2019 Lexus ES 350 F SPORT // Finally A Sporty ES?
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- James and Thomas take a look at whether or not it makes sense to "F Sport" the Lexus ES350. Let us know if this is a car YOU would be interested in. SUBSCRIBE FOR MORE THROTTLE HOUSE
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"You can aggressively take clients to see real estate?" Lmao....this line made my day😂😂🤣
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It's funny because I'm a real estate agent who's considering buying this car.
@@otk88403 it's funny because I'm a real estate photographer and one of my colleagues owns a Lexus 🤣🤣🤣
@@Severely_Divorced It's funny because my real estate agent drives an ES350
it's funny I am a real estate agent who will get a es300h
25-30 years from now, there will be million mile ES's on the road... that's why Lexus uses that na V6.
George Costanza true. I still have my 20 year old Lexus ES
In 25-years it's a metallic cube in junkyard.
Shame it doesn't have the rwd of the older gs which was always the better car
@Jonathan McCully 2020 is the last Lexus GS
@Jonathan McCully I had one and now have an rx. The older non hybrid gs V6 was a fabulous car and I am sorry I sold mine now. They have axed the gs from their new range so you cannot buy a new version anymore in the uk. That is not the point though....the POINT is that the ES replaces the GS but is FWD.
I have this car and i love it. Great look and decent performance but above all its a comfortable drive. I love it
do you mind that is not AWD? and why? please
@@Nephromancer3 why do you mind it's not awd ? for relaxed driving styles and long cruises i prefer FWD
I guess you do since you paid top dollar for it. I'd go for BMW or Audi for that price.
@@betterbeavailable BMW and Audi will give you a sportier experience. Lexus is more like a Mercedes' competitor; however, down the road, you know the lexus will win because it's more reliable and less expensive to maintain. This ES is a great daily car so that you can save up money for a weekend car without worry about your daily breaking down. I used to hate Lexus ES in the pass cus the design was really old, with this new upgrade, I think it's awesome. I still pick a BMW M / Audi RS for the weekend tho :D
Hi Brad.... I am from your channel..
I bought this exact car about a month ago and I am very pleased with my purchase. This car is smooth and relaxing to drive and in my opinion looks really good, especially the F Sport model. One very important point you guys fail to mention is that the normally aspirated v6 in this car runs on regular gas. Almost all comparable luxury calls run on premium gas. This is 20% cost savings on operating costs over most comparable cars and the fact that this engine will have fewer maintenance issues.
How does it handle in the snow and ice?
@@aceking894 We did not have much snow where I live so I can't really comment. It's front wheel drive with new tires so it should be okay, but if this is a concern a good set of winter tires should work well.
@@aceking894 With winter tyres it handles great almost like an all wheel drive vehicle.
This is the Lexus puzzle. It is better on depreciation and operating cost than its luxury car rivals, but if someone cared a lot about these things they would buy a mainstream brand.
How does the fuel consumption of that v6 compare to rivals inline 6? That probably cancels out the regular petrol advantage. I have a 2015 Infiniti qx50 with a v6 that is similar to the Lexus. It however does consume 14.5l per 100km, where as the German cars consume like 11L
I'd like to see more Lexus cars on this channel. Mainly the LC500
check now
@@aabbas1608 waiting forls500
The grill design grew on me. I actually love it
It did not grow on you. The original revamped grill design was butt ugly. This one is a mature and refined design of that same grill and that is why you like it. If you were to see the the same grill from 2016, you would not like it even after seeing this one.
Social Justice Warrior I actually love the original grill design just as much as I love the new one.
It's like a nightmare.
Social Justice Warrior how can he be wrong about something that he likes? America’s a capitalist country
It's terrible. Even KIA has better grille (though they copied it from BMW). Well at least Toy... Lexus is original. Kudos for that.
Watching this for my 2nd time and wow you 2 have grown in such a short space! Love it!
The production value in your current videos has come so far! It's amazing to see what has transpired in 4 years!
I don't comment a lot but I wanted to say, you guys are great fun to watch- the reviews are informative and your choice of sometimes odd comparisons are unique and interesting! Best of all, your dynamic is a joy to watch and you two are genuinely funny without trying so hard. The other reviewers are so idiosyncratic that I can't take more than a few minutes. With you guys, I just want to hang out with you for the day, talk cars and have a drink. Keep on rocking!
the ES350 still the greatest car ever made. Insane reliability, comfort, quiet.... may not be sporty but at least it uses 87 octane.
