Ranchers VS Developers - The Battle For Montana's Future 🇺🇸
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2022
- There is tension in the American West--especially in Montana--between ranchers and developers. In this video, we meet a man named Trinity who grew up ranching and transformed into a real-estate developer. Join me as we learn from this well-informed local who understands both perspectives of this complex situation.
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Don’t sell any land or give an inch just ranch on!
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We need to protect our farm and ranch land. Once it's gone we can never get it back. You would rather see a developer destroy our fertile farm land?
We’re ranchers and farms can make some kind of money bye CZcams or make the ranch in dud ranch we’re city fork and urban people can live your life for a week or see video
@@brylonhanna *where; *buy; *dude; *folk
I agree Steve but it ain’t gonna happen.
GREED is a powerful thing.
@Nikolai Ninja Red herring
@@jesuslovespotatoes it for those who may want both world part of the ranch life and try to make money if i were to own a ranch and need money own band clothing or youtube it small pennies but every little helps or try to do 4 to 5 cuts of grass sell most of 5th cut
The Government used to consider farming and food a national security issue. After selling the largest pork production company to China awhile back I’m not sure that is still the case. No foreign entity should have the ability to buy large land plots or production companies that creat our foods..
There should be laws against this. China would never sell the US their land.
Bro they literally made all the pork workers come in at the highest COVID rates when we didn’t know shit and work for no raise or anything. USA is a stupid country but they aren’t giving up meat. China just paid more to these companies that are loyal to the dollar not their country.
That's why Trump prioritized Farmers during his 4yrs and being from the city I couldn't understand why at the time BUT NOW I see....
China is dying.
@Nikolai Ninja That's crony capitalism. Real capitalism wouldn't let your politicians sell out your industries and your land.
My family lost our property that'd been family owned for 100yrs after being sued as a public nuisance for baling hay at 5am. A friend lost his 250yr family owned hog farm after being sued because of the smell. Turned out both complaints were made by land developers.
Thank a lawyer
Don’t leave your land fight for it like a real mam
@@MasterBlaster-nz3uv Thank the corrupt state/local politicians who pass laws that allow developers to file law suits. If they actually cared it would be illegal for someone to file a lawsuit about a farm operating in the same way it already was when that developer chose to buy the land next door. Instead the politicians are passing laws that give all the power to the developers because they get rich from both the legal business ties and illegal kick backs.
yup, the newbies that move in cannot stand to actually live near a real farm!!! the irony is rampant.
gotta love these yuppies that wanna act country because they see a movie or something. history repeats itself and people will always do these type of things if there is money to be made. unfortunately.
As someone from the east coast I have the upmost respect for our ranchers and farmers in the west/midwest. Truly the Unsung heroes of our country. THANK YOU
You're one of the few, thank you
Montana resident born and raised lived on a farm for part of my life. However this tears me apart, 750 acres very minimal livestock supplemented by oil just sitting on land when real residents are being forced out of their home. This fails to highlight the real tension between locals and developers not just ranchers. Most locals have zero problems with ranchers it's the Microsoft executives buying everything and jacking up prices.
Amen. Listen to these urban democrats crying about peasants trying to make a living and a family. God is about to unleash his fury on these demonic souls. I’m going to start buying up ranches and subdividing them for the common people. Democrats are sick. Exposing rich greedy insiders is going to be a personal hobby of mine in the future.
Ag property tax rates create this entire problem!
Happened to Colorado 40 years ago.
Look at Jackson Hole WY.
It ain't just "Microsoft Executives"; it's business tycoons. And the GOP keeps encouraging it and relax laws that allow stripping the land of resources for profit. And places like Montana, Wyoming, Idaho; they keep voting GOP, and it keeps getting worse.
At this point, you're just shooting yourself in the foot and blaming everyone else but you and your voting habits.
