Inmortal could take on a 1 to 1 fight a good amount of the viltrumites, as well as half of the rest of the team, so I guess Nolan means "weak" on an ideological or mental way. Which means their "weak" mindset made them a menace for Nolan's plan.
@@person906 "Nothing"reaching hard. In the show he "lost" but Immortal was enough of a threat that he needed to be killed. Twice. If the Guardians had better teamwork they might have won. Nolan almost died in that fight.
@@ericmadsen7470and we know that it's possible on some level to bring in people from the DC universe (hell even the marvel universe) to the Invincible universe so Cecil no doubt has that plan in his back pocket just in case 😂. And now there's even MK characters so Cecil has a whole other universe of contingency plans too
remember he doesn't control the teleportation thing someone else is there with a button and joystick staring at a screen deciding were he appears...that dude need a raise
@@seandent3732 i dont think so... I mean, there was an moment during this episode where Cecil was telling his team to teleport them to Eve and Mark so that he could give them the teleporting wrist bands but that obviously didn't happen cause they were on the move. So ya.. whoever was teleporting Cecil definitely plays a lot of video games lol
Fun fact: it was never mentioned in the show but Cecil mentioned in the comics that it costs taxpayers $5 million every time he teleports and that he's addicted to teleporting.
I love Cecil’s involuntary chuckles of relief every time he re-appears. It’s like in the micro second between things going black for him and him appearing he’s thinking: “OH GOD OH NO HE GOT ME IM DEAD OH G-“ *boop* *chuckle* “oh thank god”
Them acting in the same booth makes the show at least 80% better, S1 had some jank animation at some points and you hardly even notice it on account of the stellar voice work from pretty much everyone involved. No doubt S2 will look fuckin flawless with the budget increase making everything better, just like with the comics how the art got progressively better with each issue
0:40 i love how after Cecil says his line the person teleporting him immediately teleports him cus they thought Omni Man was going to attack but didn’t.
The guy controlling the teleporter was absolutely on the ball that day, and fulfilled his duty to Cecil's expectation. May he be paid well, and continue keeping his boss alive (even if occasionally missing a piece of clothing)
They make Cecil a lot more likable and sympathetic in the show than in the comic. Like you get that he’s a man that makes amoral, and difficult decisions for the protection of humanity but in the show it’s more clear that he actually feels things, and regrets the things he has to do.
I think this is an example of Robert Kirkman getting the chance to revisit his creations with the benefit of hindsight and years more experience. This version of Cecil Steadman evokes the strong impression of a fundamentally good man doing a difficult and dirty job that he hates, but that he feels is necessary for the greater good. His look, and Walton Goggins' voice acting, convey weariness and regret, but determination and conviction when they're called for.
He was definitely an anti hero in the comics who dipped a toe into villainy when he lost himself for a bit. But Mark hated him for VERY good reasons. Dude was a massive douchebag. In the show he shows disgust for the Reanimen and their creator, but in the comic he openly admires the dude for his ingenuity.
I like how when Cecil asks if Mark knows, Nolan has this look of terror at the thought of Mark finding out and probably knowing for certain that he won’t approve. Goes to show that after all this time, his family gave him a better purpose than Viltrum ever could. He doesn’t want to destroy Earth, but he feels he has to do it
Nolan lived life on Earth as a husband, a father, a friend, a hero. Things he probably never experienced before. He's dealing with emotions that are new to him, that don't match what his people taught him.
@@albertlofling7310 The last part is 50/50 at best by this point. post-debbie and Mark he has definitely softened, but he knows if he doesn't do what he's sent to do the consequences for him and the people of Earth will be 10x worse. ***SPOILER alert**** - he and Mark have to make this exact compromise (peaceful assimilation with the Viltrumites) much later with Thragg to avoid the complete destruction of earth
How many paint chips do you eat, Jake? Probably all of them. Cecil's actions led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. He even got his own men killed by sending them into Omniman's house with guns he KNEW couldn't hurt him. Cecil is the biggest failure in the show by far and should be fired.
It's great too cause the show established right from episode 1 that Omniman can kill anyone in less than a second, from then on every scene with the guy has a weight of tension.
@@RobThaBankAlso, the teleporter didn't cut his hand or teleport him too so that means he's resistant enough to flat-out ignore forced mass conversion to energy and transportation and actually keep said mass he has a physical grip on in-place because he kept the piece of tie he had a grip on and it was cut during the teletransportation because it couldn't get away from Omni-man. Dude's broken in levels that are hard to discern. And he isn't even a regular Superman level. Just very similar.
My favorite part about Nolan is that, despite all the rage, the pride, the violence . . . You still see glimpses of humanity within him, even at his very worse. Twinges of sympathy. Moments of regret. Feelings of sadness and reluctance.
Indoctrination is one hell of a drug but even some low level N@zi soldiers who had no idea of what was really going on thanks to clever propaganda were sickened and horrified when they saw what was really happening to Jewish people.
Which doesn't make sense, because coming from a Might is Right society that you have lived for hundreds of years making you that tough, there would be no way that in 20 years, which is measly time would change you that quick. Of course, I know it's done because it's a comic and the story would be incredibly short if Omni-man does eventually conquer Earth.
1:25 that unintentional slacking of the face in Nolan speaks so much about their relationship. He's legitimately shocked that Cecil considered him a proper friend and that his betrayal hurt. They weren't just coworkers. Cecil did consider him someone to rely on. And that furrowing of the brows and looking away at 1:00 shows Nolan's inner conflict. Cecil is reading him very well - Nolan didn't WANT to kill them. But if he didn't, then they'd get ripped apart by the Viltrumite backup. And many more people would die in the resistance.
Such amazing dialogue, a character who doesn’t fight at all but is just shown risking it all for a monologue and a shot at the antagonist’s conscience. The delivery is perfect
I got the impression Cecil didn't really believe they could stop Omni-Man. He just refused to give up without trying. He threw everything they had at Nolan, hoping something would stick. The juiced-up Hail Mary actually came close, though. If Mark hadn't interfered she might have killed Nolan.
@@danieldickson8591 Hail Mary (if she couldn;t completely kill him) would have at least, totally knocked him out/incapacitated him long enough for Cecil to come up with a more permanent solution. Heck she was handling both Omni-Man and Invincible at the same time, for a good bit. Until they managed to knock her out. She's still alive, and i'm sure she will return.
