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A game developer for Google Stadia reached out and offered us a Stadia Dev Node! What secrets does it hold inside, how do you develop games for a dedicated cloud service, and what were they possible doing with this Radeon Pro V320 graphics card?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:50 Game Dev
3:22 What's in the Box
5:35 How is it useful
7:00 The Portal
8:45 RIP Stadia
10:20 Business as Usual
12:20 Conclusion - Věda a technologie
These dev kits are so rare, that every youtuber has them at once.
I expect a studio off loaded them all of them at the same time
Ong
@@mon94key probably. Sending it to tech youtubers is much better than just sending them to the landfill and we can look at non standard hardware. The radeon W cards look actually really good. I wish gaming gpu manufacturers did something similar instead of the gamer rgb designs
Sounds like the first minute explained that bit pretty well.
Haha innit, seen at least 3 videos now
One thing that still interests me: Stadia had HDR working on linux, I'd love to see the drivers/software opensourced.
Incorrect, HDR only worked on Chromecasts. Outputting HDR video is MUCH different than displaying it on a screen.
@@TonyMurray and guess what the chromecasts are running on
@@zekiz774 Guess how much non-fullscreen HDR content they show. I've been deep diving on Linux HDR support recently and the code on Chromecast (whether it is Linux or not) will not be relevant to supporting HDR on a Linux Desktop.
@@MustacheMerlin I agree mostly, however, for the use case of game streaming, ie steam play, would be useful. Also a step in the right direction. undoubtedly, stadia engineers will have solved issues at some levels of the HDR stack.
@@TonyMurray I would love to be able to run 1 app full screen in HDR. I don’t think that the stadia code could even do that, but it a piece of the puzzle.
I'm a game developer and this video was really accurate on the process of making games! As well as being super fascinating as I haven't dealt with anything Stadia related but it sounds like a nightmare to use...
Destiny 2 developers said that Stadia was their favourite platform to develop games on, but they did not have local test device, they connected directly with Stadia servers and tested on cloud.
@@FightClass3 It was their favorite platform because the ease of testing from just about anywhere new builds.
I'm sad this is dead. With health issues, I spend a lot of time in hospitals and doctors' offices. Stadia got me through a lot of long nights in the hospital. Even on public hospital wifi, it always ran great and I played a ton of Destiny, Doom, and Dirt. It just worked so well. Also, I can't afford a Steam Deck so $10 a month was awesome. I'm going to miss Stadia.
Get well. ⛄
Hope you're well.
Me too. I personally loved the service
If u manage to save up a bit: Steam Deck is Well worth it.
@@lennartweber2228 it's definitely on my list.
Man, this looks like such promising technology! Can't wait to see what Google does with it for many years to come.
Right? There’s no way this kind of technology could ever fail, especially not because google never promoted it properly or anything! Everybody is just going to see one, maybe two ads ever for it and instantly be sold on the product!
Gonna sit on a shelf until the end times. Right next to google glass. Shame google was so fucking stupid. The most likely to be able to succeed due to sheer amount of existing infrastructure, and they squander it by making it so you have to already own the games. Mind you, I don't think there's much of a future for cloud gaming at this point. It'll end up in history as an in between moment, like HD CRTs. We're already seeing companies invest money into putting power into a portable format, like the steam deck. Companies like logitech and razer seem keen to follow that idea (also set by Aya and ultimately switch), but they are getting it wrong. No one wants to pay hundreds of dollars for a replacement for their android phone when, for the same price, you can get an android phone that can do the same thing. Eventually, though, other companies will jump into this space and one of them will realize that people want portable PCs, not portable phone gaming systems. Valve has even paved the way by allowing literally anyone to use steam OS free. You could go make your own home made portable hackjob and put steam OS, instantly giving it a free OS with maximum compatibility. I wouldn't be surprised to see google step into this space.