Will never forget my time living out there. Forget what bar I went into. Had a gun mounted behind the bar with a sign that said 'we shoot foreigners'. I was obviously knowledgeable to know it meant Oregon/Washington/California residents.
I wanted to move to MT 34 yrs ago when I was done with college as a single girl at 22. I wanted to build a single room cabin and work at anything that would keep me there. Montana seemed like the last frontier and wild place left in the continental US. I wish I had done it. I’m 56, and I still want to do it, even if it’s only part-time in my SUV with a tent and bear spray in the milder weather months. Chase your dreams when you’re young, before life’s paths take you somewhere else.
Yep, should have done it. But, better late than never! Things are changing fast. I should have done it 30 years ago too. Were here now though. Don't regret it.
@Erikk Hyndman I grew up in northern WI, lived in the SF Bay area for a few yrs, family moved to Arkansas. I married, had 3 daughters, and lived in the same town for 25 yrs, dreaming of deep snow, mtns, roaring rivers. Fell in love with the Buffalo National River in NorthWest AR, kayaking under its massive bluffs. Husband retired to start something new, we moved with 2 daughters to Golden, CO. It’s still too suburban for me, summers still too hot, mtns too far away. I’m a Mtn girl at heart; it never leaves you. Starting over somewhere new when I was 50 was really hard, but it can be done. 40 isn’t too old.
I was born in southwestern Alberta 40 miles away from the Alberta Montana border where the prairies meet the foothills and then the mountains..Montana is by far my favorite state in the US reminds me of home..been fishing the rivers and hunting the mountains of Alberta all my life and loved going to Montana to fish the Missouri River..great people and beautiful scenery in an amazing state. so if your luck like me stay where you r and if not get in your car cuz it's time to move....peace out from Alberta........
To late now not the same when you're young.
I had the exact same life experience! Dreamed of being a cowboy in Montana, never did. Love the life style! Chase you’re dreams or wish you would have!!
I disagree with the comments regarding new folks WANTING to adapt to the Montana (Colorado, Utah, Idaho, Dakotas) way. My family has been in 3 locations, and every single place has been changed for the worse, by the "new" residents wanting and succeeding, in changing them. The easiest target is Colorado, a massive swing in a super short time frame.
100%. Can’t stand them moving to Texas. I’m a contractor and when I deal with these people for work at their homes they take everything here for granted and adopt 0% of our traditions and have watered down our culture and fast. They brag about where they left as well, that’s very weird to me I might add. They’re also all democrats, they bring it up about our politics in small talk and I’m blown away. Sick lost citizens they are and have been and will continue to be. There it’s said.
This.. I've been in SW Montana for many decades now, and seen firsthand the changes, impact on our lifestyle. As with many places, big money has had a profoundly detrimental effect on what makes my state unique, rough around the edges but beautiful on the skyline. I'm just very thankful I got to enjoy it before all this happened. Those experiences cannot be bought or re-created, just remembered.
yeah i also thought that was a bit BS when he said that. "adapt" my ass. oh they'll adapt alright. they'll just make sure they help vote for politicians that will push for more development, more targets, walmarts, starbucks, and crowds of people and boom, they adapted 😂
i do agree with another thing he said about those who are more "woke", politically correct, liberal, tend to be more vocal/outspoken (which in turn has lead to them getting their way) than ranchers who don't speak out for themselves much. that needs to change more often.
I am worried about the future for my state.
My family is from Butte; over 100 years of family history there after coming from Italy and Ireland. My father is Irish and Italian (Buttians should know). I always dreamed of having a place in Montana but the current housing market has made things crazier than I have ever imagined. I'm born and raised in Los Angeles myself and feel for the people of Montana having to deal with a bunch of Californians and their ideals ruining the natural beauty and way of life in the state.