Some great car content coming out of Canada these days. Thanks guys
Great review. Definitely some legitimate improvements for Lexus to make for the next model year.
Great video as usual. It'd be great if you guys showed a little more of the back of the cars especially when you have the filming car driving around you. Thank you for the good work!
Dunno why people hate on the current Lexus grilles. They look unique but in a good not bad way
Looks good on the small to mid size sedans but not an LS or SUVs.
Anthony D. Was driving and saw an LS.. let me tell you, it has by far one of the best road presence on a car I’ve seen
it is nice on sedans but they look way off on the SUVs
That's because they're either people who love German cars or people who can't afford one. People know the reliability of Lexus is the best in the business and it isn't even up for debate. Remember some people need something to complain about.
@@Anthony-dk7de It looks good on the small to mid size cars, and the LX. This grille on the GX looks hideous. BTW, it's OK on the LS.
This is a very nice car has a lot of features and is a Lexus excellent reliability Love James only seeing him he is always smiling and having fun with every car
One of the best cars this year, in my opinion. The previous ES was very good as well in the fact that it prioritized comfort over everything else, no sport. Reminded me of of late 90s-late 2000s American sedans from Caddy, Chrysler, Lincoln and GM.
Great as always guys! I love the look of this car, not sure I would buy it but I do appreciate it!
I like the f sport looks and the luxury features it comes with so yes it needs the F sport package
The ES is a great car period...but you have to reach a certain age to truly appreciate its qualities or just be a mature petrol head who happens to have nice sporty 2 seater as their weekend car for fun...Nice review!
Get the hybrid though
CarsofGlasgow no that has the blandest driving experience imo
BS. No petrol head would want a FWD giant barge with that much power, that could never put down that power, but pretends to look like a sporty car. If you like the Lexus way, their reliability, their comfort, and you're a petrol head needing a big sedan, you get the GS. The styling on the ES is just a fat dude dressing up in spandex and trying to pull themselves off as an olympic swimmer. Unfortunately people do fall for that, and those people are just stupid or too snobbish to buy a Camry, which is what this is based on. They didn't want to labelled as such a normal Camry owner, but what they really wanted was nothing more special than a camry with some fake vents on it.
The ES is the ultimate daily driver car and long trip car. If you want a throwaway sporty toy for weekend traffic light drag races, you can just buy a used M1 bmw or KIA Stinger.
The ES is much smoother and overall more comfortable front and back than the GS, it almost makes you not want to drive aggressively and just enjoy the drive. Trying to go around curves at high speed inspires no confidence compared to the GS though, tons of body roll.
Watching this compared to recent videos, it looks like Thomas has dropped some weight. Well done, Thomas, and congrats!! 👍
I bought one thanks to this informative review. It was exactly what I was looking for and the price was right.
how much did u pay for it? im considering one
Around 50k. Pretty cheap!
P_enta $50k is cheap? Most people cant or dont want to pay $800-$900/month for car payment! I love this new es design. Out of my budget. 2015 gs350 is within my budget. But in dont like the gs design much. Aaahhhhhhh!
Troy Truong 50k is quite cheap for the amount of luxury you’re getting.
@@troytruong8246 ah but rear wheel drive, ultimate reliability of the GS... what is not to like?
So it’s a really nice and sharp-looking appliance. Cool. I bet most people who buy it will love it.
Have it. Love it. Would not change it for any other car!
Impeccable review. Love what Lexus did with the ES. Hopefully AWD will come when they see increase in sales. The grille definitely grew on me.
i see these cars pre delivery every day . it's amazing how much car you get for the price with the ES
You guys work well together...Had to stop to comment on the complexity of operating something so simple as the non panoramic sunroof...within 2 minutes of taking prideful ownership of my 2017 Optima SXL and it's slightly different controls from our 2012EX premium, I was able to put the sliding sunshade and/or sliding glass exactly where I wanted it! Also no silly screen controls that only infuriate! Go Throttle House!!
I love the ES. I don’t really care about sportiness. I want a quiet ride. So I think I wouldn’t buy the F-sport package personally but the Ultra Luxury package.
I've never understood this weird obsession with "sportiness" for street cars. Even my old 22 year old Toyota can do double the highway speed limit and get me jailed if caught. Why would anyone want more than that for the street?
And then there's this new trend of putting those seriously awful 19 inch or 20 inch wheels to cars that make them ride like a wheelbarrow. Lexus ES is the ultimate street car.
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior Totally agree!
Exactly, dont care abt sport packages and all the stuff, all i need is smooth quiet ride!
