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- Simon Jordan explains why he believes Gareth Southgate will resign after England were knocked out of the World Cup quarter-finals to France!
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If you let Southgate continue, you’ll end up like Belgium
I know that’s what I’m saying, I’m grateful for what he’s done but I’m worried now if we don’t change we’ll be sleepwalking into disaster just like Belgium
True…
💯
Belgium's best players are old ours are young and still improving.
@@MrSitemaster2 the point being that those players were once young and earmarked as future World Cup/Euro winners and didn't achieve either.
Southgate has done a good job overall but a more tactically astute manager is needed to push these players on. In the words of Claude ‘it’s time to go’!
Who van dam
@@itsmeprasad1987 makelele
RIP Claude.
He hasn't done a good job. The aim of elite sport is to win. He's failed. Get rid
@@scott503 basically every manager since 66 has then.
The rfu sacked Eddie jones who actually made a World Cup final but the FA will give Southgate a 10 year deal for failure
I ain't really a Rugby union fan more football pal but I do take your point tho I believe Eddie Jones has won a world cup tho correct? however in any case southgate ain't good enough I thought they should of made the change when we couldn't beat Italy two years ago in the euro's?🤣
He is the FA’s woke dream
Southgate is a 'safe' manager. Does what he's told. Never rocks the boat. The FA value that more than they do actually winning.
@@simonoliver8576 just over a year ago, it was last summer.
Nonsense, England can win the RFU World Cup; FIFA is so much more difficult than Rugby.
Yes, knowing how not to lose isn’t the same as winning.
Two different mindsets
Exactly, Southgate tries to not lose rather than win
What national team do you support?
Bobby Robson, Terry Venables and Glen Hoddle had the mindset you're talking about when they were England manager. It won us nothing.
@@HuwEvans. why?
@@azapro911 But we as Englishmen couldn't play Football then
We had muddy pitches and played Hoofball most of the time
It was a miracle if an Englishman could pass to each other for 3 mins
Look at Lampard with the young Chelsea squad. As soon as he left, and they brought an experienced manager like Tuchel, everything changed. This is what England needs. A winner.
But now tuchel is gone hahaha
@@imposter-982 Won silverware 😉
Lampard had a transfer embargo and got Champions League football whilst blooding 5 English youngsters from the academy. His problem was an owner bringing in big signings which the manager didn't necessarily want. Lampard's first season at Chelsea was a huge success.
True but international football is not the platform for developing your career as a coach. Top managers don't take international jobs now
True; look at Sir Alex and Mourinho and also Wenger, they didn’t take on an international job
One thing that really annoyed me about the punditry teams on BBC/ITV for the World Cup was that they were under this impression that the Nations League matches, which allowed England the chance to routinely play top opposition, were irrelevant.
Those games highlighted England's inability to beat 'top' level opposition, as well as their problem with scoring from open play against higher level teams. 6 games played, 0 wins, 2 goals from open play and another 2 penalties. They thrash Iran and all of a sudden, that's irrelevant.
One thing Southgate should be credited for is getting consistent results against the teams England are favourites to beat. Sweden in the last world cup and Iran/Senegal in this one. Teams that could be potential banana skins.
However, I don't have any faith in England getting past the very top sides in knockout games. Their football is too sterile and they seem to play with fear whenever they come up against the best. Beating Germany in the last 16 of the Euros last year is Southgate's best result to date, arguably. Even then, have you ever seen a German side as bad as this one? Also, Germany dominated England for a good 70 minutes and missed sitters before England had a kick in that game. Southgate has a bit of the Solskjaer fairy dust in his pocket. With the way England played in the 2018 World Cup and Euro 2020, under a coach with a little less luck they would have been out to Colombia on penalties and Germany would have been home and dry before Sterling scored the opener. Southgate has 'world cup semi finalist and Euro 2020 finalist' on his CV but it was achieved with a lot of fortune. The path to the final in 2018 was very kind and he still didn't make it. England had home advantage at the Euros, were stationed in Wembley for every game bar one while everyone else had to travel around Europe, and had the full support of packed crowds when nobody had support like that for 18 months prior due to the lockdown. They got lucky vs Germany, robbed Denmark and yet Southgate believed his side that had one shot on target in 120 minutes against Italy 'deserved' to win the tournament.