I love being a native American raised and born here in Montana and love seeing these sights everyday♥️ Love watching your videos Peter 👍 God bless you all
It's your land, never forget that
@@eugenechester8748no it’s anyone’s who wants to live there they immigrated there long ago
@@flyy1006 sure, Native Americans may have immigrated there 20-30 thousand years ago but they were still the first to live there and call that land their home. They were wrongly robbed of their lands they lived on. People can still call something their own. By your logic; people could just go on anyone’s property and say they are going to live there because it’s anyone’s. Let me come to your property and live in your yard, should be quite alright with you. Unless you’re deadbeat living in a dumpster. Usually people who don’t own property or land have zero knowledge or feel what it’s like
Can't imagine what this place will look like in a 100 years. Housing everywhere. Hope the locals are able to find a way to keep it looking like this. Very interesting to hear about Trinity's experiences. Peter, keep up the good work as it's wonderful to see so many different people and lifestyles and yet we all have the desire to live at peace with the world and simply do our thing.
One can wonder, but my guess is a place like Montana will never get overpopulated even though some areas will see quite a few newcommers. Overall the younger generations most likely will keep on gathering more in the bigger cities than moving out to rural areas
and Montana becoming a shitty blue state due to californian invasion messing up everything they touch...
@@Tonyx.yt. why don’t you just buy those properties for yourself then maybe y’all wouldn’t have that issue. Y’all are the problem not the out of state people. Y’all are getting greedy.
I hope they're able to preserve it too because where I live is a disaster, imo. We used to have so many Farms, Farmers Markets, & roadside seafood and produce stands that grocery stores were truly unnecessary. The north has been moving south for decades. They bring their money, their ideals, and their way of life with them. (We actually call certain areas here Little Ohio, Little Jersey, & Little New York) It's all well & fine... It's not the people per se, the people are great. I don't even think I had a single "local" friend in school growing up... It's just that, as stated in this video, once it's developed (destroyed) you can't get it back. 😟
After a couple winters. I'm sure some will sell.
That sky behind them and the way they dress is a post card perfect. I am loving these ranching videos.
I’ll take the sky. But you can keep the clothes. Lol 😂
A guy from california bought our ranch in Montana and promised to never subdivide on paper. His fancy lawyer helped him destroy the ranch by 5 acre parcels. Complete slime bags.
Every last one of them!
When I was 13, my family and I took a trip out west. Montana was one of the states we went to. I was amazed at the landscapes I saw. For people who aren't from there, they have to see it to understand.
I have always wanted to go back. Either Montana, Utah, or Wyoming are where I have my sights on. I know nothing about ranching or cows, but I would be willing to learn. I've been working hard my whole life.
💯 pictures and videos can’t capture the vast beauty of Montana
I was 12 or 13 my first visit out west. I’ll never forget Montana. I’ve since traveled quite a bit and still think Montana is one of the prettiest place in the country.
The same thing is happening in North Texas too. Farmer’s and ranchers are being pressured to sell their land by developers and even city councils. Instead of relying on family farmers and ranchers we are now relying on government owned farms and ranches.
And how many farms and ranches are owned by the government exactly? 🤔
Now that they know how to make lab meat they won’t need a ton of massive farms anymore.
Government owned?? Name one! It Big republickkon corporations!
" They brought their ideology with them from where they didn't want to be in the first place"
So true.
Great content. Could have easily watched three more hours of this.
Makes me wonder what native tribes lived on this land for thousands of years and how the US homesteading program helping to colonize native land and lead to further extermination.
@@Cupofgo You do realize that the red men came from war tribes, right? To act like they are inherently innocent for being non-white is intentional distortion of history.
@@Cupofgo They no longer had murder an enslave each other.
@@Cupofgo you are the ideology we are talking about
You mean brought their ideology of preservation and conservation and advocacy to protect the air, land, and water?? Their ideology ALSO includes human and civil rights! Superficial thinking. Their ideology DIDN'T cause whatever problems existed where they were.
