Zero to 300kmh/186mph whit a consist of duplex TGV. We leaving the "Le creusot TGV" station in way to Paris, note the terrific grade, nightmare of all enginer during cold weather run !
For a lot of my life, I have looked up to and respected the TGV trains with amazement. Having travelled on them twice from Paris to Nice, I am an enormous fan.
Thank you for those magnifique moments when you bring to us this beautyfull view! Thank God that French ENGINEERS exist and for this super technical performance! Vive la France! We are with you, our brothers!
That's an older type of transmission. Newer transmission methods like TD or WN started in Japan as early as in the early 1970s and that's why the first Japanese HSR in 1964 already came with quiet sound. Nowadays it's really the motors that make the sound (variable AC motors known as VVVF) in newer generation HSRs.
i'm 15 years now, and i wanna be a train driver since i'm 3. my biggest dream is to drive the TGV or AGV, so i hope this is what i'm gonna see when i'm grown up. thanks for the video :)
Thank you Triplegage, easy ! the wheels of the train stall and slip on steep slopes during autumn and winter. it's due to high rain and dead leaf in autumn and ice and cold temperature in winter !
Your welcome Charonview, There some signal (blue panel whit yellow arrow) used for materialized a canton from another one, only used if the cab signal fail, whit restrictive speed. :)
I'd be useless as a train driver. I find the track with the rhythm of the poles and the noise strangely mesmerizing and calming - I'd risk either going into a trance or falling asleep! Are drivers tested for this during training?
All drivers go through a long process, it all starts with a psychic test to see if the driver is eligible to drive a train. During training, they have mentors with them to see if they drive the train properly. I don't think any unwanted drivers make it to the end :)
Just when you trhink it can't go any faster, it speeds up even more ! Incredible wind up. Did the railway have to build a special fence either side of the track to prevent animals wandering onto it ? Hitting a cow or deer at this speed would be catastrophoc.
Thanks Kibidk, It's funny the loud noise don't really come from the engines but from the trypod transsmission from the engines suspended by the noise to the axle ! that's why in the asynchronous engines the noise is quiet ! the asynchronous TGV has the DASYE rems or the POS one don't have trypod inside . For the question, there a 3,5% grade not far from Paris, at 300 kmh, we lost 15 to 20 kmh going up, down the grade you can easily win some speed ! especialy whit the powerfull DASYE !
@ejvideos07 No special fences, but there some place where the fences is more higher.All high speed lines have fences here, it's for prevent from intrusion is the Railway space, animals or not ! Yes, the most common animals hit on this lines are roe and boars, at this high speed, nose and fender exploded. (there are built with high fiber glass components).
Althought some types of the TGV can run much faster than 320 km/h, they are not designed to do so. The record speed train was a special version with only four carriages and the line voltage was rised from the ordinary of 25 kV to 31,5 kV. Keep in mind, that te oldest lines are built in the 70s, and most likely can´t support any higher speeds. Futher, at higher speeds than around 350 km/h, there are some sort of problem with the connection to the overhead wire.
@ChrisRx83 Thank you, not really the beep is the speed on the cab signal changing Maybe you know, there no classic signal on high speed lines, the cab signal onboard tell you the speed to reach, this can change everytimes on the trip !
Wow! thats awesome! I wish North America would have trains like this! I would guess at speeds like this the computer would have to be doing most of the work,no human eye could see far enough or be quick enough to react in the event of an emergency.
Et je retrouve avec joie le "décollage" du Creusot, avec son profil de ligne si particulier, et surtout cette rampe qui semble tester l'endurance de la machine. En effet par temps de pluie ce doit être rude. Est il déjà arrivé qu'un TGV ne puisse la gravir ? En tous cas j'apprécie toujours autant le chant de ces bestioles bleues, aux harmoniques diverses et sifflements surnaturels. Celle ci a une voix rauque qui fait vibrer tout le chassis mdr . A t'elle pris froid ?
i rode the tgv from lille to marseille from northern France to the mediteranian sea in 4.5 hours in 2007 sure beats the train system here in Canada at one time you could go just about anywhere in Canada by train now there is just about nothing left
@xplaur Not exactly, the train can't be driving by a computer, but you have a cruise system, you put the speed what you want and the train accelerate or brakes for keep the speed, like the same you can find on modern car (automobile).
Actually the system carries 25kV AC, as only ACs can be pushed up to such voltages. And superb high power propulsion machinery almost run on AC for sure.