Cloud gaming is cool in theory. Hell, I use my steam deck while at home to play games on my pc but from elsewhere. It's light on the battery. But in the long run, it's just not here yet. The stability over the internet isn't really there.
@@_Livid_ And it's definitely not the kind of hardware that I got for free in late 2020 by signing up for the free trial of its premium service, only to cancel it the day the hardware arrived and then flip it for $50 to some poor bastard on eBay. I would only do that to a product that was terminally ill at launch. But this thing? This thing has promise.
@@TurtleSauceGaming the reason a lot of solutions use ARM SoC's is because x86_64 devices are bulky. They require a lot of power, they produce a lot of heat, and they don't have a proper standby mode. All this makes them unideal for portable devices. Qualcomm has amped up arm SoC's like the SQ3, but companies aren't really using them. So far really only in VR.
didn't say anything, move on
LTT should have a tech museum. You have so many passionate employees who have experience with past tech and likely have old tech laying around. Gaming, computers, niche products, etc. it seems like a business/project that could be successful.
Featuring a wall of phones made of a nokia mobile phones serving as bricks.
There's another word for that concept: Hoarding.
They don't even need that, they just need Bryan the Electrician to give the team his garage xD
@@escapedcops08 the britsh museum are masters of hoarding then?
@@runforestrunfpv4354 yes.
For some reason, this brings me back to the days when I was developing Sinclair Spectrum games downloaded from a Tatung Eintstein (another Zilog Z80 machine), which was a just a wooden box because it was the 14th prototype to be made.
The Stadia Controller is actually one of my favorite controllers. Here's hoping they do the good thing and let us use it as a regular Bluetooth controller! I have 4 of them that I'd love to keep using.
You happy now?
They did the thing!! So happy!
Steve from GN: How stupid is it that the front IO board doesn't use wires?
Linus: Front IO with no wires? Awesome!
One of them is objectively wrong and it's not the guy who looks like he has a job.
@@AlexusMaximusDE making both insult about someone look and talking "objective" things without stating reason, are you speedrunning youttube in "toxic comment" category?
@@AlexusMaximusDE So basically what you're saying is that dudes with long hair looks like bums? Reasonable.
@@AlexusMaximusDE is it bad that i dont know which one you're referring to?
The (Front) IO as part of the board makes the motherboard very hard to replace. This is why he calls it stupid. You can't move the PCs guts if you ever want to upgrade it to a standard case size and it also make it impossible to replace the motherboard with a standard size one as they also tend to use proprietary PSU connectors and non standard PSU units so repairability becomes a nightmare just a scant 2 years after release. Lenovo is probably not as bad with parts support longer term than HP and Acer in this regard but they definitely don't keep around enough spares for every non standard part they use so it becomes very scarce and EXPENSIVE despite the parts themselves not being high performance.
This might not pose much of a problem for wealthy users but businesses tend to want to keep production hardware around longer than that since changing hardware without long term validation tends to break compatibility with the other stuff they use on their workflows.
Thank you for mentioning the controller. I'm praying they issue a firmware update so it doesn't just turn into ewaste.
I really appreciate this call out for sure, it's so frustrating, especially because they mentioned they'd update the controller with that feature on it's specs.
Well it still works with cable and have always had.
@@EnzoBergstrom within Steam, yes, but outside of Steam Not perfectly. I've Had multiple Games that Had issues with the stadia controller
Saaaame
@@Sheepy007 have you tried it with xoutput?
I can't say anything bad about Stadia really. I was a founder, have great internet, and enjoyed my experiences with it. Sad that it never really caught on or saw its full potential. Crazy, but amazing, that they're providing full refunds (HW + Games) and are super consumer friendly as to the closure. I've already received my refunds on everything, and now have free controllers and Chromecasts to boot. Love it or hate it, they really didn't burn anyone in the end - just a no harm no foul experiment.
Ya, despite all the memes, I loved stadia. It worked extremely well and no one else came close to it functionally and in terms of user friendliness. Happy to have my refunds but I wish it had kept going.
