Trevor Noah EVISCERATES the Civility Argument | The Daily Show
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- Conservatives demand “civility” in an attempt to silence critics of the Trump administration, and Trevor points out that calls for civility tend to come from people in positions of privilege.
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"Trump called her an animal,locked her up and threw her kids in a cage, that's what happened to Tolerance."
So did Obama and Clinton. They deported more people than Trump.
Fox News: It's just horrible the way poor Sarah got treated by that restaurant.
Also Fox News: Those crying kids in cages are doing just fine, they are way better off living in cages here than whatever s**tholes they came from.
--- This is America at its peak greatness.
Kim Jong Fun you're being lied to.
Kim Jong Fun...Gospel!
troll, do not feed.
peter g and for us you Troll😉
Kim Jong Fun and I’m sure you were this upset in 2014 when it was going on as well, right???
Is it appropriate for people to protest government officials?
YES. Always. Welcome to the United States.
Needs to be physically too especially when they endanger our live with wars
DANGEROUS water as in Flint.
Completely justified & more of this need to be done to these ZIOMAFIA SATANISTS puppets
@@randyjohnson9772 I can already tell you're on the left.
Hell! yes!! Wake them up from their sleep with protests put them back to sleep with protests let their breakfast lunch dinner be made from protests even when they dies let protests be their farewell speech!! Shit!
@@ovenchicken876 America was founded on protest.
@@kap1618 I'm just saying to not violently protest people. They dont always want to hear your whining.
5:31 "And I like that he says Martin Luther King created racial tension where none existed like Dr. King went into the south and was like: 'Y'all are black.' "WHAAATT?!" xDD 😂😂😂
'I'd like to punch him in the face.'- 'Knock the crap out of him.'- 'Try not to hurt him. If you do, I'll defend you in court.' Maybe he should have been roughed up.'- 'I love the old days - you know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They’d be carried out on a stretcher, folks.' - Donald Trump
edvard brown noticed he said "they" roughed up a guy. You know Trumps a candy ads from hell.
Trump would assume the fetal position if someone got in his face.
If someone ask you politely to leave without screaming, shouting and/or confornting you physically....I believe that is civil enough and respectful.
Except people followed them to another restaurant and attempted to get them kicked out again. This included employees of the original restaurant.
Ok, I'm a liberal, but that's where I draw the line.
They also comped her cheese platter. She got free cheese and a pretty polite rebuke and is now trying to position herself as a victim while kids are in cages.
Dalekcon nope, didn't happen Jack
@ P W www.dailywire.com/news/32278/listen-sarah-sanders-family-harassed-much-worse-amanda-prestigiacomo
www.mediaite.com/trump/mike-huckabee-says-owner-of-red-hen-followed-sanders-family-to-another-restaurant-to-start-a-protest/
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/25/mike-huckabee-red-hen-owner-followed-sanders-famil/
"Are her kids watching this?" I sincerely hope so.
Kids can learn valuable life lessons by their parent's mistakes as well as their successes .
If somebody's being an a-hole, you gotta let 'em know! Maybe they don't realize it.
@@IchCharacter people of the government are not private citizens and no one has went to their house to protest their policies. Rather, in a public setting, they were protested, which is protected since in the US, we have freedom of speach and the right to participate in the political system. Regardless of what political party the person belongs to, we are allowed to voice our opinions to those in all forms of government, as as you don't harrass them. In this situation, everything was done right. You can't apply policies and laws and not have people react to them. Being in government is not a 9 to 5 job. People are effected regardless of the time.
@Fadwa Ashur Harassing people and denying them service outside of work hours is not a question of freedom of speech, especially not if they go into a restaurant with their family. That's not just protesting either, that's simply uncalled for. The restaurant owners are in luck that their state allows discrimination based on political affiliation, otherwise they'd be sued to hell and back, rightfully so, in my opinion. Regardless, I wouldn't consider this acceptable political discourse, especially if a press secretary is attacked, a person that merely conveys information instead of making political decisions themselves. If you don't agree, I suppose you think it's also fine to throw out politicians that try to work towards racial equality and all that because of political view?. Maybe also writers for newspapers if you don't agree with their publisher, because why not?
IchCharacter Personally, I believe in the right of everyone to refuse service. As a gay person, I’d like to maintain the right to refuse to serve a blatantly homophobic person in my place of business. If I went into an extremely homophobic place of business and they knew I was gay for some reason, I’d expect to be kicked out. If you owned a business (or if you do) I think you’d appreciate having the right to refuse service. While we might not agree with the way everyone exercises this right, I believe it’s better to have it in place than to attempt to restrict it based off of our own personal senses of morality. I understand you don’t think it’s civil to refuse service based on political opinion, but imagine if you ran a restaurant and a group sporting red arm bands came in. Personally, I’d be thankful to have the right to refuse them service because I disagree with their political opinions.
Gina Cuba So, if I were a racist, why shouldn't I be allowed to refuse service to black people? I thought we were over segregation and such, but I guess some people wouldn't mind having it back. Political opinions should be no more grounds for discrimination than religious beliefs or skin color. I believe it's part of being adult to tolerate people with different opinions and interact with them, even if you don't like what they have to say. I would consider it childish to refuse someone service, even if that person said terrible things about me or any group I'm a part of or associate myself with. I wouldn't give them a minute of my private time, but refusing someone service over such nonsense is rather stupid and only serves to fuel the deepening divide in American society. If you want another civil war, that might be the way to go, but I don't think a lot of people do. Unless the person in question is committing a crime with their statements, I don't think there are any grounds for refusing them service.
