Bruce is defined by this interaction. Falcony says he'd have to go a thousand miles to find someone who doesn't know his name, so he goes thousands of miles from Gotham. Falcony says he's never tasted desperate, so he leaves all his money behind and lives the life of a man with nothing. Falcony says he will always fear what he doesn't understand, so he learns how to understand criminals and how to use that fear against them
Another point, he says Bruce doesn't think through his braveness because Falcony can kill Rachel and Alfred, so then Bruce dawns the cowl. "The mask isn't for you. It's to protect those you care about" -Bruce to Blake in TDKR.
@@vuk5475 first two I'd disagree with. Zemo, definitely. I'd also add Ultron. "Ah Captain America!!! God's righteous man." Called him out in that exchange
Worse part about that whole thing for Bruce is Falacone was right. It's easy to preach justice and equality when you get driven home in a Rolls Royce to a giant mansion in the middle of a huge estate where you're untouchable. Unfortunately for Falcone though, Bruce wasn't just preaching.
@@thomaschristopherwhite9043 in the literal sense: yes. Falcone and Bruce are fictional (characters.) However, make no mistake, there is no such thing as a Batman; there is every such thing as a Mob Boss.
There's an additional irony to this scene: not only does Falcone help shape Batman's crimefighting philosophy, he also unknowingly plants the seeds for his own downfall.
lol except the overall arc Gotham City in this trilogy is completely unrealistic. In our world, the climax when Joker had those two ships rigged would've played out in the polar opposite way. Both ships would've gone boom before he even finished talking, Dent gets exposed in the fallout of *so* many people dying, and then the entire city goes completely to hell, until Bane genocides it. Neither Falcone nor Batman would have amounted to anything.
@@kaiz1845 You're not wrong. I always thought despite this batman trilogy being more grounded in reality, it still was a little unrealistic at times, especially with the two ships scene in Dark Knight
Also very merciful and honorable, the gun Falcone pointed at him being unloaded and letting his boys deliver only a couple warning punches, he could've done much worse and Bruce knew that.
I think something underrated about this scene is the homeless man is more interested in the coat Bruce gave him than the money he got shoved in his face. Really highlights different priorities of people.
@@alejandroreyna2634 Bruce was just giving him the money but he assumed he wanted something for it and he gave Bruce his jacket. The coat was going to be thrown away. The point is while money is nice and helpful especially to a homeless person, the coat is what he really cares about. Something basic like a coat shouldn't be so special but someone who has very little would appreciate it a lot more. It's reaching a bit perhaps but it also makes sense and is natural so maybe not.
Especially because a coat of that quality (something worn by the richest man in Gotham) would probably be worth even more than the money Bruce gave him. It's like that quote from Men At Arms (Discworld) about how the rich can effortlessly buy a good pair of leather boots for fifty dollars, while the less privileged have to make do with ten-dollar boots, which last a little over a year before having to be reinforced with cardboard. "Therefore over a period of ten years, he might have paid out a hundred dollars on boots, twice as much as the man who could afford fifty dollars up front ten years before. And he would still have wet feet."
@@alejandroreyna2634 The coat is immediately useful, whereas the money is not. There are some stores that wouldn't even let him inside even though he has some money
I think you're trying to highlight that your priorities are different because you noticed it and you think we didn't. Rest assured, he spent that money happily and easily.
"I'm not afraid of you." "Because you think you got nothing to lose, but then you haven't thought it all the way through. You haven't thought about your lady friend down at the DA's office. You haven't thought about your old butler! Bang!" The intensity of that exchange is so good, Tom Wilkinson makes this scene.
@@nathanseper8738 He made a very good point.Bruce didn't think it through at all.When people are angry,they can tend to act more on impulse and raw emotion and they're not thinking clearly and logically. Bruce wasn't thinking about Alfred and Rachel and how easily Falcone could get to them and have them killed.I think Falcone,evil though he may be, actually gave Bruce a great lesson.
@@nathanseper8738 Nah. He is not evil . He is just a guy coming from a very desperate dark place with a realistic though very cynical point of view of how things work.
Bold of carmine falcone with that statement esp now that the murder of bruce waynes parents was a catalyst for the events to come - he himself simply did'nt think it through that the good people of gotham would'nt just sit there and pretend that the criminals had the upperhand whilst serious consequences were to unfold in the form of desperate men wanting to take them down eg; the batman, harvey dent and a series of maniacs like the joker and the scarecrow. All would come to bite him in the end.
@@JR-ju3kj Bruce wasn't thinking, and he also wasn't nearly angry enough. He should've walked in there with a gun and unloaded the entire thing into Falcone. That patdown guy was like a good 20 feet too late to stop any assassination attempts lol, it's really not that hard to shoot someone from three diner tables away.
Also explains why the people of Gotham and Even batman to a certain extent fears Joker. Joker is that unexplained,unpredictable evil that you can never understand
Nah ras knew who he was he even tells him later that Gotham was meant to be destroyed way before this movie takes place but something with his father prevented it idr exactly
Yep, it's really THE crucial scene. It's one of the reasons I still think of Batman Begins as the best of the trilogy. It has scenes like this that no one ever talks about yet is so deep and meaningful upon repeat viewing.
Such a great scene. The theme of fear, the idea to humble yourself to the level of a criminal so you can understand crime and fight it. It's perfect. And Tom Wilkinson really sells that character.
“Now, you think because your mommy & your daddy got shot, you know about the ugly side of life, but you don’t.” Damn, as much as we hate to admit it, Falcone was right. Bruce, up until that point was just an angry rich boy, nothing more.
Yes and no. No kid should have to watch his parents get gunned down like that. But, because of his wealth and support circle, he was able to eventually get over.
@@sylvester3018 Your right,but Falconne is basically telling him that two murdered parents is nothing in gotham lol. So his little pity party didn't move him at all. Cold blooded but very true in Gotham. I love how this scene really does show the disconnect Bruce has with what Gotham truly is. He almost gave Bruce the same speech Rachel did. Except Rachel said his fatherwould be ashamed. And Falcone said Bruce should be ashamed of his father.
I dunno why people thought Begins was boring....clearly they don't (or can't) appreciate in-depth Character Development and only care about action...Batman is more about the psychological factors with the characters over the action....
The whole buildup before this is powerful. When Rachel slapped him in the car for telling her what he was gonna do and she just tells him his father would be ashamed and she starts crying after he leaves.
"You're bruce wayne, the prince of gotham. You'd have to go a thousand miles to meet someone who didn't know your name." Months later, in China: "Tell that to the man who owns these" [Wayne Enterprises] I love how that comes back around literally. Falcone was really Bruce's first teacher.
This scene is great because it really shows how Bruce kind of throws himself a pity party. Having your parents murdered in front of you at any age would be tragic, and as a kid even worse, but he still had a loving father figure in Alfred, more money than he could dream of, and was always looked after. This scene really opens Bruce's eyes that lots of people are suffering much more than he is.
so hes not suppose to let his parents death affect him because he's rich? I guess when alfred dies in an accident he can just say oh people has it worse than me no need to feel sad or throw myself a pity party. The fact that he was willing to go to jail for revenge meant that he gave 2 shts about his wealth. Oh and if he didnt let his parents death affect him this much or didnt throw himself into a "pity party" we wouldnt have batman. Dumb dumb
I think the rich kid having a "pity party" is more of Falcone's perception of Bruce Wayne. If was I ruthless mob boss and I saw Wayne barging in like that I would be thinking "who the fck does this kid think he is?" Anyway I think this was an awesome scene portraying Bruce's character development into becoming Batman. It shows that Bruce is still angry over the death of his parents. He can't understand or comprehend his own tragedy because he's naive to how cruel the world can be, while Falcone gives him a eye-opener to this.
@@monopurple349 I'd love for you to point out where I said because he's rich his parents death shouldn't affect him or he cant feel sad. All I said was this scene made him realize as bad as his parents death was, some people still have it worse. Would you not agree that a kid who's parents are murdered in front of him, but didnt have a loving parental figure to look after him, and had no money left to him, had it worse than Bruce? Learn to read, kiddo.
