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  • Harry Kane missed his second penalty vs France in the quarter finals of the 2022 FIFA World Cup. talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Martin Keown discuss!
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  • @aidentitus224
    @aidentitus224 Před rokem +756

    Why can’t people just accept that Kane didn’t rise to the moment?

    • @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool
      @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool Před rokem +36

      Kane couldn't have risen to the moment if he was given viagra, that's how impotent his second penalty was

    • @ashwilliams4959
      @ashwilliams4959 Před rokem +14

      Last year, he was almost sold for around 150m. The amount of people whodve been involved and had a small packet of that is more than sports fans realise. He's barely worth 50m but the English tax and putting him up amongst names like Messi and mbappe helps bump his price

    • @mkdon101
      @mkdon101 Před rokem +14

      English always wana find excuses

    • @joewhite22
      @joewhite22 Před rokem +8

      @@ashwilliams4959 Kane not worth £50m? 😆Yeah ok

    • @mikedon5205
      @mikedon5205 Před rokem +6

      @@AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool maybe it was too much viagra

  • @thelegendthatischels
    @thelegendthatischels Před rokem +682

    Calling Harry kane a national hero is quite frankly offensive , keown doesn't live in the real world.

    • @ashwilliams4959
      @ashwilliams4959 Před rokem +10

      Confirms simons comments moments before

    • @antwango
      @antwango Před rokem +9

      Kane aint my hero, Kane aint evn my captain ffs

    • @xpedisinusantara7758
      @xpedisinusantara7758 Před rokem

      Well you should be on England squad then??? What a joke! If you think what Harry kane did was easy, get a life. Running your mouth when u probably don't even know how to kick a ball in a professional soccer arena just like Simon himself.

    • @gavinmitchell4477
      @gavinmitchell4477 Před rokem +9

      He lives in a world where he cares about there feelings too much rather then Truth.

    • @DF-so1lx
      @DF-so1lx Před rokem +16

      I'm an Arsenal fan and Keown embarrassed me big time calling Kane a national hero. A hero gets the job done and gives the country something to be proud of. Blazing a big penalty over the bar the way he did does not make him a hero to me. A hero is someone like Saka or Rashford who bounced back from a disappointing moment (euros penalty misses) where they were accused of letting the country down yet bounced back to be two of our best players this world cup and had fans demanding they play every game. Thats a hero

  • @monkey39128
    @monkey39128 Před rokem +505

    Mbappe scoring 3 penalties past a keeper who's better at saving them than Lloris really made me rethink Kane's miss. The top players get it done. Penalties can be saved but there's no excuse for not hitting the target.

    • @joewhite22
      @joewhite22 Před rokem +14

      Would he have missed if he'd been facing a keeper he plays with who has known him for almost 10 years though? Because I'm sure that would have been running through Kane's head too on top of the other pressures. Probably why he missed the target altogether.

    • @leverholme9894
      @leverholme9894 Před rokem +4

      Spot on

    • @freddieqmercury5961
      @freddieqmercury5961 Před rokem +6

      I just said the same thing, it should be on target.

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 Před rokem +7

      @@joewhite22 I don't know, it's possible. I'd like to hear Kane tell us, honestly, exactly what went through his head. We'll probably hear about it in a book one day.

    • @L0rdsmokey
      @L0rdsmokey Před rokem

      Upupguf

  • @SK-nj6qo
    @SK-nj6qo Před rokem +320

    I’m an Arsenal fan and he’s an Arsenal invincible but God does Martin utter some complete dross most of the time.

  • @iswhatitis1361
    @iswhatitis1361 Před rokem +160

    Did he just call a footballer a 'hero' 😂😂

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 Před rokem +1

      I know, total nonsense. The idolisation of these people is ridiculous. Like today we've got the Messi and Ronaldo fans fighting all over social media. What they all fail to realise is they're both tax dodging ars*holes.

    • @kylejohnson5764
      @kylejohnson5764 Před rokem

      Out of touch moron..

    • @920mario
      @920mario Před rokem +8

      Yes what's wrong with that? Messi , Pele, Maradona and Both Ronaldos are heros! But Harry Kane ain't one he is a tottenham player lmaooooooooo

    • @stephenconnolly2582
      @stephenconnolly2582 Před rokem

      @@920mario both ronaldo? Hahaha classic. That Portuguese ronaldo is a spoilt brat

    • @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi
      @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi Před rokem +12

      @@920mario hero worshipping sports stars or anyone for that matter is ridiculous.

  • @g-stergaming4502
    @g-stergaming4502 Před rokem +123

    The only thing slower than Holland's play during this World Cup was Martins commentary

  • @adamliston4823
    @adamliston4823 Před rokem +86

    Keown said our performance was remarkable against France!
    I can't deal with him

    • @davidthevaleter5636
      @davidthevaleter5636 Před rokem +4

      I thought we played well and could have gone through. We didn’t. We certainly didn’t play remarkable that’s just insane 🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @blueleaf1717
      @blueleaf1717 Před rokem

      @@davidthevaleter5636 Yeah I agree, we were the better side for the majority of the game but as is always the case with England tournament in tournament out, we do not capitalise on our chances. Granted we didnt create many in this match against the world champions which is what you would expect, but neither did they, they just scored the ones the did create.
      Average teams make chances, but top teams take chances.