Tolerance didn't have to bake a gay cake.
LOL, I love the right with their "what happened to tolerance?" Reminds me of a woman who said "This never happened before Obama became president."
Fox news asking for civility and tolerance is like t'rump asking Melania to be more faithful in marriage.
I can still find the "art" made by racists of Obama lynched in effigy. Then again, someone made an "art" piece of Trump shooting himself in the head, so I guess we've reached about the same levels of civility/animosity. They honestly have no right to complain nor to ask for civility when they've never given it.
War, children, it's just a shot away! It's just a kiss away!
If you are in the public eye
And lie for a living...you get full scrutiny unbound as if you are in front of the camera.
But my religion requires that I not serve members of the Trump Administration.
Good, Trump 2020. Pence 2024.
I actually prefer not having a Clinton or a trumpster in the next elections.. thank you
Best response ever.
Battle of Valmy smart yes, decent well if you compare her to her mother than yes, other than that She is a corporatist herself took 20k on speeches about Diarrhea.
If she can make money of that she'll certainly sell you out for a quick buck like her mother.
Jim Fortune I just found a book called To Serve Trump Administration Members :)
Show some civility? Just like Trump is showing civility in his tweets and rallies? SMH. Talk of hypocrisy.
The irony of that stance is that by arguing against their call for civility you lose the ground to criticize Trump for not having it without becoming a hypocrite. I detest Trump's personality, his politics, and the way he treats people. However I also think that they as people should be treated with maturity and civility the same way I would treat anyone whether I like or dislike them, whether I agree or disagree with them. When I was a child I would lash out and insult and just try to hurt people if I didn't like them or they upset me...but then I grew and realized that that only diminishes myself and makes me someone I don't like.
Generic Futon You have to adapt and be willing to change tactics in order to win. That's why conservatives have won and Trump is president. They upped their game. If you choose to stay the course of civility against the opposition now, you're only ensuring more of the same. The right play is to adapt, and then one-up.
The opposition has taken the tactic of slinging mud since the beginning...and it is why they lost. Instead of showing why they are great for America they instead try to win by saying Trump is bad. By staying the course of escalation of deteriorating civility they are continuing to stubbornly use the same failure of a tactic they have been attempting for 2 years now.
It is time to adapt and to stop bashing the opposition and instead show a better option, not more of the same garbage that we have (garbage is a reference to Trump administration).
Generic Futon: The better option will be to have a president who is civil, who doesn't use Twitter to berate and attack everyone. He can be a Republican, Democrat or Independent. Don't believe what conservatives had been saying all along. The economy was doing great, unemployment was trending lower. Yes, wages were flat, but they continue flat. Average gain of 2.8% over the last year is just peanuts. The tax cuts, in my opinion, is irresponsible, just to have bragging rights as the biggest tax cut in the history, which have been proven to be a lie anyway. I mean, you can have some tax cuts, and some cuts on regulations and still have the almost the same effect. The tax cuts have not translated to the big wage growth as it was being sold. Instead they it has been used for executive bonuses, and stock buybacks, hence the surge in the stock market. Also, the cuts are going to cost the country almost $2 trillion. And to make up that deficit, he is proposing all these tariffs, which is actually a tax on consumers. But Trump is selling it as being tough on China, and US allies.
A country is not only about the economy, there are other factors too: Education, the arts, sciences, social wellbeing, etc But he seems to ignore the other stuff and just focuses on the money aspect. Don't get me wrong, a strong economy is always good to have, but what about the quality of life. The president of the United States sets the example for the rest of the country to follow. If all he does is to insults, attacks, berates, then we shouldn't expect a call for civility from others, and not from the leader himself.
"Smack 'em around. I'll pay your legal bills"
You killed it, Trevor. Always keeping it 100. Thank you.
She was taken aside and politely ask to leave. It's time people's start to stand up and " say enough of the lies that affect our lives."
@gjaddajg Yeah a restaurant could totally legally do that.
@gjaddajg Yes they could, you have the right to refuse service. and there's biggots in every group.
@gjaddajg Ok Cite the Law prove me wrong,. Also if what your saying is true, then you can't do it for any race black white blue whatever. My friend on a college campus does not serve feminists, Others stores will kick out the homeless even if they come with money to buy things they will be asked to lave. if it is a bigotry then it is one applied to everyone.
Thank you providing me the law As for the point I don’t think this is a sjw thing I personally feel like resturauntsncan perhaps it’s not legal but say a literal Nazi ( not the media’s fake nazis someone who is well known to be extremely racist )walled in and people starting complaining the restaurant will be inclined to ask them to leave
@gjaddajg I don't know all the details i know the gay couple were the ones at fault to me for the bakery, but if this was the same the woman was in her right to sue.
I don't know why but I feel that in this video, the daily show is taking a step forward into denunciating problems in USA. Keep it going like this, hopefully thing will catch up
For information, I am European, and so not 'directly' concerned by this, and the daily show is close to my lone information media on what is going on in the US
Vincent. Don't just rely on left wing shows like the Daily Show for your information on the US. It's always one sided. Get a mix like I do. With the mix. I have come to understand how the left wing media lies and lies and lies. The right wing media is also one sided. So, that's why get both.
The daily show should be a comedy show. Ever since trevor noah stepped in it’s become a left wing news channel with laughing tracks thrown in.