@xplaur De rien, excepted the old TGV, all the TGV have the SIAC ( Systeme informatique d'aide à la conduite ) help driving management system, who is helping for brakes test and every anomaly in the rems, if i good remember thos 060ED have a GM engines inside ?And... I'm not really an enginer, certainly in fews years when i got upgrade in my job :)
It is possible! You may even be working with "maglevs" as well. Trains in general are making great strides in technology. Even here in the U.S., there is talk of building another high speed train to go from New York City to Chicago. Yes, you will have many opportunities and new option to explore by then. Keep your studies up and good luck to you!!
17 Mega Watts !!!!!!!!! Mon Dieu !!! The line should be at 25 kV dc, so the train sucks 680 Amperes.... I'd die to see the project of the motors and of the speed regulator. It have to be amazing.
@howardkevinm Ok, GE GPS location 46°46'4.29"N 4°29'58.78"E station Le Creusot TGV, go north using the used the rule in GE to measure the distance, you need to look at the end of the video witch place the train finish than you measure, any question ?
Yes, dashloc, he meant 300 km/h, of course! I' ve lived in the U.S.A. for almost 25 years, I am from Brittany (Bretagne)originally, born in Brest in the Finistere. The United States would greatly benefit from a TRUE high-speed train like the magnificent TGV, because the distances are so huge. We do have the 'Acela' between Washington, DC, New-York and Boston that reaches a top speed of 135mph to NY and 150mph for a few miles in New-England, on tracks that twist and turn all the way...
The real reasons we have not done so is because we (as a nation) hate/loathe/despise infrastructure maintenance. HSR is maintenance-intensive - merely the NEC - our one longer-distance electrified line - proves that. It's been documented how much of a bear maintaining it is - yet Congress has continually shorted AMTRAK on funding for the job; worse, communities along the route get severe NIMBYitis over upgrades to it! (Look at the issues AMTRAK has faced merely in New York State (not New York City), let alone north of New London, CT.) Has anybody documented the issues the European railroads face on the maintenance end - merely in terms of caternaries? JER/JRW has - yet has anybody taking a look at how much of a PITA that is? I am saying that yes - we need to do the work; but will we - as a nation - actually be willing to do it? (As opposed to being scared out OF doing so - which unfortunately, tends to happen far too often?)
the limiting factor for double stacking in Europe would be overhead wires and also the switch to knuckle couplers over buffer and chain and hook type couplers at least EU could go with the russian SA3 type knuckle coupler and go with 5 ft track guage then one could have the trans Siberian railway go all the way to Paris from Vladivostok Russia
Yahy i had never count the time between O to 300 km. On the LGV med high speed line, when you leave from Avignon TGV going to Aix en Provence TGV, the train start from O kmh to 320 kmh, on flat track it's about 22 km long, Dermitdemziel.
Quinzio here mentionned the overhead line been at 25kv dc well i should correct him the line is at 25kv but ac not dc as far as know these locomotives have a transfomer in them instead of a diesel generator like our locomotives here in canada the voltages are stepped down from 25 kv to say a 1000 volts or so and rectified to dc for the traction motors on older locomotives now on newer generation units they have ac traction motors probebly fed by variable frequency drives
135 mph on classic tracks ? it's a nice speed ! Yes i like the acela, i found the design of the rems nice, especialy the light position in front of the cab :)
@cajoke Yes, other cab ride, from other channel, (you can write in french: " TGV vue cabine") or you can find 3 others videos about cab ride on my channel on YT :)
Grande video dashloc! Tu son certain ce ne pas voyage par avion? :P Le creusot? La usine pour Alsthom est en cette petite ville, droit? Cet ville est un vache-ville ou une usine-ville?
@suncoolclose Actually the max speed is 200mph here, maybe they will grow up, they work about. Imagine that's higher speed in normal used, the maintenance of the train and the track is really more heavy for the time win on the schedule !
TGV is something between train and flying saucer. What a sound ! Marvellous machine.
I'm thinking, "Jesus! You're well into the red line! Change gears before she blows up!"
one of my favorites---just keeps going faster and faster 'til the end!
For a lot of my life, I have looked up to and respected the TGV trains with amazement. Having travelled on them twice from Paris to Nice, I am an enormous fan.
Thank you for those magnifique moments when you bring to us this beautyfull view! Thank God that French ENGINEERS exist and for this super technical performance!
