"It's Not A Good Idea!" Bertie Ahern on Irish Referendum | PMU
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- čas přidán 12. 05. 2022
- Former Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern joins Piers Morgan to debate the idea of a referendum in Ireland to leave the UK. If so, will it be the beginning of the United Kingdom collapsing as we know it? Bertie describes the effect on Brexit deals made by Boris Johnson which included deals regarding the Irish border and how Boris going back on his word has led us to this point.
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I can’t really get over how he started it off by introducing Ahern as the ‘former Irish prime minister’. If you’re trying to have a conversation about sensitive issues involving Ireland and the UK you could at least go to the effort of using the correct name for his position. He’s the former Taoiseach, that’s the name for the Irish head of government and the last British prime minister couldn’t even be bothered to check how to pronounce it. The sheer level of contempt and dismissal the British parliament and press has for the Irish history and language is really harmful.
The Taoiseach is the Irish Prime Minister just as the German Bundeskanzler and the Italian President del Consiglio are the German and Italian PMs respectively. Apart from not pronouncing the word Tea-Shuck, Piers was actually rather well formed and prepared for the Interview. It was a relatively rare appearance for the disgraced former Taoiseach.
@@patrickmccutcheon9361he said nothing when Irish Republicans in the north were censored and gagged in the 80s and 90s
Bertie is definitely a betting man ;) well according to him anyway, he won a lot of money on the horses…
Money Money Money must be funny, it's bertie at his best.
Ireland needs be free it's our land was took.
Grow up .... as an Irishman from the south I don't want a United Ireland. All we'd get in an inheritance of shit ...
@@Unborn-Stillborn as irishman your full of shite I have Dublin family who want Ireland be united. Your worst brit or loyalist. People in the North re as much Irish as people in the South 🇮🇪👍
Shut up.
Check your history
@@jdfiend he’s correct. Britain colonised Ireland violently and aggressively, even using ethnic cleansing.
This is settled and undisputed history.
Check YOUR history, you uneducated hooligan.
Ironically a well implemented protocol that allows for as seamless as possible movement of people and goods between NI, EU and the UK.
Would help NI become a prosperous place - instead of the draining UK taxpayer money as it does now
Haha 21 comments nobody is watching, serves you right for publishing those fake photos of our boys!!! (I user ad blocker so you got no money of me clicking thus video)
Absolutely.
Sounds auffy familiar…. sounds…. like.. OPERATION FEAR!! Can’t say you weren’t warned! And EVERYBODY loses. Well, not Moggy with his Irish passport…
Bertie is right. The preparatory work needs to be done before a referendum is called. What would be the Irish national flag (unionists won’t accept the tricolour)? Will there be an Executive in the North? What will the national anthem be? How do you merge the police forces? What happens to civil servants based in the North? Will Ulster Scot be an official language? Will July 12th be a public holiday? How do you merge the courts? Etc. Etc.
No prep is needed. NI won’t be joining the RoI. It’s that simple.
@@noodlyappendage6729 I never said NI would join ROI. But at some point a referendum will be called and before that is done then a lot of “grown up” discussions need to be had as to what a United Ireland would entail (as that would be the point of the referendum). I repeat, I’m not saying that NI would vote in favour of it.
@@hickeygrad It’s not actually a given there will be a referendum. It would cause a lot of problems. The last one saw bombs going off in London. They don’t even know what the referendum would be about because they don’t quite know what the question would be. Just saying “unity” isn’t enough. The 26 counties left the UK and now Ireland is partitioned. The two parts are now more diverged then at any point in history.
One in NATO the other not
one in the EU the other not. Soon NI will be a part of a CANZUK free trade and free movement area. The RoI has the € from Frankfurt. NI has the £ from London. NI is a monarch and the RoI is a republic.
@@noodlyappendage6729 yeah so you basically agree with my original comment? Namely, that a lot of work needs to be done before a referendum is called as to what “unity” will look like, and that any talk of calling a referendum is wholly premature and ill-conceived?
Surely you a referendum in Northern Ireland to leave the UK. Ireland is already a republic and not part of the UK.
If there’s to be a United Ireland, the Good Friday Agreement sets out that both the North and the South are to hold their own referendum. A United Ireland will need a majority in both.
@@hickeygradCorrect. And that isn’t going to happen. NI isn’t going to leave its union with GB to join the RoI.
@@noodlyappendage6729 up da ra
@@rapidfirematt Up an organisation which killed many Irish people? No thanks!
@@noodlyappendage6729 yes it will. The artificial statelet of Northern Ireland is crumbling, Protestant unionists are now hugely in decline.
Catholicism is the largest religious group in NI and Sinn Féin is largest party.
Game over. United Ireland inevitable.
