Deadly Individualism: Lollipop Chainsaw
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- čas přidán 29. 12. 2018
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Lollipop Chainsaw was ahead of it’s time. Now a days there are whole fandoms about quirky but sexy badass female characters like Harley Quinn, Nui Harime, Juno Enoshima, Perona, Kainé, and Cherri Bomb. Not to mention the story is, as you said, a great deconstruction of gender stereotypes as well as a commentary on toxic musicality. The male protagonist is stripped of his humanity, reduced to an object, and is constantly mocked and ridiculed because of his inability to perform the typical “manly” duty of protecting his girlfriend. The other male characters always judge the heroine’s worth based on her body despite her unique and impressive skills. The main villain is a literal incel who started an entire apocalypse because he felt like he was entitled the pretties girl in school. Even though it was his fault for not confessing his feelings sooner. The sexualization of high schoolers is a big problem in the media (looking at you CW), but the creators were at least smart enough to make Juliet 18. Also, she’s never put in situations where she’s sexually violated by adults. If this game were released now, it would a semi decent fanbase of artists on Tumblr and Twitter who would be obsessed with its sparkly neon style.
Also, I liked the crude dialogue. People need to understand that teenagers are the cringiest individuals on the planet. They constantly do and say the dumbest and most inappropriate stuff imaginable thinking they sound cool and funny. Look no further than TikTok. So if anything, the reason people hated the dialogue was because they hate the way teenagers talk. Which I guess is still understandable.
About the highscjooler sexualization topic, I isn’t juliet a highschooler cheerleader anyways? Or did i miss something haha
Perfect analysis
Written by an actual pedafile
James Gunn used Juliet as inspiration for his version of Harley Quinn. That's why her fight scene had butterflies and flowers and stars mixed with brutal gory violence.
Awesome take on this whole dilemma
The old cringey dialogue and references is what made it so good
The dialog is great in general.
I feel like this game is a perfect reflection of the time it came out. I was 14 at the time, just getting into anime and internet culture when this random rainbow zombie highschool stuff was all over the place. I think this game would have never been possible 5 years earlier or 5 years later, it just fitted perfectly into this crazy time. I personally never played it but it always reminds me of when I was younger and really into this stuff.
It's a really nice time capsule and will hopefully never be forgotten.
If I played this, it would remind me of high school with the way it references people like Justin Bieber and Katy Perry and probably would just make it "that game I don't play when my parents are home 'cause they would think I'm gay/creepy for playing a mindless hack and slash game where a barely-legal highschool girl kills zombies and there's rainbows everywhere" If I had played it when it first came out whereas now I'd play it as "that game where I'd enjoy it 'cause I love what James Gunn did for Guardians of the Galaxy long after it, the banter, fanservice, having ideas different from other games/movies of the time, there's an actual story despite the madness, appreciate the gameplay more for its gameplay being not quite God of War but not quite Bayonetta or DMC or Arkham and not worry so much about what others think of me and my choices in playing it"
Looking at this game, there's no possible way it can be forgotten. It's so unique and zany and I think that's what makes Lollipop Chainsaw so special.
Absolutely adored this thing
The chemistry between Nick and Juliett is just insane, nearly every interaction was a total blast!
"I fucked up. It's yellow."
That line honestly made me lose it. So simple and blunt but weirdly relatable and charming.
“At least it gets me out of my calculus homework on Friday “
I love their chemistry and love the dialog in the game in general.
I love how Koei Tecmo implied they wouldn't take Lollipop Chainsaw at the time but went on to continue developing one of the most infamously sexualized game franchises to exist.
LC's narrative was too female-empowering for them.
Which was?
@@CombatSportsNerd bro they make Dead or Alive
@@Ghenry its good tho
@@tosho_2979 didn’t they make Kengan Asura too? Like, Koei is so fake it’s petty
The only game where killing zombies results in geysers of sparkles flying out of their heads, all the while "Mickey" by Toni Basil plays.
Great video, as always; I loved the game but did still feel like it was a bit shallow (likely the frequency that jokes would fall flat painted that perception). I never realized the genius of Nick being literally objectified, but after hearing it mentioned it all clicked.
Could you do can you beat dead rising 2 without killing zombies?
I met Jimmy Urine backstage at a concert and he's one of the coolest guys I've ever met. I remember being pretty hyped when this game was coming out and seeing that he'd work on the boss themes.
I really REALLY enjoyed all that you said about Juliett in regards to sexism and objectification. I think context is so important and the conversation about sexism in games gets muddled because it includes characters that are just sexy in the same group of characters actually being objectified. I get really tired of women in games that are solely sex objects with no personality, but Juliett is the COMPLETE opposite. I love that twist revealed so early on, totally crushing your expectations. Thank you for pointing out how Nick is turned into a literal object! It all clicked when you said that. Love that something that appears so silly, can actually effectively bring up some interesting thoughts and ideas. Wonderful video, wonderful series. You put so much work into this content and it shows. Thank you.