Sometimes I wonder what this crop of players would be like in Guardiola's hands. England have some very technically gifted players, some of whom aren't even used. They have it in them to play progressive football, they have it in them to take games to the top sides. That potential will never be unlocked under Southgate.
100% bang on the money. The manager is championship level and out of his depth.
Someone who gets it. Great comment. Although I would go further to say some of our players are too highly thought of and too often don’t turn up in big games. Possibly a consequence of having higher quality players around them at club level? And if you do look closer, probably half of the England starting 11 don’t start at club level. At least not on a regular basis. So do we really have world class players??
@@cthulhstu Spot on this comment.! Something that has been said for a long time,there lies the problem
Well written, absolutely spot on.
When Southgate was asked why he didn’t play Foden. His reply was he wasn’t in the ‘pecking order’ This manager is useless in making decisions.
He’s had a go and failed..
Time to go Gareth
3 times
Failed? Did you not see how incredible his kneeling was?
Failed? We have gone semis, final, quarters at successive major tournaments. Since 68 and pre-southgate we had made just two semi finals. 90, 96.
@@cdog857 went 1-0 up AND STILL lost in semis vs a croatia side which had taken two previous games to extra time and had an injured gk, went 1-0 up AND STILL lost in final vs a italy side which couldn’t qualify for the next world cup and lost to a french side who were missing many key players
I'm a bus driver and if I had managed that England team I would have got them to quarter finals against the teams we had to play.
England fear is losing France fear is not winning
@@jacknapier6668 England's fear
@@jacknapier6668 It's youtube mate. It ain't that deep.
Worst quote of all time
@@jacknapier6668 cry more matey hahahahaha
Stupid dumbs quote
He's done a decent solid job, but we will never get over the line and win a tournament under Southgate, he falls short when it comes to making those important match winning decisions in the heat of a must win game, we need an elite coach to come now.
yes -he knows nothing about winning..incredible how he even got the job. Like Hodgson, he is bang average.
Even without a manager, you'd expect England's players to beat the weak teams they did. They have good players trained by good club managers. The first time england met an equal team and southgate was needed, he failed again.
the last generation had better players and couldn’t even beat the “weak” teams so this is false
You too young to remember England v Iceland in 2016? England actually used to fail regularly against teams that were weak. Southgate has massively improved our national side.
Summed up perfectly
Think failed is a strong word, we did play really well. Surely though the players should of got it over the line?
Oh yes was defo his fault they mist peno also.
I agree with Simon. Just like the defeats against Croatia and Italy, Saturday night felt like the game had gradually begun to slip away from us, that Southgate didn't take the initiative to change the momentum of the game and wrestle back some sort of dominance or control. Instead the response was sadly somewhat predictable: Frustratingly irrational and (in the case of Grealish's substitution) too late. Southgate has done well, but his ability to read and act on the fine margins in games has been exposed.
Why is he england manager he got sacked at club level
Grealish only came on because John Stones got injured towards the end and needed to go off
I agree with Simon, but I still don't think England are as good as he says. Now, a different manager could come in and win something I'll happily eat my words, but not all of the games he mentioned in the past (the three major tournament losses) were winnable IMO - Italy certainly was, though.
@@user-kt4ri5to7k IMO Croatia were, and still are, greatly underappreciated and underrated.
Some, not all, England fans wrote them off before the SF in 2018, when in reality they had a capable squad captained by one of the greatest players ever, as well as the 'do or die' underdog mentality, which England haven't really ever cultivated due to them being in the nether zone between a good team and a very good one.
reactive rather than proactive. prey rather than predator. prey reacts, predator is proactive. predator wins. Southgate is a deer. Conte is a lion. just for e.g.