Not that Yellowstone is the most accurate depiction, but one of their quotes resonates with me "at some point, people stopped living with the land and started living on the land"
Long live the cowboys
Native Americans always lived with land
@@mikeratkowski3506 natives were not always the nicest people in the world either. They Fought each other and killed many other natives. It wasn’t all sunshine and strawberries before the Europeans came here
Peter.
I’m 19 and i’m from France.
Your videos, i mean the testimony of locals in your videos are so priceless !
Thank you so mich you’re making a dream work, i would even say dream life !
Nicely done. We are going thru a variation of this in Idaho. We natives are getting pushed out on so many levels. I am considering, after a life time in Idaho, of moving to Wyoming, We looked at Montana seven years back but at the time it wasn't going to work for us. Now....I cannot stand back any longer and watch the place I've known for almost all my life be changed and destroyed.
That’s what most real Americans don’t realize that they can’t just keep fleeing to a different area of the country because they are trying to destroy real America and the only way to save it is for Americans to stand their ground and fight like their forefathers did or it’ll be gone forever!
I left two years ago..
How are people just up and moving without remote jobs, to small town that operate a lot on old history with each other? Average income is low, Property cost is high, and without having a reputation or people you know in the community isn't it a huge risk?
That's why I can't go back to Montana. It's been destroyed.
@@beavisbrowne3497 we left Idaho two years ago too 😞 Moved to Northern Arkansas
Peter, IMHO your series on the ranchers and the border are your best series! I haven’t watched your overseas videos but I think I’ve watched most of the ones in the USA. My most fav was the sheriff in Texas but all are spectacular! So TY!👍
It's great, but I think the Amish series was the best one. It was so epic.
My family is from Valier, what my grandparents had is gone. I live in eastern South Dakota, I am feeling the squeeze here. They aren’t just taking farm land, they are cooperating it and building cookie cutter homes on it. It’s disgusting!
❤ My mom is from valier and is back now. Very different form how it used to be.
@@EShopHero the panther still remains ❤️
@@MedicineRootsLPC Yep. Tracy actually recently sold it. I think she's helping out her husband Greg with his shop.
@@growinglifeorganic940 the government can take your land though, if they deem it as a necessity for the town's growth
Maybe america should adapt denser neighborhoods and cities so this wouldn’t happen.
Just wanted to say Thank You to any Rancher or Farmer who may read this for doing what you do. God Bless You All!
Farmers and ranchers across this country from California to Tennessee to Vermont, are experiencing the same thing.
People don't realize that what's now Silicon Valley in California was once orchards, farms and dairies. People were forced off their land and out of their way of life because they could no longer afford to stay.
Friends I have that live in what was a rural area of California 40 years ago is now tract housing as far as the eye can see. They wanted to sell their home and move to Boise, Idaho. Real estate in Boise was no cheaper than what they had in California to get something comparable, so they decided to stay in California.
Anyone that stays in commiefornia were dropped on their head
Excellent!!! Thank you so much for the series. I am 4th generation in same homesteaded property. That guy is right - we had spiritual connection to the land. We were forced to sell when our mother died and siblings were not able to carry on. Hard to describe the connection we had to that specific land - just being on any land isn't the same. Emotional roots go way deep. A lot of times, inheriting families can not afford to pay the estate taxes without selling or buying other family members out and still making enough money to live on. In the end, it ends up in corporate hands who have no regard to maintaining historical culture. Makes me so sad to see these mega corporations, other countries buying land, or ultra rich like Bill Gates buying up most of the vacant land. As an example, there is an area in the middle of the desert in Arizona that the Saudi's own. They grow alphalfa (sp) on it which is a water rich crop - they drain the aquaifer with that kind of crop - and then they send the harvested crop back to Saudi Arabia.
@JM, it’s why families MUST plan carefully for the inevitable.