Advertisements could have been a bit more subtle. An ad that opened and just screamed "STADIA" at me was honestly a massive turnoff.
@@ceritops I played cyberpunk back when that came out on stadia. It was bug-free compared to the console versions and didn't force me, as a high school student without an income and during covid, to get an xbox or playstation. only $60, and that included the controller and a chromecast too.
As fast as I've seen, it ran well and was generally a smooth user experience. My only real gripe (besides Google's love of killing products) was that you were forced to buy your games again or accept your library is locked to Stadia forever, whereas GeForce Now would let you play most of your Steam library no extra cost required (assuming they bothered to include the game you wanted). That made it a big no go for me but I can see how people without existing libraries wouldn't mind.
Good that they properly refunded purchases, that was a decent move by tech corpo standards even if they seem intent on denying the controllers any Bluetooth usage
They harmed devs
Thank you for all the text that was cut into this video, it keeps my head sane.
I honestly feel so bad for all the developers and engineers working on some of Google's projects. All that passion and love to create something, just for it to get chopped 3 years later.
Still a longer runtime than most Netflix and Amazon series.
I wouldn't trust in Google when I am going to invest my ressources.
Google is a terrible business partner
I mean they are getting paid really well, I wouldnt cry that much
google only pays devs for the duration that they work on the project, so they can afford to drop stuff whenever since they're only paying maintenance at that point
I’m pretty sure most of us expected Stadia to go under, but it still feels weird. Maybe it happened too soon relative to what’s now current-gen.
Yeah like it didn't die super fast either, it just hung around for a weird amount of time
I expected it to happen a lot sooner than it did honestly which made everyone’s outrage even more confusing. There was never a market for the thing.
I figured it was going to die the second it came out but lasted longer than I thought it was. It just kind of felt like the equivalent of Google's attempt at getting into social media with google+ to me
Has google ever successfully made anything except google search/maps? they bought youtube and android.
It's honestly sad because as someone who use Stadia it was very good service, worked very well. Their technology (despite the memes) was really cutting edge in comparison to other streaming services and it felt good to launch a triple A title from my shitty notebook with a decent quality and no noticeable latency.
i love that i only discovered these dev kits videos all at once
Dude! I didn’t know Stadia had started refunding yet. Those refunds just hit my account this week and helped save me from the loss of a client shorting me for work.
Stadia just saved Christmas!!!! Thanks LTT for the heads up. 👍
I remember a couple years ago there was a deal where you got a stadia controller and a Chromecast and the deal was like 80% off, so the whole combo was like 25 dollars. Didn't really care about the Chromecast but was looking for a controller that wasn't terrible and not 80 dollars. So I bought 4 and still have them to this day using them with emulation and steam games. Fantastic controller for 25 dollars, decent for it's normal price. And PLEASE Google, release the firmware or apply a patch so I can use the Bluetooth capabilities. I don't mind plugging them in but it would be so nice to just use them wherever.
Even before that there was a deal in 2020 for every YT-Premium User to get like 1 month of stadia, a chromecast ultra and a controller for free. Man was i sad that i got my YT-Premium a freaking day to late to apply to that offer.
@@themonlight13 I've been YT Premium user since 2018, but sadly Stadia was never available in my country, so I never got that offer.
The buile quality on the controller was the only thing that felt well done. And it was really, really well done. I've got big hands and that thing fits great and feesl really sturdy.
Too bad their software sucked so bad that it was a chore to get it synched up.
I got the chrome cast and Stadia for free lmao.
It’s always interesting to see dev kits that get into hands like yours.
Well, in their defense, if I ever had my hands on some rare tech, I'd want to send it to Linus Media Group because I know they'd do the best job documenting it for all to see.
I would probably break it then put it on eBay
I’m a technician for a certain company with popular tech products and I serviced a guy’s phone who personally worked on the Stadia team. He told me everyone who worked on the team internally knew it wasn’t gonna last about 6 months into working on the project
I think the V320 is a server accelerator. For GPU virtualization specifically.