A majority on the island like the idea of a united Ireland but economic factors dampen than support down a good bit. The cost of living in RoI is vicious - terrible health service, unaffordable housing - either to rent or to buy. Businesses in NI have been doing well out of the protocol so there isn't much appetite for ripping it up. It's just the DUP doing what the DUP always does - being the ***ch in the manger as usual.
With respect, our health service is better than the NHS. People don't die here waiting for ambulances to come.
You will have a toll border between the North and South(Like Manhattan has with New Jersey) or USA/Canada. You will then have a border between the N.Ireland & the UK like any other travel border.
How about Noooo
@@weelightbuzz4397 their will be no choice unfortunately.
@@JamesJohnAgar never happen
@@jackietreehorn5561 IT will do!
@@JamesJohnAgarit was an illegal imposed gerrymandered state... nothing right about it
Ireland needs to reunite and go it alone. Plus we need to get rid of the dead weight around our necks that is Scotland. Wales too if they fancy their chances.
Im irish and i would love a united ireland but it needs to be done right ..not like brexit! do it slowly and in stages!
Alone ?
@@pauliepatterson yes
Ahern you are not
Somewhat click bate title there Piers
I don't think he does the youtube titles himself
7 of the 9counties of Ulster are European 🇪🇺 and Irish .majority must rule.
More slime from Berty. Unadulterated slime.
This shouldn’t even be talked about. It’s an absolute insult to the United Kingdom. We aren’t going to give up a part of our kingdom and hand it over to the RoI. The people of NI aren’t interested. Northern Ireland will remain united with us (their family) in Great Britain. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a dreamer. God Save the King 🇬🇧 👑
Good luck with that .. United Free Ireland is just around the corner. 🇮🇪🇮🇪
@@patrickkelly5609 You’ve been saying that for centuries. 🕰️
With all respect sir, the brits invaded Ireland and forcefully took it over. The UK has No respect for sovereignty of ireland. Those actions by the UK are insults to the irish people.
Then, the UK made promises to the planters they put on the island based on that stolen land.
Unable to meet the promises, due in no small way to the strong irish resistance shown to brit occupation, freedom from the UK was achieved about 100 years ago. Sadly once again the UK added insult to injury and imposed a very very sectarian border, on the island. The UK dug in its colonial heels, and stayed in the 6 counties area; promising dominence to the decendants of the planters, of "their own".
Thankfully the GFA , only about 25 years ago, ended the bloodshed which that UK insult caused.
To cut a long story short here, it is more than overdue now that the UK just gets out of the island for good.
Let me correct you by saying that NEVER EVER has any piece of the island of Ireland ever been a rightful part of your "United Kingdom". It was taken only by the force of colonial might, and fyi, "might just ain't right no more, at least in the mature democracy and mind-set of 21st century.
Even the UK judge, Lord Denning, once had to describe the british system as being "Appalling Vista". That system, fyi is simply not wanted on the island. Period. You are welcome to keep it.
Apart from some vociferous extremists, with a stale idology of UK colonial, sectarian power, who , btw, are also suffering the frustration of unkept promises made by the UK , nobody, repeat nobody wants the UK presence on the island. Just get out.
Stop insulting the irish people and respect sovereignty. Concluding: the irish too want to take back control of own borders. (Surely you in the UK of all places can understand that desire).
@@timyolanda166 You’re talking to me as though the Irish have never invaded Great Britain. My country is the United Kingdom now not Great Britain. The UK came about through the 1800 Act of Union. 26 counties of that union left. That was up to them. They are now in the EU and are ruled from Brussels in Belgium, and Strasbourg in France. And their currency is the Euro which is controlled from Frankfurt in Germany. Hardly independent 😂 The 6 counties of Northern Ireland have been a part of the UK for over 220 years. They have never been a part of the Republic of Ireland. And they never will be. GSTK 👑 🇬🇧
@@noodlyappendage6729 you just don't get it, do you?..the irish don't want and have never wanted the british rule on the island.
The irish FREELY choose with whom else to engage in this ever more inter-dependant real world we live in.
Your idea of "independence" is btw, somewhat "off the mark" too.
Sure, not everyone is "perfect"...but people are free to choose, ...the brits forcefully IMPOSED selves on the island and forced the brit sectarian rule. But might just ain't right old chap! Cynically "dressed up" under the UK imposed "Act of Union" you refer to, only to give a semblance of some kind of "legality" to wash over the crimes of injustice. Call it a rose by any other name (GB, UK, BRIT, Colonial empire...bla bla bla..call it what you prefer. Same dog, only different fleas.)
Go have a cuppa...albeit an indian or chinese beverage ...it is said it helps you brits feel good in dreamland. Bye bye.