Vive la France! We are with you, our brothers!
The French trains are so great! Love them everyday!
love the pitch of the motors
The traction motors are AC synchronous motors driven by variable frequency drivers. They're like large scale brushless motors.
*They have slip rings (not PMSMs). The newer asynchronous motors in the TGV 2N2 are brushless
This is one of my favorites--thank you for posting it!
This is a truly fantastic video. One really feels the long extreme hill and the vast power and exceleration
Thank you Topjaizkibel, nothing better than the song of synchron engines in electric loc !
great cab ride video :)
This is fantastic. It is marvellous seeing the video from the driver's cab. Merci beaucoup.
That's an older type of transmission. Newer transmission methods like TD or WN started in Japan as early as in the early 1970s and that's why the first Japanese HSR in 1964 already came with quiet sound. Nowadays it's really the motors that make the sound (variable AC motors known as VVVF) in newer generation HSRs.
You make wonderful videos. I love this one taken from the driver's cab. wonderful sound. I am an enormous fan of the TGVs.
These are absolutely magnificent trains. I love travelling from Paris to Nice on TGVs.
magnifique !!
i'm 15 years now, and i wanna be a train driver since i'm 3. my biggest dream is to drive the TGV or AGV, so i hope this is what i'm gonna see when i'm grown up.
thanks for the video :)
Thanks, yeap, synchronous electric engines, one of the best buzz !
I love your videos from the driver's cab. You do wonderful train videos.
Thank you :)
You do wonderful videos . I so much appreciate them. I always love TGVs. Very many thanks!
@Paljassus77 Your welcome, i hope your dream be come true ! :)
Thank you Triplegage, easy ! the wheels of the train stall and slip on steep slopes during autumn and winter. it's due to high rain and dead leaf in autumn and ice and cold temperature in winter !
Your welcome Charonview, There some signal (blue panel whit yellow arrow) used for materialized a canton from another one, only used if the cab signal fail, whit restrictive speed. :)
the sound of the engine, looks like a UFO take off. Beautiful!
I'd be useless as a train driver. I find the track with the rhythm of the poles and the noise strangely mesmerizing and calming - I'd risk either going into a trance or falling asleep! Are drivers tested for this during training?
All drivers go through a long process, it all starts with a psychic test to see if the driver is eligible to drive a train. During training, they have mentors with them to see if they drive the train properly. I don't think any unwanted drivers make it to the end :)
Not but i bet some drivers get bored while driving on high speed lines !
dashloc I find high speed lines boring, but look at footage from the single track diesel lines through north Norway! There's my future job! :)
Hey !
It's the wild north there ! :P
Id love Jeremy Clarkson to have a cab ride in a TGV and hear him say POWERRR
thats nuts i love it
Just when you trhink it can't go any faster, it speeds up even more ! Incredible wind up. Did the railway have to build a special fence either side of the track to prevent animals wandering onto it ? Hitting a cow or deer at this speed would be catastrophoc.
Fantastique Dashloc. Superbe video!!
Holy Crap the Power, the Speed!!!
nice
video beautiful country side
Thanks Kibidk, It's funny the loud noise don't really come from the engines but from the trypod transsmission from the engines suspended by the noise to the axle !
that's why in the asynchronous engines the noise is quiet ! the asynchronous TGV has the DASYE rems or the POS one don't have trypod inside .
For the question, there a 3,5% grade not far from Paris, at 300 kmh, we lost 15 to 20 kmh going up, down the grade you can easily win some speed ! especialy whit the powerfull DASYE !
@ejvideos07 No special fences, but there some place where the fences is more higher.All high speed lines have fences here, it's for prevent from intrusion is the Railway space, animals or not ! Yes, the most common animals hit on this lines are roe and boars, at this high speed, nose and fender exploded. (there are built with high fiber glass components).
Really love that sound of TGV Duplex Engines ;-)
This video ended too soon. I couldn't get enough. Are there any other videos like this one? Would love to know.
It's a 3% or 3,5% upgrade, this famous noise in the cab come more from the transmission at full load than the engine himself !
Puhh!! Thanks for the ride!
Hmmm........no grade crossings, no signals (that I saw), 0 to 186 mph - what a railroad!! Thank you much.
wow i can see why theyre the worlds fastest trains
@kevin0070 Yup ! thanks ^^
Supermáquina. Viva la ingeniería.