@@MTknitter22 Thanks for response. In our case, my inheriting siblings and I could no agree on how to go forward. So in the end we all lost something so special.
not to mention the relatives buried there
Been living in Bozeman the past 3-4 years to go to school. Even as an out-of-stater for such a short amount of time, the development is moving at a breakneck speed. I’ve been working thru the university to help preserve the potential for farming in the valley, and the hurdles are immense. Really hope the area can find and develop a sense of balance.
like i saw in a viral youtube video about montana, bozeman aka boze-ANGELES. sad to hear that charm, western culture montana has is going away. hope i can visit the state before its beautiful landscapes are all overrun with suburbs and big city environments..
Once the Californicators discover a state they flood into it with subdivisions and crap tons of money leaving the original residents with no hope of ever affording the American dream. Just look what happened to Washington, Oregon, Arizona, the list goes on. All overpriced, crapped out, homeless and crime everywhere. Eventually all 50
States will be overrun as this cycle repeats. Then you ask, where will people flee too?, when there is nowhere new to move and ruin.
Blame city council. Once you listen to them you understand they don’t care about open space, ranchers or locals. They are more concerned with DNC platform talking points
They are MF….
our government is tyrannical
Our place is 35 miles from the nearest town with a gas station, clinic, and grocery store. It is also 90 miles away from the nearest city. Kind of saves us from infringement by developers. No utilities except for electricity if it’s run to your place. It’s a 300 mile round trip to cut firewood for heat if electricity goes out for a day or two in the winter. So we are always prepared for most situations. Extra gas on hand, generators, making sure the cistern is filled with water. Just is what it is. My biggest pet peeve is out of staters driving around on our land and when confronted and told they are trespassing they get all offended. I ask them where they live, they ask why. I say, so I can come over and drive around their yard. End of discussion.
But you have internet…
@@cd5433 Only by satellite which is spotty. I get better internet service using my iPhone
@@ConservativeVet84 ok I thought you meant you didn’t have service my bad
I would love to visit a ranch….I have never been to one!
Thanks for this. My family has farmed in Bozeman for 6 generations. Our hearts break at the development. And it’s not easy for anyone to want to take up the farm like he says.
6 is the most . that is a long time.
6 generations huh? So y’all were the ones who came and displaced the natives living there can’t feel bad for you at all.
@@matthewreyes2401 I'm a 5th generation rancher. Flathead native, so yes it is possible to be 6th gen farmer without displacing natives.
Stay strong! Bozeman especially has fallen prey to big developing and all of the additional community changes that follow. Tough place to continue your family's tradition, but stay strong! Big ups to all 6 generations for keeping the farm alive.
There is way more to it than what youve been taught..lived up there 5 yrs n knew some natives..besides..they actually came across the land bridge from europe n asia some 15-20k yrs ago..we have their blood..n they ours
Peter, another Monday Morning indulgence. 2.15am here and well worth the time. I just couldn't wait until daylight to see it. great story this week. BEAUTIFUL but harsh country. Wouldn't like to spend 24 hours there in Winter. Thanks Peter, another winner.
What a great comment Pita. Good luck this week! 🙂
I live in the mid-west and have been traveling out West to MT & WY hunting for every year for 25+ years. I get visibly emotional every time I’m there. I’ve traveled all over Europe and the Caribbean and I can promise you there isn’t anywhere in the world more beautiful than MT or WY!
🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ I lived in the Midwest and have been all over Montana and Wyoming......Alaska is absolutely 1000 times more beautiful in every single way
Except maybe Alaska! But I get your point!
I can think of a lot of places more pretty than fuckn Wyoming lol
I don’t know the Baja California ocean coast is pretty beautiful and San Diego, La Jolla
AWESOME!! been following Trinity and I knew about his ranching but did not realize his hand in real estate development. He is right about "newbies" moving into the community. Happened to me in a small town in Massachusetts.... got priced out and had to move. Now that small town is yuppie-ville, and overrun with totally entitled arrogant, demanding jerks!! (I know cuz I still work there).
Southie ? Lol Massachusetts is a complete liberal dumping ground nowadays. It’s insufferable living here. I can’t wait to leave.