@joemogley Not exactly. He just made a poor comparison. The truth is that Debbie is a little part of Nolan's life while Nolan is a whole Debbie's life.
@@Styles_Breez what do you mean no? Throughout the entire conversation cecil is always on a surface elevated higher than Omni-man. He was morally and physically above Omni-man
@@jacksonfairfax6351 no he's not tho. At 1:17 til the end, Omni-man goes above him as soon as Debbie is mentioned, & there are several extremely clear shots of him above Cecil.
@@Styles_Breez I guess so, but majority of the conversation he is on a higher ground. I guess it could be looked at that Cecil hit him with a low blow mentioning Debbie so he lost the morale high ground against him
@@samcochran8203 Cecil saw Nolan as a friend up until now. He’s saying that Omniman’s betrayal hurt both Cecil and Debby (Nolan’s wife) emotionally. (Don’t even mention Mark)
Cecil is the MVP at what? Getting his own men killed for no reason? Wasting taxpayer money? Getting civilians killed? His whole plan to delay Omniman FAILED. And it was nonsense from the beginning since Omniman could have spoken with Mark at any point in time. Even the Hail Mary was a pointless plan since Omniman could have just stayed out of its range if it weren't for plot-induced stupidity. I swear, Cecil fans are as mentally stunted as he is.
The little nuances in Nolan's face when Cecil brings up Debby being hurt and the reason for killing the guardian's is kind of heart breaking after knowing he genuinely grew feelings for his family and friends.
Honestly, the fact Nolan tells Cecile to never use Debbie's name is very telling. Both that he loves her, but also that he considers that love to be a weakness and doesn't want to let Cecil exploit it.
@@JK-zo8qf yes I've read the invincible comics too. Gotta say though, the show does switch some things around and I think for a show with alot of action these changes would make sense
There's quite a number of changes from the comics. For one, Mark only meets Cecil after Omni-Man leaves Earth. Neither did Cecil or any of the GDA confront Omni-Man prior to his fight with the Immortal and Mark. Darkblood wasn't sent back to hell by Cecil; he submitted his investigarion to the GDA, only to be laughed at since by that time the whole world had already known that Omni-Man killed the Guardians. And Donald was a cyborg from the very start. So who knows how exactly Cecil will die in the series?
Not Batman, Cecil is a good version of Lex Luthor (both are bald and extremely rich and geniuses) while Omni-man is an evil version of Superman (I know later Omni-man change to be good or somewhat antihero because the love for his earthling family)
@@edschramm6757 I mean, what could he do that any other human with a gun couldn't? Humans kill humans all the time, the trouble is making this one pay for it, which again is a problem with some humans.
@@logicplague2077 it's not the threat of death that is necessarily the problem. It's the threat of death from a being I have 0 shot of causing damage to, let alone significant injury, and that physically I have no shot of evading without a teleporter
Love how Cecil admitted he couldn't stop him, he was there just to buy time. But he was also there to do soemthing else; turn those screws of guilt into Omniman...and it worked.
I love the facial expressions of Omni man. You can tell that the entire time Cecil is talking to him that Nolan is trying incredibly hard not to care or stick to his “means to an end” mentality but deep down he truly does feel bad for what he’s done even if ever so slightly 10/10 writing and acting
This scene made Cecil one of my favorite characters in the series. At the beginning he seemed just like a typical G-man dude who was all about results and didn't care about people. But as time passes you realize that he's actually incredibly complex, and hates himself for so many of the things he does, even if they're for the greater good. You can feel his pain when he says they were friends. He's angry, betrayed, he's lost someone who he truly cares about. Not only that, but he's willing to stand Nolan down himself, alone. He's got the teleporter, but he has to trust the operator to save him. This moment is more badass than anything Omni-Man did all season. Omni-Man's basically invulnerable, he's never scared of losing. Cecil is just a man, but he only puts himself in danger in this scene, no backup, and just to slow Omni-Man down.
"I've faced death more times than I can count, but I'll be damned if that didn't put my balls in my throat" is a line that goes hard as fuck Both the "I've faced death a lot" part and the "that actually got me shaken there" is just such a raw admission of respect
True even without the medical help he would eventually woke up viltrumites have a really good regeneration system and there skin is super hard to cut so all they really did was exhaust him/ knock him out
@@markusvykos8750 but you’re forgetting that in the same comics the guardians were able to beat him in a different universe because they weren’t caught off guard
If they ever made an "Invincible" game, this part NEEDS to be put in there and made ridiculously hard, that way we can feel exactly how fast and precise the man controlling Cecil's teleporter had to be to keep him alive.
Cecil is just awesome. What a baller move right here. Kudos to the writers and animators as well. Can we please get everything this mythology has to offer? When Cecil reappears in safety all of the characters looks surprised for his well being for a fraction of a second :wow:. This is fantastic, thank you for your efforts. Edit: Also, the ambiguous nature of Omni Man only severing the tie when it *could* have been within his reach to just murder Cecil (he doesn't seem surprised he is clutching only tie) is a fantastic touch. This is good stuff. Inverse Superman is a great concept to explore.
@@kitty-danger Cecil almost defeated Omni-Man with the Kaiju were it not for Mark's help. He can probably make a stupid robot talk with the facilities he has access to...👍🏻
You just know the person controlling Cecil's teleporter was just chugging a shitload of caffeine to be able to teleport him on time to dodge Omni-Man several times 😂😂
As a newcomer to this show and without having read the comics, I truly do believe that as ruthless and destructive is Omni-Man is, he’s the only one of his race who has a heart.
@@darkmatter1721Yea I think in the comics Viltrum sends undercover agents to Earth, but it kind of backfires bc some of them get attached to their new lives. The conditions on Viltrum are just too hardcore they all end up bloodthirsty lunatics
This was one of my favorite scenes. You can see the shame on omni man's face. This guy is calling him out, and he can't stop it from happening. I thought Cecil was dead for sure.
"Don't say her name!" What Cecil said about Debbie being hurt about his heel turn cut him deep. You could tell that pet comment he had about her later was a self-coping lie.
I love when Omniman goes "Don't say her name..." when Cecil mentions Debbie. Despite his posturing, it was pretty clear that Omniman was very defensive towards his wife and had clear strong feelings of love towards her
If it were any other viltrimite, they would’ve wasted no time trying to kill Cecil but even when Nolan attacked he still paused to hear Cecil out. Cecil mentioning the guardians, Debbie and Mark made Nolan pause and show emotion about all of them.
