. As a fan all I wanted was a team guy, who went to play(not for his own glory) but for the crest on his sweater. So if that makes us bad fans, and not band wagoners, then so be it. I notice how you were silent last year after he came and they missed the playoffs, and he gave the approving look to his goalie right after they were eliminated. And let’s not forget, you along with Tampa skirted the cap. I mean you were technically 12 mill over
BIZ!! GIMME A FUCKIN BREAK! McDavid tied the game 5-5 with 3mins left single-handedly vs 4 Rangers... ...Tkachuk hot-doggin it between the legs in a 6-0 blowout goal is fuckin NOTHING compared to McDavid CLUTCH. C'mon, Biz! You're supposed to be a pro!