  • @jack7195
    @jack7195 Před rokem +120

    Martin always plays that "bitter owner" card, when Simon starts spitting facts😂

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 Před rokem +3

      He does 😂 I despise the internet phrase "cry more" but Martin might be the one person that phrase could actually apply to 😂

    • @kingflixmovies837
      @kingflixmovies837 Před rokem

      He's right though, every player misses penalties every now and again, Messi, mbappe, Ronaldo, etc

  • @letstalk7233
    @letstalk7233 Před rokem +92

    Kane skyed the ball over the bar into the stands. That wasn’t a near miss it was a huge mistake

    • @Alan-jb3kb
      @Alan-jb3kb Před rokem

      Why are we digging out Harry when 3 black players miss their penalties and it was in the final but now won said anything and we still take the knee for blm Zaha don't take the knee and that is why Southgate do pick him for england

    • @radiosports1
      @radiosports1 Před rokem +1

      @@Alan-jb3kb Bruh Zaha is an Ivorian international. That's why he's not picked for England. And the pens that England missed in the Euro Final were atleast on target. Well Rashy was just slightly off

  • @jhamielw6920
    @jhamielw6920 Před rokem +107

    Kane is class, Messi and Mbappe are world class. different levels. Don't ever think for a second Kane is world class.

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy Před rokem

      Idiot.

    • @rogerpayne5336
      @rogerpayne5336 Před rokem +2

      100% !!

    • @rockosmodurnlif
      @rockosmodurnlif Před rokem +10

      Messi missed penalties too. I remember last year or sometime there were pundits debating whether or not Messi should take pens. Kane sailed a pen over the bar, he should have done better but he’s still world class. There’s not a lot of teams who wouldn’t switch their striker for him.

    • @travisbickle5829
      @travisbickle5829 Před rokem +3

      Exactly. I will never dispute Harry Kane’s quality because you’d be foolish to do so. He’s a fantastic striker, he’s just not God’s gift to football like the English make him out to be.

    • @ak_1979
      @ak_1979 Před rokem +3

      @@rockosmodurnlif and what did Messi do? Score 2 pens in a game… twice in the highest stage. There’s no excuses for Kane to at least hit the target

  • @WiilWaalShow
    @WiilWaalShow Před rokem +71

    Thank you Mr. Jordan. Mbappe showed Kane how it’s done.

  • @fredsflintstone3702
    @fredsflintstone3702 Před rokem +55

    Mbappe shot every penalty the same way. That's confidence.

  • @biniamdebesay6594
    @biniamdebesay6594 Před rokem +46

    I think most people would agree that in the biggest moments you would rather have Mbappe taking the penalty than Kane. Note: Mbappe already has a better career than Kane.

    • @josphatkamau227
      @josphatkamau227 Před rokem +2

      Correct
      Stupid loyalty to Tottenham is Kane's biggest mistake... He won't win shite in his career unless he runs of to Germany!

    • @mpoathyp
      @mpoathyp Před rokem +1

      @@josphatkamau227 🤣🤣Kane out of the premier League will be a big failure

    • @Resonance971
      @Resonance971 Před rokem +5

      stop lying, before the pen miss everyone said Kane was one of the finest pen takers in the sport, heck he killed a pen prior to his miss the very same game. Too many recency bias here

    • @mpoathyp
      @mpoathyp Před rokem +1

      @@Resonance971 Not everyone use to say that did you mean the English media use to say that?😁

    • @biniamdebesay6594
      @biniamdebesay6594 Před rokem +3

      @@Resonance971 So u saying a man tht have consistently failed to show up in the big moments was most ppl's pick to take a high pressure penalty??? Who r these ppl mate??

  • @bfb187
    @bfb187 Před rokem +131

    01:25 Simons face saying “19 years of age” over and over 😭😭

    • @thf3038
      @thf3038 Před rokem +47

      He wasn't 19, he was 22

    • @bfb187
      @bfb187 Před rokem +10

      @@thf3038 tell him not me, I'm just quoting him

    • @ashwilliams4959
      @ashwilliams4959 Před rokem +9

      @@thf3038 he was 22 in 2018... he's 23 now lad

    • @thf3038
      @thf3038 Před rokem +16

      @@ashwilliams4959 The penalty miss that Keown was referring to was the Euro 2021 round of 16 match vs Switzerland, not the 2018 world cup. So he is 23 in 2022, which would make him 22 in 2021.

    • @joewhite22
      @joewhite22 Před rokem +6

      @@thf3038 Simon's whole point folded on itself when he got Mbappe's age wrong. Not to mention we're talking about an already experienced 22 year old who turned up in big moments in the last World Cup.