And kick Mount out the team at same time as well
No one is talking about how the players lost their heads. The ref and France’s game management led to this yes but we needed to handle the pressure much better. The players were as jumpy as we were watching at home. Why was Henderson running the length of the pitch to close down their keeper? Why was the usually ice cold Bellingham looking like he was gonna burst into tears at every decision that didn’t go his way? I’ll tell you why. 1) Neither Southgate nor our leaders on the pitch calmed the situation before it spiralled. 2) Our mentality going into the game was all wrong. If you think that you’re the inferior team, you will believe that everything needs to go your way for victory. The reffing decisions then became more impactful. The actual inferior team, France were cute. They managed the game perfectly and in the end created the better chances.
This is what they should have learnt from 2018, 2021 composure and assurance in their ability.
Mentally they feel too similar to the side which lost to Croatia.
Spot on, I felt the same way. I wondered about Bellingham he was weeping at every decision. Needed to get on with the game
The difference is that other nations that actually win trophies could have overcome those obstacles and that's what makes all the difference. England fall at that hurdle every time.
Simon what a man.
I am not English but support England since 90’s.FA is killing English football by not bringing manager who can play attacking football. Simon make sense’s 🙏
WE CANT BEAT GOOD TEAMS. FACT. HE NEEDS TO GO.
We couldn't beat them before Southgate.
It is seldom the fault of the manager, as he's not the one kicking the ball; it is the dunces on the pitch to blame for not having the ambition to win.
I hate to say it, but I've never seen an international team have such favourable runs in the last 3 major tournaments..... Not winning one of them they had to chance to has to be seen as a failure by Southgate.....
He's been given enough time. As a man once said, "It's time to go!"
The FA have always wanted a yes man. They never appointed clough when he wanted the job
Spot on. The REAL problem is the FA. They will just appoint another yes man. Another Clough will emerge in the future but he will NEVER be made England manager when the time comes. England will go gently into that good night. England's only hope is that the money leaves the premier league. From the ruins, something can emerge.
Saw the same when they picked Hodgson > Redknapp.
Harry would have been a great international manager.
Whereas most of these high-philosophy, micro-coached system managers will struggle to adapt to the international game.
Southgates tactics aren’t right for this England squad, there’s so much attacking potential but has barely been utilised because’s he’s too defensive, doesn’t take risks and seems to pick his favourites. The fact Maddison never had a minute on the pitch is a crime.
He sets up fairly well but after the game kicks off he can't make astute tactical decisions. He's a strategist who sets up the army but not the general who wins the battle.
The point is he is useless
I thought the same about Maddison, England's problem for decades has been their inability to create enough chances in games to score, yet Southgate has the very people who can do this sitting on the bench.
Simon is absolutely spot on here. Spot on. You don’t act in fear, you act in courage and ambition. Equalise. Right. Fresh legs. Get Rashford (your top scorer and in serious form) on and Grealish to run at their already-flapping full backs. Don’t wait till 85 minutes which is too late whether we’re losing or not and then 2 minutes left of injury time for Grealish… Absolutely pathetic substituting decisions. They were better choices than Mount and Sterling even if Mount DID win us a penalty. We shouldn’t have to rely on penalties. They scored 2 from open play despite us having several tall players to mark theirs including Giroud but the less said about Maguire the better when it comes to big/tough teams… If I was a France player and saw Maguire starting I’d have been delighted. They know he can’t cut it at the very top.
I think those players now have a mindset where they believe they can get past group stages but don't deep down believe they're good enough to dominate over good teams.
End of the day was a world cup knockout game, we were losing, should of went all or nothing, threw on all the talent we had on the bench soon as we equalised. Like every other nation does when fighting for their world cup lives.
Wenger is the one with all that attack Wenger would be perfect RN
100% correct!
Southgate is the nearly manager. If England don’t let him go they will waste this squad like Belgium. Bring on Tuchel. He’s brilliant in cup games
The FA need to do everything in their power to get Tuchel as the next manager, we can’t continue with below par managers just because they’re English.