The dialogue in this scene is top notch. It's really hard to do superhero type shows of any kind and still make them "real". Nolan wasn't cartoonishly blood thirsty, but he has a mission and wants to complete it. But Cecil was able to get past his tough exterior with probing questions. Just well done. Better dialogue than anything, for example, done in the DC universe, other than the Heath Ledger and Tom Hardy Batman movies.
1:01: I love that small look of regret on Nolan’s face when Cecil tells him he knows there was a good reason to why Omni-Man killed the Guardians. You can kinda tell that Nolan didn’t really want to kill them, but because of his loyalty to Viltrum, he probably felt obligated to eliminate them as part of his mission. It’s heartbreaking to see that Nolan somewhat regrets what he’s done, but he probably knows he must complete his mission for Viltrum and that it’s too late to turn back now.
No i don't think he's an anti hero. Sure he can do some fcked up things,but he does it to save the world. Id consider him a antihero if he was doing this for some personal goal .As far as Im concerned,he's a pretty selfless guy, who sure he's kinda of a cold mf at times,but he's still a hero@@ebonkinght
Omni man seems like a good and bad guy. Good character development and acting. Looking forward to knowing why he killed them. Please no one spoil it for us, comic readers. will just wait and see. Cecil is awesome btw
Non-comic reader here. I think his reasons are pretty clear. "Earth isn't yours to rule" "We have a responsibility, as Viltrumites." "Mark don't waste your time on the low human issues" I feel like it's pretty obvious why Omni does the things he does. I may be wrong, but I don't see how.
Unlike the comic the show has given a few obvious hints for you to figure out his reason. He'll explain the more obvious one in the next episode, but there's an even more secret reason behind what he's doing that wouldn't be said until season 2 (or season 3, depends on how they do it). What's cool about it is that they even hinted some of that with his dialogues and reactions. Just ask yourself, why didn't he kill the Guardians until now if he's been on Earth for 20 years?
@Master Derin I assume, given that he seemed to have positive interactions with them and his conversation with Cecil, that he liked them. They were his friends for years. It's just that his mission came first, and when he couldn't put it off anymore he had to do it.
@Master Derin I don't, really. He came to care for them and his family. Maybe so much so that he put thoughts of domination out of his mind. But when he couldn't post-pone it any longer, when the Viltrumites were on their way, he had to make sure they were out of the picture. That's all I think it is
Love it when cecil brings up the reason why he did it. Only to have omni man look away almost in regret. like he knew what he did wrong. But just couldn't admit it due to his loyalty.
Something about those little moments of Cecil catching his breath after evading Nolan's attacks as well as how self-aware he is of his own actions makes him one of the best characters in the show version of the story
With the announcement of Season 2, this scene popped back up in my recommended section and I gotta say this: I don't think Cecil's actor, Walton Goggins, gets enough credit for how convincing his acting was for Cecil. Checking BehindtheVoiceActors, he's had maybe three roles including Cecil, but he fucking nails the tone. He's absolutely no nonsense, no bullshit, but at the same time there's moments where Cecil lets his emotional guard down and you can hear it in his voice. The way he retorts "They were your friends! And so was I!", that's not JUST him stalling Nolan, there's genuine anger and hurt in his voice. Cecil was so perfectly cast and it's an incredible shame that Goggins hasn't had many more VA roles. And I can't wait to hear more of him in Season 2 (Apparently along with Josh Keaton, which is fucking rad, he played Hal Jordan in Green Lantern: The Animated Series and I desperately hope he gets to play someone that sounds similar to Hal as well).
I like to think everything goes black when he teleports. So in that microsecond in the darkness, Cecil's mind wonders if the lights are coming back on becuz he teleported, or its staying off becuz he's dead.
A reminder that there’s a third guy that manually operates the GDA teleporter. Cecil is a good enough leader that he can easily put his life in the hands of his own men.
I love Cecil, he's basically what would happen if Amanda Waller was 100% right about the Justice League. (The JL cartoon version). Imagine if those two teamed up?
1 to get there. Another to dodge throat grab. A third to avoid getting tackled. A fourth to play dodge ball. A fifth just for fun I suppose? A sixth to avoid a small hurricane with a chance for earthquake. And a last one to tap out. So Cecil teleported 7 times, costing tax payers $35 million.
This is what we need more in not just comics but anime too. Side characters or not as powerful characters not being afraid to call out bs on more powerful characters, stepping in to help regardless of any disadvantages, and not just dickriding the main character to a painful extent.
I respect Cecil a lot because what he does he does for the actual goodness and safety of the world, he may work with villains and do sorta immoral things but it’s ultimately for a better world, nick fury is if you put a Cecil in an ideal world where the heroes are really heroes and where the villains are just villains, and Amanda Waller really is if you take a Cecil and corrupt him entirely and take away his care for the safety of others, Cecil looked into the abyss and came out a stronger man for it
im so glad i started reading the comics, i understand so much more between Nolan and Cecil, wow this showed changed a lot, it tells the story in a much better imo but it helps to have context on both their backstories
Bruh that last teleport, Cecil already teleported before Nolan even started moving and yet was still able to, at the very least, make contact with his clothes and even grab his tie.
Cecil likely foreshadowed his death in this episode, though we don't know when that scene happens, unless if the writers decide to not kill him off at all when the series ends
That’s the thing about lying; it’s like crime. It doesn’t matter what you did, how long you got away with it, or even when you die with no one knowing. The truth always will come out.
Cecil casually hemorrhaging our economy with each teleport. Willing to bet he would gladly waste tens of millions just to teleport straight to Starbucks,just for his morning cup of java 😂
It's canon that cecil is legit addicted to using that teleport watch, because it saves him the time of walking, and for a guy that sits in a bath of goo for a little while rather than sleeping like a normal person because it gives him so much more time to work with, you know he's gonna have a death grip on that watch
I love how Cecil looks genuinely hurt when Nolan says “They were weak”.
Inmortal could take on a 1 to 1 fight a good amount of the viltrumites, as well as half of the rest of the team, so I guess Nolan means "weak" on an ideological or mental way.
Which means their "weak" mindset made them a menace for Nolan's plan.