  • @shishhhh2
    @shishhhh2 Před rokem +95

    Calling Football players “Heroes” is insane 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @thefivepoints
    @thefivepoints Před rokem +28

    I liked how sympathetic Keown was towards Rude Van Nistlerooy when he missed that injury time penalty at OT in 2003.

  • @leemoffat159
    @leemoffat159 Před rokem +168

    Harry Kane a national hero 😂😂😂

  • @CB-pu9pr
    @CB-pu9pr Před rokem +24

    Who the hell made Harry Kane a national hero, Mr Keown? Simon spot on again

  • @markchandler5095
    @markchandler5095 Před rokem +62

    Kane choked, it's that simple. He missed the target, completely unacceptable.

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy Před rokem +1

      It's not that simple. It's your opinion. Plenty of top players have missed penalties in big games, it happens, doesn't mean he choked. I strongly disagree with treating opinion as fact! It's not fact.
      Simon has become too full of himself, he'd roast anyone else for ranting and raving like he is and trying to argue speculative opinions as fact.

    • @travisbickle5829
      @travisbickle5829 Před rokem +4

      @@FreshAlchemy Yes, missing Penalties does happen, but yes, it also means you choked.

    • @misterpractical
      @misterpractical Před rokem +1

      @@FreshAlchemy Mbappe hit all 3 of his penalties, the exact same way he practiced them, low and hard to the goalkeeper's right...
      Yes Martinez got close to two of them, but Mbappe's conviction and belief in what he practiced for years won out.

    • @stevethedweeb3846
      @stevethedweeb3846 Před rokem +1

      @@FreshAlchemy a missed penalty when you are paid 150k a week is 100000000000000000% choking

    • @hellohi1445
      @hellohi1445 Před rokem

      @@misterpractical mbappe is gonna be the GOAT tho. And anyways he also missed against Switzerland. Shows that players like him can miss too.

  • @MarcoSpeaksNadsat
    @MarcoSpeaksNadsat Před rokem +61

    Keown being in the studio must be Jordan's highlight of the week. He is so easy to wind up lol.

    • @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool
      @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool Před rokem +3

      I dunno, I think it is just childs play for Simon. I think he relishes Graeme Souness who at least gives him a bit back. We need some stern competition for Simon as there isn't any. He destroyed Piers Morgan...the bloke's a titan!

    • @GamerFrisco
      @GamerFrisco Před rokem

      🔑-own screams in his car.

    • @olivermclean7605
      @olivermclean7605 Před rokem

      🤣🤣exactly 💯

  • @bisonkambaine5628
    @bisonkambaine5628 Před rokem +34

    "You need to let go....It's time to let go to what happened to you at Crystal Palace" When did Simon sign up for therapy sessions with Keown? 🤣🤣🤣

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy Před rokem

      I prefer Keown myself, he has his flaws, sure, but at least he's not a pompous, pretentious, yuppie dick like Simon is.

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 Před rokem +2

      Keown has lost the plot.

  • @amrithbharadwaj4945
    @amrithbharadwaj4945 Před rokem +15

    Why are people so offended by Simon's opinion on Kane missing the penalty? He missed it, whether that was because he didn't make the right contact or he over thought and got in his head.
    Keown is right, Messi did miss a penalty to lose a Copa America final. And he got criticized for it and rightly so. And so should Kane.

  • @cfcbeanz1122
    @cfcbeanz1122 Před rokem +41

    Watching Keown trying to debate with Simon is like a watching a gazelle trying to take down a lion 😂

  • @markpatterson2764
    @markpatterson2764 Před rokem +54

    Martin obviously wasnt checking social media last night where Harry Kane's massive whiff was trending as much as Mbappe and Messi's greatness

    • @Dr_MKUltra
      @Dr_MKUltra Před rokem +3

      😂 Kane's penalty has just passed Mars at this point 😆

    • @VoiceOfThe
      @VoiceOfThe Před rokem

      @@Dr_MKUltra
      It’s still orbiting planet earth as we speak.

  • @roysten59
    @roysten59 Před rokem +66

    Harry Kane won a golden boot on the back of penalties. He was lauded for it, but now he’s missed one he can’t be judged…

    • @GIBBO4182
      @GIBBO4182 Před rokem +6

      Messi and Lewa both missed penalties THIS tournament

    • @tomadams94
      @tomadams94 Před rokem +11

      @@GIBBO4182 and? It turned out not to matter, in Messi’s case at least. Had he missed questions should of been asked.

    • @GIBBO4182
      @GIBBO4182 Před rokem +6

      @@tomadams94 I’m simply pointing out that better players than Kane have missed penalties 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @randomas5565
      @randomas5565 Před rokem +6

      @@GIBBO4182 they hit the target

    • @Iron-Bridge
      @Iron-Bridge Před rokem +6

      @@GIBBO4182 But no high altitude planes and endangered species birds flying overhead were harmed when the other players didn't convert their penalties.