@@gregdrake5069 Fuck no if you're parents are killed in front of you & somebody doesn't have their parents we'll their problems are over losing you're parents right in front of you that shit hits deep how on earth can the person who probably never ever even seen their own parents have it worse they don't who they were so they can't comprehend what the person who did lose their feels , somebody always has it worse than someone else that's life son but again losing you're parents you're kids you're niece's & nephews that shit will always be universal to others having it worse always such as poor people or innocents in jails or prisons why because they've been suffering regardless if they get freed or uplifted to a new social status those who lost their kids parents etc will still be suffering so fuck the rest of the world as I have said because you're love 1s are basically you're entire world .
While Bruce's parents getting shot was the biggest reason Bruce became Batman, I think this scene was really the final straw (movie wise) Bruce confronts corruption and finds out just how bad it really is, this guys threatning to blow his head off despite the place being filled with cops, judges and people of congress. Bruce see's that average efforts are futile in stopping corruption, it's going to take something more drastic.
In addition to Falcone being absolutely right about everything. Bruce was an angry teen back then and traumatic as his loss was, knew nothing about the ugly side of life. Which is why he disappeared and went on his globe trotting adventure.
yeah and on top of it he realized how his world, all of the stuff he owned, his lineage, etc. made him unable to really know how to match that kind of evil and brutality and fight it. (it's very Jungian come to think of it.. he had to then bring himself down into "hell" in order to become truly good)
No, I think in this version of Batman’s story, Bruce finally seeing how much all of Gotham (not just him) is suffering and Falcone giving him a dose of reality is what makes him want to become a vigilante. Before this scene, all he wants to do is kill Joe Chill and get vengeance. He has no interest in fighting crime, leading Wayne Enterprises, or being a philanthropist. Bruce needed to begin to fully empathize with the less fortunate people of the world before he starts wanting to fight for them. That being said, his parents’ murder is certainly a motivation for his crime fighting and willpower after he goes down that path.
"So don't...don't come down here with your anger trying to prove something to yourself!" That was my favorite line from this dialogue. It reveals how naive Falcone knew Bruce was. Here is this insanely wealthy kid huffing & puffing about his parents being murdered (which was extremely tragic) when his life & lifestyle never skipped a beat. He always had the resources to fix things but now he wants to show "strong" he is by thinking he's at an disadvantage bc he no longer had his parents when he's never tasted desperate & never had to do things out of survival. It was a wake up call for him. Him giving his money away & running away having to figure out how to eat with nothing gave him a taste of what the other side of Gotham is like.
Almost every character is unrealistically philosophical. It's feels like it's Nolan talking through these characters instead of the actual characters speaking for themselves. I wouldn't mind if there weren't so many examples of so many characters having speeches ready.
@@SBandy What's that suppose to mean? So because it's just a film it means I shouldn't criticize it? Don't be one of those people who say that just because it's a movie it gives it an excuse for a flaw. I don't need to calm down about anything, you're exaggerating it.
No, if that was true then he would have ran around the city as a kid challenging criminals. He didn't become Batman solely because of his parents being murdered. There were a chain of events that eventually broke him.
Falcone and Ras Alghul talk about Fear is some kind of symbol, after the drug and fight scene with fake Ras Alghul, Bruce realize that he need a symbol to against Fear. I think that is the moment Bruce become Batman. Falcone maybe not the reason why Bruce become Batman, but Falcone is the reason why Batman wearing mask. Very important scene.
@@thewhiteknightcat4350 Agree that it was a chain of events but what set the chain was triggered by his parents death.... You can take the instance of when Barry's parents where killed that led him to become the Flash... once he changed that event in the Flash series he almost lost his power's but eventually he was able to reset it by allowing his parent's to die for the greater good..
"You never tasted desperate." I hear that line and feel a small degree of pity for criminals who need to steep at such a low level to survive while we are all lucky with what we have. A tiny degree only, I know they are criminals, I know they hurt, kill and steal but still, before they make those vicious acts their lives must have been hell to get to that point of no return. That line hit me more than all the others he said in that speech.
I know and agree with what you're saying it's why I have realized and other people need to realize that the world isn't black and white,you just need to understand that criminals are people who do things that most people consider evil and they're not evil because they choose to be they just are struggling to get anything they want in life.
I liked how in this version of the story Joe Chill wasn't a career criminal or the future Joker, but a desperate drug addict mugging people just to get the money for his next hit.
soy boy with a big bag of chips and a big heart Yes it’s better than the Winter Soldier for sure. Better main character development. Cast and acting is superior, score is better, plot is more complex and better executed. Ra’s Al Ghul is far more compelling than Bucky. He has real motivations that even is as an audience can understand. The only thing that the Winter Soldier does better is action and that’s only because it’s a newer movie. But if you’re talking about which movie is better made it is by far Batman Begins. The only marvel films that come remotely close to this movie are Spider Man 2 and Logan
soy boy with a big bag of chips and a big heart oh ok I still like The Winter Soldier but Batman Begins is an overlooked masterpiece. Everyone talks about how TDK is a masterpiece but yet forget how amazing this film was as well
I love how Falcone does a look about the room as Bruce gets taken away, he actually does care about how these people react, he's afraid one day they'll stop fearing him & he won't understand why.
Me too. I think it's because it's the only one that captures that Gotham atmosphere. The sequels, for whatever reason, just made Gotham look like a regular city.
This scene also shows what the underworld thinks of the rich. To Falcone, Thomas Wayne was just somebody who begged for his life instead of somebody trying to diffuse a situation. It really shows how perception of class blinds people to each other's realities. Bruce shows up to Falcone and probably tries to intimidate him. To Falcone though, he's just a rich kid with a sob story. To Bruce here, Falcone is just a gangster getting off on scaring people. Neither truly get what the other person is about. Falcone is about survival. He has put himself on top of the food chain. Batman eventually stops him, but needs to understand how criminals think. Falcone *doesn't* get Bruce. He's right in pointing out that others have it worse than him, but he cant comprehend that this kid would dedicate his life to bringing down people like him....by throwing himself down the trenches too. Really interesting dynamics here.
Not really, at least in this version Bruce had no real aim in his life everything was defined by the murder of his father and mother. I think everyone in Gotham got a little frustrated with the poor little rich boy saga of Bruce Wayne and Falcone is spelling out the reality. Until Joe Chil got taken out by Falcone and Rachel gave Bruce some perspective he never thought about anything else. To a certain extent becoming Batman gave him a temporary reprieve of not having to process his grief for the loss of his parents. Prior to that Bruce was fixated on killing Joe Chill. They address this in Dark Knight Rises when Alfred explains to Bruce that he hoped Bruce would never come back to Gotham. Alfred always knew being in Gotham would give Bruce no peace or happiness becoming Batman was the only way he could function within Gotham, not as just an ordinary man. In fact, the real tragedy is that someone like Bruce Wayne could have made the world a better place he both had the wealth and power and was a good man. This scene was never designed to show what the underworld thought of Wayne and his family but what was the catalyst for him to become Batman.
@hkr006 Chill lied to Falcone about Thomas Wayne's reaction when he was killed. There was no begging involved, really. Just a moment of panic when Martha had her necklace grabbed.
@@SalemGhassanHanna That's right.Both Chill and Falcone lied. Thomas Wayne didn't beg for his life.He tried to diffuse and deescalate the situation-which is a language,you could say, that guys like Chill and Falcone, of course,wouldn't understand.They just understand brute force,fear,intimidation,bullying and violence,they wouldn't grasp the idea of someone trying to calm down a situation using words.
I like this scene largely because as ruthless as he is, Falcone comes across as practically human. He holds all the cards in this encounter, but he imparts a crucial life-lesson that helps form Bruce into Batman...as opposed to just blowing his head off(or giving the impression he's chomping at the bits to murder anyone who looks at him cross-eyed). It's another dimension to the villainous portrayal that's more realistic, in my opinion; He understands the gritty side of life, and what it takes to claw yourself up as to those that aren't privledged or without connections by virtue of their heritege, what seperates Bruce from the element he'd tackle as Batman. As a lifelong Batman fan, I recognize it as a sentiment to his lore that can't be understated.