We have a ranch in Wyoming, 80 miles south of Jackson Hole, we are under same pressure
It's sad to see it happening to the Star Valley area as well. The amount of private jets flying into the Afton airport is absurd now. You'll also see the Bronze Buffalo Club shuttling rich folks all over the place. It used to be mostly a pit stop for people traveling to visit the Jackson Hole or Yellowstone area. Now a lot of those people decided they like it and want to move there from one of the coasts or build a huge 2nd or 3rd home that's only occupied in the summer. Fortunately the winter drives a lot of people out for 9 months of the year lol.
I recently bailed on Sheridan for the same reasons. Intended to finish my life there
Same issue in Georgia. My father grew up in a very rural county that got overgrown so he raised me in the next county over. That county is now overgrown and I'm raising my children in the next county over from where I grew up.
My grandmother lived in Snelleville, GA. I visited there several times a year until she died. In those 19 years, that place grew at the most rapid pace of anywhere I had ever seen. I remember talking about the growth way back then.
I also grew up in Georgia. I lived in Cobb and Gwinnett. Glad I moved to Alabama in 2008. DOT putting in the median on Stone Mountain Hwy from Stone Mountain to Snellville was the last straw for me.
We have the same problem in Alberta. We have a predatory realtor who goes and checks on the taxes on quarter sections and bigger. In my county you don’t need a permit to sell up to four 4-acre lots. So he keeps track of all the places who are behind on taxes and convinces them to sell those 4-acre lots. Driving through here can be depressing because you see all these “ranchettes” everywhere. Then he pounces on them next time they’re struggling and gets them to sell quarter sections at a time.
Can’t stand the guy!
Which county?
Be sad if that guy got lost in the woods
It's not predatory, it's capitalism. It's offering an opportunity. Sometimes I low-ball people who are selling their vehicle. I'm not predating on them, it's an offer. If they don't accept it that's fine, I don't need their vehicle, but I don't know their situation and some people are desperate and if they are at least they have an offer which is better than no offer.
This seems to happen all over the world this happens in Jamaica too
It’s a sad situation. I lived in Colorado for 6 years. It was a struggle between the cowboys and city slickers. I worked in law enforcement and I had a front row seat to the conflict. I hated seeing the land being sold and developed.
These make me quite sad. I grew up in Montana in the 80s as the son of a tv repairman. There was a mix of old and new that has changed forever. I had no idea things were so temporary.
I'm live in Idaho and can relate. I'll always be on the rural side of things. Much better people, culture, respect etc than what you would have in the cities
As a landowner I get the ties to the land. There is a connection that forms. It’s tangeable and the more time you spend in creation it fills you. After 25 years that feeling has grown into stewardship. You want to leave it better than you found it, and you hope those who follow you will have the same appreciation for it.
Peter should look into Federal reservoirs and Dams and where all the water goes. When the government gives a “heads up” to farmers that there won’t be enough water to farm, even after long snowy winters, one has to wonder what they’re doing with the water they’re damming up?
It’s going to the cities
Better yet, how is it that we're having record amounts of water leaving reservoirs when we also have historical floods and storms in other parts of the US? Shouldn't our dams and reservoirs "catch" at least some of that runoff, or did our water usage somehow exponentially grow over the course of the pandemic?
@@vedrisca Let's build pipelines for the water, not just gas and oil...problem solved !!!Slam dunk!
@@vedrisca It seems logic to have some type of catchment,Here in Sydney AUstralia we have a dam built I think in 60s probally for 1 million people now today that around 6 million .past few years we had drought so water restrictions kicked in different stages ,think got get the people to be aware to conserve water even dam is full,Now we had 2 floods in 6 months dam is full ,so lots water wasted had be released,Talk is do we need bigger dam?raise the wall ?
Yes! Tell the story of where water goes in Washington and Oregon....where it is ok for Google to divert water to cool their servers but not ok for Klamath Basin farmers to have water rights.