  • @rebelrebel1411
    @rebelrebel1411 Před rokem +9

    It’s the difference between the very good and the elite. Pressure moments

  • @mt9022
    @mt9022 Před rokem +97

    And this is exactly why Southgate remains in post. Ex players, pundits, current players all feeding the English fans the absolute drivel that this team is a success and we’re going places under Southgate. All this nation does is champion failure and make heroes out of bottle jobs. The expectations of Gareth Southgate is insanely low and he is literally under no pressure. He’s living the dream currently, he can’t lose

    • @VoiceOfThe
      @VoiceOfThe Před rokem

      Harry Kane. Bottle job. Lol

    • @jeannotschumacher1024
      @jeannotschumacher1024 Před rokem +2

      You all forget that not a single english player has eather a) the quality of the french players nor b) the fighting spirit of the argentines .
      30 years ago or so the b) might not have been the case.
      Don't take this as offensif. It's the reality. Southgate, the players and some pundits know this deep down know. Martin Keown is very "Terre à terre" here and i think he's wright. Take it or leave it.

    • @deathfromabove4605
      @deathfromabove4605 Před rokem

      Southgate has no knowledge about football tactics, how to break down teams, how to attack, defend, what an idiot to be still the coach

    • @myhatmygandhi6217
      @myhatmygandhi6217 Před rokem +1

      @@jeannotschumacher1024 on paper England are as good as most top teams, they just keep bottling it when they face the elite.

    • @jeannotschumacher1024
      @jeannotschumacher1024 Před rokem +1

      @@myhatmygandhi6217 i don't think so. It's pure english media hype.
      Have a look at stones , maguire and pickford for example... I mean...come on.

  • @victorjustine
    @victorjustine Před rokem +39

    Simon took the words right out of my mouth when he said "at nighteen years of age"😅

  • @yarns1701
    @yarns1701 Před rokem +20

    Keown please don't quit ... love how you get battered by Jordan every week!

  • @mycoshe
    @mycoshe Před rokem +131

    Everything Simon Jordan said was spot on!!

    • @theblues8840
      @theblues8840 Před rokem +3

      Except the multiple things he got wrong like mbappe and messi not being 19 and both of them players have missed penalties

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy Před rokem

      Clearly it isn't since he's basing his entire argument on an assumption, which is only his persaonl opinion, not a fact. People's opinions aren't correct just because you agree with them. To be correct something has to be factually accurate, not just something that sounds good.

    • @920mario
      @920mario Před rokem

      @The Blues if Southgate was gone it would be different

  • @emz7
    @emz7 Před rokem +7

    Those 3 penalties from mbappe has really shown kane didn’t have the minerals 😭

  • @justiceoforiszn5390
    @justiceoforiszn5390 Před rokem +14

    This got personal🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @vicsdunleavy21
    @vicsdunleavy21 Před rokem +22

    Simon Jordan is spot on with his analogy for the simple fact that Harry Kane fluffed his lines because he was asked to take his second penalty in normal time against his club colleague.
    Mbappe in a World Cup final at 23 showed what Harry Kane should have done in the QF. He didn’t even get it on target. Those are the moments where unfortunately he’s shown he’s not quite in the absolute upper echelon of top world class forwards. Of course anyone can miss a penalty but look at the careers of Messi and even Mbappe (still only 23) - you can’t compare what Kane has achieved in terms of trophies to them. Kane hasn’t won anything unlike those two and he has had opportunities as well. The Champions league final where he was essentially non existent, World Cup semi where he missed a massive chance to go 2 up against Croatia and now this pen in the QF.

  • @ixlimacixl
    @ixlimacixl Před rokem +31

    Keown is either on drugs or he should be 😂😂😂

  • @robj8201
    @robj8201 Před rokem +5

    Love the bit where Keown looks over his shoulder…’looking for Tony Adams to back him up again’….😂

  • @shinyface971
    @shinyface971 Před rokem +15

    I haven't heard one bad take from the English media about England. It's all 'how well we played', 'they all get on', 'hope Gareth stays'. At the end of the day England failed and we are kidding ourselves

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy Před rokem +1

      Then you haven't listened to talksport over the past week then.

    • @damianduguid6253
      @damianduguid6253 Před rokem +1

      @@FreshAlchemy Talksport the only ones talking differently

    • @russellthechemist8291
      @russellthechemist8291 Před rokem

      I thought the USA were better than us in the group game too. We got a bit lucky there. We have also been relegated in the League of Nations. We are a bit crap, actually. Southgate is a weak link.

  • @curtis9320
    @curtis9320 Před rokem +13

    Kanes an odd striker to me, on his day no doubt in my mind he's up there among some of the best right now but he goes through so many periods where he can go missing and feels like whatever team he is on they're already a man down. Even mentally he just doesn't strike me as a winner.