Well, obviously Falcone didn't want to kill him or anything. He just wanted to teach him a lesson without being like a simple-minded brute. He could have killed him but it was more crueler to show him that he was right. I suppose in a way, Falcone knew he was doing him a favor.
People should appreciate this movie a lot more, Bruce's character arc in The Batman is really similar to Batman Begins: his realization about what drives criminals, learning to control his rage, seeing that good and evil aren't so simple and finally becoming a symbol of hope to inspire Gotham.
The Batman is trash and in no way comparable to this. But that's just my opinion. RP had no character arch. Just randomly sees people almost drowned and a lady that isn't afraid of him and suddenly sees that he needs to be more than a symbol of fear and vengeance. Not a thing in that movie made sense realistically. Horrible cast horrible writing and horrible directing.
@@justinrisen1929 your take is awful. They literally build his character arc with so many little details. The reminders that he needs to do more as Bruce Wayne, his unintentional inspiration towards riddler and learning his parents weren’t perfect teaches him to stop defining himself by revenge and anger and instead to help by seeing how destructive his path is through the character of riddler. The film isn’t trash and it makes perfect sense realistically, you obviously payed zero attention and have no right to judge the film. “Horrible cast, horrible writing and horrible directing” yet it’s one of the most praised comic book films in the genre. Your judgment and takes are what’s horrible, not the film. Begins and The Batman are both fantastic and successful films and that is the reality.
Did anybody else notice that when Falcone pulled the trigger and said "BANG!", Bruce did flinch slightly? Only goes to show that despite walking in and trying to show how brave he was, not just to Falcone, Alfred, Rachel, or to all of Gotham, but especially to himself, Bruce was afraid, because what the crime lord said was true, he had never experienced the true ugly side of life.
I think Bruce went in to confront Falcone at the restaurant because he believed Falcone wouldn't try to pull anything there (too many witnesses). But once Bruce realized that all the patrons were either too afraid of Falcone/in his pocket, it was a "things got real serious" moment.
Such a powerful scene, and what Falcone said was true. Bruce did have a skewed and somewhat naive viewpoint about the evils of the world, and he did think he'd seen it all due to his parents' death. Strongest quote from Falcone is, "You're always afraid of what you don't understand"
K Lee Which comes back at the end, when Gordon says "We get semi automatic guns, they get automatic. We get Kevlar, they get armor piercing rounds" Which leads into the Joker, a direct *reaction* to Bruce's action in the first movie of becoming Batman. What brilliantly written film!!!
Tom Wilkinson is highly underrated. This, Eternal Sunshine and In The Bedroom are wildly different movies, and he played a different character in each, yet he nailed his performance in all three within the span of four years. Respect
At 2:00, the facial expression of Falcone is pure villainy, almost animalistic even. He truly is the embodiment of Gotham's underbelly; Cruel in nature, unapologetic, instinctively murderous. Tom Wilkinson as Falcone and Cilian Murphy as the Scarecrow are phenomenal in their haunting representations of Gotham's ugliness. Bravo!
For me this is one of the best scenes in all 3 movies. When he explains the power of fear and pulls out that gun. That’s power money can’t buy. So true.
This is when the "Prince of Gotham" got his street education and street knowledge from. Got his head out of the clouds and down with the people and started seeing what was really going on in the real world. Lots of corruption and twisted men pulling the strings in society.
What I like is how he puts that to use when he returns to Gotham. It's brief, but during his initial scouting missions in the city he's wearing an old ball cap and a dirty hoodie... blending in with everyone else on the street.
I think of Watch Dogs. "I thought I could fix a little girl's death, but instead it led to all of this - exposed lies, corrupted kings, a broken city. And me - a changed man. I don't look back anymore. I don't regret. I look forward. Everything is connected, and I'll use that to expose, to protect, and if necessary -- to punish." - Aiden Pearce.
That's the best way to build your superhero - make him look insignificant at first, so that when he becomes the hero we all know, we feel as great as he does.
This scene is important because it convinces our protagonist that he cannot fight crime as who he is, Bruce Wayne. Bruce Wayne has something to lose and can be understood. Batman has nothing to lose and is a mystery. The things he has to lose, that anyone fighting the powerful who doesn't care about their own life has to lose, are the lives of those around them they love. This is the lesson he learns from Falcone.
Because while his parents death have him motivation, this scene set the path for Batman. They won’t listen to someone who is part of the system, esp not rich naive Bruce Wayne because he didn’t understand the minds of criminals. So he left and traveled the world to understand the truth
This is the scene that really pulled me into the film. Bruce's complete naivete and inexperience in contrast to Falcone's cold-blooded pragmatism. In actuality, Falcone was in a strange way a backhanded mentor to Bruce because it realized to play with the big boys, you've got to be willing to be unconditionally badass with no fear.
Tom Wilkinson is an extremely underrated actor. He's a career supporting actor. He was in Batman Begins (obviously) but also Shakespeare in Love and he was Cornwallis in The Patriot, not to mention so many other credits.
This conversation covers everything needed for Batman's creation. 1. Severe Injustice & corruption in Gotham 2. Desire for revenge/catharsis for parents murder 3. Travel abroad to learn about poverty/simple things - to league of shadows 4. Using "fear" as device - the Bat
I find the psychological underpinnings displayed in this film and about Batman so interesting. After suffering from a traumatic childhood experience, he realises that he still is under a place of privilege. So to experience true stress, he strips his privilege away and lives among those who are suffering more than him, so he can learn, adapt and become the person he is destined to become.
"Look around you. Theres two councilman, a union official, a couple of off duty cops and a judge. Now i wouldn't have a seconds hesitation of blowing your head off right here in front of em. Now thats power you cant buy. Thats the power of fear."
Back in 2005 I went to the movies to watch "Batman Begins" and "Sin City" back to back... and in both movies, the villain (Falcone & Senator Roark) make the exact same speech to the hero (Bruce & Hartigan), pointing a gun at them and saying that they could just shoot them and no one in the restaurant/hospital would do anything about it, and that this is what real power is. I felt like I was having the worst déjà-vu ever while watching the second movie ^^ weird coincidence how similar these 2 scenes are, considering that one couldn't have copied it from the other, what with both films coming out at the same time, just a couple weeks apart.
"I could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue and not lose any supporters." >Ends up getting 13 million more votes than previous election. Trump and Falcone are masters of fear. Not to get political but that Falfone line made me think of that Trump quote.
You ever notice Bruce got his life lessons from his villains - training on intimidation from Ras, lessons on what he has to lose from Falcone, then later about psychology from Joker and strength of will from Bane, to lesser extents.
Falcone gave Bruce a good lesson in life. Up to later he hasn’t tasted desperation. Its amazing how much you may bend or even break your morals if your starving to death or about the freeze to death and what you will do to survive.
This has to be one of the best scenes ever in any movie. Phenomenal dialogue, sound design and acting especially from Tom Wilkinson. The Sound Design when he says 'Begged' then the BEAT before he says it again, is just Film-making at it's very best. Up there with the Pacino/De Niro Heat Scene.
The interesting thing about this scene is that even though people say this scene was humbling for Bruce, he STILL didn't get it. Falcone told him that he hadn't thought through what he had to lose, and that he would always fear what he didn't understand. Of course, this inspired Bruce to don the mask and fight fire with fire, but then Gotham's underground spat out an adversary that used that tactic against him - The Joker. There's a good argument to be made that The Joker likely wouldn't have even done what he did if not for Batman - Batman created his own adversary. Bruce didn't understand The Joker or what he was trying to do, and had to be told by Alfred what The Jokers goal even was, and then The Joker ended up killing Rachel, which caused Bruce to hang up the mask for 8 years. Then, in The Dark Knight Rises, Bane lamp-shaded Bruces lack of understanding again when he pointed out that Bruce had merely "adopted the dark." From the very beginning, Bruce tried to use their tactics against them, but ultimately didn't understand the vile underbelly of Gotham. Falcone, even after Bruce had put on the mask, was proven correct. Bruce hadn't thought it through, lost Rachel, and The Joker ended up winning. I feel like this whole exchange has a deeper meaning in the narrative of the trilogy, and actually does more than just set up Bruce becoming Batman.