I don't understand why all these review channels want every car to be sporty otherwise they will label it boring. Really?! Kudos to you
@@hassansmw5634 exactly, the hell with the sport packages and horrible stiff ride that sacrifice the ride comfort, never ever for me!
I love the Es i have a 2006. I am an avid fwd fan so to see an f sport Es is great. The fwd is all you need in weather to Lots of weight over those drive Wheels.I Also hurl My Es down many curvy roads and
Love it.
I do the Same in my Avalon :D! FWD!!
I like the grill, the touchpad mouse thing, and the other stuff.
I enjoy the Lexus Remote Touchpad and prefer that over a fingerprint-prone touchscreen any day. No issues with precision/usability.
corradomr2 I actually wish I had the track pad I have the older knob remote touch in my gs which was frustrating to use at first.
It’s way better than the touch screens but not as good as the scroll wheel
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Hey mate, if you like Lexus reviews I've made a few of them including the ES. If you're interested to watch let me know what you think :)
I drive ES 350 with V-6 and consider it a fantastic vehicle!! Disappointed to see that new models will probably go with 4 cylinder turbo; but I know it's a government gas mileage thing..
I'm getting this. Beautiful, attractive car.
The F-Sport is just an appearance package at the end of the day.
True. I find their lack of commitment to the proper F division rather frustrating. That division had sooo much potential.
@@scm3294 The RCF, GSF, ISF not good?
@@d1sturb3d119 Of course they are good, except the overweight RC F. Unfortunately they are phasing them out and replacing them with f sport models, except the overweight RC F, which makes no senss to me.
@@scm3294 phasing out what models? I know the gs may go away but i havent heard anything about the f models. The rcf is called heavy but drive one. I promise youll never feel the weight. Also for a heavy car it still handles very well. For most track day drivers it will never make a difference.
@@d1sturb3d119 There was only one ISF based on the 2007 - 2013 body style. There was no ISF after that, the rest were F-sport models. The GS is being replaced by ES and as I'm sure you know, there is no ESF.
I test drove the RCF with my brother in law when he was in the market for a sports coupe. The engine sounded great and it was very refined but you DO notice the weight transfer in the corners and when breaking. It's decent when driven in isolation but starts to falter when compared to the M4 and C63 amg, which are much sharper and lighter AND YOU FEEL IT. My brother in law ended up going with the c63 because it's sharp but more refined than the BMW. (But not as refined as the Lexus).
Ok I own one of these cars, it’s my daily driver I agree with them that its not fast BUT it’s quick. How he said it’s slow in 3rd. That gear pulls very well on the highway because it’s VERY long. 80ish mph In 3rd is a great passing gear. Because it’s FWD the 302hp feel much quicker because it doesn’t lose a lot of that power. It’s not a fast car like he said. Because it’s fwd and naturally aspirated. It gives u that initial pull a lot. When he doing highways speed. There is no torque steer. Only if ur flooring it at lower speed. After u get out of 1st. There isn’t really much tq steer. Because the drivers of these cars. Just want a semi sporty luxury. And are almost never going to floor it off the line. It’s completely built for highway driving. EXTREMELY QUITE no torque steer. there have been a lot of cars that couldn’t keep up with. Me on the highway because this thing is built for highway speeds. 3rd gear on the highway is a killer. So I’m not sure what he’s talking about. Especially under 100 and not starting from a dead stop. It’s it’s quick. 60-100 is where the car shines
I hope they make an all wheel drive hybrid that'd probably be easier to engineer. Have the rear driven by electric give it some real fun when the batterys are charged
Nice review guys
I like the new Lexus ES design exterior and interior but in my opinion it goes with the flagship LS model
They share a lot in terms of exterior design and lines
Guys, your channel is getting better and better.
Wish you the best
I like it too! I made a video on a loaded ES with reclining seats etc :)
these guys are great
So comfortable . Being a tall guy it's getting harder to get into cars . Could barely get into the is300 but the es350 was so roomy and comfortable
How tall are you?
I think some of the design considerations on the trackpad is for use with gloves.
you hit the nail on the head!
The background music on point
Beautiful machine
For daily commute, no car can beat the es350. End if story. Quality, comfort, and reliability.
I just wanted the LFA style gauges my regular white ES would be perfect
I just bought the 2020 ES F Sport- same color as the in the video. Overall, their review is pretty dead-on accurate. I agree that the ride is amongst the best I have experienced, the interior quality is very good, the car is silent, and the styling is edgy (unlike previous ES models). On the negative side, I agree the overall performance is lacking with adequate acceleration and good handling.. the infotainment interface is horrible. I wish the vehicle had a V6 turbo/supercharged version and I also wish the stereo was better (it’s good, but not great for the ungraded price). Also, there is no A/C button to turn off the A/C, you have to navigate through the infotainment system.