Saludos desde Medellín, Col
Traction motors sound... Beautiful :)
Althought some types of the TGV can run much faster than 320 km/h, they are not designed to do so. The record speed train was a special version with only four carriages and the line voltage was rised from the ordinary of 25 kV to 31,5 kV. Keep in mind, that te oldest lines are built in the 70s, and most likely can´t support any higher speeds. Futher, at higher speeds than around 350 km/h, there are some sort of problem with the connection to the overhead wire.
excellent vid, wonderfull noise
Gracias, saludos desde Lyon, Francia
Forbidable! Absolutely awesome :D Nice video
Love the sound of the motors. Squirrel cage synchronous motors I suppose. AC or DC mains supply?
They'l be AC motors.
damn they sound just like a jet engine without the screeching and hissing noises
thats cool,makes me wanna go to France a ride it!
@ChrisRx83 Thank you, not really the beep is the speed on the cab signal changing
Maybe you know, there no classic signal on high speed lines, the cab signal onboard tell you the speed to reach, this can change everytimes on the trip !
@Hackerwifi yup ! almost the perfect song :)
Nice Video DashLoc :D i love it ... Great Job 5 *
ver nice great bit of film 5stars
Wow! thats awesome! I wish North America would have trains like this! I would guess at speeds like this the computer would have to be doing most of the work,no human eye could see far enough or be quick enough to react in the event of an emergency.
Et je retrouve avec joie le "décollage" du Creusot, avec son profil de ligne si particulier, et surtout cette rampe qui semble tester l'endurance de la machine. En effet par temps de pluie ce doit être rude. Est il déjà arrivé qu'un TGV ne puisse la gravir ?
En tous cas j'apprécie toujours autant le chant de ces bestioles bleues, aux harmoniques diverses et sifflements surnaturels.
Celle ci a une voix rauque qui fait vibrer tout le chassis mdr . A t'elle pris froid ?
i rode the tgv from lille to marseille from northern France to the mediteranian sea in 4.5 hours in 2007 sure beats the train system here in Canada at one time you could go just about anywhere in Canada by train now there is just about nothing left
@xplaur Not exactly, the train can't be driving by a computer, but you have a cruise system, you put the speed what you want and the train accelerate or brakes for keep the speed, like the same you can find on modern car (automobile).
Actually the system carries 25kV AC, as only ACs can be pushed up to such voltages. And superb high power propulsion machinery almost run on AC for sure.
@xplaur De rien, excepted the old TGV, all the TGV have the SIAC ( Systeme informatique d'aide à la conduite ) help driving management system, who is helping for brakes test and every anomaly in the rems, if i good remember thos 060ED have a GM engines inside ?And... I'm not really an enginer, certainly in fews years when i got upgrade in my job :)
its like flying at ground level!
MR Kim is funny Airplane Clown.
AWESOME!!! what's that beep that can be heard at 1:11? Wheelslip?
Geiler Sound von diesem Motor. Der ist unverkennbar. Den gibts nur im TGV.
Awesome video! 5/5 and favorited!
@OSCALETRAINGUY
I feel the same way, it's great!
From soon to be civil engineer, Kevin from Canada
It is possible! You may even be working with "maglevs" as well. Trains in general are making great strides in technology. Even here in the U.S., there is talk of building another high speed train to go from New York City to Chicago. Yes, you will have many opportunities and new option to explore by then. Keep your studies up and good luck to you!!
Alstom's new AGV holds world speed record of 574.8 km/h/357 mph. The AGV went into service with NTV .Italo in Italy late last year. Awesome.
no its name is tgv v150
Catsmeowproduct Gaming yeah but fitted with the AGV motors and running gear.
That was a TGV Duplex
17 Mega Watts !!!!!!!!!
Mon Dieu !!!
The line should be at 25 kV dc, so the train sucks 680 Amperes....
I'd die to see the project of the motors and of the speed regulator. It have to be amazing.
How much time for 0-100 kmph?
Nice video. I would like to see the cab controls etc.
What happend the sound the tgv in todas in 2022
Your welcome Alighieri1363 :)
Thanks for the kind comment :)
Of course!! I believe you'll do very well indeed!!
Thank you Dekfungton, it's a vache and usine ville ! you can also talking about steel factory !
Your welcome, yes i mean at full power, the 300kmh/186mph were reaches at 6:25.