@@mr.x1493 Even better than Dark Knight, I'm sure you'd agree. 2nd movie was great and Heath Legder killed it with Joker but towards the end the plot got a little cheesy. I just didn't buy it when the people on the boat refused to blow each other up to save themselves just so Christian Bale could grunt *_"THEY"RE NOT... HRGH... LIKE YOU... EEGH..."_* .'Begins was a lot darker and more fun to watch, IMO. Scarecrow was really well done, too.
Interesting fact: On the original unedited version of the script, after Falcone tells Bruce about his parents killing, they originally planned for Bruce slowly getting up and walking away, with falcone then inquiring: "Where are you going?" to which Bruce responds, "I have to return some video tapes".
The passion of this movie from the cast to the creators is clearly shown and it's hysterical. Professionalism at its finest. Best hero movie for me. For what I've seen so far.
This is actually the underlying conscience problem of Hamlet in Shakespeare's play. He's not afraid, but he's angry, but he needs to be fearful to have an effective strategy, so it leaves him feeling impotent but at the same time, more powerful. It's really bizarre how close this is to Hamlet.
This is KINO. As a man that loves cinema and has watched many artistically "sound" films, I can tell you this, this scene has a lot of artistic merit. Not only is this scene integral to Bruce's character, this scene is CRUCIAL in the trilogy
Bruce : I came here to show not everyone's afraid of you Falcons : only those who know me kid. What a badass line and true to people who are pure evil not avengers kinda evil
Bruce is defined by this interaction. Falcony says he'd have to go a thousand miles to find someone who doesn't know his name, so he goes thousands of miles from Gotham. Falcony says he's never tasted desperate, so he leaves all his money behind and lives the life of a man with nothing. Falcony says he will always fear what he doesn't understand, so he learns how to understand criminals and how to use that fear against them
Facts man facts that’s why Batman’s the og
Gotta love it when the bad guys tell the good guys how to defeat them.
@@bratton79 true that
Another point, he says Bruce doesn't think through his braveness because Falcony can kill Rachel and Alfred, so then Bruce dawns the cowl. "The mask isn't for you. It's to protect those you care about" -Bruce to Blake in TDKR.
Well said. Facts
Ahhh, Nolan villains, giving the protagonist a dose of reality. Good old days.
Ya and real quality villains don't even exist in movies nowadays
@@eltornado7777 thanos,killmonger,helmut zemo,...
@@vuk5475 first two I'd disagree with. Zemo, definitely. I'd also add Ultron.
"Ah Captain America!!! God's righteous man."
Called him out in that exchange
@@kamogeloboale1051 where the fuck can you disagree
@@kamogeloboale1051 thanos is best written villain in mcu
""you've never tasted desperate" love that line
Bang!
Worse part about that whole thing for Bruce is Falacone was right. It's easy to preach justice and equality when you get driven home in a Rolls Royce to a giant mansion in the middle of a huge estate where you're untouchable. Unfortunately for Falcone though, Bruce wasn't just preaching.
@@thomaschristopherwhite9043 except Bruce is a fictional character with fictional assets. Falcone on the other hand...
@@mtumeumrani376 What the hell are you talking about? They're both fictional characters.
@@thomaschristopherwhite9043 in the literal sense: yes. Falcone and Bruce are fictional (characters.) However, make no mistake, there is no such thing as a Batman; there is every such thing as a Mob Boss.
There's an additional irony to this scene: not only does Falcone help shape Batman's crimefighting philosophy, he also unknowingly plants the seeds for his own downfall.
bang!
lol except the overall arc Gotham City in this trilogy is completely unrealistic. In our world, the climax when Joker had those two ships rigged would've played out in the polar opposite way. Both ships would've gone boom before he even finished talking, Dent gets exposed in the fallout of *so* many people dying, and then the entire city goes completely to hell, until Bane genocides it. Neither Falcone nor Batman would have amounted to anything.
@@kaiz1845 if you say so
@@kaiz1845 bro for real 🤣😂
@@kaiz1845 You're not wrong. I always thought despite this batman trilogy being more grounded in reality, it still was a little unrealistic at times, especially with the two ships scene in Dark Knight
Falcone was straight up REAL in this scene. He gave Bruce the wake up call and reality check he needed.
Also very merciful and honorable, the gun Falcone pointed at him being unloaded and letting his boys deliver only a couple warning punches, he could've done much worse and Bruce knew that.
@@mattb6369 I always assumed he had the safety on when the gun didn't go off lol
And Scarecrow gave Falcone his worst nightmare.
He’s so real and yet so Perfect for the movie
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Now that's an accent you can't buy.
It's an accent you can learn.
It's... The point of the saying.
the crazy thing is that Tom Wilkinson (Falcone) is British
Christopher Nolan bought it....in a sense. :D
what accent is that? Italian?
I think something underrated about this scene is the homeless man is more interested in the coat Bruce gave him than the money he got shoved in his face. Really highlights different priorities of people.
He only traded with him because of the money
@@alejandroreyna2634 Bruce was just giving him the money but he assumed he wanted something for it and he gave Bruce his jacket. The coat was going to be thrown away. The point is while money is nice and helpful especially to a homeless person, the coat is what he really cares about. Something basic like a coat shouldn't be so special but someone who has very little would appreciate it a lot more. It's reaching a bit perhaps but it also makes sense and is natural so maybe not.
Especially because a coat of that quality (something worn by the richest man in Gotham) would probably be worth even more than the money Bruce gave him. It's like that quote from Men At Arms (Discworld) about how the rich can effortlessly buy a good pair of leather boots for fifty dollars, while the less privileged have to make do with ten-dollar boots, which last a little over a year before having to be reinforced with cardboard. "Therefore over a period of ten years, he might have paid out a hundred dollars on boots, twice as much as the man who could afford fifty dollars up front ten years before. And he would still have wet feet."
@@alejandroreyna2634 The coat is immediately useful, whereas the money is not. There are some stores that wouldn't even let him inside even though he has some money
I think you're trying to highlight that your priorities are different because you noticed it and you think we didn't. Rest assured, he spent that money happily and easily.
"I'm not afraid of you."
"Because you think you got nothing to lose, but then you haven't thought it all the way through. You haven't thought about your lady friend down at the DA's office. You haven't thought about your old butler! Bang!"
The intensity of that exchange is so good, Tom Wilkinson makes this scene.
That mob boss may be evil, but he's right: Bruce doesn't know what its like to be at the end of his rope.
@@nathanseper8738 He made a very good point.Bruce didn't think it through at all.When people are angry,they can tend to act more on impulse and raw emotion and they're not thinking clearly and logically. Bruce wasn't thinking about Alfred and Rachel and how easily Falcone could get to them and have them killed.I think Falcone,evil though he may be, actually gave Bruce a great lesson.
@@nathanseper8738 Nah. He is not evil . He is just a guy coming from a very desperate dark place with a realistic though very cynical point of view of how things work.
Bold of carmine falcone with that statement esp now that the murder of bruce waynes parents was a catalyst for the events to come - he himself simply did'nt think it through that the good people of gotham would'nt just sit there and pretend that the criminals had the upperhand whilst serious consequences were to unfold in the form of desperate men wanting to take them down eg; the batman, harvey dent and a series of maniacs like the joker and the scarecrow. All would come to bite him in the end.
@@JR-ju3kj Bruce wasn't thinking, and he also wasn't nearly angry enough. He should've walked in there with a gun and unloaded the entire thing into Falcone. That patdown guy was like a good 20 feet too late to stop any assassination attempts lol, it's really not that hard to shoot someone from three diner tables away.