And risk him destroying the culture and team spirit that Gareth created? Absolutely not. You saw how it ended with Chelsea, we don’t need a manager with an ego bigger than the sun
France ‘98 always gets forgotten when they talk of past tournaments. We played brilliant football under Glenn Hoddle.
Yes but lost again on penalties when it mattered, to a “better” team who we could not get past (Argentina) who were no great shakes at that tournament. Beckham red card didn’t help though...
@@nickmurray9151
No great shakes? They were the favourites going into that game. Even down to ten men and Hoddle being as tactically astute as he was, you couldn’t tell we were a man down. We even had a legitimate goal disallowed with a man short. We actually deserved to win that game, not like on Saturday just gone, where the whole match we never got in behind France once.
Simon = Top Lad Proper Clobber 👌 👏
Simon and Mark = Top LADS Proper Clobber
Thomas Tuchel would be perfect for England
i 100 percent agree but i think its unlikely that the fa would appoint a german head coach of the england national team
A british manager makes more sense
@@mikebobbings9601there are no great british managers right now. graham potter could’ve worked but he’s at chelsea.
Oh but I’ll be another boring back 5 ffs
I don’t necessarily think they’ll look at it like the next manager needs to be English.
There’s no elite managers available that are English.
Tuchel got on well with the English players and culture here while at Chelsea. He speaks the language well, is very articulate and tactically superb.
He took the reigns at Chelsea and won the champions league on short notice.
He’d be a fantastic appointment in my eyes.
The players need a fresh voice now.
Southgate has taken these players as far as he could. Would need a different manager to take these players to another level.
As a Forest fan I'm concerned because I think the FA might approach Cooper.
He won the U17s World Cup with England, he's now had some success with Swansea and even more with Forest... he's a brilliant communicator, media trained, very astute tactically, great with younger players, let's them off the leash and doesn't over train them etc.
Cooper knows the FA and England setups thoroughly, his style is very similar to the current high-press England way.
He'd be an excellent choice, and I just hope the FA overlook him.
No need worry. That shitbag dosent have a chance of getting the job...nore should he
@@anthonyoleary3226 *nor (no 'e' at the end).
What an aggressive little person you seem to be.
let's be thoroughly honest about this, GS was installed as a Caretaker manager, he took over in a crisis, fair play to him he set his sail in a positive direction and we've moved forward, but it shouldn't be forgotten that he was never supposed to be the answer. He wasn't meant to take England to three successive tournaments. It's time for a grown up decision. If England are serious about winning a major grown up football tournament, now is the time to act properly and with intent. Prima facie
I think everyone can see Southgate freezes when it matters it’s three tournaments on the trot now, I think he’s the guy we needed but not the guy we now need it’s time to get that winner in place who can be proactive in games.
That is as good as it will ever get with Southgate in control. The team has not progressed since the Euros and he has not progressed since he relegated Middlesbrough. While France were getting the ball to their most dangerous players we were passing to our central defenders. Too often we were one slip away from handing a French fotward a shot at goal through being pressed by the French front three. The result was a long ball up field by passing our midfield. After the Euros we were given the twaddle "we will hold our hands up, learn, and move on". We haven't done that otherwise Sakka would not have been sitting down arguing with the linesman when France were scoring the opener. Our two wide players were not committed to creating chances for our main striker. Our game plan was non existant. This is as good as it gets for Southgate
Simon is bang on about not making changes at the right point.
1st decent side we came up against we lost. Its that simple.
Sam Allardyce finished with a 100% record. Played 1, won 1.
With so many big names out early, it was ours for the taking this year :/ I saw 2 players with hunger, the rest going thro motions most of each game.
Its the same as the old Gerard, Scholes & Lampard team.. how are we not doing better with the sheer class we have on the pitch?
Absolutely bang on! Great guy, organized us fantastically etc etc, but a ballsy man needed to get the right results.
Most of the starting 11 play for clubs who want to play a similar way. It should be easy to transfer that to international football.
No one ever says this but.... could it be..... maybe, just maybe that.... it's not the manager. Could it be that England just aren't good enough? So it doesn't matter who the manager is, England just don't have the players.
what makes you think this lot would have beat morroco?