Also worth noting on the 'objectification' of Juliette, when she wasn't flipping around of her own accord in cutscenes, if you _the player_ tried getting an upskirt shot she would pull her skirt down and mean mug the shit out of you while the game gave you an 'achievement' mocking you for doing it.
Like so many times, people were talking completely out of their asses just trying so desperately to seem like they weren't a [whatever]ist. And it's such a shame because it seems like the intentions are pure and wanting to make better, more varied characters but then they end up causing such a ruckus and will sometimes even go into objectifying female characters themselves.
I remember someone complaining about Bayonetta being problematic and anytime her character was brought up to debunk that, they would say it's all irrelevant just because of the camera angles and intention of the artists to make her sexy. They were _literally_ the one person _continuously_ denying all the other aspects of her person, but they for some reason thought it was fine when they did it just because the camera was overindulgent.
"Thank you for pointing out how Nick is turned into a literal object!"
so you approve of objectification but only if it's that of men, not women
This game was my first Suda 51 game and I'm happy I played this game because not only do I love this game but I just love Suda 51's games in general.
From Lollipop Chainsaw I got into Deadly Premonition, NMHeroes and Shadows.
Lollipop Chainsaw was a fun game, I wish we could get a re-release of it someday. I played it a ton when I got my PS3 and I almost got everything in it
Unfortunately we are getting a remake next year instead of a re-release.
I love this game. Don't care what the haters say. I know it's kinda jank, but i love everything about it.
how embarrassing for you
gnarkillguch probably pointless to say but I’m glad you love this game despite people ragging on it. If it’s fun to you and you love it, that’s all that matters. I don’t know why people think they can tell someone what they shouldn’t like or judge them for what they do like
I feel the same way about NMH: Heroes Paradise...... It's truly the only game where I get to utilize the WHOLE PS3 controller... (I don't click R3 a lot ND the analog move is a nice change of pace)
Idk it's just...... Pleasant ND hear Travis talks shit while slicing em to death or like when he's losing a clash, he gradually gets surprised that he can lose it like the dude's an error in the game or something. 🤣🤣
The biggest tragedy of this game is that it's stuck on PS3 and Xbox 360 Juliet is such a great character with a nice personality and she just feels like a person rather than some shitty boring action star or equally boring feminist propaganda character that you see in so many modern games even Nick he felt like he was just stuck in a shitty situation and I actively felt sad for him as he's passed around and treated like shit by everyone I just really wish they'd remaster this game or remake it or make a sequel I just want more of it so bad
Word though
5:20 feels like they took inspiration from fist of the north star with the "you're already dead" then the heads exploding. never noticed it till now and I've played the game a lot
Can u tell me where ur pf is from?
*I fucked up, it's yellow.*
I got a nice laugh out of this line.
GAMERS RISE
About to sleep *new episode of deadly individualism comes out* who needs sleep anyway
Honestly this video game introduced me to some killer artists and was quite the ride
So you're telling me WB owns this and she's never guested in Mortal Kombat before?? Blasphemy!!
they have publishing rights, character rights are suda's
I live this game so much. It's such a unique experience. Unlike other games that all feel similar, look similar, and have similar stories. There's nothing else out there quite like Lollipop Chainsaw.
I love James Gunn's quote about sexism at 27:50, truer words have rarely been spoken. Not just about this game but many others with female characters. I'm a female myself and I played a lot of skimpy characters over the years but can't remember ever feeling I was being put down. Someone like Lara Croft might have prominent assets, but she's also smart, strong and confident.
I remember my brother playing this years ago, at the start of 2018 I was pretty much addicted to Mindless Self Indulgence, I would've never known that Jimmy was involved with this game.
If any game deserved a sequel, this one does.
I truly wish it got a sequel or two by now.
"i gave it a makeover"
"......im not an it"
ngl that made me laugh
This is such a good video. You very concisely expressed your thoughts and actually gave this game a passive chance. I was watching this right when it came out, but passed out before I finished, so I decided to watch it again. I'm very much glad to have found your channel 3 years ago, I can't wait for more.
Love this game its a guilty pleasure of mine. 😁
Same
Rock Universe Gaming same here omg i keep playing no matter what
Another person not knowing what "guilty pleasure" means
I honestly find dated pop culture jokes have a certain charm to them. "Unintentional Period Piece" as TV Tropes calls it. Plus hell it's not like Lollipop Chainsaw was one of the biggest offenders. One of the most celebrated comedy cartoons of all time, Animaniacs, makes a ton of 80s and 90s pop culture jokes that would fly over the heads of kids today (Tiny Toons also did this a ton, I didn't even understand the "Thirty Something" parody they did in one episode until many years later). Oh hell in fact that seems to be a Warner Bros. staple now that I think about it. Ever watch certain old Looney Tunes cartoons lately? Yeah not all of them did this, but quite a few of them loved to poke fun at the pop culture of the early 20th century with jokes or references to people like Humphry Bogart, Heady Lamar, and movies and serials I doubt most people born after the 1950s would get that easily.