"You always Fear what you Don't understand"
Becomes founding philosophy of his crimefighting.
Also explains why the people of Gotham and Even batman to a certain extent fears Joker. Joker is that unexplained,unpredictable evil that you can never understand
@@theshadow5352 exactly great movie great story best batman movie you can make
@@rikimaruazumaninja Ehh best batman movie for me(and most people) is dark knight. Batman begins is a close second though
@@theshadow5352 I ment the trilogy
That moment when you deliver your enemy the means to get you.
Falcone, you dumbass.
Gotta respect Bruce. He went a 1000 miles to find someone who didn’t know him, and then he came back a million times stronger
That homeless guy didn't recognise him.
@@polreamonn falcone said he'd have to walk a thousand miles to find someone who doesn't know his NAME
And when he came back he turned billion times stronger
Nah ras knew who he was he even tells him later that Gotham was meant to be destroyed way before this movie takes place but something with his father prevented it idr exactly
@@Jin-lx7or he probably meant about the prison since they arrested him they didn't know who he is.
The way he said "don't come down here with your anger" that hit straight to Bruce's soul
Yooo had me crying 😭
He gave no fucks. Like at all 😂
He said it loud ash too
Rest in peace Tom Wilkinson! 1948-2023!
Looking back this was one of the most crucial scenes in the film.
Saint Link Not entirely. It's the reason he wears a mask though.
I'd say in the entire trilogy.
Yep, it's really THE crucial scene. It's one of the reasons I still think of Batman Begins as the best of the trilogy. It has scenes like this that no one ever talks about yet is so deep and meaningful upon repeat viewing.
Such a great scene. The theme of fear, the idea to humble yourself to the level of a criminal so you can understand crime and fight it. It's perfect. And Tom Wilkinson really sells that character.
Possibly the most important one in the whole Nolan's trilogy.
When Falcony said "He begged like a dog" i got fucking chills because I knew Bruce was going to fuck him up for that
Falcone*
I thought that was maroni
I thoaght before why did not he hit him for that
How bad does it feel for Bruce?
*falcone
“Now, you think because your mommy & your daddy got shot, you know about the ugly side of life, but you don’t.”
Damn, as much as we hate to admit it, Falcone was right. Bruce, up until that point was just an angry rich boy, nothing more.
Batman was birthed when Falcone said "said he begged...like a dog."
love that line, it can almost be used on a motivational poster
@@HeyImdrphilyall yes because everyone’s parents are getting shot right? 😂
Yes and no. No kid should have to watch his parents get gunned down like that.
But, because of his wealth and support circle, he was able to eventually get over.
@@sylvester3018 Your right,but Falconne is basically telling him that two murdered parents is nothing in gotham lol. So his little pity party didn't move him at all. Cold blooded but very true in Gotham. I love how this scene really does show the disconnect Bruce has with what Gotham truly is. He almost gave Bruce the same speech Rachel did. Except Rachel said his fatherwould be ashamed. And Falcone said Bruce should be ashamed of his father.
Such a well written scene and the actor playing Falcone did a perfect job
Gotta love Tom Wilkinson! Man nailed that gangster presence and accent!
That accent is perfect
I dunno why people thought Begins was boring....clearly they don't (or can't) appreciate in-depth Character Development and only care about action...Batman is more about the psychological factors with the characters over the action....
Especially as the action in the later films is rarely much cop anyway
Who the fuck said it's boring dude
Begins is the best one of trilogy
Dave Matthes those people are idiots who don’t appreciate film
I don't think anybody said it was boring.
Falcone: No gun? I'm insulted.
Bruce: Well, I did have a gun, but Katie Holmes made me throw it in the river.
Damn you Katie!
***** Indeed.
+Spent Lizard RACHAEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
got slapped up, than had to throw it away
I don’t care if he’s insulted I wouldn’t walk around with a gun anyway
Falcone’s speech in this is utter master class in acting. The energy and character he brings with just his interpretation of the script is incredible.
RIP Tom Wilkinson. He was unforgettable here and in his Oscar Nominated Turn in the 2001 film 'In the Bedroom'.
Tom Wilkinson brings so much to this scene. Such a great actor.
The whole buildup before this is powerful. When Rachel slapped him in the car for telling her what he was gonna do and she just tells him his father would be ashamed and she starts crying after he leaves.
Aleatha Vogel nu
Since when did the nut move into the nuthouse?
Tom Wilkinson?
General Cornwallis?
Holy fuck!
@@thamostgangsta12 That is an _amazing_ part!
"You're bruce wayne, the prince of gotham. You'd have to go a thousand miles to meet someone who didn't know your name."
Months later, in China: "Tell that to the man who owns these" [Wayne Enterprises]
I love how that comes back around literally. Falcone was really Bruce's first teacher.
You know he visited Falcone after he trained with Ra's al Ghul right ?
+Eric Cartman it was before, via a flashback
Eric Cartman watch it again dumbass
hahahah that killed me...criminal for stealing his own stuffs. man ure good . Hehe
It is stealing if he doesn't say he's Bruce Wayne, obviously...
“A wise man learns more from his enemies, than a fool from his friends.”
Falcone: *"Now that's power you can't buy!"*
Bruce: *Laughs in Weaponized Batmobiles*
Yeah but despite that he was still wanted by the police for being a vigilante so in a sense Falcone is still right
bang!
Bro this was so good
Batman doesn't laugh 😐
funny is that without money, Falcone had no real power :P can't inspire fear, if you can't pay your brutes.
This scene is great because it really shows how Bruce kind of throws himself a pity party. Having your parents murdered in front of you at any age would be tragic, and as a kid even worse, but he still had a loving father figure in Alfred, more money than he could dream of, and was always looked after. This scene really opens Bruce's eyes that lots of people are suffering much more than he is.
so hes not suppose to let his parents death affect him because he's rich? I guess when alfred dies in an accident he can just say oh people has it worse than me no need to feel sad or throw myself a pity party. The fact that he was willing to go to jail for revenge meant that he gave 2 shts about his wealth. Oh and if he didnt let his parents death affect him this much or didnt throw himself into a "pity party" we wouldnt have batman. Dumb dumb
I think the rich kid having a "pity party" is more of Falcone's perception of Bruce Wayne. If was I ruthless mob boss and I saw Wayne barging in like that I would be thinking "who the fck does this kid think he is?" Anyway I think this was an awesome scene portraying Bruce's character development into becoming Batman. It shows that Bruce is still angry over the death of his parents. He can't understand or comprehend his own tragedy because he's naive to how cruel the world can be, while Falcone gives him a eye-opener to this.
When your parents are killed the rest of the world is irrelevant in your eyes fuck other people's problems
@@monopurple349 I'd love for you to point out where I said because he's rich his parents death shouldn't affect him or he cant feel sad. All I said was this scene made him realize as bad as his parents death was, some people still have it worse. Would you not agree that a kid who's parents are murdered in front of him, but didnt have a loving parental figure to look after him, and had no money left to him, had it worse than Bruce?
Learn to read, kiddo.
@@gregdrake5069 Fuck no if you're parents are killed in front of you & somebody doesn't have their parents we'll their problems are over losing you're parents right in front of you that shit hits deep how on earth can the person who probably never ever even seen their own parents have it worse they don't who they were so they can't comprehend what the person who did lose their feels , somebody always has it worse than someone else that's life son but again losing you're parents you're kids you're niece's & nephews that shit will always be universal to others having it worse always such as poor people or innocents in jails or prisons why because they've been suffering regardless if they get freed or uplifted to a new social status those who lost their kids parents etc will still be suffering so fuck the rest of the world as I have said because you're love 1s are basically you're entire world .
While Bruce's parents getting shot was the biggest reason Bruce became Batman, I think this scene was really the final straw (movie wise) Bruce confronts corruption and finds out just how bad it really is, this guys threatning to blow his head off despite the place being filled with cops, judges and people of congress. Bruce see's that average efforts are futile in stopping corruption, it's going to take something more drastic.