Cecil would have a plan S. S for Superman if Cecil couldn't get though to Nolan and if the teleporter had failed.
@@kezia-lemonthorne2507i guess immortal could hold his own against a weaker viltrumite but to Omni man he's still nothing
@@person906 "Nothing"reaching hard. In the show he "lost" but Immortal was enough of a threat that he needed to be killed. Twice. If the Guardians had better teamwork they might have won. Nolan almost died in that fight.
@@ericmadsen7470and we know that it's possible on some level to bring in people from the DC universe (hell even the marvel universe) to the Invincible universe so Cecil no doubt has that plan in his back pocket just in case 😂. And now there's even MK characters so Cecil has a whole other universe of contingency plans too
remember he doesn't control the teleportation thing someone else is there with a button and joystick staring at a screen deciding were he appears...that dude need a raise
"Dude."
No shit dude he must play alot of video games his reaction time is off the charts
imagine if it lagged💀
@@pierre1069. "Fucked," he is.
bro pleeease even without a spoiler warning this was just way to obvious...
Whoever was controlling Cecil's teleporter needs a damn raise.
Youre damn right, he doesn’t control the coordinates of where he teleports right?
@@seandent3732 i dont think so... I mean, there was an moment during this episode where Cecil was telling his team to teleport them to Eve and Mark so that he could give them the teleporting wrist bands but that obviously didn't happen cause they were on the move. So ya.. whoever was teleporting Cecil definitely plays a lot of video games lol
@@scarletflare5694 Man probably finished Metal Slug with one coin
@@brianmachado4839 impossible, only Mexicans can do that shit
@@kyps1259 Of course we can
Fun fact: it was never mentioned in the show but Cecil mentioned in the comics that it costs taxpayers $5 million every time he teleports and that he's addicted to teleporting.
@Master Derin agreed. He was able to keep the worlds fastest man distracted for 2min. That's like an hour in speedster time
How many times did he teleport in this scene?
@@riptideanomy1024 6 times I think
@@APerson-ws4cw 7, I kept score and I think it’s 7 for him to be out there in the first place
@@riptideanomy1024 that’s 35 million in tax dollars then
Money well spent
The amount of trust Cecil puts into the person teleporting him is more trust than I put in my own family.
I wouldn’t even trust myself that much tbh…
It’s no way it’s a person. There is feed lag. Lag from finger to button. That’s computer calculated.
Well, your families only purpose is to ruin every good moment in life. Whereas the teleporter controller is paid to keep him alive.
@@jsdzx That's why Cecil was teleported at the very last moment every time
@@DirtCheapFU Damn man, dark.
Imagine the person controlling the teleporter was a second off.
We saw what happens when he was a micro second off, Nolan only needed one more
@@ishthewall1915 Agreed, that tie rip and smoke on his chest literally showed Nolan was a microsecond off in killing Cecil.
@@zombiessquirrel yep if he was a tiny bit later he would have died
Teleporter guy：Pro starcraft player
Oh no input lag
The fact that Cecil managed to get a direct shot at Nolan is an impressive feat in and of itself.
Bro has aimbot 💀
Must be a gun with AI aiming like this new rifles
Not really. He was traveling in a straight line at a constant speed.
@@JohnSmith-xt2dmStill impressive
@@SketchTurnerZero I'd like to see you hit a target moving that fast
I love Cecil’s involuntary chuckles of relief every time he re-appears. It’s like in the micro second between things going black for him and him appearing he’s thinking:
“OH GOD OH NO HE GOT ME IM DEAD OH G-“
*boop*
*chuckle* “oh thank god”
I'd say thank the guy running that teleportation system more!
@@Spartan3101200I mean, with that timing, maybe the teleporter dude IS God.
that's why he's got those industrial strength adult diapers!
you mean gasps right :P
I mean I don't think he'd even register if he died. The teleporter + good camera/feed are the people who are having heartattacks
This show demonstrates over and over again how much of a leg up great voice acting gives you. I’m absolutely hyped for season 2.
when?
Yeah, the voice acting really is amazing. What's cool, too, is that we get decent quality animation to go along with it.
@Alamandorious I've always felt there was something off with the voice acting in this show. To me it's terrible.
Them acting in the same booth makes the show at least 80% better, S1 had some jank animation at some points and you hardly even notice it on account of the stellar voice work from pretty much everyone involved. No doubt S2 will look fuckin flawless with the budget increase making everything better, just like with the comics how the art got progressively better with each issue
@@fushion999really? It's pretty believable considering they play scenes out in the same booth and make it sound more like an actual conversation
0:40 i love how after Cecil says his line the person teleporting him immediately teleports him cus they thought Omni Man was going to attack but didn’t.
The guy controlling the teleporter was absolutely on the ball that day, and fulfilled his duty to Cecil's expectation. May he be paid well, and continue keeping his boss alive (even if occasionally missing a piece of clothing)
Damn thats a great detail
@@benjamin3658Nah bro, he just teleported him for the cinematography Lmao.
@@user-wu8qc9bb3e that shot was way too good for just 5 million
dude was on 10 grams of speed and amphetamines
They make Cecil a lot more likable and sympathetic in the show than in the comic. Like you get that he’s a man that makes amoral, and difficult decisions for the protection of humanity but in the show it’s more clear that he actually feels things, and regrets the things he has to do.
All summed up in a single line after Debbie says why she hates him, "It's why I hate me too."
Yeah I noticed that too, like he was good in the comics but never showed feelings
@@emilovesyou3005 Yeah, he was definitely a villain in the comics
I think this is an example of Robert Kirkman getting the chance to revisit his creations with the benefit of hindsight and years more experience. This version of Cecil Steadman evokes the strong impression of a fundamentally good man doing a difficult and dirty job that he hates, but that he feels is necessary for the greater good. His look, and Walton Goggins' voice acting, convey weariness and regret, but determination and conviction when they're called for.
He was definitely an anti hero in the comics who dipped a toe into villainy when he lost himself for a bit. But Mark hated him for VERY good reasons. Dude was a massive douchebag. In the show he shows disgust for the Reanimen and their creator, but in the comic he openly admires the dude for his ingenuity.