Well said
I would be careful what you wish for. I remember well the Brazil quarter-final in 2002 and we were down for 30 minutes and we barely had a shot on target after we conceded! We went home with little pride or hope. Vs France, had that Maguire header gone in or Kane's penalty then the media would have been hailing Southgate as a great decision-maker for choosing Maguire or putting on Mount at that time. Gareth has done a fantastic job and it shouldn't be taken for granted. The England team were the pits in 2016 as we lost to Iceland! That was a disgrace the grass is not greener on the other side.
Thats 3 videos on southgate and england going out Ive seen Simon in, and Ive agreed with every word of every video. The players he has we should take the game to france, play an expansive attacking game, that first 30 minutes of sitting back, 2 defensive full backs and 2 defensive midfielders is what cost us. 100% down to coaching and management. You have world class talent on the bench that doesnt play a single minute and the most defensive system considering the talent available, there was basically a 6 man defence until they conceded that first goal, once the shackles where off and they could play they looked world class, but that just highlights the negative system and tactics that started the game for me. Even the subs used and taken off where very odd. No trent, no maddison, and take off the 2 players who played the best, odd management, lost through fear of losing
two thoughts: is there a better candidate? looking at Löw, it took him 4 tournaments to succeed EC 2008, 2012 and WC 2010 and WC 2014.
maybe a good solution could be to add a wing man for tactical flexibility in the specific games (for prep-work, options and reactions).
In fairness though, he at least was beating strong eams before that win. Southgate has beaten nobody - ever.
This is the bold point on why Southgate should step down
@@joblakelisbon Touché.
Although Löw had the same problem. 2008 Portugal, 2010 England, Argentina, 2012 Portugal, Netherlands, 2014 Portugal, France, Brazil, Argentina, 2016 Italy
Southgate 2018 Spain, 2021 Germany
To be fair there were not many opportunities to shine for both.
@@eminturksezer9423 didn’t löw face a strong spanish squad?
@@yoshiwoollyworld true, but France and Croatia were stronger squads too
The likes of Ancelotti can take a team that is not firing on all cylinders and still get them silverware. The Croatia manager is another example of having his team push constantly above their level. There are loads of examples of managers who take a limited team and take them all the way. Southgate and England is the complete opposite..it’s a team of stars who lack guidance in pressure situations. He’s done really well but it’s run its course.
Simon’s the best out there man 👌
England have a very good team with so many promising young players & tbh even 12 years ago England had brilliant players but for whatever reason they struggle at big tournaments. Gareth Southgate has done a good job especially if you consider that he was never a decorated manager like Koop or Guardiola but maybe a change is what England need. Time will tell what’s next for England.
One thing I believe regardless of Mangers is that the players do not have enough time to practice or play games together actually spend more time against each other in their clubs.
2 games before world cup and the FA should take alot of criticism.
For me Eddie Howe
Winning a World Cup for any country would be one hell of a feather in the cap for any manager. I’d be looking at Tuchel, Poch, Potter, Howe, Rodgers, Emery, Conte, Mancini, Lowe, Ancelotti,
Potter, Howe and Rodgers, common man!!!
@@abrahamjames7004 Howe's a great manager
@@abrahamjames7004 all massive improvements on Southgate.
Southgate coaching method is hugging & love all around 💋
Apart from England the whole football world expected France to win that game it would have been a shock if England had won it.
Exactly..England fans delusional here
Wouldn't call it a shock. It was 50/50
@@AJ-nd4nk You're correct the game itself was 50/50 but France were expected to win and they did.
@JasonZ English bookies reflect English betting, international bookies and fans had France way ahead.
@JasonZ I think those pundits were being kind because Germany and England are at about the same level and they were trying to create more interest in the game. France are the current champions they have a manager that has won it as a player and a coach, and Saka's the only English player that would come close to getting into that French side.
This is the best news since 1966
I think Southgate, much like Roberto Martinez, will leave the job as the core members of his England squad age out. Kane, Henderson, trippier, walker, Shaw, maguire, stones, etc will
Come to represent his “dynasty” or more realistically his “tenure” as England manager.