They did so much work just to abandon it 3 years later. It's still one of the best streaming service. It's very sad to see it abandoned.
Honestly the advertising, the lack of trust and lack of games was its downfall, if they promoted it as a product supported by Google instead of by Google it would've survived longer
Cuz 99% of people don’t have blazing fat internet and want to know it won’t shut down
Being forced to buy games at full price has the downfall other streaming services let you use the the games that you owned and on top of buying games you need to deal with caps
@@Newiee Googles advertising very ironically is very bad. Me and my girlfriend laugh everytime the pixel 7(or whatever version) ad comes on and asks "did you know google makes a phone?".
@@Waitwhat469 the pixel ads are actually good, just stadias adverts were annoying and too frequent
Very interesting video! I never wondered how they would develop those games, but it gives some perspective how this tech is/was working.
As a former Stadia Pro subscriber (I still would be if they hadn't canceled this), I absolutely loved the Stadia experience till the end. Only very very rarely it got laggy and even then I could play it through with some potato resolution, but it was still very much playable.
Oh and that nice customer support is totally true, 6/5 experience for me (even without the refunding all of the purchased games). What I noticed though, is that in this last year there was less and less new AAA or "mainstream" games in the Stadia Store. But what it was worth, I really was enjoying my time (and still do) and it is so sad to see Stadia to be killed.
I'm in the same boat as you, granted I never REALLY got it working on phone, but the PC experience was great. We even got 2 cotrollers and was sharing on the family plan.
Lag was an issue, but I've played full on Destiny 2 battle royal without noticing any lag.
@@dickstarrbuck Yeah, the family plan was great. My kids were able to play my Pro games on any screen in the house whenever they wanted.
Are you planning to login on 18th January 2023 to say goodbye?
My friend was working on the development of a game that was going to be released for Stadia, and I must say, it was not bad. Did not take that long to send our builds and our game is massive. Test today a build for pc, works good, send it to stadia tomorrow and run basic startup checks. That way you reduce the incidence of big crashes that would require rebooting it.
Now what he said is: "Google shut down this crap and did not even announce it to us. We found out that it was cancelled because someone twitted. Not even our Stadia point of contact was aware when our producer called them."
I don't understand why they had to shut it down like this
They could have turned this failure into a Linux release for the game.
Thanks for bringing up the controller. I have 3 of these thanks to the various stadia deals throughout the years. And it does work with a USB cable but it’s picky about which cable to use. These are nice controllers and would love to continue to use them.
Whaaaat that's quite the find Linus! I'm going to miss playing on Stadia, it worked so well for me and I made a lot of friends.
The start clip was so perfectly edited! I hope every LTT video starts like that
Stadia really helped us during the lockdown. It was a great way to have our builds tested by QA without them needing access to any dev hardware. It's definitely isn't the smoothest development experience, but it has just enough benefits during remote work that maintaining a Stadia port was absolutely worth it. I have no idea what sort of income the studio made on the Stadia versions, and whether it would have made financial sense to do this if we were still working from the office, but I would have liked to have access to it for future projects just for the convenience if working remotely. So I'm a little bummed that this option is going away.
congratulations on 6k video uploads
I've been watching this channel for years. I love watching this company grow over time!
12:53 you might be on to something Linus, you got “stay” and then “dia” is Spanish for day, so maybe it was “stay for a day”
LTT should have a tech museum. You have so many passionate employees who have experience with past tech and likely have old tech laying around. Gaming, computers, niche products, etc. it seems like a business/project that could be successful.
Damn that Stadia logo coming off that easy is fitting.