I like how when Cecil asks if Mark knows, Nolan has this look of terror at the thought of Mark finding out and probably knowing for certain that he won’t approve. Goes to show that after all this time, his family gave him a better purpose than Viltrum ever could. He doesn’t want to destroy Earth, but he feels he has to do it
He doesnt want to destroy earth because he is there to conquer it. He wants to subjugate it
Is it terror? regret? sadness? second guessing? Regardless these small moments show how much mark matters to him.
Nolan lived life on Earth as a husband, a father, a friend, a hero. Things he probably never experienced before. He's dealing with emotions that are new to him, that don't match what his people taught him.
@@albertlofling7310 The last part is 50/50 at best by this point. post-debbie and Mark he has definitely softened, but he knows if he doesn't do what he's sent to do the consequences for him and the people of Earth will be 10x worse. ***SPOILER alert**** - he and Mark have to make this exact compromise (peaceful assimilation with the Viltrumites) much later with Thragg to avoid the complete destruction of earth
@@andersj91 im sorry how is this relevant to amber?
I have even more respect for this man. Throwing away his moral values and risking his life to face one of the strongest being in the world.
He was buying time by facing him. Do you think it would have had the same effect on Omniman if he wasn’t physically there talking to him?
THE strongest being
How many paint chips do you eat, Jake? Probably all of them. Cecil's actions led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. He even got his own men killed by sending them into Omniman's house with guns he KNEW couldn't hurt him. Cecil is the biggest failure in the show by far and should be fired.
@@MungoFishing how?
@@Davidtheevil_666Nobody was stronger
The realistic “ohs” when Cecil barely makes it back are one of the things that I like about this show- realistic responses
It's great too cause the show established right from episode 1 that Omniman can kill anyone in less than a second, from then on every scene with the guy has a weight of tension.
This the comment I was looking for. Him ripping that piece of the tie really puts in perspective how fast he really is
@@RobThaBankAlso, the teleporter didn't cut his hand or teleport him too so that means he's resistant enough to flat-out ignore forced mass conversion to energy and transportation and actually keep said mass he has a physical grip on in-place because he kept the piece of tie he had a grip on and it was cut during the teletransportation because it couldn't get away from Omni-man.
Dude's broken in levels that are hard to discern. And he isn't even a regular Superman level. Just very similar.
Yeah conversations and relationships in this show feel a lot more natural and realistic than a lot of shows, especially animated.
My favorite part about Nolan is that, despite all the rage, the pride, the violence . . .
You still see glimpses of humanity within him, even at his very worse.
Twinges of sympathy. Moments of regret. Feelings of sadness and reluctance.
And it all slams home for him when Mark says, "I'd still have you, Dad."
Indoctrination is one hell of a drug but even some low level N@zi soldiers who had no idea of what was really going on thanks to clever propaganda were sickened and horrified when they saw what was really happening to Jewish people.
Even when Cecil mentioning the Guardians, you clearly see a glimpse of grief and regret in Nolan
Which doesn't make sense, because coming from a Might is Right society that you have lived for hundreds of years making you that tough, there would be no way that in 20 years, which is measly time would change you that quick. Of course, I know it's done because it's a comic and the story would be incredibly short if Omni-man does eventually conquer Earth.
Nolan is Viltrumite, not human. How can someone that isn't human... have humanity?
1:25 that unintentional slacking of the face in Nolan speaks so much about their relationship. He's legitimately shocked that Cecil considered him a proper friend and that his betrayal hurt. They weren't just coworkers. Cecil did consider him someone to rely on. And that furrowing of the brows and looking away at 1:00 shows Nolan's inner conflict. Cecil is reading him very well - Nolan didn't WANT to kill them. But if he didn't, then they'd get ripped apart by the Viltrumite backup. And many more people would die in the resistance.
Such amazing dialogue, a character who doesn’t fight at all but is just shown risking it all for a monologue and a shot at the antagonist’s conscience. The delivery is perfect
all to give the world some time
I got the impression Cecil didn't really believe they could stop Omni-Man. He just refused to give up without trying. He threw everything they had at Nolan, hoping something would stick. The juiced-up Hail Mary actually came close, though. If Mark hadn't interfered she might have killed Nolan.
@@danieldickson8591 Hail Mary (if she couldn;t completely kill him) would have at least, totally knocked him out/incapacitated him long enough for Cecil to come up with a more permanent solution.
Heck she was handling both Omni-Man and Invincible at the same time, for a good bit. Until they managed to knock her out. She's still alive, and i'm sure she will return.
Yeah man Walt Goggins absolutely kills it as Cecil I love this character in this series
I just love how he admits that he's just buying some time. That's actually quite rare use of monologue.
"Dont say her name" are not the words of someone who considers her a pet
He doesn't actually consider her a pet. He's lying to himself
@joemogley Not exactly. He just made a poor comparison. The truth is that Debbie is a little part of Nolan's life while Nolan is a whole Debbie's life.
@@gameover878doesn’t matter, Debbie isn’t a “ pet “ in any way.
@@Mayan_88694 I know, just a poor comparison because of lack of empathy.
Nolan is trying to distance himself emotionally by calling Debbie a pet.
Cecil was ON POINT absolutely bodied Omni man in this scene
Another thing to notice is that he was always on a higher level of him in the conversation. always had the high ground. Physically and morally
@@jacksonfairfax6351 uhhh no
@@Styles_Breez what do you mean no? Throughout the entire conversation cecil is always on a surface elevated higher than Omni-man. He was morally and physically above Omni-man
@@jacksonfairfax6351 no he's not tho. At 1:17 til the end, Omni-man goes above him as soon as Debbie is mentioned, & there are several extremely clear shots of him above Cecil.
@@Styles_Breez I guess so, but majority of the conversation he is on a higher ground. I guess it could be looked at that Cecil hit him with a low blow mentioning Debbie so he lost the morale high ground against him
“You hurt her, not me. She and I have that in common now...”
-Oof. That comment probably did more damage than the Orbital Laser.
Nolan was boiling inside.
Under appreciated line
What did he mean by "She and I have that in common now"?
@@samcochran8203 Cecil saw Nolan as a friend up until now. He’s saying that Omniman’s betrayal hurt both Cecil and Debby (Nolan’s wife) emotionally. (Don’t even mention Mark)
@@samcochran8203he was hurt too
Cecil was the MVP this episode
nah, the person who teleported him was the real MVP
f that, the real MVP was the guy in charge of which drugs to give Hail Mary
Cecil is the MVP at what? Getting his own men killed for no reason? Wasting taxpayer money? Getting civilians killed? His whole plan to delay Omniman FAILED. And it was nonsense from the beginning since Omniman could have spoken with Mark at any point in time. Even the Hail Mary was a pointless plan since Omniman could have just stayed out of its range if it weren't for plot-induced stupidity. I swear, Cecil fans are as mentally stunted as he is.