Can you make a price competitive Lexus, Genesis, Acura, Mazda, and Infiniti comparison?
Love the current designs, the grill makes it stand out. In the past lexus was a premium brand that just blended in with traffic, they did not stand out... kinda looked like muddled mercedes... now they look unique and genuinely stylish. Why not make these rear wheel or awd that's one factor that makes me want to step up to a GS. But the styling is so good!
Some may argue that fwd is fine however torque steer and understeer are not acceptable... interferes massively with the driving experience. (Imho)
Awesome car great ride reliable as anything made.
I got used to the track pad guys. Like bowling or beer pong, you get more accurate with your placement.
It takes refined taste to appreciate these cars. I’m on my second Lexus and I think I’ll have a third soon.
Can you give me one please?
Agree! These youtube review channels all seem to mention 2 of the main aspects of car purchases, reliability of a vehicle and the resale value, which for any sane person would be more important than "sportiness"
I have the same sunroof and SOS buttons in my IS and have never once been confused about which one is which. Seems like reaching for a complaint.
These guys have low IQ.
We don't even have a SOS button in Australia...wish they replaced it with a sunglasses holder...
Right? Lmao plus Lexus now puts a cover over the SOS button for guys like these (as shown in this very video) so how would they accidentally pull the cover open then push the button - definitely reaching
Yea same but the one in my IS doesn’t even have the cover doesn’t mean I hit it.
Never had a problem with the sunroof buttons in my GS. It’s not brain surgery lol
What about reliability benchmarking comparing to benz, bmw, audi? I hope you make a video about it
Nice review. Nice vehicle. I previously owned a front wheel drive 2014 ES 350. I could not deal with the torque steer. Traded for a 2014 GS F Sport.
It was definitely prominent
GS F sport nice car, but GS-F is a rear wheel drive car with real performance specs.
John Green I had a 6-speed Nissan Altima coupe with the 3.5L v6.... fwd open differential, the most savage torque steer and wheel spin I’ve ever experienced. Traded her in for a is350 fsport.
That solid door close at 33 seconds is all you need to know.
Hey mate, if you like Lexus reviews I've made a few of them including the ES. If you're interested to watch let me know what you think :)
I love the background music🎶
The looks are bang on in this F-sport package. I like the looks of this much more than the IS, but alas the IS is the real sport sedan in the Lexus lineup and the better drive.
I just wished Lexus refresh the IS using this ES styling and retain the 3.5L V6 but with proper RWD.
RWD? Nope if you want RWD go to a different car company.
@@seeum2098 hence why I'm leaning more towards Alfa Romeo or Jaguar.
Amazing this Lexus worth every penny
Most reviewers only have the car for a few days/weeks and therefore can't comment on the infotainment system. If you were to use it on a daily basis, it isn't that bad.
0 complaints on my rc350
I got a 05 es330 wit 160k on it love it looking to get da f sport in next year or so hopefully this made my choice
Hey mate, if you like Lexus reviews I've made a few of them including the ES. If you're interested to watch let me know what you think :)
I don't know why Lexus won't make the entertainment system touchscreen optional along with the trackpad. You can get aftermarket touchscreen systems for the Lexus.
I bought the 21 version of the exact same version and I agree with the HUD problem, the edge of it is curving down and it is dizzy when you stair at it. Also the temp system should add a "SYNC" function since I have to adjust them separately.
yes the sync should be there. there are "auto" buttons for everything on my 22 es 350 just love this care for all the right reasons.
If you turn off Lexus Concierge you can link the driver and passenger temperature controls so that they adjust together.
The ES 350 is the best entry level car and you don't need to make 6 figures to afford one.
That's exactly what I was thinking, too. I was very pleasantly surprised by the good price when I learned they start at $40k.
@@CytotoxicTrev you can literally get a c300 Benz for the same price. Maybe I’m just posh and Benz fanboy but for the amount of money this car costs it seems very underwhelming. The only thing they said is really great about it is that it’s extremely comfortable and quiet. That in opinion is NOT worth 40k.
I'm blessed to make 6 figures and I still bought a ES350 F Sport. I have a family of 4 so comfort and safety were important. Also, low maintenance, unleaded gas, reliability, appearance package (F sport trim) were perfect for me. I wanted to own my luxury car for a long time. Lexus was really the only option. I was tempted at buying a E53 amg, BMW m3, or Audi S5 sportback. Again, reliability ruled those out.