Great video as always. Living remote and having lived all over the world, visiting 92 countries, I am always reminded, by your videos, that not everyone has an idea of life outside their little corner of the world. I think that's why I like your videos so much. Ie: you had no idea who Loretta Lynn was in a prior video; you mention the "creepy" game mounts in the hunting lodge in this video. I love how you embrace this experience as you learn about us who live so differently than you. I learn from your experience in that regard. Good channel. Thank you!
I just found your channel, I think you are doing very important work by showing the rest of us what is really going on around the country with your boots on the ground unbiased reporting... Thank You!
WOW, this ranching series has been eye opening, thank you for taking the time to make this.
This saddens me. To see such a beautiful place with beautiful scenery be developed and eventually over crowded. Such a shame!!
Same thing happened to a 300 acre cattle farm behind my grandmothers property. Sold and is currently getting ready for development of over 700 houses.
What's ironic is that a lot of people are moving into Montana to experience the "ranch life" but ends up turning it into downtown LA.
What a great series Peter! Who knew where you were headed next. I've been to Townsend for my best friend's funeral. His grandfather lived there and it was his favorite place to visit as a kid , so his folks had his service there. Brought back some fond and sad memories of watching but, I really love seeing your videos and the struggle going on in the west. Quote of the century "I want to live here but, I don't want anyone else to." Thanks for sharing!
I am a native siberian from Russia. I always admired Montana. One day I hope I will come there. The sights and the way of life looks similar to ours, even the relevant issues. Even though I'm living in Moscow working as an IT, I always love to come back home and help with the work for my parents who are ranchers, or simply to enjoy the life there. Traditional way of life is something we must save. I'm totally on the ranchers' side here.
And thanks to Trinity for showing everything and clarifying everything.
I’m an American from Montana who has spent time in Russia, and I love your country. I haven’t been to Siberia (yet), but the people I met in Russia are great. Montana has the mountains, while Russia has the great expanses of taiga forests, but the weather is similar, the people in both places are friendly, and I wish our countries would have closer ties.
People talk about how great and beautiful Norway is (where i'm from), but man... that view behind him at 7 - 9 minutes in. Those huge open steppes, with the huge mountains in the back. Just wow... I wish we had that! The exact feeling Peter is getting, I get. It's something primal, or instinctively inside, reacting when seeing it. Just like when your'e on top a mountain an looking out.
As someone who 3yrs ago moved to Montana from portland, I want the “gate closed behind me” to people that don’t want to continue the way of life that exists here. I moved here to live the way the people here live and I was born and raised Portlander. I like guns, I like hard work, and I love good people. All of those things are gone from Portland and all other west coast cities. I’m heavily tattooed city boy with a douchey “overland” truck and I’m out trapping wolves, fishing, exploring with people who grew up here and I have been accepted with open arms. What I’ve seen here recently is people coming from California wanting to put a stop to all the things people from here identify with as their culture. Don’t come here if you just want what you left, don’t come here if you don’t want to find a way to fit in with the people here.
agreed my friend!
You are rare, especially from the peoples republic of Portland. Most moving here from out of state, want to make this a blue state.
They think they can do it better this time.
Cry me a river.. because people like you move to find his"idealized"life,but you're still part of the problem- "because people want to move to Montana"..just like when people crowded beautiful cal.,or beautiful Oregon(your parents),etc..etc... You moved to find your nirvana..now where will your children move next,etc..so cry me a river, grizzly Adams( though I suspect you mostly sit on your couch watching porn hub).
INDEED...Montana native here.
One of my favorite series, Peter.
So many of us living in blue states that are being flooded with violence yearn for peace and the fantasy of living in a place like Montana seems like the answer. But the truth is, it is a completely different way to live and battling the elements and neighbors like bears and other wildlife plus freezing cold and blinding snow storms are anything but peaceful. in my opinion, you really have to be born and lived in places like this in order to truly understand what it takes. Perhaps if you're young (20s, maybe 30s) you can learn but for us older folks, it's just wonderful to watch and listen to these men and women tell their stories. God bless them and you and your wife. Thank you.