I love this game, it’s campy and very James Gunn. It’s a guilty pleasure and I have a soft spot for it
Thanks, my Dude. It's Good to end a massy year with a great video of yours.
Just stumbled across this video and I am now a subscriber. I've always liked this game but I was never able to put into words exactly why I liked this game. You've not only done that, but made me appreciate it even more.
This review is the reason I subscribed to you months ago and I'm still gonna stick it out for more. Great video
I love this game! I was a kid when it came out so I did thought it was a scary game at some parts but I loved the pop aesthetic and I would constantly sing the hey mickey song over and over. Great review!
Just wanna say I just discovered this series and your channel and that I can't wait for the killer is dead episode.
Whoah! Love the clips from ding dong's streams. I totally didn't expect that.
17:50 ...THERE'S A CARDCAPTOR SAKURA ALTERNATE COSTUME!?
A outfit that based on Highschool of the Dead good
This is one of my favorite series, thank you. Lollipop Chainsaw has been a part of my life since it came out (still got my Nick keychain pre-order bonus to this day).
Thanx for makin the vid u were an instant sub. Been bingin your vids for like 30hrs :)
Wait i just noticed one of the clothing is from kore wa zombie desu ka? And it actually fits SO well...
Lollipop chainsaw is the shit. It reminds more of kill la kill and panty and stocking. Its overtop fun and weird
I absolutely love this game. It was my first Suda51 game and one I have fond memories of!
Excellent video as always 8=D
Still cant belive James Gunn worked on it too.
Big gift,thanks for the vid
Wasn't expecting a clip from Ding Dongs streams, but a nice suprise
Love the use of Hotline Miami music in the background.
A spot in one of my favorite zed game.
It was embarrassing at first, but man oh man, how things changed.
I can't believe I didn't find your channel sooner. HLM music to go with too. Nice.
Never realised how much i loved suda growing up they were a huge part of my child hood i remember getting shadows of the damned for christmas and it made me pick up lolipop chainsaw(my dads game)
Remember hating this game and never finished it.
Went back to it a few years later and realized I quit on the final chapter lol, this game is way too short but I did enjoy it the 2nd time cause I spent more of my time trying all the combos and it got kinda addictive, it's actually one of the few PS3 games I still own cause I would like to play through it again.
Replaying it right now as I listen to this video (again). I love this game since day one. Gunn and Suda made this very Troma-esque experience which I hope the upcoming remake replicates with all QOL stuff that the game needs.
No QT and other techincal stuff.
Love your videos. Greetings from Chile
Yesss more suda51!
Great video
If they remaster this game, I'm sure WB would make Juliet a dlc character for mortal kombat 12
The last boss battle theme and the rock song that in the Cathedral stage I loved. I love this game too! I would've missed out had I listened to the bad reviews it got.
I die every time I hear about Nick's favorite color. It never gets old. The delivery is perfect.
This game introduced me to anime. Haven't looked back since. Still one of my fondest Summer memories
Best two things in this game: zed's fight theme, and nick
never finished this game before because i was split on this one. i like the dark elements of the game but i felt it was WAY too happy for a suda game. probably better than some other suda games but not legendary as killer7 and no more heroes. but this is still a good video about lollipop chainsaw
I'm in part of the camp that regards Lolipop chainsaw to be the weakest grasshopper game, but I don't disregard it for not being like say Killer 7 or No More heroes. Before playing it, I genuinely was looking forward to the game and it seemed like something up my alley, but after playing I was rather let down by it.
The writing itself when I played it felt rather forced in trying to be a Self aware b movie sorta deal, and I don't think it worked well for that as it did for Shadows of the damned. but my biggest issue was the gameplay. As a hack n slash it's just really dull and mechanically it's not very interesting. Not to mention the levels just kinda outstay their welcome and the bosses aren't that stand outside of their looks and personality.
I don't quite agree with how lolipop chainsaw has the same level of monotony as No More heroes, mostly because of how No More heroes was designed with it's gameplay structure, the levels themselves, and especially the boss fights. I'm not saying No More heroes is like peak Action video games or anything, but it just does a much better job of it than lolipop chainsaw does.
That said, I think this is one of your best videos so far. I especially really liked how you approached how juliet was handled and how the game has some of the similar themes in other suda games, which I'll be honest is something I never really thought of when playing the game.