Honestly, the controller is my favorite controller, I hope they do open that up. Still bummed about Stadia, was a great 3 years of gaming
I used Play Music for YEARS, uploading CD rips to it as part of an archive, and even buying music through it because I loved the interface (other than the lack of dark mode). I lost all my original CD rips just before they annouced the closing and I didn't have any access to full quality, just MP3 versions... I switched to Bandcamp for buying new music since and keep everything locally stored from now on (other than backups)
You can still upload to CZcams Music without issues
8:26 considering I have my xbox on the energy saving power mode, I pretty much power cycle the thing every time I use it so it happens fairly often. Last time I played it was two days ago so that was the last time it was power cycled!
+1 for the Stadia controller update/unlock 🙏
its gonna be hard for a small indie company like google to just put out an update like that after shutting down the service abruptly
It's fascinating how much control companies exert on these Dev kits even once they shut down the service. Also, did anyone else notice this video seemed more shaky then usual? I was staring at the background for some reason and was captivated by the door frame moving up and down.
I love Stadia. As a gamer whose let his interest lapse and cant really financially keep up with hardware, it was a godsend. If you're used to consoles it was flawless with a decent internet connection. It let me play games I was super interested in that I couldnt have without it.
Short of shutting down, I think Google has handled this super well. Ive gotten almost every dollar Ive spent on the service refunded, which is awesome. Looking for an alternative, I went to GeForce Now, and it just made me miss Stadia even more.
I like Luna, for them price it's not bad but you also have the option for the uni soft store upgrade etc. But I got to Xbox live for game streaming.
Of course my favorite genre of thumbnail... Linus holding something he isn't supposed to have.
"holding" ... yeah
If you really want to get that graphics card working, since it is an AMD card, I would heavily recommend that you try Linux because Linux has all the amd drivers baked into the Linux kernel. And if you do something like lspci, you can tell what Linux registers it as and you can figure out how much system resources are actually on the card using Linux however you cannot do so in Windows because no drivers exist. Not to mention if the stadium controllers show up over Bluetooth in the first place Linux can connect to it.
just wanna say I appreciate you blurring not only the board but even small parts like the RAM -- anyone who never worked with system building or PC parts would be surprised what gets logged into inventory
Props to Anthony for getting the pronunciation of Oregon right! I live a short distance from hillsboro
I love my Stadia controller, I’m kinda glad to have one as a souvenir of this weird little chapter in gaming history lol. Hopefully they make it more PC compatible!!
@@JohnSmith-xq1pz no, only wired works. And even then it’s not XInput (or something), so it doesn’t work with a lot of games (luckily Steam supports it so that works easily)
I hope so too. I also love my Stadia controller.
I have 4...I would also like to continue using them & plugging 4 in via wire ain't pretty!
@@TheOMGPudding theres a thing called x output that lets u use non xinput controllers as xinput
@@JohnSmith-xq1pz Type a too type c works exactly as well. No need to have pc type c.
Google Play Music's music discovery algorithms were leagues ahead of what Spotify has to offer today imho. Unfortunately it meant that often it gave me suggestions for music from small independent creators and not big studios so I can see why no one is trying to create anything like that again
I appreciate that message at the end to Google to update the controller to prevent the ewaste
lol ok I love that advert at the end "the wittle fwash light" haha. it's honestly the only time & reason I'd watch and in-vid advert all the way through, cus of some funny mini-skit 😂🤣
Gamers nexus bought a stadia dev kit from japan off ebay, they just installed Windows on it, the gpu accepts vega 56 drivers. They also do a complete tear down. Interesting video that focuses more on the hardware
I love how Linus has the Bandaid on his thumb from when he cut it in the lasts video. Such amazing attention to detail and great lore for those of us who watch every episode.
Are you trying to say that Linus cutting his thumb was just acting and special effects?
"Attention to detail" he didn't have the bandaid on to preserve the LTT canon or whatever, lmfao, the cut probably hadn't fully healed between recordings.
@@enderduck4253 my god the joke went right over your head
Wooow,, when did google announce this?? Thanks for the video y’all; yknow I have to give a shout-out to a slightly smaller but very awesome channel, Rerez ! I hope they make a follow-up video on the two great ones they made about all the problems Stadia has had .