    • @damianduguid6253
      @damianduguid6253 Před rokem

      theres a video on CZcams that tells Kane's life story and how he came to have the weak mental state of mind that he has

    • @brocklanders796
      @brocklanders796 Před rokem

      You are right, Harry Kane isn't a winner. When he does manage to play in a final for Tottenham or England e.g. League Cup Finals, Champions League Final or European Championship Final he does nothing.

    • @curtis9320
      @curtis9320 Před rokem +1

      @@brocklanders796 in fairness I don't really blame Kane for the CL final, I thought it was baffling Poch picked him over Lucas, even as a Liverpool fan I think Lucas would've been more problematic against us considering he's the reason they were in the final in the first place. I dunno what it is with alot of these managers insisting on playing him I'm sure if he died at some point they'd just throw his corpse up front. Funnily enough despite how much our media villifies him I think his best football was under mourinho.

  • @ellishall127
    @ellishall127 Před rokem +3

    Tbf Keown telling Jim to 'Listen and he might have a decent contribution for once' was an absolute banger. Even a broken clocks right twice a day

  • @player11x
    @player11x Před rokem +5

    Mental fortitude of Mbappe yesterday was through the roofs. He knew exactly where he wanted to kick the ball in the net and whether Martinez knows that or not already doesn’t matter, I’m gonna score anyway. Mental strength:: Elite level.
    Big player

  • @OSIthatgamer
    @OSIthatgamer Před rokem +5

    It doesn’t just come down to penalties, Kane has underperformed a lot in the games that matter. His scoring record on paper is good but when it really matters that’s what people remember

  • @kingl6969
    @kingl6969 Před rokem +4

    Martin: i like apples
    Simon: i love apples too!
    Martin: nevermind, apples are a disgrace

  • @danielpinatecaballero2612

    Kane didn't just miss. He skyed it over the bar. He definitely succumbed to the pressure.

  • @VR46314
    @VR46314 Před rokem +50

    Mbappe is something special

  • @Slice998
    @Slice998 Před rokem +11

    At 19 years of age? It was last year FFS and it cost France. Martinez also got his hand to 2 of 3 penalties he took as well. Kane did bottle it but these margins are incredibly fine and it can happen to anyone in the heat of the moment. Messi has also missed critical penalties in his career too. It happens.

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy Před rokem +1

      Simon has convinced himself that Kane bottled it, which is a shameful position to argue from as he is doing here, because he simply cannot prove that his position is factually accurate. Arguing vociferiously from a position of speculation is a bad idea and he must know that, yet he does it anyway. Too sure of himself.
      I agree with your comment and the fact is, we'll never know if Kane choked or simply did not strike the ball as cleanly as he wanted, but as you say, any player can miss a penalty sometimes, it happens. Simon is making an idiot of himself here.

    • @miamitten1123
      @miamitten1123 Před rokem +2

      Got his hands to it isn’t a save. The keeper dived to his right 6 out of 7 penalties.

    • @calm123
      @calm123 Před rokem +3

      Kane always bottling it though, those guys are leading teams to victory

  • @De3dSh0t
    @De3dSh0t Před rokem +4

    "but Mbappe missed last time"
    "But Messi missed in the final as well"
    Ok, and? That means they succumbed to pressure in those instances as well, nobody called Kane a serial bottle job, he just folded in that specific game

  • @byrin
    @byrin Před rokem +18

    Simon calling a spade a spade.

  • @Alejandro_543
    @Alejandro_543 Před rokem +10

    Lmfao Simon is the GOAT this man always entertains with his ruthlessness 😂😂

  • @007feck
    @007feck Před rokem +5

    The problem today is that SJ is talking hard facts, whereas Keown wants to hand out medals to all the kids who entered the competition because otherwise it might hurt their ego

  • @glazersout4272
    @glazersout4272 Před rokem +4

    I would also like to bring up the fact that at least one or possibly two of Mbappe's penalties could've been saved - the keeper got his hand to them. Fine margins...

  • @nomintro2141
    @nomintro2141 Před rokem +7

    After watching France last night, I realised we never had a chance against France

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy Před rokem +3

      Well that's total bullshit

    • @travisbickle5829
      @travisbickle5829 Před rokem +1

      Imagine England in that WC final game😂😂

    • @nomintro2141
      @nomintro2141 Před rokem

      @@FreshAlchemy they never got out of second gear bud, they knew our end game, whole world consider us spurs of international football bud.

  • @saadnaeem8060
    @saadnaeem8060 Před rokem +2

    Harry Kane is the only player ever to be deemed world class without winning a single medal at club and international level

  • @Tom-dn6zy
    @Tom-dn6zy Před rokem +3

    Messi scored a brace in a world cup final. And has scored in 2 champions league finals. Mbappe scored in 2 world cup finals, including a Hattrick. These guys have performed in big games and still get criticism when they occasionally choke. Harry Kane has never performed in a final ever and he shouldn't get criticism when he chokes?

  • @williamcowan5053
    @williamcowan5053 Před rokem +23

    Simon Jordan speaks the most sense I've heard as any pundit out there

    • @sibonisoduma5878
      @sibonisoduma5878 Před rokem +1

      Bruh he is a genius.

