StarCraft Brood War Retrospective
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- Howdy Folks and welcome! I hope this finds you well. Today we'll be focusing again on Starcraft, and its expansion Brood War. One of the all time classic RTS games and honestly a huge catalyst in online gaming that we see today.
Brood War's mechanics are beyond amazing, but how does the story hold up? There were so many questions at the end of starcraft 1 that I was hoping for a continuation of that epic saga. What I got, however, was something a bit different.
Join me in exploring the story of Brood War and Starcraft, in this retrospective. We'll be playing through each mission and talking about how the writers didn't hit as many highs as in the base game.
0:00 Intro
4:35 Protoss Campaign
20:30 Terran Campaign
36:32 Zerg Campaign
Link for the base game's retrospective:
• StarCraft Retrospectiv... - Hry
Howdy Folks! Thanks for stopping by! I would love to hear what your take on the story in Brood War, and your general opinion on the game itself. Hope this finds you well; if you enjoyed the video, leave a like or comment and if you really enjoyed it, check out my channel, there is something there for everyone.
All the best,
Dog Dad
lmao coolest intro ever , also thanks so much for the shoutout!!!!!
A few notes on the story that you might have overlooked.
When it comes to the part where the protoss are willing to hear Kerrigan out on out on shakuras.
1. You have the benefit of hindsight here, since you know what will happen. We don't know at this point what happened to kerrigan once the overmind died. I think it's not unreasonable at all to assume she might have changed when she's no longer being mind controlled by a huge evil brain blob.
2.Even if you disagree with that that. Zeratul trusts Raszagal and for good reason. The have known each other for millennia. The reason Raszagal is so trusting of kerrigan is because she's being mind controlled by kerrigan from the very start of broodwar. (this is heavily implied by Aldaris right before Kerrigan kills him)
But yes I also think Zeratul and Artanis are a bit naive here. Also they never nuked Aiur, it was just completely overrun by zerg.
As for the UED. I think it's implied that DuGalle is an arrogant prick who genuinely thought he could defeat the zerg without the psi disruptor.
I for one love the broodwar story. I feel like you think these characters have good reason to mistrust kerrigan when in lot of cases they really don't they have no idea what she's like without the control of the overmind.
I think another big part of sc1 and BW is the fact that there's a lot left to the imagination. There's a lot that happens in between missions that we never see. I just implied most of that stuff which made the story work for me personally.
But the bottom line is that I don't think they had as be a reason to distrust Kerrigan as you think.
Sorry for the ramble, but that's why the BW story works for me, great video!
Firstly, thank you so much for taking the time to write all of this. Even though I disagree with certain points, I agree with your sentiment. I'll do my best at replying to each point.
1. Absolutely, I guess I come from it from a historical view point; that even though you could be indoctrinated, it doesn't make you less of an evil person. I feel like Kerrigan, no matter what her motives or actions were based on, should never of even been in the conversation, when the Zerg are a force so destructive, it will take over the galaxy. I guess my thought is, I would be full firebat on any semblance of zerg.
2. That's what made me angry, is that Zeratul has known her, and he even comments about how she doesn't seem to be herself, but never questions that Kerrigan was on the dark templar planet while they're there? (or is that wrong, I can't remember), anyways, if your friend started talking about burning worlds down, when for 1000 plus years, they've been a nomadic tribe in the shadows, i don't know, I would be hesitant.
3. I love that, and never thought of that while writing the script. It might be one of the reasons why I love this series so much, is that even though for all its amazing specific designs and art styles, it does give a lot to the imagination; I'm assuming this and Ghost in a Shell are my main reasons for loving sci-fi.
4. Never apologize for writing your thoughts, that's part of this channel, is to have discussion and talk through subjects and topics in a calm/collected way, with the focus on our experiences and memories, which are our own, and should be shared.
Thank you again for taking the time to write this. I truly appreciate it, and hope this finds you well.
I'm really grateful for the reply! great to hear your thoughts, here are my thoughts.
1.it's beyond indoctrination, the overmind explains this in the original campaign (Zerg mission 5 briefing). "Fear not for she is bound to me as intimately as any cerebrate. truly, no zerg can stray from my will" this is why I feel that what kerrigan did in the original campaign has no bearing what so ever on her character in broodwar. She's not just indoctrinated, she is being straight up mind controlled by the overmind.
It turns out that even with the overmind gone she's still evil but Artanis and Zeratul had no way of knowing that. For all we know (at that point in the story) she could have gone back to her original human personality.
2.Raszagal never burns down planets. The worst things she does are 1.Nuking Shakuras which was the only way to save it. Zeratul even says as much before the final mission (Protoss campaign mission 8 briefing). 2.Ordering the assassination of Aldaris, which considering what we know of Aldaris from the first game doesn't seem that unreasonable. It is believable that he turned back to his old ways.
I grew up with these games, these characters are my childhood heroes so I'm very biased. I will however say that your point that Broodwar is mostly about setting up double-crosses rings very true. Never realized it before you pointed it out.
At the end of the day what stories we like and don't are 100% subjective, and I will always love the Broodwar story and you are free to dislike it. I do however think there's more nuance to it than you give it credit for.
Thanks agian for the great points you brought up in your video!
@@robinolander5533 fantastic, I truly appreciate your candor and writing. Your thoughts and commentary ring true and I see your side as well. I love this interaction because you're completely right when talking about subjectivity; and having the perspective to view it with other's lenses is a powerful experience.
I never really thought of it as mind control because she had that tendency to say things that I felt were her "human" side showing, or free will. Yet, with your view, her free will is actually an illusion, and that the overmind is truly in control. Wild stuff and truly stuff to think about for contemporary history; should indoctrination of an individual or lack of free will, give carte blanche to a person? Very interesting question, and something I want to use in my video game.
Thank you again for taking the time to write all this, and I hope this finds you well. Long live this game, this franchise, and our memories of it. En Taro Adun Robinolander.
Wow, i forgot how dumb the main characters were in the expansion. After I finished, i waited. I thought for sure we would only be waiting two years for a follow-up. I went from middle school to a university graduate, and then Starcraft 2 finally came out.
Good job with your videos.
Ahahahah thank you so much for sharing that, I’m glad I wasn’t the only one!
It’s crazy where time takes us… thank you for your kind words and I hope this finds you well.
this is a banger
I appreciate you!
I miss the Blizzard who made the original Starcraft and Brood War. Shame we didn't get Starcraft Ghost.
Hoping they port the 2017 remaster for SC1/Brood War to both current consoles and Steam.
Hard to believe the only console port for Starcraft 1/Brood War was on the freakin N64 lol. Why....
Howdy! Thanks for taking the time to comment. Absolutely, you could tell they enjoyed making the games, at least somewhat.
Ghost would be fantastic in a modern engine. Please blizzard! Bring back this universe. And oh boy the N64 version is bonkers and deserves its own video
@Dog.Dad.Studio, Ghost returning could be great. Unfortunately, most AAA game companies want live service focused stuff now, not single player focused games. I think Ghost was going to have an online mode that was similar to Command and Conquer Renegade's too.
Would've liked to see an M rated FPS from the perspective of a Terran Marine.
The N64 port is impressive, like RE2's N64 port. But, were these just done to see if they could actually pull them off? The PS1 was right there Blizzard. You had Warcraft 2 and Diablo 1 ported to PS1, but not Starcraft 1/BW!? EA brought early Command And Conquer games to PS1 just fine.
Heck, the PS2 launched the year the N64 port released. I don't get it...