Thanks y’all!
Steve from Gamers Nexus: "I'm 4 parallel univereses ahead of you"
Please. Let's have Anthony do a psvita dev kit. The legend covering the legend
13:57 - yes, please make the controller useable stand-alone!
I basically used Stadia to get a free Chromecast when they were offloading those alongside the controllers for free to CZcams Premium subscribers. Played a bit on it, liked Gylt, but just dropped it. The controller is decent, I hope it gets Bluetooth support! It'd be nice to use on my PC or with my 8bitdo adapter on Switch, given that my DS4 is dying.
I got it free the same way.
Same!
I am so glad you did this. Google sent me a free Stadia controller and a membership. I travel a lot so it was nice, ended up playing a bunch of DOOM on hotel Wi-Fi. To be honest, I am sad to see it go, though I understand why; it didn't take off. I was always curious how it worked though. Only 2 minutes in but I am happy I will learn today! Thanks LTT!
I would love looking at a disk image of one of these. As a Linux enthusiast, it would be really interesting.
The fact that it boots right up to a Stadia logo means the BIOS should be dumped too for RE-ing. (Assuming that wasn't just an EFI splash screen.)
The dev nodes are running Windows 10 (source : Gamers Nexus) so the logo on startup is just the same as any other UEFI logo.
@@tzuyd Apparently according to the Dev node manual they should run a Debian derrivative.
@@Adam-bf9zz makes sense. Why would Google want to pay for a bunch of extra Windows licenses? 😀
@@fitybux4664 And also why get a dev kit that doesn't run a software that resembles to the production one.
The no cables approach is enviable. Can only wish something of the like would standardize its way into the industry. A far fetched hope, like finding a needle in a haystack, but one can wish.
Linus works his ass off, it seems like every other day a high quality video is uploaded...
I can only think of all the work needed to make this happen, Find and write a story, set up graphics and studio, go through multiple takes, coordinate staff,edit video.
I'm not saying he does all that work but he at least does half of that....I wish I had a drive like he does!
Well that’s ok Steve will get the lawsuit first haha
This must have been filmed right after the treasure pc since Linus is still wounded from that pc.
2:48 Is that a reference to the steam controller update for Dota? Where Valve somehow managed to introduce a super inconvenient player skill requirement on muting/reporting people.
Linus still has the bandaid on his finger. I appreciate the dedication to continuity and plot hole removal.
Such a unique video. I definitely didn’t see a better one on this yesterday.
That break up really shows the "Googleyness" that all employees at Google were trained to behave 😂
As an IT worker, it really sounds as if Stadia wasn't meant to be shutdown.
I mean, WHO would approve inviting a business partner a day before the cancellation anouncement?
Really looks like the higher-up decided to shutdown Stadia in an hurry, probably to save some personal privilege like a bonus on no-loses on a budget or something.
casual tree drop at 8:14
Since hardware wise it's just an x86 server, I wonder if Google has any locks in the BIOS that would prevent you from just plugging in a USB stick and installing your own OS on it for benchmarking. Could be an interesting video.
Alternatively booting up a live Linux ISO and reverse engineering it from the filesystem could also be fun.
All that assumes that it can USB boot at all
they have got to get bluetooth control available on the controller it looks so good
It's amazing to hold and the vibration is really good, incredibly responsive too (to compensate for any streaming lag.) I have 4 and I hope they get that bluetooth opened up at some point!
One interesting thing about Stadia is that a lot of games were built on Vulkan for it while some games that also shipped on Steam were using DirectX instead like Cyberpunk
yeah that was wild to me that games spent the money to be vulkan and then just also spent the money to keep the directx work
@@Waitwhat469 Indeed, that doesn't make any sense. It would have been better to do only Vulkan
@@RemziCavdar Might make sense if they're porting it to the Xbox as well. That uses DirectX and a Windows-like OS. They probably figured they might as well reuse their Xbox code for the Windows version.