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy Před rokem

      @@sibonisoduma5878 Yeah that's why he works for trashy tabloid radio station talksport. Grow up.

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy Před rokem

      He's not a pundit William. Pundit implies a level of expertise. He's not a football expert. He doesn't know what he's going on about most of the time when ti comes to football. He likes to think he's an expert at business and finance though, even though he's a failed club owner who's been reduced to working on this garbage platform 5 days a week.

    • @GamerFrisco
      @GamerFrisco Před rokem

      Simon Jordan is a genius

  • @patrickryan5570
    @patrickryan5570 Před rokem +2

    The Mbappe equaliser against Argentina was one the greatest goals ever in a World Cup Final - Harry Kane is fantastic player however Mbappe is in a different class - Most football fans accept that - This is a clear case of Kane is not in the same league as Mbappe and Messi.

  • @777tractorboy
    @777tractorboy Před rokem +6

    Simon spot on as usual

  • @eddi3m
    @eddi3m Před rokem +10

    Mbappé was 22 years old - the Euros were only played last year in the summer.
    Both Simon and Martin make valid points here, IMO. Any player can miss or fail at any point, but for me is more of HOW often do you miss/fail.
    Also, players can be ‘heroes’ of achievement and excellence in their own fields but that obviously pales in comparison to real life heroes, so to speak.

  • @jamiejonesisjamie
    @jamiejonesisjamie Před rokem +3

    Harry Kane also BOTTLED his pen in the euros against Denmark but got lucky with the rebound

  • @DoFi12
    @DoFi12 Před rokem +21

    You can miss a pen if your Messi and Mbappe when they’ve already achieved loads. When your Harry Kane, a serial bottler, you HAVE to score

  • @haydenhoodless2055
    @haydenhoodless2055 Před rokem +3

    I think Simon is right, and I thought the exact same watching Mbappe take those pens. Kane is captain, he gets paid quarter of a mil a week, a player whose supposed to be up there with the best of the best, and he buckled under the pressure. It is precisely because Kane is so good that he should not be let of the hook for missing penalties in important moments.

  • @cameronhawkins6033
    @cameronhawkins6033 Před rokem +14

    Martin lives in a dream land

  • @geekaleek
    @geekaleek Před rokem +8

    _"It's time for you to let go of what happened to you at Crystal Palace"_ - Martin Keown.
    😂🤣

    • @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool
      @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool Před rokem +6

      To be fair that was the only part where I cheered Keown on. The rest? He's proper wet behind the ears

  • @Dead-Ball-Situation
    @Dead-Ball-Situation Před rokem +19

    This was a painful listen and Keown collapsed.

  • @MarcoSpeaksNadsat
    @MarcoSpeaksNadsat Před rokem +4

    I hope they clip the last couple of minutes of the stream where Keown accuses Jordan and White of getting back handers in Qatar, and they both burst into laughter at the same time. It was classic lol

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy Před rokem

      Nervous laughter is a tell-tale sign. It's not a coincidence that Simon "everyone has a price" Jordan dramatically changed his opinion on state-owned football clubs after meeting with Nasser Al-Khelaifi. Keown has a point, to be perfectly fair.

    • @MarcoSpeaksNadsat
      @MarcoSpeaksNadsat Před rokem

      @@FreshAlchemy I wonder how her indoors has taken to Simon's sudden appreciation of the Middle Eastern States lol.

  • @ahmedyusuf3396
    @ahmedyusuf3396 Před rokem +4

    Simon Jordan is being logical and fair, meanwhile you have Martin Keown on the other side being emotional and virtue signalling. Absolutely appalling.
    If players can be praised an celebrated when they are doing well, they should be equally as criticized when they are not doing well.
    Harry Kane for me is a good PL player, but he lacks that cutting edge at the highest level. If he wasnt brittish, no one would be singing his praises.

  • @joewhite22
    @joewhite22 Před rokem +10

    There was a slightly different psychological battle for Kane since he was facing Lloris, who knows him so well. People are treating the penalty like it stopped us from winning. We would have just lost in ET afterwards or on penalties. The fact is we were always playing catch up and were relying on pens to get goals. Maybe we should have scored in open play like France did.

    • @L1am21
      @L1am21 Před rokem +2

      His lack of pace is too much me. for put him number 10 role and put a forward or 2 ahead of him and take captains arm band off him. he cant talk and southgate keeps playing Henson as his leader so just make him captain already.

    • @joewhite22
      @joewhite22 Před rokem

      @@L1am21 Kane is not the problem. The problem is not having more quality like Kane. He's our only world class player. If we did then we might not have needed him to convert 2 penalties.

    • @L1am21
      @L1am21 Před rokem +3

      @@joewhite22 kane is a problem as he never actually plays up front the amount of crosses in box where he is not there is ridiculous.