Vincent Barreau correction, if we don't get a handle on this Trump thing I'm afraid the alliance between the USA and Europe may completely self destruct so I'm afraid Europe is directly effected by this.
A meme Kiwi I know. Isn't it wonderful ?👍😀🇺🇸😀👍
So many triggered Republicans in the comments.
Sarah just needs her safe space, I guess.
My conservative friend, on the baker refusing cake to a gay marriage said that a person has the right if he doesn't to serve anyone he shouldn't be forced. But on Sarah he said it was wrong.Shouldn't happen.
Double Standards.
Gay people do not choose their orientation. Ms Sanders chooses what she stands for. It is a fundamental difference.
MUHAMMAD DAWOOD I know.
History is so soon forgotten and so often repeated.
What you said resonates even more seeing that human attention span is at an all time low.
alexander williams indeed. The old saying is true, history repeats itself.
So....I should see if my grandfather's WW2 Garand is in storage cause I might need it?
all of this has happened before and all of this will happen again
Nice quote
"I believe in freedom, Mr. Lipwig. Not many people do, although they will, of course, protest otherwise. And no practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed, it is the freedom upon which all the others are based." -Lord Vetinari, Going Postal
Charon85Onozuka ABSOLUTELY UNDERRATED
Always quote the best.
When public servants fail to serve the public the public should be able to refuse service to officials. I've seen restaurants with signs stating the right to refuse anyone.
They don't want civility, they want reverence.
Agreed, Sanders wants Idolatry and yet she is supposedly religiously Christian. But she pretends to take the high road, after making a fuss. The high road is saying nothing. What she wanted to do was play victim and draw admiration to herself.
Sanders isn't Trump. Having said that, there is an argument to be made that Trump can't help being Trump, but Sanders chooses to turn up for work each and every day.
good one
Elena Christian Wow! Very well, drop the mike, said!!
Yet, they deserve neither.
I love how Fox News is freaking out over the red hen denying to serve Sarah Sanders but lifted up that baker who wouldn't bake a cake for a gay wedding as some sort of religious hero
Chris Hayes has said it the best, feel free to harass elected public officials, but do NOT treat them violently. When Tomi Lahren had water thrown at her, that crossed a line, but it's a person's right to publicly criticize them.
Brandon Davidson totally agree
She's not an official tho? She's a private citizen.
wow. thanks Trevor, just when i almost felt bad for her situation. We are so lucky to have you
When a government becomes oppressive to a people, the people have the right to overthrow the government. Declaration of Independence.
Marvis Smith people these days don't have the stones to do that. Those days are long dead as they sit behind their pc's, phones and tablets. The government is "for themselves". It stopped being "for the people" eons ago. Instead they keep us divided behind red or blue. It's working flawlessly. Your either a bigot or a snowflake. Wake up people is what I'd like to say but it's way too late for that.
And yes my grammar was off, my apologies since I'm quite positive that will be mentioned. As far as who I voted for? No one, because every candidate was utter garbage. I exercised my right not to vote. Pay attention to those tariffs that are being implemented, watch as prices rise across the board. Sounds good from up top, but when suppliers who bought Chinese get hit with higher costs it will filter down to the common man and woman where the pain will truly be felt. The people suffer while the government thinks they put one over on China. All those policies we pulled out of...no country will ever trust us to keep our word again, regardless of who is elected next. God Bless America.
Marvis Smith this comment shows you have no clue of what real dictatorships are like
stephancalvino You nailed it. I don't know though, it depends how far the government is willing to push the opposition in this country. Remember, this nation is a never ending experiment. Theoretically if they push hard enough there is a breaking point and it would be time to take to the streets. This is why we still need a 2nd Amendment.
@Eternal
Exactly. RIP 1960's.
No justice, no peace.
So if I have this correctly you can refuse to make a cake because of religious beliefs but not refuse service because of any others beliefs? If they had made Sarah leave for religious reasons would that have been different?
dragonsangel7777 Do you not understand the difference between Masterpiece cakeshop vs Colorado and this? Masterpiece cakeshop was an artistic representation, they would sell anything to the gay couple in the store so long as they weren't forced to make a wedding cake specifically for their gay wedding. in fact they would bake a normal cake, they just wouldn't artistically decorate the cake in the fashion that they wished. This is a completely different matter, you can't deny service to someone when that service is available to everyone else. There's a clear difference between these two cases.
Caden Bigler of course there are differences but there are also simularaties. Refusing service is refusing service
@Caden Bigler Lol, what? Masterpiece cakeshop vs Colorado IS Denying service to someone when that service is available to everyone else.
Everyone else gets their damn wedding cake.
Damn bible thumpers and their sky wizard spreading hatred and discrimination
Fandom guy Please explain to me why they would sell everything else in the shop except for specialized artistic expression. Do you understand masterpiece cakeshop? Have you read the case?
That’s because the protection of religious freedoms is in the constitution. To refuse service to people you don’t like is not in the constitution and is more like a form of segregation.
"The Supreme Court ruled in favor of a Colorado baker who refused to bake a cake to celebrate the marriage of a same sex couple because of a religious objection."
Isn't it the same case here?
I thought that they(right) wanted the right to refuse service for honestly held belief....so why does it only go one way?
Salaried employees are paid X dollars per month. The employer of Federal employees is We The People of the United States. It is WE who pay their salaries. WE own their time 24x7.