Simon is right here about the substitutions. Yet what's the solution then? As Southgate keeps doing this, failing to make the changes at the vital times. No changes after equalising for over 20 minutes, and when he does its Saka for a recently arrived after a break-in Sterling?! No Rashford until around 80 minutes and Grealish on with seconds to go?! Boggles the mind, and why Southgate is neither an experienced nor an elite level manager. Hence, why many want him out. Is there no one advising him about this? Three tournaments and he has done this. So he either tweaks this or may have to depart. I'd rather he stay as he has put together a cohesive team, but now I'm more ambivalent. Maybe time for Howe or Potter, but please no Argentians that's just another kick in the teeth.
If you want to win the cup .then Southgate needs to go. If your happy for him to get you into the top ten well that's your answer . I mean putting substitutes on 2 mins from time is what I'd call missing the boat. A bit . He didn't have a plan B when we needed one. We never took the lead with France even though it looked like we were heading that way. That's when we needed that plan B. so I'd say bye bye Gareth you took up as far as you could .
Attitude is definitely a reflection of the manager. These players don’t feel inferior playing for their clubs. All you need to do is look at how that second half unfolded. We should’ve grabbed it by the scruff of the neck. We created very little.
🏴Southgate under staggering pressure to resign
He's always waited too long for substitutions, he needs to call it a day , who should take over tho?
Which big (top 10) teams have we beaten when it really mattered? When? Morocco just beat Belgium, Spain and Portugal in just over a week.
Like David Coulthard was in f1 Southgate plays it like a bank manager a company man doesn't take calculated risks which are needed to be a top gun.
Tuchel is the man we need to get us to that next step on the ladder!
Or pep Guardiola
Pep 🙏🙏
@@user-bu7zl9px4e No chance
He stunk the place out at Chelsea and got sacked!
Tuchel Pochitino or mabye Wenger
Kane should of just went straight down the middle, when in doubt just smash it in the centre of the goal 👌🏾
Fully agree. Southgate is not there to win he is there not to lose. No balls.
His mentality not making changes and subbing is shocking. Unacceptable really. He does things when it's too late. His mentality is like servicing your car. Instead of keeping it at peak performance he take it in when there is an issue hoping its goes back to what it was.
He actually destroys a capable group of players who have winning mentality destroyed by his philosophy and tactics. No winning DNA. Just dafe and secure.
As a fan would rather lose to France England going all out attack rather than boring g safe defensive minded football with no answers. Simon rightly said. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. So this step from The FA who must have the worst decision making ever.
Eddie Howe could be a good shout. Southgate plays like Rafa but without the genius tactics
Be careful what you wish for. 2 previous tournaments before Southgate took over: 2014 World Cup group stage exit, 2016 Euros round of 16 exit to the mighty Iceland before a World Cup semi and quarter final in 2018 & 2022 and a Euro final last year. Ok- many say England could and should have won at least one of those tournaments but neither did Belgium, Spain, Germany or Portugal with their resources. The talent is there for the next few years as Qatar showed so it’s a good set up for anyone coming in to take over if Southgate decides to walk but if the FA get it wrong and appoint another Capello or McLaren type that just don’t fit the role or alienate the players, the improvement under Southgate will be wasted and count for nothing.
‘Played for Palace, for Villa and England’. No mention of Middlesbrough then, where he won a national cup and reached a European cup final. Ok football expert.
Straw man argument anyway, Pele and Maradona couldn't win a raffle as managers.
Poch isn’t taking that job. But I bet Jose Mourinho would…
Damn you, I detest sloppy seconds
Southgate should stay on in some kind of director role and still be part of the team, but need a better tactical coach
Bring in Arsène Wenger, he will bring it home for us!