    • @joewhite22
      @joewhite22 Před rokem

      @@L1am21 Maybe Southgate needs to tweak the system to accommodate then?

    • @adversity3600
      @adversity3600 Před rokem +3

      What ? Psychological battle? My friend Do you Think it's easy to Face Emiliano Crazy Martinez 3 Times!!! .....ask any footballer who they'd rather face Martinez or Hugo Lloris?

  • @shahinbahadori6890
    @shahinbahadori6890 Před rokem +6

    Simon is spot on 😁😁😁😁

  • @twisteddancer7773
    @twisteddancer7773 Před rokem +21

    Simon wins again. To be fair it's not hard with Keown

  • @LaRafa7
    @LaRafa7 Před rokem

    I do appreciate watching these two go at it.

  • @barfly1984
    @barfly1984 Před rokem +2

    If the phrase 'bottled it' was in the urban dictionary it should have a picture of Kane's penalty.

  • @chiderajames8387
    @chiderajames8387 Před rokem +3

    I knew these guys will talk about this today 😂

  • @cviasco8571
    @cviasco8571 Před rokem +14

    Out of my group chat, 9 of us out of 15 said he would sky it over. He can’t handle the pressure

  • @jashraf255
    @jashraf255 Před rokem +8

    Spot on Simon!

  • @AJ-qv1rs
    @AJ-qv1rs Před rokem +4

    As a Spurs fan, my heart goes out to Kane. But, when he was asked to step up and do a job, he didn't, and he was found wanting. Will he bounce back? Yes... but accept the criticism; the penalty was up there with the worst penalties you will ever see at a major tournament. Keown, my word, what a plum!

    • @Adaobieistyping
      @Adaobieistyping Před rokem

      I’m also a spurs fan. Serious question; do u think kane is world class?

    • @damianduguid6253
      @damianduguid6253 Před rokem

      Kane has secured his spot on the BBC panel, when he retires, with Lineker and Shearer. He will get to to glorify a tournament semi final place, as if it was a victory, Just like Alan and Gary do rn

  • @UncleBurntApostrophe
    @UncleBurntApostrophe Před rokem +3

    Facing Loris was prob the kicker! If Mbappe was facing his club keeper, prob diff

  • @hellobanking802
    @hellobanking802 Před rokem +3

    There's no love lost between Simon & Martin,is there? If looks could kill.😂

  • @darrylkemp3253
    @darrylkemp3253 Před rokem +1

    Mbappe and Messi managed to score their pens in the biggest game of the tournament. just admit kane bottled it FFS 🤣

  • @kadarabdullahi
    @kadarabdullahi Před rokem +1

    I wouldn't judge Kane just on a penalty miss. If anything blame Southgate for asking his most prolific striker to also be the playmaker and defender. Mbappe does virtually nothing when France doesn't have possession but is lethal when they attack.

  • @rfurms
    @rfurms Před rokem +3

    Everytime I watch these guys go at it, I can just sense that they genuinely do hate eachother

  • @VictorVonDoom.
    @VictorVonDoom. Před rokem +3

    He missed a penalty in the Euro’s

  • @13leaguestotwomorethanyou

    The producer loved that no doubt. 😂😂😂😂

  • @sithemperorpalpatine870
    @sithemperorpalpatine870 Před rokem +3

    Keown reacting emotionally again. The facts are the facts.

  • @jasonmortimer3420
    @jasonmortimer3420 Před rokem +6

    Simon as ever spot on Kane bottled it simple

  • @dabu8701
    @dabu8701 Před rokem +1

    Hilarious listening to Keown talk about empathy for Kane missing pen. Has he forgotten van nisteroy missing penalty and his reaction?
    Come on mate 😂😂😂

  • @rossgordon235
    @rossgordon235 Před rokem +2

    man said “our national hero”😭🤣🤣😭🤣🤣

    • @imouto4hire
      @imouto4hire Před rokem +1

      England is a truly finished country if a loser like Harry Kane is held up as a national hero. 😂

  • @mariusschulz2926
    @mariusschulz2926 Před rokem +3

    At 3 min 50 Mark: Simon is so damn Spot on! 👏👏🇩🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿✌️👍

  • @AldershotDave
    @AldershotDave Před rokem +4

    I do like Simon Jordan! 😀
    I’d love to hear what his opinion is of Roberto Baggio (one of the world’s greatest player at the time) missing in the penalty shootout for Italy in the 1994 World Cup Final.

    • @jim526
      @jim526 Před rokem +2

      I’m pretty sure Maradona , Zico and Socrates all missed penalties at a World Cup .

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy Před rokem

      Oh, so that's Simon Jordan? I thought she was Clare Balding.

  • @yellowhill2872
    @yellowhill2872 Před rokem +2

    The big stage is not for Harry kane dats why he's still at Tottenham cause he's afraid of the pressure dat comes with it.

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy Před rokem

      Never trust a person who writes "dat" instead of 'that'. The reason being is that those people are idiots.