Woman of Substance Thank you for saying so eloquently what I was thinking. We, the taxpayers, do pay their salaries, and if we don't agree with the way they choose to run things, we have every right to let them know about it. God knows writing to and calling them has done nothing to get their attention, maybe we just need to get in their faces a little more often so that they can see we do, in fact, mean business.
Woman of Substance Here, here!
...Said the KKK/Neo Nazis to the Bernie Sanders administration later.
I don't like Sarah Sanders but that is 100% bullshit, paying someones salary does not mean you own their time 24x7.
The owner of a company you work for cannot tell you what to do all the time just because they pay you.
azuman7 Because they certainly have been known for their restraint, right? And their nonviolent ideas of protest.
It's amazing how quickly they've managed to spin *children in cages* like that's not a big deal
Love how a baker is allowed to deny lgbtq+ couples because it's against their religion to bake a cake for a "sin". But how dare resturants refuse to serve those who don't have morals. Politics are ridiculous and we're all going down fast.
This is the same thing that I have been thinking the entire time. Why is it okay for a bakery to refuse a gay couple because of their religious beliefs. the gay couple are just ordinary people but a government official can't get spoken to in public ? this is not a communist country we have the right to challenge our political leaders
I guess for folks who have no morals it isn't a sin. They will tell you when it's a sin 1984 much?
When has the argument been made that they weren't allowed to choose not to serve her? Either you're disingenuous or stupid. The argument was whether it was civil or not, not whether they were allowed to do it.
This just goes to show you that there will always be those who think "You're being too mean." when you protest. But as long as you are non-violent their is no such thing as "too mean." All protests, regardless of history, where met by push back. What makes a protest strong is the fact that despite the pushback you keep the protest strong. That's what has the GOP so scared. They know if they don't put a stop to these protests then they'll get overwhelmed by them.
Don't stop protesting just because someone's feelings get hurt. That's nothing compared to what the protesters themselves have to go through.
Andrew Owens well i mean protestors outside of planned parenthoods will scream babykiller to a woman entering for a routine check up just devils advocate
Funny thing is the ones calling on the protesters are the least physically involved -- just their big mouths and the cush lifestyles they are so endearing to keep.
"Ya'll go protest 'cause we say they are evil and corrupt. We gonna be on the sidelines and do nothing but run our mouths."
Lifestyles of the rich, elites, establishment self serving group think tribes.
"Mexican?! Not Welcome here!
Muslim?! Not Welcome here!
BLM?! Not Welcome Here!
Table for 6, please... Not welcome? Omg, I'm a helpless victim!"
So then you agree it is fine to not welcome people because of your personal opinions about that person? Race aside, religion is a choice the same as political views, so are you of a mind that it is okay to discriminate? Or are you just being intellectually dishonest because you are taking glee that someone you don't like is suffering and so now find the form of them being hurt fine now that it is going against someone you don't like?
Generic Futon love the Trump shirts that say ‘fuck your feelings”. Look it up. There is no civility from Trump with his disgusting mud slinging of his opponents to his supporters saying poor Sarah. She is such a victim. Cry me a river.
I am not justifying the atrocious actions of Trump supporters or his people, I am saying that I would rather not see the opposition become as bad as him and his people. When a child throws a tantrum is that justification for an adult to throw a tantrum? I honestly don't care about her feelings I just hope for better from the people who are supposed to stand for a better future.
Religious freedom is written into the Bill of Rights... there is no amendment that protects people who lie to the public. I think you're the one being intellectually dishonest if you're comparing this to religious discrimination
The constitution applies to government not private actions, but ultimately my arguments are not about laws but about behavior. What I am saying is that the act of discrimination is a dangerous act because it can lead to many dark places. In history we have examples of political discrimination achieving as bad of results as religious discrimination. The red scare was not to long ago and led to many lives being ruined over political discourse. In many countries today people are victimized based of political beliefs.
In my work I work with people who have fled there countries due to political persecution and seek asylum. You are speaking from a place of privilege in that you live in a country where currently political differences do not mean your life is at risk, but that can quickly change and has happened in the past when people have believed that they were right and it was justified to silence the opposition.
So no I am not being intellectually dishonest, I am being consistent in the fact that I recognize that discrimination in all its forms if a potentially deadly action and allowing this to escalate should scare the shit out of people.
Thank you Trevor- I always feel better after watching your monologues :)
I listened to your book, Born a Crime. I thoroughly loved it. There's nothing like getting entertained and educated at the same time!
"The Person winning in Monopoly is never the one flipping the board." 😂💯✊👏👏
Well said, Trevor. Well said.
This was so fu*king spot on!
Mo b OKAY! SO JUST TO BE CLEAR I AM AGAINST RACISM
BUT YOU JUST CROSSED THE LINE WITH WONDERWOMAN BEING BLACK IN UR PIC
okay honestly, it was dumb before to talk down on republicans and ppl who disagree before, but it kinda gets scary at this point. Dont these ppl see that they have become what they once tried to get rid of?
the GOP hypocrisy always amazes, no matter how many times per day it happens.
If it's civil to refuse service to someone because you disagree with their sexual orientation, it's civil to refuse service to someone because you disagree with their government policies. Just saying.
So your argument is that you would rather allow people to deny service because of sexual orientation as long as you get to deny service because of politics than say that neither scenario is okay?