@@TheMaybelater2 ES350=utmost reliable C300=semi reliable
,,,,, nuff said.
You can still get the GS350 F sport AWD.
I’m 19 and I’m planning on getting one in December
Nice I’m 15
6:20. Nailed it. Perfectly describes my disappointment with this car. I love the look of it inside and out. I love that it's refined and full of new tech. But I hate how, being FWD, it's just a tarted up camry/Avalon once again. Was why I chose the current IS over the ES really...and we don't get a 3.5L in Australia...so yeah...
would you buy one? 🤔
or do you recommend one for that price? 😬
An awd ES with a turbo inline 6 would be epic
I just watched a video of bmw x4 vs Audi sq5 and someone said I forgot the name but he said the steering wheel was as thicc as his Ex
It's about that damn time Lexus made the ES model an F Sport. It would be great if the drivetrain was made into AWD
James is the only person that likes the infotainment
4:26 the street 😂
I got used to the remote touch system in my NX with no problems. Also, confusing the SOS button for the sunroof controls is a bit of a stretch. That never happens. The menus themselves are fine but I do wish for absolute positioning with the system. I believe that the new Acura RDX system is based on the Lexus system but all the kinks are ironed out. The Acura system is what the Lexus system could be, and should be, if they just changed some things.
Lexus system is more then fine when you get used to it, the people who complain are car reviewers who won't live with it daily, or older people who can't adapt to less user friendly electronics
@@Toymonkeyjr not all old farts like me have a problem with electronics just bad electronics. my 22es has a beautiful touch screen now
@@davidpoto9856 it's actually better then regular touchscreen, you can actually sue it while driving and not be distracted. I would like it in all my newer cars. I prefer no electronics, but you can't put a screen in front of me and have me not mess with it some while driving. The controls on the Lexus are intuitive and efficient.
BAD SEAT DESIGN
Same exact car bought 2nd hand yesterday..
It’s a good car, just the FSport seat bolsters are killing my thighs!
You’re wrong about the grill on the non Fsport, it’s the best feature.
I have this car it’s my second lexus and they went all in with the interior refinement. It feels like a much more expensive car, in respect to material choices and design, the drive is very smooth and if you click it into sport mode when you take corners it can fool you into thinking it’s rwd. Somehow the car makes very tight turn ins and the rear behaves very tidy. My only gripe is bc it’s made in America it’s the first lexus I’ve ever been in that does have some panel rattles when the music bass is bumping. My IS I had was made in Japan and the panels were so tight nothing rattled ever even after 4 years of daily driving over 20k miles per year. A lexus hallmark. Pro-tip for the touch pad…. Control it with your thumb rather than pointer finger and you’ll get much more precise action
You're trying really hard to like or want this car but I don't blame you. I'm with you
Can you please review the Lexus RCF
Fist time I hear someone saying the lexus info ternemant is nice. Personaly , as a canadian I just cant spend 60k on a car that is not sporty and with no AWD.
Went from 08 BMW 3 series to 15 Lexus ES. So far 90k problem free miles. Only oil changes done in 6 years. Still on stock brake pads etc. Next one will be another ES when current one dies......
7:54 umm... everyone in a 2014 and up Lexus IS F-Sport model and the GS F-Sport as well (I believe)
if you put a IS model for the lexus, i bet you get many more views!
did you guys lose sleep over that trackpad?
you can't push the sos button by accident . it has a cover you need to open first lol
I have the previous version, 2018 and I drive over 35,000 per year. It is the most comfortable long haul driving vehicle I have ever owned. The space in the back is massive. I am 6’3” and I never have to move my seat up for rear passengers. The 3.5 liter V6 is amazing, always enough power when needed. In ECO mode I get about 31mpg. As for the quality it is one of the most reliable vehicles on the road, most of these cars for resale have 150k to 200k and still fetch 15,000 or more. I only wish my version had the Apple CarPlay. Also they are American made right here in Kentucky next to its brother the Toyota Avalon. Some people think they are very expensive but I got mine in December 2017 for $8,000 off of sticker or about 20% off list. I love mine and will drive it for at least 120,000 miles before I consider selling it.
the touchpad was a response to the joystick that everybody hated... but i actually grew to quite like the joystick.
Review the lc500 convertible
“F-sport” is mainly an appearance package with firmer suspension and larger brakes. Very similar to M-sport, S-line, amg-sport and A-spec packages.