Nah the real mvp is whoever managed to feed Hail Mary the teleporter and live
@@puppergump4117 Who says they lived?
The little nuances in Nolan's face when Cecil brings up Debby being hurt and the reason for killing the guardian's is kind of heart breaking after knowing he genuinely grew feelings for his family and friends.
Honestly, the fact Nolan tells Cecile to never use Debbie's name is very telling. Both that he loves her, but also that he considers that love to be a weakness and doesn't want to let Cecil exploit it.
Cecil is a pretty cool character, hopefully he doesn't get killed off anytime soon
😗Yeaaaa.....
@@JK-zo8qf yes I've read the invincible comics too. Gotta say though, the show does switch some things around and I think for a show with alot of action these changes would make sense
Soon? Nah. Way later? Lol
There's quite a number of changes from the comics. For one, Mark only meets Cecil after Omni-Man leaves Earth. Neither did Cecil or any of the GDA confront Omni-Man prior to his fight with the Immortal and Mark. Darkblood wasn't sent back to hell by Cecil; he submitted his investigarion to the GDA, only to be laughed at since by that time the whole world had already known that Omni-Man killed the Guardians. And Donald was a cyborg from the very start.
So who knows how exactly Cecil will die in the series?
@@Nazareth07. fuckin right. Also the pacing is insanely good for everything that happens in The comics
Damn for man with money and power he seriously went up against the most powerful man
Batman
@@overlordzero316 *Lex Luthor
Not Batman, Cecil is a good version of Lex Luthor (both are bald and extremely rich and geniuses) while Omni-man is an evil version of Superman (I know later Omni-man change to be good or somewhat antihero because the love for his earthling family)
Honestly guys i was thinking rick vs Phoenix person but yeah okay DC reference it is
Damn. Cecil got balls. I wouldn't think twice if i was to face off against a foe such a omni man. Dude could tear you apart.
Grammar nazi: "I would think twice" lol
I wouldn't think twice... I'd see what I'm up against and bail.
@@edschramm6757 I mean, what could he do that any other human with a gun couldn't? Humans kill humans all the time, the trouble is making this one pay for it, which again is a problem with some humans.
@@logicplague2077 it's not the threat of death that is necessarily the problem. It's the threat of death from a being I have 0 shot of causing damage to, let alone significant injury, and that physically I have no shot of evading without a teleporter
Johnny Cage could beat him
“Keep out of this Cecil”
then IMMEDIATELY tries to kill him
Love how Cecil admitted he couldn't stop him, he was there just to buy time. But he was also there to do soemthing else; turn those screws of guilt into Omniman...and it worked.
0:52 such hearbreaking 😢
I love the facial expressions of Omni man. You can tell that the entire time Cecil is talking to him that Nolan is trying incredibly hard not to care or stick to his “means to an end” mentality but deep down he truly does feel bad for what he’s done even if ever so slightly
10/10 writing and acting
This scene made Cecil one of my favorite characters in the series. At the beginning he seemed just like a typical G-man dude who was all about results and didn't care about people. But as time passes you realize that he's actually incredibly complex, and hates himself for so many of the things he does, even if they're for the greater good.
You can feel his pain when he says they were friends. He's angry, betrayed, he's lost someone who he truly cares about. Not only that, but he's willing to stand Nolan down himself, alone. He's got the teleporter, but he has to trust the operator to save him. This moment is more badass than anything Omni-Man did all season. Omni-Man's basically invulnerable, he's never scared of losing. Cecil is just a man, but he only puts himself in danger in this scene, no backup, and just to slow Omni-Man down.
"I've faced death more times than I can count, but I'll be damned if that didn't put my balls in my throat" is a line that goes hard as fuck
Both the "I've faced death a lot" part and the "that actually got me shaken there" is just such a raw admission of respect
The fact that his natural accent comes through a little in those lines is brilliant, shows how shaken up he is as opposed to his normal demeanour
The voice acting in this show is so freaking amazing! I expected nothing less from J.K. but it's not just him. The whole cast is great.
I love that you can already see the gears of empathy starting to turn.
Nolan is already doubting himself even if he doesnt recognize it as such.
Its funny how cecils gun is shaped into the very question he wanted to ask Nolan
HOLY SHIT 😂
I don't get it, could someone explain,
Edit: wait never mind I get it, cause the barrel is shaped like a Y, and cecil is asking why.
0:56 he has the High ground.
It's over Nolan! I have the (moral) high ground!
You underestimate my power
@@asifahamad8704 no
@@asifahamad8704 don’t try it
He didn't try it (good ending)
“They were weak”
They also beat you within an inch of your life tho 😯
True even without the medical help he would eventually woke up viltrumites have a really good regeneration system and there skin is super hard to cut so all they really did was exhaust him/ knock him out
@@DenimbagsEven then,that only happens in the show,in the comics they die basically off screen with Omniman taking 0 damage
@@markusvykos8750 but you’re forgetting that in the same comics the guardians were able to beat him in a different universe because they weren’t caught off guard
@@Denimbags Everything fell apart when the speedster died lmao.
@@andrewgarfield9898 ooh I didn't remember that,do you remember the issue number? I'd like to read that
If they ever made an "Invincible" game, this part NEEDS to be put in there and made ridiculously hard, that way we can feel exactly how fast and precise the man controlling Cecil's teleporter had to be to keep him alive.
1:57 love the look of surprise on Nolan’s face when Cecil reveals he’s known about the murders for a while
I still love how it’s implied through Nolan’s expressions that he feels remorse for killing the other heroes.
Cecil is underrated AF
Even of this was a mind game to gain time, you really do get the feeling that Cecil cared about Omni Man
My favorite part of this exchange is Cecil's revolted expression when Omni-Man calls the Guardians "weak".
Everything about Omni-Man is revolting. They're never gonna be okay or forgive what he did and planned to do to them.
Cecil is just awesome. What a baller move right here. Kudos to the writers and animators as well. Can we please get everything this mythology has to offer? When Cecil reappears in safety all of the characters looks surprised for his well being for a fraction of a second :wow:. This is fantastic, thank you for your efforts.