Like taking a cough drop
In addition to Falcone being absolutely right about everything. Bruce was an angry teen back then and traumatic as his loss was, knew nothing about the ugly side of life. Which is why he disappeared and went on his globe trotting adventure.
yeah and on top of it he realized how his world, all of the stuff he owned, his lineage, etc. made him unable to really know how to match that kind of evil and brutality and fight it. (it's very Jungian come to think of it.. he had to then bring himself down into "hell" in order to become truly good)
Kinda like out world..
No, I think in this version of Batman’s story, Bruce finally seeing how much all of Gotham (not just him) is suffering and Falcone giving him a dose of reality is what makes him want to become a vigilante. Before this scene, all he wants to do is kill Joe Chill and get vengeance. He has no interest in fighting crime, leading Wayne Enterprises, or being a philanthropist. Bruce needed to begin to fully empathize with the less fortunate people of the world before he starts wanting to fight for them. That being said, his parents’ murder is certainly a motivation for his crime fighting and willpower after he goes down that path.
"So don't...don't come down here with your anger trying to prove something to yourself!" That was my favorite line from this dialogue. It reveals how naive Falcone knew Bruce was. Here is this insanely wealthy kid huffing & puffing about his parents being murdered (which was extremely tragic) when his life & lifestyle never skipped a beat. He always had the resources to fix things but now he wants to show "strong" he is by thinking he's at an disadvantage bc he no longer had his parents when he's never tasted desperate & never had to do things out of survival. It was a wake up call for him. Him giving his money away & running away having to figure out how to eat with nothing gave him a taste of what the other side of Gotham is like.
Best comment so far, amazing scene.
Rest in peace great actor 🙏🏽
It wasn’t just a trilogy... it was life.. lesson.. guidance.. every moment of it..
NAVEEN SINGH & we thank Mr. Nolan a great deal for it
Oh,absolutely. I even took notes from the movies when I re-watched them at home! Ha! Ha!
They really do have a lot of great life lessons in them!
Almost every character is unrealistically philosophical. It's feels like it's Nolan talking through these characters instead of the actual characters speaking for themselves. I wouldn't mind if there weren't so many examples of so many characters having speeches ready.
@@nathanieldiaz5254
It is a film bud. Calm yourself.
@@SBandy What's that suppose to mean? So because it's just a film it means I shouldn't criticize it? Don't be one of those people who say that just because it's a movie it gives it an excuse for a flaw. I don't need to calm down about anything, you're exaggerating it.
Thank you, Falcone, for creating the Batman ;)
fakescorpion112 No, Batman was created the night Bruce Wayne's parents were murdered.
No, if that was true then he would have ran around the city as a kid challenging criminals. He didn't become Batman solely because of his parents being murdered. There were a chain of events that eventually broke him.
The White Knight Cat WELL PUT !!!!! a chain of events lead him to become Batman !!! because of how corrupt Gotham was !!!
Falcone and Ras Alghul talk about Fear is some kind of symbol, after the drug and fight scene with fake Ras Alghul, Bruce realize that he need a symbol to against Fear. I think that is the moment Bruce become Batman. Falcone maybe not the reason why Bruce become Batman, but Falcone is the reason why Batman wearing mask. Very important scene.
@@thewhiteknightcat4350 Agree that it was a chain of events but what set the chain was triggered by his parents death....
You can take the instance of when Barry's parents where killed that led him to become the Flash... once he changed that event in the Flash series he almost lost his power's but eventually he was able to reset it by allowing his parent's to die for the greater good..
"You never tasted desperate."
I hear that line and feel a small degree of pity for criminals who need to steep at such a low level to survive while we are all lucky with what we have. A tiny degree only, I know they are criminals, I know they hurt, kill and steal but still, before they make those vicious acts their lives must have been hell to get to that point of no return.
That line hit me more than all the others he said in that speech.
I know and agree with what you're saying it's why I have realized and other people need to realize that the world isn't black and white,you just need to understand that criminals are people who do things that most people consider evil and they're not evil because they choose to be they just are struggling to get anything they want in life.
I liked how in this version of the story Joe Chill wasn't a career criminal or the future Joker, but a desperate drug addict mugging people just to get the money for his next hit.
Tom Wilkinson Rest In Power. One of my many....many favorite British actors.
To be honest Falconie in this scene starts the training process for batman.
yep..that is why I think Batman Begins is the best origin film of all the comic book origin movies.
Lekks Luthor iron man 1?
Infernal460 Iron Man is in my top 5.
1) Batman Begins
2) Antman
3) Superman 78'
4) Iron Man
5) MOS
Oh yeah.
The dumbest move he made.
Betting on Bruce being yet another crybaby.
everyone of the commenters who perceived this is brilliantly deep. GG.
This movie is a masterpiece. Dark Knight is a sequel, this is the one who made that movie possible.
Steve Rogers best superhero movie
soy boy with a big bag of chips and a big heart
Yes it’s better than the Winter Soldier for sure. Better main character development. Cast and acting is superior, score is better, plot is more complex and better executed. Ra’s Al Ghul is far more compelling than Bucky. He has real motivations that even is as an audience can understand. The only thing that the Winter Soldier does better is action and that’s only because it’s a newer movie. But if you’re talking about which movie is better made it is by far Batman Begins. The only marvel films that come remotely close to this movie are Spider Man 2 and Logan
soy boy with a big bag of chips and a big heart oh ok I still like The Winter Soldier but Batman Begins is an overlooked masterpiece. Everyone talks about how TDK is a masterpiece but yet forget how amazing this film was as well
Nah, The Dark Knight is better.
But this is the best scene of "Batman Begins".
@@mvttz fully agree on your first comment.
"You've never tasted desperate" I love that line so much now that I'm older
RIP Tom Wilkinson. 🙏
I love how Falcone does a look about the room as Bruce gets taken away, he actually does care about how these people react, he's afraid one day they'll stop fearing him & he won't understand why.
Always gotta be on your toes
"It's a nice coat!" 😂😂😂😂😂
Batman: "Nice coat"
Jay Pritchett "Thanks."
Harold Saxon Mr Saxon. Harriet Jones, MP for flydale north.
Captain Batman: Flies away!
@@Castrated__ Yes, yes. I know who you are.
I might be in massive minority but “Batman begins” is my favourite in the trilogy!
Out of all the movies in the trilogy, this one was the one that felt the most like a Batman movie.
Me too. I think it's because it's the only one that captures that Gotham atmosphere. The sequels, for whatever reason, just made Gotham look like a regular city.
This isn't popular but I hated the second one
You're not alone my friend 🙌🏻
@@Bubbles99718 lol we found the contrarian here... you don't have to hate other things to love the thing that you love pal.
This scene also shows what the underworld thinks of the rich. To Falcone, Thomas Wayne was just somebody who begged for his life instead of somebody trying to diffuse a situation.
It really shows how perception of class blinds people to each other's realities.
Bruce shows up to Falcone and probably tries to intimidate him. To Falcone though, he's just a rich kid with a sob story. To Bruce here, Falcone is just a gangster getting off on scaring people.
Neither truly get what the other person is about.
Falcone is about survival. He has put himself on top of the food chain. Batman eventually stops him, but needs to understand how criminals think.
Falcone *doesn't* get Bruce. He's right in pointing out that others have it worse than him, but he cant comprehend that this kid would dedicate his life to bringing down people like him....by throwing himself down the trenches too.
Really interesting dynamics here.
Not really, at least in this version Bruce had no real aim in his life everything was defined by the murder of his father and mother. I think everyone in Gotham got a little frustrated with the poor little rich boy saga of Bruce Wayne and Falcone is spelling out the reality.
Until Joe Chil got taken out by Falcone and Rachel gave Bruce some perspective he never thought about anything else. To a certain extent becoming Batman gave him a temporary reprieve of not having to process his grief for the loss of his parents. Prior to that Bruce was fixated on killing Joe Chill. They address this in Dark Knight Rises when Alfred explains to Bruce that he hoped Bruce would never come back to Gotham. Alfred always knew being in Gotham would give Bruce no peace or happiness becoming Batman was the only way he could function within Gotham, not as just an ordinary man. In fact, the real tragedy is that someone like Bruce Wayne could have made the world a better place he both had the wealth and power and was a good man.