+1 and other ppl sexual orientation dont affect you but gov policies can kill you
Being refused service doesn't effect you until enough people decide to do so...which frankly in these days wouldn't be many. Also what about if it isn't with a politician? What if it is just someone you know is conservative or liberal? Also if the government is so oppressive that you are afraid of death then you already wouldn't be able to protest as you would be in some Gulag somewhere....
I am not saying there needs to be a law arresting these people for doing what they did...I just find them to be as bad as the right when they resort to such tactics.
beingr efused service by the government is the worst, I think ppl are also protesting that. remember kim somethng who refused to marry gays ?
Generic Futon We need fighters right now. People willing to stand up and fight for the soul of this country. So if that doesn't describe you, kindly get out of the way.
Also, government policies can kill without the government literally murdering you. Republicans doing away with the pre-existing conditions provisions of the ACA is one example.
Actually, the owner of the Red Hen was quite polite with Ms. Sanders. She informed her privately of the decision to ask her to leave and gave her the staff consensus reasons for doing so. She also did not ask her party to leave. The entire event was quite civil and polite. Also, the protest at Ms. Nielsen's meal in the Mexican Restaurant, while more dramatic and vocal, went down without any violence. Donald Trump, on the other hand has been filmed repeatedly encouraging his supporters to beat people up. Why do I feel confused about the definition of public civility...or is it only the administrative elite who are supposed to be given deferential treatment when they act with inhumane impunity?
If I Lived In The Area, I Would Gladly Pay Patrionage To The Red Hen For There Bravery & The Mature Way They Chose To Handle The Situation. They Shouldn't Get Run Out of Buisness Beacuse The President & White House Press Secretary Chose To Bitch On Social Media To Rile Up There Fanatic Base, All Done On Government Accounts Might I Add, Now Where Exactly Is The Civility In That I Might Add? It Still Must Get Worse Before It Gets Better Sadly, That's What Those Who Supported Trump Out of Peer Frustartion of The Political System Understood Would Happen If He Was Elected...
White Chocolate - [citation needed]
White Chocolate - Aww, daddy Mike comes to poor, widdle Sarah's defense with a bullshit story and absolutely zero evidence or witnesses? It's cute how you choose to believe that.
Considering what a bitch she is, why didn't Sarah Huckabee Sanders mention this herself, when she took the opportunity to shit all over that restaurant's owner in her tweet?
How come no one in her family recorded any of this?
Why haven't any witnesses confirmed this story or recorded it?
Surely if the owner followed Huckabee outside and "organized a protest" [sic], like her dad claims, there'd be witnesses to such a scene?
All you have is her dad's lies (he could be repeating his daughter's lies for all we know), and oh look: all three media carrying this story, The Washington Times, Mediaite and Laura Ingram have no evidence either. They're just repeating Mike Huckabee's claim. Zero corroborating evidence from elsewhere. Just the usual right wing rumor circle jerk.
Don't get me wrong: it could have happened, but I repeat: [citation needed]
I love how Fox and Friends is more triggered by a child watching his mother being confronted by political opponents than by children getting separated from their mother. These people have no soul 😞
The Republicans quit being civil with Newt Gingrich. If you want to save democracy instead of bowing to the dear leader then PROTEST!
Zhu Bajie back up. Saint Ronnie Was a great supporter of the "christian right". He needs to be included.
Are the Democrats capable of protesting without violence or discriminating against others? I feel like you've been having trouble with this bullshit for 50 years....
Idunno.. let's ask the bunch of neonazis that beat down a guy, in front of cops that was just looking on...
Or, better yet, let's ask the guy, who drove through a bunch of people, murdering one, why the tolerant left doesnt tolerate the intolerant .. is the left supposed to sit down, and turn the other cheek, while you lash out because of your perceived lose of masculinity? Standing there, with your smoling guns, yelling "the left did something like this, Im off the hook!!"
Jerry K (citation needed)
Alrighty then. It's just fine and dandy for any bakery to refuse a customer who wants a wedding cake because, for their own moral and ethical reasons, the baker does not approve of the wedding. However, it's somehow NOT OK for a restaurant to turn away someone because they do not approve of that person's morals and ethics. Juuuust a little hypocritical, huh?
jcspider Fucking right!!
jcspider
Read the full cake story then talk about it.
He would have sold them cake but wasnt willing to do the decoration to that they requested.
Also many Rebs are not saying that it is wrong that they asked Sara to leave they are just disappointed that it happened.
Werent Dems the party that wanted those "treat everyone equally"-laws
Of course there are many who are hypocrites on both sides.
Samuel Silver discrimination against a person based on them being a member of a particular demographic they didn’t choose to be is entirely not equivalent to discrimination against an individual who is willingly complicit in an immoral government administration
jcspider -- Actually, it is not analogous. The vast majority of gay people do not choose to be gay, but everyone chooses their political ideology and their willingness to impose the ramifications of it on someone else, like S. Sanders is doing.
narga
So you are saying that if person cant change his/her thing be it anything that places him/her in that demographic he/she should not be discriminated against?
Meaning you are making argument that if person is born with it(or it has been made permanent in other ways) then you cant use that to discriminate against him/her?
Wouldnt pedophiles also then fall under that "do not discriminate"-group?
They cant change themselves any more than gays can(Even though both groups have their own "treatment/conversion" programs)
"immoral government administration"
Even Jesus was seen as such an agitator that he was literally crucified for it
And by his own people such as it was.