Its second worst for me, I feel like Flower Sun and Rain is far more weaker
I haven’t played that, so what makes you feel that way about it?
Dude, you got some great taste in music.
loved this game so much
This and NMH were my first Suda51 games. I didn't even realize Lollipop Chainsaw was a GH game until when I was older lol
Lollipop Chainsaw is one of my favorites. The first and only Suda game I play.
Lollipop Chainsaw is just badassery.
I cannot wait for you to cover Killer Is Dead.
I don't think the Metroid M people have a point. They use the exact same plot device as assassins Creed. It might be bad but it wasn't based on sex.
guilty pleasure PAH I unapologetically love this game & Shadow's of the Dammed
I want sequels so bad
I'm so excited about LC getting re-released/remastered because my friends will actually play it, currently it's like 50 dollars on eBay and that's the PS3 or X360 version, so even if you owned the game you'd also need to own an old ass console. I use an emulator (with a mordern XBOX controller) but a lot of my friends struggle to set them up or don't like the low framerate/resolution. Now finally, they will understand how peak this game is
any chance you’ll cover the silver case and the 25th Ward later in this series? Also great video
I never had any problem with the gameplay. No glitches, and once I had the combos memorized, smooooth combat
Oh look, it's the "Bayonetta's too hard, I'll try this" game
I notice some hotline miami music in the background of this video:)
Just continues to show WB games is THE rockstar publisher in the the AAA industry.
Hey I thought I say love your stuff as i'm a huge fan of your analysis videos. I hope maybe you can check out a game named furi and maybe make a video on it?
the boss battle songs are like a lost mindless self indulgence album
Need a "Travis, Hello" compilation
I still adore this game lol
I love this game despite its flaws, and I'm happy that I got into Suda 51's fandom because of it.
With the release of Killer 7 on steam I have a bit of hope of seeing this get a re-release there aswell.
Hi im from the dr discord! :)
9:00
armed with a chainsaw
_ARMED WITH A CHAINSAW_
Its like playing as Brittney from Daria....AWSOME!
Please cover Yaiba Ninja Gaiden Z. The one that shut Gaiden down for the time being deserves the story of its development troubles to finally come out.
Splatterhouse deserves its development hell troubles to be covered too!!!
I think the fact that half the humour is actually just bad really adds to the charm for me
Suda is a pretty tham interesting developer. I like that he want to do unique stuff.
I've seen 3 different zombie anime outfits in this video one from highschool of the dead and at 17:50 the magical zombie girl outfit from is that a zombie
Wasn't Linda Tortalini also on the ER back in the early 90's?
They did anime crossovers when it came out. Not sure they’ll do something like that again for the remake but if they did the most fitting one would be Chainsaw Man
Edit: Also Travis was right. You really can tear shit up with a Pom Pom
I hope you could say everything you said now when the remake comes out.
Suda: creates an over the top sexy character
People: SEXISM
Suda: yeas, take the bait you fools, she has as much depth as a Shakepearean character
No she doesn't lol. She is a fun character though.
@@Largentina. well, yeah, but you get my point
I remembered when I was kid played lollipop chainsaw same both cute and badass...
Edit: I remember scene bedroom looks sexy just idiot I didn’t notice age icon.
To me the humor was good back then and is nostalgic now. I also liked how the combat felt heavy/slow compared to other games that came before it, feels like a more rhythmic than anything else. Rhythmic Gymnastics, Cheerleading - you could say they are (technically speaking) one in the same. Thus, it makes sense why Juliet fights the way she does aside from using a chainsaw that's about half her own size as a weapon. Sure the game had it's problems but the gameplay and story were not included as far as I'm concerned. Could it have been better? Yeah, most things can be improved after all. I love Lollipop Chainsaw as it is though. It was different at a time where everyone was seemingly making the same looking/feeling game... heh, "Deadly Individualism" indeed.
Love this game.
Hey, doe's anyone know what's the opening song that plays for this video? Also awesome break down for this game.
I can't fucking wait for the Killer Is Dead analysis, I'm playing it right now and I don't know what fuck is going on
I was 13 at the time and I remember this being one of the first games I regretted buying. I enjoyed it up until the farm section and after that it just became a slog to play. Got bored and just wanted it to be over with.
this game made me more of a fan of Suda. its just so strange and unique.
still havn't played shadow of the damned. Do you recommend it?
That.. . was enlightening..
This game was the shortest I ever played. Beat it in 7 hours, the same day I got it. Died like once or twice. Luckily I was renting from gamefly. I would've been pissed if I'd paid $60. I really loved the game though. It was cool and fun.
i love how the villan of this game it's a school shooter
even his rellationship with Julliet, its fuel of self entitled
aged like wine
This is unrelated but is that Rick Hunter voicing the text? I can recognize the postal dude from a mile away.