This scene was never designed to show what the underworld thought of Wayne and his family but what was the catalyst for him to become Batman.
@hkr006 Chill lied to Falcone about Thomas Wayne's reaction when he was killed. There was no begging involved, really. Just a moment of panic when Martha had her necklace grabbed.
Fr he thought this kid was a being a punk & let him go and everything
@@SalemGhassanHanna That's right.Both Chill and Falcone lied.
Thomas Wayne didn't beg for his life.He tried to diffuse and deescalate the situation-which is a language,you could say, that guys like Chill and Falcone, of course,wouldn't understand.They just understand brute force,fear,intimidation,bullying and violence,they wouldn't grasp the idea of someone trying to calm down a situation using words.
Amazing comment. You distilled this interaction into its essence perfectly.
I like this scene largely because as ruthless as he is, Falcone comes across as practically human. He holds all the cards in this encounter, but he imparts a crucial life-lesson that helps form Bruce into Batman...as opposed to just blowing his head off(or giving the impression he's chomping at the bits to murder anyone who looks at him cross-eyed).
It's another dimension to the villainous portrayal that's more realistic, in my opinion; He understands the gritty side of life, and what it takes to claw yourself up as to those that aren't privledged or without connections by virtue of their heritege, what seperates Bruce from the element he'd tackle as Batman.
As a lifelong Batman fan, I recognize it as a sentiment to his lore that can't be understated.
Well, obviously Falcone didn't want to kill him or anything. He just wanted to teach him a lesson without being like a simple-minded brute. He could have killed him but it was more crueler to show him that he was right.
I suppose in a way, Falcone knew he was doing him a favor.
RUINED with a single "begged like a dog" line
@@joe3755 you're right. That line is so, so brutal
Oh yeah!
Falcone basically felt it safe to spill the beans because he under-estimated Bruce.
Nolan made it a nice and poetic twist, didn't he?
@@NikolaAvramov he didn't fear him
People should appreciate this movie a lot more, Bruce's character arc in The Batman is really similar to Batman Begins: his realization about what drives criminals, learning to control his rage, seeing that good and evil aren't so simple and finally becoming a symbol of hope to inspire Gotham.
I do
The Batman is trash and in no way comparable to this. But that's just my opinion. RP had no character arch. Just randomly sees people almost drowned and a lady that isn't afraid of him and suddenly sees that he needs to be more than a symbol of fear and vengeance. Not a thing in that movie made sense realistically. Horrible cast horrible writing and horrible directing.
@@justinrisen1929 your take is awful. They literally build his character arc with so many little details. The reminders that he needs to do more as Bruce Wayne, his unintentional inspiration towards riddler and learning his parents weren’t perfect teaches him to stop defining himself by revenge and anger and instead to help by seeing how destructive his path is through the character of riddler. The film isn’t trash and it makes perfect sense realistically, you obviously payed zero attention and have no right to judge the film. “Horrible cast, horrible writing and horrible directing” yet it’s one of the most praised comic book films in the genre. Your judgment and takes are what’s horrible, not the film. Begins and The Batman are both fantastic and successful films and that is the reality.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who realized the Batman took inspiration from Batman begins
Did anybody else notice that when Falcone pulled the trigger and said "BANG!", Bruce did flinch slightly? Only goes to show that despite walking in and trying to show how brave he was, not just to Falcone, Alfred, Rachel, or to all of Gotham, but especially to himself, Bruce was afraid, because what the crime lord said was true, he had never experienced the true ugly side of life.
I think Bruce went in to confront Falcone at the restaurant because he believed Falcone wouldn't try to pull anything there (too many witnesses). But once Bruce realized that all the patrons were either too afraid of Falcone/in his pocket, it was a "things got real serious" moment.
Such a powerful scene, and what Falcone said was true. Bruce did have a skewed and somewhat naive viewpoint about the evils of the world, and he did think he'd seen it all due to his parents' death. Strongest quote from Falcone is, "You're always afraid of what you don't understand"
+Kobe Busia which leads right into the most terrifying force Gotham ever faces: the Joker. Unexplained, unpredictable, unrelenting evil
Kobe Busia
Yup
That's why Batman is a symbol criminals don't understand. Ras told Bruce that to conquer fear you must become fear and bask in the fear of other men.
K Lee
Which comes back at the end, when Gordon says "We get semi automatic guns, they get automatic. We get Kevlar, they get armor piercing rounds" Which leads into the Joker, a direct *reaction* to Bruce's action in the first movie of becoming Batman. What brilliantly written film!!!
Who Dat Ninja great point. They should do a joker movie. It would probably be rated r though because his childhood was very bad and abusive.
years later, the tables will turn...
Bridges will burn
and Butter will churn
@@jjlatinopedia what the fuck is this you dumb.
@@AV-jo3rp get out....
@@nailmontana1993 No
@@AV-jo3rp eat my shit
“You’ll always fear, what you don’t understand” This has probably stayed with me more than anything from any movie.
Tom Wilkinson is highly underrated. This, Eternal Sunshine and In The Bedroom are wildly different movies, and he played a different character in each, yet he nailed his performance in all three within the span of four years. Respect
Don't forget Separate Lies. It was the movie that made me a fan of his acting skills.
how about Michael Collins (2007) ?
The_patriot_General_Charles Cornwallis
Need to see RockNRolla, highly underrated with people like Tom hardy, Tom Wilkinson, Gerard butler, idris Elba and more
@@mahmoudosman6463 He was great in Michael Clayton as well.
At 2:00, the facial expression of Falcone is pure villainy, almost animalistic even. He truly is the embodiment of Gotham's underbelly; Cruel in nature, unapologetic, instinctively murderous. Tom Wilkinson as Falcone and Cilian Murphy as the Scarecrow are phenomenal in their haunting representations of Gotham's ugliness. Bravo!
shut up u weirdo this isnt an english essay
Tom Wilkinson just slaughtered the role of Falcone. What a memorable performance. RIP SIR
For me this is one of the best scenes in all 3 movies. When he explains the power of fear and pulls out that gun. That’s power money can’t buy. So true.
Rip Tom Wilkinson 😢
“You’d have to go a thousand miles to find someone who doesn’t know your name.”
First guy outside doesn’t recognize him.
He's almost certainly aware of the name, just not the face
Nice stolen comment
He does say name. The homeless guy probably knows who the Wayne family are, even if he doesn't know Bruce's face.
I know people who know the name Elon Musk Donald Trump Bill Gates but don't know their faces. Sometimes it's not about the face but the name
This is when the "Prince of Gotham" got his street education and street knowledge from. Got his head out of the clouds and down with the people and started seeing what was really going on in the real world. Lots of corruption and twisted men pulling the strings in society.
What I like is how he puts that to use when he returns to Gotham. It's brief, but during his initial scouting missions in the city he's wearing an old ball cap and a dirty hoodie... blending in with everyone else on the street.
I think of Watch Dogs.
"I thought I could fix a little girl's death, but instead it led to all of this - exposed lies, corrupted kings, a broken city. And me - a changed man. I don't look back anymore. I don't regret. I look forward. Everything is connected, and I'll use that to expose, to protect, and if necessary -- to punish." - Aiden Pearce.
The rise of a hero started with an inspiration from a villain!
Rocky.......Garuda??????
The words that rang the most were: “You’ve never tasted DESPERATE.”
That's the best way to build your superhero - make him look insignificant at first, so that when he becomes the hero we all know, we feel as great as he does.
The mocking and the beating aside, Bruce received a very valuable lesson here.
This scene is important because it convinces our protagonist that he cannot fight crime as who he is, Bruce Wayne. Bruce Wayne has something to lose and can be understood. Batman has nothing to lose and is a mystery. The things he has to lose, that anyone fighting the powerful who doesn't care about their own life has to lose, are the lives of those around them they love. This is the lesson he learns from Falcone.