  • @cswaters85
    @cswaters85 Před rokem +1

    So Keown didn’t like hearing criticism from Jordan about his “hero” Kane, and after Jordan answers Keowns attacks, he attacks Jordan personally. When you attack someone on a personal level, you’ve lost the argument.

  • @kevinpillay6103
    @kevinpillay6103 Před rokem +3

    As harsh as Simon makes it sound he is right. When you are a leader like Kane is those moments are what you are needed for. When the goalkeeper makes a brilliant save that's life he guessed correct and saved it. Kicking it like a Rugby conversion is another story. Empathy and sympathy for those earning 250k a week and only want praise and no criticism.

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy Před rokem

      Simon? Oh, I thought that was Clare Balding. Is it not???

  • @stevemitch8320
    @stevemitch8320 Před rokem +1

    20 years ago belgium would have overachieved, 30 years ago spain you be surprised if they made it out the group stage. 10 years ago, england started welbeck, cleverley, young, glen johnson, parker every game. the expectation is adjusted accordingly based on what you have in hand. if southgate had squad from 12 years ago, he wouldnt even qualify for world cup.

  • @samsungmccullagh3608
    @samsungmccullagh3608 Před rokem +1

    Simon is correct, he fair on praise and also the bad , kane is decent player not world class , he dnt do it against bigger sides. The fact he got so many goals for England and Club is cuz no other forward or should say mangers over use kane. Southgate should of used other strikers in friendlies. Vardy stopped playing for England cuz he knew kane one 1st choice. I dnt blame him am sure others will do the same. Grealish only plays cuz media pressued Southgate too play him. Southgate has his favourites.

  • @um8778
    @um8778 Před rokem +4

    Gorilla arms literally said "national hero" 😂😂😂😂

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy Před rokem

      Better to be gorilla arms than be a spitting image of Clare Balding, like Simon is.

  • @coolcat1022
    @coolcat1022 Před rokem +6

    Let’s not forget that Harry Kane is an outstanding player who’s scored nearly 200 PL goals for Spurs. We all see that Mbappe is a level above with him delivering in the big moment and Kane doesn’t but we gotta remember that every player is only human at the end of the day. misses can happen

    • @hikedeco9749
      @hikedeco9749 Před rokem +1

      That's the difference between world class and elite, Harry Kane is world class,Mbappe is Elite

    • @nigget-tv-videos4135
      @nigget-tv-videos4135 Před rokem +1

      but also when players accept praise they should also accept the vice versa, and when the matters great people rise to the moment.

  • @christopherhlcheetham6614

    Really Martin, bringing up Palace, for shame

  • @Chris-si4ox
    @Chris-si4ox Před rokem +1

    missed penalties ... not limited to -
    Pearce 1990
    Gareth Southgate 1996
    David Batty 1998
    David Beckham 2004 (vs France & Portugal)
    Carragher, Gerrard, Lampard 2006
    Young & Cole 2012
    Rashford, Saka, Sancho 2021
    Kane 2022
    Its an England problem. Netherlands have a similar problem, they are also terrible at penalties. Germany & Argentina are awesome. Some national teams just have superior mental fortitude in critical moments which gets them over the line.

  • @forevergooner4400
    @forevergooner4400 Před rokem +10

    Simon is spot on. He bottled it in that moment. Harry is our best player but he felt the pressure and went out of character.
    Martin expects footballers to get all the praise and no criticism.

  • @MrJevman
    @MrJevman Před rokem +24

    Martin still making excuses for failure. This mindset is why England will never win anything.

    • @nuncaolvidare4895
      @nuncaolvidare4895 Před rokem

      Sí sí sí sí
      Estoy de acuerdo

    • @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool
      @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool Před rokem +2

      My estimation of Martin Keown as a man has plummeted since joining TalkSport. I thought that he was a true leader of men, after all he was in one of the greatest footballing sides in British football history. Yet here, he talks like a fucking wet lettuce. It's an absolute disgrace

    • @gemmawalker7385
      @gemmawalker7385 Před rokem

      England were beat before they even started think we mist sterling's pace and hard running always looking to get in behind. I would of played grealish instead off foden can't see what all the fuss is about he not strong enough yet I would rather mark him that kounde bullyed him he not a left winger

    • @nuncaolvidare4895
      @nuncaolvidare4895 Před rokem +1

      @@AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool aw ♥ my .... dios mío....🤗
      At last a man after my own heart. So to speak. Exactamente my thoughts. Everything you said. I'm so let down. He's so unmanly. I'm a lass and it's so wet. It's horrible 😞 man up

  • @PeppeQuintile94
    @PeppeQuintile94 Před rokem +1

    Simon schooling Martin on a weekly basis is amazing 🤣

  • @JosephAsamoah
    @JosephAsamoah Před rokem +1

    Actually Englands best penalty taker plays for Brentford and did not make the WC squad.

  • @benjaminfjelstad7287
    @benjaminfjelstad7287 Před rokem +3

    Martin Keown is a child.