@EWS60500 Yup, it's the cab signal, a classic on high speed lines :)
Gosh i got to come down one day one question is Euro star as fast as this ??? Im thinking of going down to Lyon
Wow... I will download it!
Thank you, yes i saw, i like the reprofiling wheel :)
what time did the tgv hit full speed? 6:25? I'm guessing that because the cabin noise stopped.
Very cool!
Sounds like a space ship!
@howardkevinm Ok, GE GPS location 46°46'4.29"N 4°29'58.78"E
station Le Creusot TGV, go north using the used the rule in GE to measure the distance, you need to look at the end of the video witch place the train finish than you measure, any question ?
Yes, dashloc, he meant 300 km/h, of course! I' ve lived in the U.S.A. for almost 25 years, I am from Brittany (Bretagne)originally, born in Brest in the Finistere. The United States would greatly benefit from a TRUE high-speed train like the magnificent TGV, because the distances are so huge. We do have the 'Acela' between Washington, DC, New-York and Boston that reaches a top speed of 135mph to NY and 150mph for a few miles in New-England, on tracks that twist and turn all the way...
The real reasons we have not done so is because we (as a nation) hate/loathe/despise infrastructure maintenance. HSR is maintenance-intensive - merely the NEC - our one longer-distance electrified line - proves that. It's been documented how much of a bear maintaining it is - yet Congress has continually shorted AMTRAK on funding for the job; worse, communities along the route get severe NIMBYitis over upgrades to it! (Look at the issues AMTRAK has faced merely in New York State (not New York City), let alone north of New London, CT.) Has anybody documented the issues the European railroads face on the maintenance end - merely in terms of caternaries? JER/JRW has - yet has anybody taking a look at how much of a PITA that is? I am saying that yes - we need to do the work; but will we - as a nation - actually be willing to do it? (As opposed to being scared out OF doing so - which unfortunately, tends to happen far too often?)
Nice sound, thank you!
looks like its going uphill! :)
wow! nice ride for sure...they have flight sim so with this it should be rail sim :)
the limiting factor for double stacking in Europe would be overhead wires and also the switch to knuckle couplers over buffer and chain and hook type couplers at least EU could go with the russian SA3 type knuckle coupler and go with 5 ft track guage then one could have the trans Siberian railway go all the way to Paris from Vladivostok Russia
Yahy i had never count the time between O to 300 km.
On the LGV med high speed line, when you leave from Avignon TGV going to Aix en Provence TGV, the train start from O kmh to 320 kmh, on flat track it's about 22 km long, Dermitdemziel.
@Citeyosh, merci, j'ai "LGV Rhone alpes cab ride" ou il y a des séquences autour de Lyon, rien d'autres de prévue pour le moment.
@12moshpit Eurostar ? max speed 300 kmh ! So yes they run at the same speed on this line ( Lyon/Paris).
Quinzio here mentionned the overhead line been at 25kv dc well i should correct him the line is at 25kv but ac not dc as far as know these locomotives have a transfomer in them instead of a diesel generator like our locomotives here in canada the voltages are stepped down from 25 kv to say a 1000 volts or so and rectified to dc for the traction motors on older locomotives now on newer generation units they have ac traction motors probebly fed by variable frequency drives
135 mph on classic tracks ? it's a nice speed !
Yes i like the acela, i found the design of the rems nice, especialy the light position in front of the cab :)
The traction motors can be heard from inside, but they are drowned by the cooling fans from outside
@cajoke Yes, other cab ride, from other channel, (you can write in french: " TGV vue cabine") or you can find 3 others videos about cab ride on my channel on YT :)
Grande video dashloc! Tu son certain ce ne pas voyage par avion? :P Le creusot? La usine pour Alsthom est en cette petite ville, droit? Cet ville est un vache-ville ou une usine-ville?
@TheHeavyload Your welcome :)
@lolozx56 Yeah i work for the French Railway, SNCF, in one of the 3 TGV workshop in Paris.
The traction motors are drowned by the cooling fans outside hence it’s quiet during departure
Lol you just done for a big aspirin after this !!!
@MrJames27011 I move the TGV in the workshop, it's the " TSEE "( Technicentre Sud Est Européen) Paris East South.
@suncoolclose Actually the max speed is 200mph here, maybe they will grow up, they work about. Imagine that's higher speed in normal used, the maintenance of the train and the track is really more heavy for the time win on the schedule !