A brutal dose of reality for Bruce sheltered his entire life even after his parents died
I dont know thy but this is one of my favourite scenes in the movie
because the punches it cracks me up
Because while his parents death have him motivation, this scene set the path for Batman. They won’t listen to someone who is part of the system, esp not rich naive Bruce Wayne because he didn’t understand the minds of criminals. So he left and traveled the world to understand the truth
You always fear... what you don't understand
This is the scene that really pulled me into the film.
Really wen they mushed his head
This is the scene that really pulled me into the film. Bruce's complete naivete and inexperience in contrast to Falcone's cold-blooded pragmatism. In actuality, Falcone was in a strange way a backhanded mentor to Bruce because it realized to play with the big boys, you've got to be willing to be unconditionally badass with no fear.
Tom Wilkinson is an extremely underrated actor. He's a career supporting actor. He was in Batman Begins (obviously) but also Shakespeare in Love and he was Cornwallis in The Patriot, not to mention so many other credits.
England has amazing actors …my dude
he was also in rush hour
Dope in Michael Clayton.
"This is a world you'll never understand aND YOU'LL ALWAYS FEAR... WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND"
the truth can hurt but it can make a man harder to face the harshness of life
... and this is why this is the best film of the trilogy.
This conversation covers everything needed for Batman's creation.
1. Severe Injustice & corruption in Gotham
2. Desire for revenge/catharsis for parents murder
3. Travel abroad to learn about poverty/simple things - to league of shadows
4. Using "fear" as device - the Bat
I find the psychological underpinnings displayed in this film and about Batman so interesting. After suffering from a traumatic childhood experience, he realises that he still is under a place of privilege. So to experience true stress, he strips his privilege away and lives among those who are suffering more than him, so he can learn, adapt and become the person he is destined to become.
This is the most powerfull speech in the movie. Falcone just pulled Bruce from his white knight fantasies into the real world without taking a breath
aygecko from white knight to dark knight.
What a fantastic actor :D
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Falcone might be a crime lord but everything he told Bruce was spot on.
Falcone is one Batman’s most underrated foes
Especially when he’s black mask
The more these movies age, the better they get.
Mr. Christopher Nolan took up the job of being a movie director.
He did his job really really well.
"Look around you. Theres two councilman, a union official, a couple of off duty cops and a judge. Now i wouldn't have a seconds hesitation of blowing your head off right here in front of em. Now thats power you cant buy. Thats the power of fear."
My favorite lines from the entire movie.
Back in 2005 I went to the movies to watch "Batman Begins" and "Sin City" back to back... and in both movies, the villain (Falcone & Senator Roark) make the exact same speech to the hero (Bruce & Hartigan), pointing a gun at them and saying that they could just shoot them and no one in the restaurant/hospital would do anything about it, and that this is what real power is.
I felt like I was having the worst déjà-vu ever while watching the second movie ^^ weird coincidence how similar these 2 scenes are, considering that one couldn't have copied it from the other, what with both films coming out at the same time, just a couple weeks apart.
@@randallflagg3700 interesting
I’m not afraid of you
"I could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue and not lose any supporters."
>Ends up getting 13 million more votes than previous election.
Trump and Falcone are masters of fear.
Not to get political but that Falfone line made me think of that Trump quote.
You ever notice Bruce got his life lessons from his villains - training on intimidation from Ras, lessons on what he has to lose from Falcone, then later about psychology from Joker and strength of will from Bane, to lesser extents.
“You’d have to go a thousand miles to meet anybody who didn’t know your name.”
*Bruce will remember that*
Falcone gave Bruce a good lesson in life. Up to later he hasn’t tasted desperation. Its amazing how much you may bend or even break your morals if your starving to death or about the freeze to death and what you will do to survive.
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No gun, I’m insulted 😂 why do I love that line so much
Great acting from the bad guy. Makes you really hate him. Means he did a good job
More than any scene in the trilogy, this one makes his growth and accomplishments as Batman seem so much more monumental. Good shit.
Actually this is the best scene of the Batman begins....the real motivation to Bruce Wayne
and the need for a secret identity
I agree
This has to be one of the best scenes ever in any movie. Phenomenal dialogue, sound design and acting especially from Tom Wilkinson. The Sound Design when he says 'Begged' then the BEAT before he says it again, is just Film-making at it's very best. Up there with the Pacino/De Niro Heat Scene.
Cyrus T Hans Zimmer was the perfect match for this trilogy. His composition, his music went great with everything.
The interesting thing about this scene is that even though people say this scene was humbling for Bruce, he STILL didn't get it.
Falcone told him that he hadn't thought through what he had to lose, and that he would always fear what he didn't understand.
Of course, this inspired Bruce to don the mask and fight fire with fire, but then Gotham's underground spat out an adversary that used that tactic against him - The Joker. There's a good argument to be made that The Joker likely wouldn't have even done what he did if not for Batman - Batman created his own adversary.
Bruce didn't understand The Joker or what he was trying to do, and had to be told by Alfred what The Jokers goal even was, and then The Joker ended up killing Rachel, which caused Bruce to hang up the mask for 8 years.
Then, in The Dark Knight Rises, Bane lamp-shaded Bruces lack of understanding again when he pointed out that Bruce had merely "adopted the dark." From the very beginning, Bruce tried to use their tactics against them, but ultimately didn't understand the vile underbelly of Gotham.
Falcone, even after Bruce had put on the mask, was proven correct. Bruce hadn't thought it through, lost Rachel, and The Joker ended up winning. I feel like this whole exchange has a deeper meaning in the narrative of the trilogy, and actually does more than just set up Bruce becoming Batman.
"This is a world you never understand.
And you always fear what you don't understand."
This was the best Nolan Batman movie, imo.
@@mr.x1493 Even better than Dark Knight, I'm sure you'd agree. 2nd movie was great and Heath Legder killed it with Joker but towards the end the plot got a little cheesy. I just didn't buy it when the people on the boat refused to blow each other up to save themselves just so Christian Bale could grunt *_"THEY"RE NOT... HRGH... LIKE YOU... EEGH..."_* .'Begins was a lot darker and more fun to watch, IMO. Scarecrow was really well done, too.
BEST Batman movie ever.
Interesting fact: On the original unedited version of the script, after Falcone tells Bruce about his parents killing, they originally planned for Bruce slowly getting up and walking away, with falcone then inquiring: "Where are you going?" to which Bruce responds, "I have to return some video tapes".
I understood that reference
@@toneswing6 I love that movie
I like how Bruce's mentors are basically all the villains in this films
The passion of this movie from the cast to the creators is clearly shown and it's hysterical. Professionalism at its finest. Best hero movie for me.
For what I've seen so far.
This is actually the underlying conscience problem of Hamlet in Shakespeare's play. He's not afraid, but he's angry, but he needs to be fearful to have an effective strategy, so it leaves him feeling impotent but at the same time, more powerful. It's really bizarre how close this is to Hamlet.
And thus the prison escape scene from the third movie where he needed fear to escape.
Tom Wilkinson is British but you would never guess in this movie, such a underrated actor.
Even today that line stands true “You always fear what you don’t understand”
favorite scene in all the Nolan Batman films.
my favourite scene from the movie.
tom wilkinson gives me the shivers.
No wonder Alfred had him declared dead. The last place anyone saw him alive was outside the hangout for a high level mob boss.
This is KINO. As a man that loves cinema and has watched many artistically "sound" films, I can tell you this, this scene has a lot of artistic merit. Not only is this scene integral to Bruce's character, this scene is CRUCIAL in the trilogy
The gravitas that this scene gives to this trilogy can't be under estimated.
Bruce : I came here to show not everyone's afraid of you
Falcons : only those who know me kid.
What a badass line and true to people who are pure evil not avengers kinda evil
Such an impressive performance from Tom Wilkinson here,. Great actor.
this reminds me a lot of the restaurant scene in the godfather
“You’ve never tasted desperate.”
Dang, that actually hit me hard.