🤣🤣🤣
The fa love him cause he so woke and so clean and says the right thinks for them but all great managers know when to change a game you need a manager who d dosent go with reputation or what they did in the past he brought Stirling on he just flew back from the uk hadnt trained for a week gave grealish 1 minute maybe a nice guy but he is clever with substitutes or reading how this game is panning out
Southgate has done very good for a defensive manager but we need an attacking England team to win a world cup or euros. Harry kane spent more time defending against france than he did actually attacking the wings, running the lines pressuring the france players. When we had good counter attacks i watched him walking toward the french box not running, not looking to get on the end of it literally just walking and ball watching. Southgate is to defensive and defensive teams rarely win tournaments, they do quite well in leagues but not knock out football.
Thats not true. Kane was class yesterday, if he just scored the 2 pen… its easy to just say kane was just defending… kane come to many chances but unlucky for him it was a really good keeper in goal
@@comeon1503 a good striker does not walk towards the french penalty box when your on the attack like he did several times. Only excuse is injury/fitness which if was a problem he should not have played callum wilson should have.
@@comeon1503 I did not even mention the penalty.
@@TheWiseJames i did not mention that you said pen. A good striker is not be topscorer for a country of all time either?
@@comeon1503 I did not say kane is not a good striker, he is. But against France he spent a lot of time walking about the pitch. Any striker will tell you that you have to be in the box and get on the end of crosses, You cannot be seen to be walking from midfield towards the opponents goal when your team is on the attack and your the striker. either kane is to blame for that or Southgate. A striker should no better.
The French seemed to have another gear if they wanted. We were very slow in the first half, the French were fast and precise during that opening 25minutes. England are a decent team, just not good enough. Who knows what the future holds.
The French find better blacks than us.
2018. 2020. 2022. Good tournaments. But what's lacking? Killer instinct. Tournament-winning mentality.
Ben Stokes and Baz should be in charge
Has one good game where they still lose and the media is out in force calling for him to come back. How is Simon the only voice of reason in this? England should be pushing for more.
Simon to mention and compare Southgate to the Japanese manager re making proactive substitutions and formations to change games.
They need to get the Saudi Arabian couch
Taking off Saka was a fireable offense.
Jose Mourinho would do a better job than Southgate. It's not about playing attractive football in international tournaments especially since its knockouts. It's about winning and getting the job done. Jose can do that.
If Man City could only play Champions League football and no other competition, Guardiola would up to this point have no trophies with City. At international level there are only two knock-out tournaments - and each is only every four years. How often does a country win one of these trophies? Brazil have the most World Cups - 5. But that's only 5 out of a potential 22. Knock-out competitions at this level are incredibly hard to win, even with an amazing team. Add to that the fact that unfancied teams like Morocco and Australia and so many more give everyone a hard game now. You need an amazing team and good luck. People just don't understand it what it is that they are demanding
@JasonZ Croatia were the better team in 2018 - that's why England didn't get to the final. And in 2021 Italy won the Euros cos they were the best team of that tournament. Those two teams they faced were among the best in the world and so far from jokes
Pochettino or tuchel I would like
southgate out
We need a striker that is up front.. doesn’t spend their time in midfield more concerned about assists
He's basically taken all the flair and excitement out of the team. Even when they win 6-0 it's still pretty boring to watch. At least lose with style.
I knew we would have this right after the loss.
We had Graham Taylor , we did nothing
We had Terry Venables and got to a semi-final and then the FA did not renew his contract .
We had Glen Hoddle and we shall never know because again a said something and they got rid of him.
We had Sven Goran Erickson and all we did where semi-finals .
Then came Kevin Keegan and he walked away .
Then Steve McLaren nothing , Cappello nothing and the shambles Roy Hogings and Iceland ……
Now Gareth Southgate and we got into a semi, a final and a quarter final .
Do we get rid of him and either go backwards or win Euro 2024 or do we give him one more chance ……
It’s up to the FA , me I’d give him one more chance .
Let’s be honest here the reason Bobby Robson got England to the semi-final was the players begged him to use the sweeper system and it opened up things and got us to the semifinals and a heartbreaking loss to West Germany on penalties.
With the talent this country has had since 1966 we should have won something…..
Simon is spot on but can't see Southgate going anywhere. I think Wenger/Jouchim Low would do a much better job with the attacking talent we have.