Edit: Also, the ambiguous nature of Omni Man only severing the tie when it *could* have been within his reach to just murder Cecil (he doesn't seem surprised he is clutching only tie) is a fantastic touch. This is good stuff. Inverse Superman is a great concept to explore.
I like how when Cecil says "Im a VERY good liar" he doesnt sound or look happy or proud of it. He's not bragging.
This remembers that part whete Debbie says "that's why i hate you" and he replies "that's why i hate myself too"
"You thought that could hurt me."
*sweating nervously
"N-No."
Cecil: Tries every contingency to stop Omni-Man
Also Cecil: Completely forgot abt the one person who whooped Mark's ass
He wouldn't know how to call him
@@kitty-danger Machine head
@@muinoel3335 would machine head tell him
@@kitty-danger Cecil almost defeated Omni-Man with the Kaiju were it not for Mark's help. He can probably make a stupid robot talk with the facilities he has access to...👍🏻
@@muinoel3335 but would he be able to get in their in time and would he even come as he only cares about battle
the way he says "lying piece of shit" is just perfect 1:56
You just know the person controlling Cecil's teleporter was just chugging a shitload of caffeine to be able to teleport him on time to dodge Omni-Man several times 😂😂
He was very close to death, i think he's disappointed and mad that his favorite tie is now ruined.
THE PERSON CONTROLLING THE TELIPORTER IS A VERY HARDCORE GAMER IF HE WAS EVEN A MILISECOND OFF
As a newcomer to this show and without having read the comics, I truly do believe that as ruthless and destructive is Omni-Man is, he’s the only one of his race who has a heart.
Nolan just had more time to get attached than the rest, a good amount of them would've gone through the same thing
@@darkmatter1721 Your mother would have gone through the same thing.
@@darkmatter1721rekt
@@darkmatter1721Yea I think in the comics Viltrum sends undercover agents to Earth, but it kind of backfires bc some of them get attached to their new lives. The conditions on Viltrum are just too hardcore they all end up bloodthirsty lunatics
@@littlespriggan yep, nature vs nurture in real time
My favorite thing about Cecil is when he's asked who's above him he says "No one. The president doesn't even know I exit." lol
Nobody talks about how Cecil hit a flying Omniman with a directed energy weapon. That's some hardcore accuracy
Im not the best with math but looked as if he was flying at least close to a cruiser plane speed
This was one of my favorite scenes. You can see the shame on omni man's face. This guy is calling him out, and he can't stop it from happening. I thought Cecil was dead for sure.
"Don't say her name!"
What Cecil said about Debbie being hurt about his heel turn cut him deep. You could tell that pet comment he had about her later was a self-coping lie.
I love when Omniman goes "Don't say her name..." when Cecil mentions Debbie. Despite his posturing, it was pretty clear that Omniman was very defensive towards his wife and had clear strong feelings of love towards her
the fact that a regular human picked a fight with a Viltrumite and didn't die is impressive
I love that Omniman is so conflicting with his Decision, I already know why but man it's so good
1:17 “Keep my pet’s name out your f**king mouth!”
If it were any other viltrimite, they would’ve wasted no time trying to kill Cecil but even when Nolan attacked he still paused to hear Cecil out. Cecil mentioning the guardians, Debbie and Mark made Nolan pause and show emotion about all of them.
Conquest in particular would have been RUTHLESS. Cecil would be dead ☠️
@@brunowillich1837 my point is exactly, Nolan wasn’t coming at Cecil the way any other viltrimite would’ve handled him.
once in a lifetime interaction that saved the world
The dialogue in this scene is top notch. It's really hard to do superhero type shows of any kind and still make them "real". Nolan wasn't cartoonishly blood thirsty, but he has a mission and wants to complete it. But Cecil was able to get past his tough exterior with probing questions. Just well done. Better dialogue than anything, for example, done in the DC universe, other than the Heath Ledger and Tom Hardy Batman movies.
1:01: I love that small look of regret on Nolan’s face when Cecil tells him he knows there was a good reason to why Omni-Man killed the Guardians. You can kinda tell that Nolan didn’t really want to kill them, but because of his loyalty to Viltrum, he probably felt obligated to eliminate them as part of his mission.
It’s heartbreaking to see that Nolan somewhat regrets what he’s done, but he probably knows he must complete his mission for Viltrum and that it’s too late to turn back now.
I like how the evil looking guys are actually the good guys in this series,like Cecil and Allen.And Nolan who is basically superman is the bad guy
Don't forget the demon detective
Cecil is more of a grey area anti hero at times he's not evil but he'll crack a few eggs to make an omelette if you know what i mean.
Cecil is sort of Nick Fury meets Amanda Waller, somewhere in between.
>he doesnt know
No i don't think he's an anti hero. Sure he can do some fcked up things,but he does it to save the world. Id consider him a antihero if he was doing this for some personal goal .As far as Im concerned,he's a pretty selfless guy, who sure he's kinda of a cold mf at times,but he's still a hero@@ebonkinght
what was your powers again?
i'm rich. to be precise tax payers money.
-some guy names Cecil.
- batman
Cecil is now my favorite character.
I really want to see Cecil vs Nick Fury now.
nick fury stomps
hes not just the head of shield, he can also rival captain america by fighting skill
Tie cause there both good and they have similar skill sets and they both got balls of steel
@@tylerm7035 nick fury is far more skilled tho
@@gsomslayer just my opinion lol
@@tylerm7035 sure but nick actually is far more skilled in hand to hand. thats not an opinion thats a fact
Omni man seems like a good and bad guy. Good character development and acting. Looking forward to knowing why he killed them. Please no one spoil it for us, comic readers. will just wait and see. Cecil is awesome btw
Non-comic reader here. I think his reasons are pretty clear.
"Earth isn't yours to rule"
"We have a responsibility, as Viltrumites."
"Mark don't waste your time on the low human issues"
I feel like it's pretty obvious why Omni does the things he does. I may be wrong, but I don't see how.
Unlike the comic the show has given a few obvious hints for you to figure out his reason. He'll explain the more obvious one in the next episode, but there's an even more secret reason behind what he's doing that wouldn't be said until season 2 (or season 3, depends on how they do it). What's cool about it is that they even hinted some of that with his dialogues and reactions. Just ask yourself, why didn't he kill the Guardians until now if he's been on Earth for 20 years?