Perhaps you wanna refer to an actual F and not fsport if want to go to track or better handling or faster vehicle
Thanks gents - I enjoyed the video. A couple of thoughts. You didn't really address the value proposition nor did you compare the car to its competition. Is this the best car in its price range considering its mission? You can't compare the ES against a 3 series BMW (much smaller - different mission) and a similarly equipped AWD 5 series is at least $20,000 more expensive. So what would you compare this car to and how does it stack up? I will offer one compliment to you both... as a 50 something "gear head" I roll my eyes when millennial "racer boys" review a car designed for someone my age to drive (in the freezing cold, in grid lock traffic, on the Gardiner) and dismiss it - because it wouldn't be fun on a track. Which is of course ridiculous... Now - while you did make that faux pax, you at lease extolled the virtues of the car's comfort, its plush ride, well built interior and quiet cabin. Which, if I may conclude, is the mission statement of this car. The F Sport is an appearance package. The "F" is the performance mission. Cheers
Quite frankly this was one of the poorest quality reviews and won’t be watching these guys again. Much prefer KBB or Carwow because they usually address the points you brought up.
@@jayhawk09 they growin now old man
I prefer looks and ride of the base version. It’s what a luxury car should be and is 😇
The BEST fwd luxury car money can buy. Period
This car is a bargain and over engineered for its class. I agree it looks sexy in F Sport trim. I like how it gets LS500 seats and LS500 steering wheel from 100k grand cars.
Why I cant past the fact that its Fwd? :/ Ive had Mitsu and Mazdas and one day all I want is a Mazda RX7 and an Lexus LS 2007 up :D
I agree
They need to make it all-wheel drive to compete with other luxury brands. They also need to make the infotainment more intuitive and get rid of the touchpad. I don’t know anyone who really likes that trackpad. It’s gotten so bad we’re all excited about a tuner knob.
The beginning is me when I have to wake up early just to sit in my car for street cleaning at 6 am… have a pillow and blanket in my trunk for this reason!😂
You might have sold me on this from the beginning skit. One important aspect of a car for me is one that is comfortable to sleep in. Once I went through a divorce and lost my job and had to live in my car for a few months. Being a comfortable car to sleep in is incredibly useful because you never know what life throws at you.
I’m sorry to hear this. I’m glad things worked out for you.
2021 model will have AWD. Looking forward to that
I am tired of people complaining about Lexus infotainment system.
It is easy to operate and I’ve never heard complaint from people who have Lexuses complain about it.
The guy with the British accent is right on point. It is easy to use when once you get used to it.
Only these hard head reviewers are having a hard time with it.
I've never used it, but it looks very good - better than the one I tried in the 2018 Audi A6 I expect.
But, any car in the "premium" or higher market space should have both: touch screen on the main display and trackpad so you can choose which you want to use.
yes agreed!
Unpopular car opinion: I think the joystick in my 2016 lexus is300 is very intuitive to use, and I quite like it.
It's really weird that you don't like the fact that the car is comfortable , quiet, reliable , has good resale value and fills the sector for which it is intended. People don't buy a Lexus to go racing . They want a reliable , comfortable transportation vehicle . You should only review cars for those who are 18 yrs. to 30 yrs old that don't need to keep their drivers license and don't mind paying speeding tickets in order to hear their loud roar of the engine each time they go for a drive. Fun is Fun but sometimes it turns into a childish review.
Then you should go to where old folks like you can get your type of content sir. This is boring car not fun to drive. A car has to be fun to drive that’s why I own a Mercedes my friends drive a Lexus and Toyota and Honda but you can tell why the Mercedes’ is tough to fix a lot of engineering goes into there car the Lexus and Toyota is just for people who wanto move from point A to B. I don’t want just that I wanto have fun while I drive not just the engine noise the badge and the status.
Track pad oversteer, lolz!
Funny, but true. If I'm not in my own bed, I prefer to sleep in my car. The only thing missing is not being able to prop up your feet to make it ideal. Would be huge if the manufacturer figured out a way to do this.
Another potential feature (that doesn't exist) is using the car's steering/controls and display for online gaming. Throw in a portable potty and I'd never need to get out of the car. LOL.
😂
tbh no point making this all wheel drive, this isn't meant to be a sporty sedan, the demographic theyre trying to reach just wants a good looking, comfortable vehicle for their commute...and thats it. If u want a sporty sedan from lexus the GS and IS do a pretty good job, a rwd platform with awd available.