Spot-on, Simon, I did'nt realise England had any substitutes until about five minutes from the end of the match and, as regrads Grealish, about ten seconds from the end, I thought the people on the bench were spectators. Southgate, a decent honest man, rare in today's football world, but just not a winner. How about Eddie Howe and Jason Tindall? Winners!
What's Eddie Howe won?
@@Steve-ArfArf What was Eddie Howe expected to win at Bournemouth on a shoestring budget. Discarding 10 years of brilliant work improving Bournemouth every season is nonsense. He wasn't managing Liverpool ffs
@@sammybeck4855 not a "winner" then is he?
@@sammybeck4855 I only asked a question, simple question, should be a simple answer I hope
@@EggBoxingFactoryManagerCompletely different context.
Howe is now showing people again what a class act he is and what a top rate manager he is with Newcastle’s current situation.
we just stop playing every time seen this so many times
Alf Ramsey was not the players friend. that is what the problem with southgate is, in my humble opinion, my at 85 years young.
Media discussion of how things are going under Southgate has tended to forget the Nations League relegation debacle .
Including it, England have played 11 competitive games this year and won just 3 of them.
Hungary 1-0 England - Nations League
Germany 1-1 England - Nations League
England 0-0 Italy - Nations League
England 0-4 Hungary - Nations League
Italy 1-0 England - Nations League
England 3-3 Germany - Nations League
England 6-2 Iran - WC
England 0-0 United States - WC
Wales 0-3 - WC
England 3-0 Senegal - WC
England 1-2 France - WC
Going into the WC, the team was clearly going in the wrong direction, and while the performances at it were far from disastrous, there was nothing in them to suggest that Southgate is capable of turning things around.
I don't like Southgate and want him gone, but what I will give him credit for and where he has been better than previous England managers is, he hasn't tried to get all his best players on the pitch all at once and has put out a more balanced and functional system.
For years, managers were cramming Lampard, Gerrard and Rooney in the same team. Southgate wouldn't have done that, he would have dropped one and maybe subbed one on for the other. Every team needs a Henderson despite him not being as talented as other players sitting on the bench.
I always said its not about having all your best players on the pitch, it's about having a system and playing the players who best suit the positions in that system.
It's dollars for dougnuts you berk * finger poke to glasses frame *
We need to back the courage of our convictions I used to own Crystal Palace you know 👀
why do some teams get timely goals
and others cannot?..
The flack Kane is receiving is nonsense by the way. The reason he has been forced to drop deep is due to the lack of invention. Put a playmaker in the team (Maddison) and Kane can stay up there. We had no one in the area for most of the match because Kane is expected to do too much. Southgate is a footballer by numbers manager. It's just boring and easy to negate. We shouldnt be relying on winning penalties and converting them. He NEEDS ro fo but sadly won't.
This fantastic generation of players will be lost if they allow this pub team manager to continue leading them.
3 Newcastle players in that squad that never even got a shout Southgate picking his favourites again
England FA are one of the best funded, PL is one of the best, players are coached by best in the world at club level, huge talent pool but we constantly under achieve or have potential for the future. It’s all BS. We struggle against all the top 7 European sides. We don’t go in and dominate and more importantly win consistently. Our weak link has always been the Manager at tournament football not qualification. We need to hire the best Manager out there with proven winning track record, pay them a huge win bonus but only sign them up on short contracts so they can return to club football after a couple years with England. This would encourage an elite Manager to try international coaching mid career, earn a fortune, enhance their reputation and give England access to the Klopps, the Peps or Ancelotti’s.
Context is everything.. A great manager maximises the potential of his team..What has he done?, Chelsea, Spurs, City, Liv have had many English players playing in the final rounds of the Uefa Champions League - this is another golden generation of players who have underachieved... Who have England beaten in WC's since 2006?? Tunisia, Panama, Colombia, Sweden, Slovenia, Paraguay, Trinidad, Ecuador, Iran, Wales and Senegal??/That's context for you... Bring on Brendan Rogers...