Slava Botcharnikov There is a lot of evidence (mostly in writings aside from the dead sea scrolls) that suggests that Jesus was indeed real. The thing that everyone wants to know, however, is if he truly was the son of God. Jesus is largely considered to have been a real person, people just aren't sure if he is a diety.
Existed or not, you can't deny that Jesus history of being considered a agitator and enemy of the state can be related to another histories like from King. The only difference it's that King didn't end up crucified ( not for lack of wishing from the racist I'm sure )
Jesus Christ 😂😂😂😂
Jesus called outsiders "dogs" when they asked for help. You might want to read different fiction books for a hero.
I’ve been out of the US for almost a year studying abroad. I came back to family separation and baby jail...my time away ended too soon 😐
Remember when that guy refused to make a cake for the gay couple because of his "religion"? And everyone was just fine with that? Oh, how the tables have turned.
Shouldn't this be compared to the baker that refused cake to a gay wedding? Supreme Court said it was ok, so no problem giving a little back, eh?
Alex Fischer I know right there being so hypocritical.
iGBk yeah, right. And Earth is flat
iGBk doesn't make a slight difference when it comes to the "why he did it". And I was actually mocking your comparison. You may try to rationalize all you want, but she suffered a minor pinch compared to the brutality they inflict on others.
And where did you read about this "following around" thing? I didn't find this information in any of the fake news I'm used to read. If this happened, I'm just glad I nobody tried to take her kids away
Alex Fischer Saw another commenter making this claim in another thread. . . I'm guessing Gateway Pundit. Breitbart lies too, but GP is known for making stuff up out of whole cloth.
As was the restaurant owner denying Sarah the privledge of her artistic cuisine. Suck it up snowflake!
a Lady shamed Governor Scott here in Florida for his healthcare policies in Starbucks. So yay for the first amendment.
KindessisEternal I’m a fellow Floridian. I’m from Broward county. What county are you from?
KindessisEternal That's awesome, he's a monster.
Haha, wish I coulda seen it. When I moved to Florida a year ago I was stripped of all my medicaid, and therefore, treatment. Now he's currently running political ads bashing his opponent for being old. Seems like a stand-up guy.
yep, yay for the first amendment. it allows citizens to express their opinions on politics, even if it irritates politicians. what’s your point?
KindessisEternal Then he released an attack ad calling the woman a “Latte Liberal.” I’m not kidding, look it up.
Part of the job in our government is to listen to and represent the people. If the people are taking the opportunity to express their opinions to you it’s your job as part of the government to listen
You know that this will end up bad?
So you're cool with your customers finding out where you live and protesting a bad experience with your company at your house? You work for the company, you are responsible for it 24/7, right? Freedom of speech to protest and you think it's cool to do it on private property any time of day or night, right?
Why is it no surprise that the snowflakes who insult, demean, and offend anyone who disagrees with them melt into puddles of whimpering self-pity when someone dares to use their own tactics against them?
Jim Fortune Why is your party and followers all the sudden acting so butt hurt when they get an equivalent reaction to the garbage your party dishes daily?
Nicholas Andershock
WTF you talkin' about Willis?
I think the two of you are on the same side of this arguement tbh......
I'm a snowflake, and have always thought that civility is bullshit. I'm glad it's dead.
am I the only idiot who doesn't know if snowflake means democrat or republican?
Bloody brilliant Trevor, well done lad.
Dragonk116
I heart you Trevor!!!!
The use of the old footage...A+
Sharingan?!
Ro G I liked that too reminds how much it really has not changed
It's not just our right to protest and heckle them, it's our constitutional duty.
Awesome! Thanks Trevor.
thank you
When they call for 'civility' what they're really saying is "Shut up and take it" Well, people said enough is enough.
Joe Duke murder?
Joe Duke Let me clue you into something Trumpflake, Democrats have guns also.
It’s only a matter of time civil war 2
it's a question of who would win the world's sympathy you know.
as the world as a whole is moving towards empathy being a ruling force, as more people get educated and more people get a right to speak out and make a difference, we will see the people in extreme power and riches become more and more disliked as all that wealth came from others that did the work to create the products for it, and they are living horrifically in comparison to the person who essentially scammed them for the worth of their work.
humans will either die out or eventually move into a future where the people has vastly more power than the individuals in high positions.
as educated people want freedom to enjoy their lives and with freedom comes the ability to act against what you see as wrong, which develop your empathy, and with empathy comes the fact that looking at someone that made hundreds of millions of the back of people who are starving and dying horrifically because they lack the basic resources to survive, partly because they are vastly underpaid compared to the profit that they are using their time and ability to create;
the victims who got massively scammed for the worth of their work, which made the individual incredible rich by either overpricing when selling, scamming the consumers, or underpaying when buying, scamming the seller, from the people who actually made it.
Joe Duke You sound like one of the REAL Republicans who were trampled into the mud by these fake Republicans
republican empathy ... why are they doing this to meeee
Each point is brilliantly awesome.
Well done!
Where were these people when LGBT people were being turned away from restaurants and bakeries because of their lifestyle?
Apparently Jade it only matters if it agrees with them. If not, they’ll just use the religion excuse or something else. For a party of morality, they’re a bunch of hypocrites.
Exactly.
Apparently Jade meh, those so-called pundits were "off the clock" at that time
Apparently Jade I know right.
Apparently Jade they were the ones asking people to leave their businesses and trying to pass a law to make legal
Freedom of speech doesn't sleep. But we loose sleep over their decisions. If you don't want that attention, find another job.
Say it as it should be SAID!!!