Nice to play some staff playing DOTA @2:51
That Lenovo case looks pretty slick, by the way.
(Sort of a Mac Pro vibe with the panel opening.
....you know which one I mean)
steve always gets these devkit vids out first lmao
I like Steve and I enjoyed he looked more at the hardware but boy was he sure nitpicky and missed the point of server repairibility.
Also Steve didn't cover stadias general impracticality for development without one of these nodes, or how what came in the kit compared to what actually runs in Google's servers.
I was curious about this and knew there had to be some type of proprietary development system for something like this. Noice!
Finally! An interesting and hilarious project. +Brownie Points in my book Linus. (As a big Google fan)
YES please open that firmware! It would be cool to do something with what is otherwise good hardware
I've been collecting odd input devices for over a decade now, and my collection is starting to read like a great tech idea graveyard. I have a Stadia controller, two Steam controllers (along with two Steam Links), and a Space Navigator... Still need to get my hands on a Novint Falcon though.
you got an Ouya in there somewhere?
The Novint Falcon has to have been one of the strangest input devices out there, and that's saying a lot. I actually have and regularly use a Steam Link. I use it stream my 3rd floor gaming PC to my basement rec room. Not so much for gaming, although it's great for it (if you can live with 1080p) but for video streaming and desktop use.
@@daniegamin Yes, absolutely. Special edition in the darker color, with 2 controllers 👍
0:32 omg that's hilarious xD
1:32 hey Hillsboro, Oregon, thats my home town
I love the color matching on different parts of the video. The ᎪᎬⲊᎢᏂᎬᎢᏆᏟ is complete.
So sad that we won't get any more Stadia controllers. It was my favorite and I was hopeful that we'd get an elite controller version
The one thing I really want is a bit of reverse engineering on the controller because even the wifi connection was pretty good and felt pretty decent playing on a TV, I mean I ended up getting a stadia kit for free for some reason and honestly I thought the experience was decent but not really better than GeForce now but.... Yeah oh well
I love the controller and it's been hard going back to an Xbox Series controller... hopefully they open it up soon!
I used stadia since launch and was gutted to see it go. It just worked for me and made so much sense. I was gutted that after Sekiro it never got Elden Ring. Based on playing Elden Ring on the PS4 and the load times I bet loads of people would have given it a shot on Stadia if it had the equivalent PS5 load times
Load times were one of the best parts of Stadia, especially how quickly it connected to Destiny!
There are ton of these around, I'm a FedEX driver and one of my pickups has them everywhere just lying around to be recycled.
I'd be so happy if they addressed the controller thing. I got a free Stadia kit as a gift for being a YT-Premium subscriber, and I would hate to relegate such a good controller to e-waste. I am using it wired now, while mapping it into an XBox One controller using either XOutput (free, open-source, but the Triggers are recognized as buttons rather than analog, and some games just ignores the mapping for some reason) or reWASD (costs money, not open source, but as far as I can tell, flawless mapping). Having it working wirelessly will be amazing, though.
I actually liked Stadia. Played and bought a few games. Pretty nice experience.
But it is more syperior experience if you spend a few hundred to get a worthwhile device
I did actually work for a game that was supposed to come to stadia, this was our daily development process:
Devs: "Has google got back to us with any of the stuff we need to do Stadia development?"
Prod: "Nope, radio silence"
Devs: "Ok, I hope they don't come crying when it's release o'clock"
It was actually quite easy to support compared to the other platforms that actually wanted a product.
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Linus: holds network cable near leaked dev kit
His “Friend”: *nervous sweating*
The kill was so smooth no one even knew they were bleeding.
I've definitely seen a lot of anger from a few developers who had been developing Stadia games for early 2023 release which obviously won't be happening.