@Master Derin I assume, given that he seemed to have positive interactions with them and his conversation with Cecil, that he liked them.
They were his friends for years. It's just that his mission came first, and when he couldn't put it off anymore he had to do it.
@Master Derin I don't, really. He came to care for them and his family. Maybe so much so that he put thoughts of domination out of his mind.
But when he couldn't post-pone it any longer, when the Viltrumites were on their way, he had to make sure they were out of the picture.
That's all I think it is
@Ronit Banerjea wait then why the fuck would you spoil it, we were just discussing it.
the second hardest hit nolan took all season... cecil is fantastic
“stay out of this, Cecil” *immediately goes to kill him*
I cannot stress enough how amazing as a performer is Walton Goggins, he is probably the reason I enjoyed the first season!!?
Can’t kill someone who can be anywhere lol
Love it when cecil brings up the reason why he did it. Only to have omni man look away almost in regret. like he knew what he did wrong. But just couldn't admit it due to his loyalty.
Something about those little moments of Cecil catching his breath after evading Nolan's attacks as well as how self-aware he is of his own actions makes him one of the best characters in the show version of the story
With the announcement of Season 2, this scene popped back up in my recommended section and I gotta say this: I don't think Cecil's actor, Walton Goggins, gets enough credit for how convincing his acting was for Cecil. Checking BehindtheVoiceActors, he's had maybe three roles including Cecil, but he fucking nails the tone. He's absolutely no nonsense, no bullshit, but at the same time there's moments where Cecil lets his emotional guard down and you can hear it in his voice. The way he retorts "They were your friends! And so was I!", that's not JUST him stalling Nolan, there's genuine anger and hurt in his voice.
Cecil was so perfectly cast and it's an incredible shame that Goggins hasn't had many more VA roles. And I can't wait to hear more of him in Season 2 (Apparently along with Josh Keaton, which is fucking rad, he played Hal Jordan in Green Lantern: The Animated Series and I desperately hope he gets to play someone that sounds similar to Hal as well).
When is season 2 coming
Thank you
@@jose7391 November 3rd. But they released a special on Atom Eve’s origins so you can check that out in the meantime!
When he says "they were weak", I'm so heartbroken.
I like to think everything goes black when he teleports. So in that microsecond in the darkness, Cecil's mind wonders if the lights are coming back on becuz he teleported, or its staying off becuz he's dead.
I like how Cecil delivers his lone about buying time
The person controlling the teleporter has GOT TO BE THE GOD AT QUICK TIME EVENTS.
Cecil is braver than me god knows I’d be half way across the Galaxy if I knew what was coming or knowing what Omniman is fully capable of
Jameson : Omni men is a menace
Omni men: what did u say
Jameson : I meant Spider-Man
Jameson look like omniman
Man i love how the serie is adding this super cool moments
When I first watched Invincible I assumed Cecil had a superpower that allowed him to teleport.
U always assuming things and always wrong .
yeah
@@yopapi3740 dude woke up that day and decided to murder someone using words 😂
@@johnprice4847😂😂
@@johnprice4847wrong side of the couch for real
A reminder that there’s a third guy that manually operates the GDA teleporter.
Cecil is a good enough leader that he can easily put his life in the hands of his own men.
I love Cecil, he's basically what would happen if Amanda Waller was 100% right about the Justice League. (The JL cartoon version). Imagine if those two teamed up?
Waller had plans to take out Superman, problem is Omni-man doesn't have a kryptonite*.
@@logicplague2077if I remember correctly there is a certain viral load that may beg to differ
@@enderbirds3814 Yeah, that and another thing, didn't wanna spoil it.
Cecil is a cool Black Ops guy Amanda Waller is a sociopath. He'd be a better team up with Nick Fury.
@@logicplague2077Mark has left the chat...
Cecil's interrogations came closer to mortally wounding Omni-Man than anyone else did so far
1 to get there.
Another to dodge throat grab.
A third to avoid getting tackled.
A fourth to play dodge ball.
A fifth just for fun I suppose?
A sixth to avoid a small hurricane with a chance for earthquake.
And a last one to tap out.
So Cecil teleported 7 times, costing tax payers $35 million.
Easily the greatest example of a Badass Normal in any work of fiction I’ve ever seen. Yes, even more than Batman. Let the flame wars commence.
This is what we need more in not just comics but anime too. Side characters or not as powerful characters not being afraid to call out bs on more powerful characters, stepping in to help regardless of any disadvantages, and not just dickriding the main character to a painful extent.
I respect Cecil a lot because what he does he does for the actual goodness and safety of the world, he may work with villains and do sorta immoral things but it’s ultimately for a better world, nick fury is if you put a Cecil in an ideal world where the heroes are really heroes and where the villains are just villains, and Amanda Waller really is if you take a Cecil and corrupt him entirely and take away his care for the safety of others, Cecil looked into the abyss and came out a stronger man for it
im so glad i started reading the comics, i understand so much more between Nolan and Cecil, wow this showed changed a lot, it tells the story in a much better imo but it helps to have context on both their backstories
Bruh that last teleport, Cecil already teleported before Nolan even started moving and yet was still able to, at the very least, make contact with his clothes and even grab his tie.
Cecil likely foreshadowed his death in this episode, though we don't know when that scene happens, unless if the writers decide to not kill him off at all when the series ends
There’s No Way You Can Kill Cecil That Easy, Nolan!
1:15 Omni-Man: Keep my wife's name out your f*cking mouth!
“Wanna get it off your chest?”
Nah he just wants your tie off your chest
Cecil has balls bigger than Jupiter
I like how he teleports once just to get to a better rock. 😂
Imagine the dude controlling the teleporter had Virgin Media as their ISP and it lagged for a split second.
That’s the thing about lying; it’s like crime. It doesn’t matter what you did, how long you got away with it, or even when you die with no one knowing. The truth always will come out.
Cecil casually hemorrhaging our economy with each teleport. Willing to bet he would gladly waste tens of millions just to teleport straight to Starbucks,just for his morning cup of java 😂
It's canon that cecil is legit addicted to using that teleport watch, because it saves him the time of walking, and for a guy that sits in a bath of goo for a little while rather than sleeping like a normal person because it gives him so much more time to work with, you know he's gonna have a death grip on that watch