True talk Trev.
love it! shared it!
What happened to tolerance? President said 0 tolerance. People is just abiding to the law.
Maybe they should bake a not-gay cake that says "What happened to tolerance"
At first I was against what red hen did to Sarah but then Trevor made me see the light of day.Sarah is in the administration and has a say in decisions that affect people's lives.As a result if people dislike the policies that she supports and has a say in they can refuse service to her because in doing so they're protesting the government since she is a part of the government.I would be saying the same thing if this was a spokesperson for a democrat.
Rouskey Carpel Thank you. Nice to read a balanced comment, from someone who openly admits that they can change their mind ever so slightly when presented with different perspectives. Refreshing
They followed her family across the street to scream at them from the side walk.
First Amendment says we have an inalienable right to speak to our government. It makes not limitation on time, place, age, sex, race, etc. There is no limitation. If you're a member of government you have an undeniable obligation to hear what those around you are saying for better or worse.
Robert Gilbert- No, troll, they did not.
EXACTLY. Her day job has an effect beyond her working hours--and she needs to see that.
Right on💥 Hell yeah.........
It's absolutely a-okay to deny service to gay people ,but when it comes to gov officials suddenly it's morally wrong....wut?
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!
spot on, Trevor!!!
Sarah Sanders mother of lies...LOL😄
Leroy Brown
Go away Russian BOT.
Not mother,
just babysitter of lies.
So exiling mlk from his state is okay because exiling sara from resturants is okay. Got it.
If we are going to say it is ok to have gays protested at all times, then we can do politicians.
"But the first amendment is for me, not people who disagree with me!"
Check out the comments section about this topic on a right-leaning channel. It's terrifying how their minds work.
TrickWithAKnife What minds?!@😁😂
It's painful to discuss issues with them, because they see in terms of gain and loss, not fair/unfair."If it helps me, it's right."
They are unwilling to hear that "The right thing will help you, or sometimes help someone besides you, but it's helping someone."
Like the Berkeley rioters that created destruction because of a person with different views who was going to give a speech?
So words are more powerful than actions?
Apparently so, with those whose ideology is challenged with a different view.
If there was a way to communicate with the right in a way that helped them empathise with people outside of their perceived groups, America would become a much better place.
A lot of people will shit talk the right, but that helps no-one. They need to be made to feel included. That's when they will start to care what happens to others, as they will see themselves in these groups that they would otherwise feel no connection to.
And yeah, I'm just as much of a hypocrite as anyone else, sometimes.
Sweetteawillie never pretend words are meaningless. If anyone has ever told you "thank you" or " I love you", you'll know that words have meaning.
Rioters are rioters. No normal person likes rioters. It's a lie to pretend an entire political wing supports riots.
Protests are a defended right, and people were mostly offended by that speakers call for 'Bloodless ethnic cleansing" to remove non-whites from the US, (and Europe in some circles.)
That's why they were heavily protested. Any Ethnic Cleansing is a dangerous 'different view'.
Riots are a separate despicable issue.
Constitution doesn't protect anyone from discrimination for political ideology. We pay her salary and she does a terrible job. It's no different than a business owner turning away customers wearing white hoods or swastikas. I can't say if she's a racist or fascist, but she certainly acts like one and works for one. As press secretary, she put herself in this position and I don't feel sorry for accomplices.
What a great video. Trevor Noah is AWESOME!
what happened to tolerance? yeah, what happened to tolerance when a homophobe refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple AND won the case when they sued him? what happened to tolerance when two black men were arrested for literally just existing in a starbucks because one worker felt attacked? those news reporters should feel ashamed for even using this word.
You mean the two black men who won their lawsuit and had the majority of the population support them and have become famous for it? Surely the brief time they were arrested has ruined their life and made it worse than all the fame and attention has benefited them. Not touching the cake argument because I personally don't like refusing service for such reasons....but I'm consistent in that I think ALL people should show tolerance and maturity.
You do realize that by using those moments of intolerance to justify further intolerance you ARE justifying those moments too. This is not a good situation as the other side will see this and eventually decide to say 'eff it' and retaliate...which then will cause this side to retaliate...and a spiral of escalation will eventually start....and then there will be someone shooting up a congressional baseball game aiming at politicians.....again...
"..but I'm consistent in that I think ALL people should show tolerance and maturity."
So I'm assuming you didn't vote for Trump.
Your assumption is correct, I despise Trump as president and am embarrassed to have him as our president.
Generic Futon
The right acts that way 1000 times a day anyway, so I think the left deserves like one every year.
Actually it should be done more, not less. Being nice to bullies doesn't work, you have to stand up to them.
About the cake, the bakers had a problem with the "message" not the actual baking of the cake ffs, I can't go to a jewish baker and ask for my cake to say "Jews are gass fun" they will refuse me, then I cna sue them cause I'm muslim?
Bravo Trevor! You are always really good, but this is one of your greatest. The people who work for that vile person in the White House are as evil as he is, and it is a democratic citizen's DUTY to make their lives as horrid as possible. Being polite to them will not get them out.
Bit too radical there, sir. People who work for Trump are not evil and neither is Trump evil. Left wingers that watch shows like the daily show have a right to think, express and say anything they want. But come on, don't believe that they are evil. That's just a bit crazy. Same thing with the right wing which I consider myself to be in. They painted Obama and Hillary as literal demons. Funny but a bit crazy.