It's sooooo confidential and rare that Steve from Gamers Nexus has it's own and already posted a video 2 days ago :P
So 2 people?
2:33 Except that you may not need to build locally, and you don't need to transfer everything every time. Any good VCS transfers based on the diff/delta, that is changes that have been made since the last commit (git).
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I bought Doom 2016 on stadia back in Jan or Feb last year, and had such a wonderful experience playing it (at 1080p) on my CCU-enabled 4k TV that I paid for Stadia Pro just to experience that game in 4k. Then earlier this year I bought Doom eternal and had a similar experience. Stadia got a lot of stick, and deservedly so in some cases, but the tech behind it was so fantastic that it's a shame devs had to deal with so much behind the scenes.
i'm honestly astonished at how bad google handled stadia. it could have been really good
Given Google's/Amazon's track record, are you though?
Most google products are made to exist, not succeed. The way google promotes people up the corporate ladder is based on how many projects they've started, not how many succeeded. So there are a bunch of poorly planned projects shoved out the door that are then almost immediately abandoned.
It was a mistake from the start to have to do custom developing and do their own porting of games when they were already streaming the games. Their library could have been so much bigger and involved less development work if they were just running the games for the os/hardware they were already built for and just stream that.
Its time will come later, the concept has good potential
I really have to disagree - cloud gaming has fundamental problems that can't be overcome so easily. The latency hurdles are utterly insurmountable unless you want to put full-on data centers literally everywhere. Not just geographically, but also as far as the network topology is concerned. Not even Google has enough money for that.
These are laws-of-physics type limits, at the end of the day. And ultimately with devices like the Steam Deck there's only so much of a value proposition cloud gaming can offer.
10:09 Ahhh, The dutch polders of Flevoland, representing Emmeloord in a Linus video! :D
I've worked on a AAA game that was ported to Stadia (with 24 years of game dev experience in total)
- Nope, most tests are done on desktop PCs locally for both PC and console dev. Testers usually have Visual Studio installed with the code in it so it is possible to debug on their PCs for hard to repro issues (this is not that common anymore interestingly)
- Nope, most devs don't have devkits at all. In general only render engineers need them and only those who work on the console version. GPPs (Gameplay programmers), Designers, Audio, Art and most of QC&QA don't have them. We develop games on PCs. I started my career on PS1 and Dreamcast and back then we needed more devkits but it is much easier today as current consoles are practically PCs with custom OS
- The stadia build time is not an issue unless you develop games specifically for Stadia and in that case it is still doable
- The 64GB RAM is actually not much. I have 128 in my work PC as AAA games loaded in editor + game mode alone can easily eat 40-50 GB RAM while in development
- Any seasoned developer knew that the business model was DOA and the only thing that kept developers in was the money we got from Google
I think the writing on the wall was there as soon as Google announced Stadia. That’s the Google way, go all in, don’t get the results they wanted, and kill it. However, as a casual gamer, I enjoyed Stadia greatly. I’ve simply moved over to Xbox cloud gaming.
GamersNexus: calling front IO hardware card ridiculous BS. Linus :"I love this front panel IO card"
GN : Complains about industry standard hot swappable Power supplies with no wires. Steve must like wires.
@@Gatorade69 Steve did reply to a comment about that. Hopefully GN gets to take apart a server one day. Maybe even do a video about converting hot swap to wires.
@@DoctorWhom Yeah I like Steve and he can be nitpicky which can be both a good and bad thing. He obviously has a consumer mindset, which I do too but I think power supplies like that are awesome. Just swap them out, no wires. I hate wires.
1:52 "version controlled with Perforce (P4)." Yes! Thank you for restoring my faith that not everyone has jumped on the GIt bandwagon.
Oh boy I'm anxious to what this new technology will bring in a few years!!
Respect to Stadia they are very brave
im sad that they shut down but it was bound to happen, my father loved the service and now he is stuck with steam deck..which is not a bad thing actually. kudos to google for refunding me tho