You can't kick someone out if you disagree with their policies but you can kick them out to protest their terrible or corrupt service to the country. They are government officials and they serve the public. Restaurants can refuse service. Racism is not okay. Politicians are held to a higher level.
It worked with Pruitt a lady( school teacher ) with her son said " I like you to step down " somewhere he was and today he resigned !
I said that in another comment " privilege can afford to be civil " , what they gonna protest about the stock ?
So you can deny gay people service, but you can’t deny politicians? Ok 🙄
Alex Avery Gay people are not people to them, they are grouped with "minorities who are threatening America"
Alex Avery well heres the thing. No one is forced by law to do anything. They denied those people service particularly to their wedding. They dont believe in gay marriage and whether or not you think thats stupid is up to you, but thats their right. Just like it was Red Hen's right to not serve Sanders. Free association, as long as discrimination is not made into law, the free market will take care of those who are more or less accepting in however negative or positive way that might be
David James-Cameron did I say I disagreed with the right to deny service? Nope. I’m simply pointing out my disgust of the hypocrisy! So save it.
Duh! They do it so its ok if we do it! Duh! My values are as solid as the ocean! Duh!
Alex Avery well alex heres the issue. I am trying to understand your frusturation, but you have no moral authority to act the way you did. And if you keep acting, or should i say reacting, to people like me who disagree with you, you are part of the problem and only contributing to the divide
*EVISCERATES*
Great segment!!!!!
Awesome job!
This is comedy gold with a lot of truth in it. This better be #1 trend tomorrow.
Trending? The only thing that makes it to trending is stuff like clickbait "My side of the story" or "My grandma does my makeup!"
volcano: "the asshats who own your soul will feed you what you want to hear, then you get so stupid that you actually think that the country doesnt LOVE what Trump is doing." Yes, the country loves what Trump is doing. That is if the country is Russia.
volcano hi Of cours a some ppl love what he is doing, the Trumptards. The majority (popular voto) plus the other millions that didn't vote, plus the other millions of legal residents that are not citizens yet not so much lol.
Dang, so many people triggered by Trevor and social issues in US. Well, don't stop this show America, people around the world really love your new circus attractions.
Excellent!
Love you !!!!!
Nailed it!
I was nodding so hard my neck hurts now. Love these kind of perspective mixed with history TV I would otherwise never watch.
My favorite segment thus far!
Well the answer to " whatever happened to tolerance" is best answered by this quote from Karl Popper. "In order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance." If someone is enacting policies that effect people negatively just because of things like race then that can not be tolerated.
Great Piece Trevor. 👏
Yeah, like the time a bakery owner refused service to Joe Biden but no one flipped.
Hopefully Michael Cohen flips
Politicians: You took the job to represent the people. When you fail to do so, THE PEOPLE REPRESENT!
What are you talking about? How does Trump and his cabinet not represent the people? You guys just believed lies over and over.
Relax. I never said anything about educators. Also, congress has some good people and a lot of evil and selfish corporate interest guys. That's true for both the Republicans and Democrats. However, I will take back what I insinuated. But, when has there ever been a leader that represents everyone in his country?
Alex K Seems we're in agreement there. They never do, so now the people are taking action.
Sinister Sweet People have the right to take that kind of action. But the Trump presidency hasn't really done anything bad. We're just 2 years in and Trump is trying to create jobs and put an end to illegals taking advantage of the U.S. Give him a chance. You may see the results get to you soon.
Alex K, bullshit, Trump has screwed EVERYTHING up, from encouraging divisionism, belittling our free press, pulling us out of the Paris climate accord, Censoring Climate Change information and ordering climate satellites to be shut off, destroying the environment and choosing a corrupt climate change denier as the head of the EPA, lying about everything, Including the fact the known carcinogen Asbestos is well, a cancer cause. Legitimizing North Korea, letting them take advantage of us (all this after almost starting a war.) And more. He sucks, the only results are bad ones.
Illegals are not taking advantage of the US, and he isn't tackling the Job problem correctly.
Seems like counterarguments EVISCERATED this video.
fax
What Counter-Argument? There’s no argument between logical people...You can’t ask ppl to be civil to ideals and policies that are destroying Americans civility. Period. Just because your back room alt-right chat agreed On it doesn’t mean us non lobotomized humans agree with your bullshit.
So I just tried to find the counter argument that you and many others are referring to, and the creator took down the video which was called "Protests Need Not Be Civil" and replaced it with a video admitting that it didn't actually give a counter argument to Noah's points and was just an ad hominem on Noah himself. So... no.
I made a video about civility, and the main counter argument for me against the rational against civility to "fight for justice", is that civility is a vital defense of justice. With incivility you make a might makes right world where the weak have to go under.
Ha! Go to a Trump rally and tell me where the civility is.
It'about time Americans took politics seriously.
directfunebru thank you
Watching Trevor Noah isnt taking politics seriously
directfunebru starting with not accepting any of the lies on shows like this
This is not politics. It’s chaos.
America taking politics seriously that’s hilarious. Wait you’re not joking
*sigh* some of these arguments in the comments "but we have to be civil". Yea. Civility is important for a function society. But this comes down to responsibility. You act a certain way, you cannot call "safe" and think you're immune from backlash and pretend you had nothing to do with it. You might as well wander into the woods, punch a bear and get mad at the bear for striking back. Take responsibility for your actions, you're all supposed to be adults ffs.
Trevor good job
Nice work
fantastic work
no justice, no peace