Grew up in indiana weather..montana was harsh but better somehow
@@suzieparis6821 Less humidity, probably.
And truth is, any major city especially dominated by tourism will have violence no matter where u move. So yea rural areas like Whittier in Alaska may be ur solution, but thats if ppl are willing to let go of the obvious conveniences they take for granted e.g. malls or shops nearby etc
blue state violence...lol
Its the same here in Wales and other coastal areas in the UK regarding properties . They move from big cities after selling their home having lots of money to buy properties pushing the house prices up beyond the price range of young local born and bred couples . They are of course outside some settle in with the community this complain about the noise of Seagulls or they try to change things they don't like . As always interesting and informative video another great series that gives me an insight into a world I would never see
It's an unfortunate reality when you live in a mountain town with an economy based solely upon timber, and a bunch of people from coastal cities come flooding in with remote jobs and you can't afford to live in the town you've spent your whole life in anymore
I thought you were going to say, "...and say they want to Save the Trees"
@@solosailorsv8065 the state I live in won't allow that, they'd rather get paid for timber sales than pay to put out fires
@@Northwoods208 Good Point, I get that. The coherent monopolization is what I was trying to point out. These PLANS are by the few, against the many and are VERY hard to stop, so just do it first, and keep the $/power with the Locals, I say
@@solosailorsv8065 if the locals would have been a more united front, things wouldn't be how they are getting to be now. All you have to do is say no to the California money flooding in, but people won't. They talk big, they act like the community matters, until someone offers them $600k for a house they bought 10 years ago for under $100k...and now magically after a few years of that, there's a bunch of Karens wandering around trying to change the area to their liking. If you don't like small town living and conservative family values, stay in the city, don't flock into the hills and then tell us we're wrong
@@Northwoods208 Sad but True. Btw, your Series is good reminder of Reality, wolf snares, felling and all Thank You !
I've been following all your segments on ranching and I thank you for same. They are objective, honest and very well done. Keep up the good work.
Learning so much. I have been digging into land ownership. Loving the rolling mountains and small towns.
Another awesome one Sir! Appreciate it.
"Land Ownership", in my diggings, is just a stack of Rights of Use. EVERY land in the USA has some Authority limiting what you can and cannot do, proven by needing Permits (Permission) from the true Owner, the government. No Title or Deed will list you as an Owner, just Tenant or Occupant. And unlike these guys talking about gold and oil, Mineral Rights are almost always owned by someone else, on "YOUR" land. So its really a Partnership with the local gov to develop the land to increase their tax revenue on the improvements after re-assessment. And that's OK. I just think they should be more upfront about the facts. Any bad-vibe from the County Zoning Office or anyone, I would not buy there...
I totally get this. I live in east Tennessee at the foothills of the Great Smoky Mountains and have for the 57 years of my life and I'm also a Realtor. I loved the way my area was 40 years ago, it was small town USA and was the best kept secret but not a secret anymore. All the small farms are almost gone and there's new subdivisions everywhere. I personally help people from California and New York move here which helps me and my family but I'm pulled. I totally understand why they want to be here, it's cheap, people are friendly, and it's beautiful but it's also starting to lose the appeal it once offered because it's not the same as it was 30 - 40 years ago. I don't know what the answer is.
I don't know maybe if people didn't want to move from NY or California. That'd be a good start
@@JM-sy5qv Agree, the folks I deal with aren't only moving here because of the things I mentioned, it's also because they hate what's going on where they live. From politics, property taxes, rights being taken away, and more I'm sure. Those same people love where they lived but they all say the same thing, it's not the same place anymore. I think they all gave up trying to fight for their freedoms and safety. It's a damn shame but it's getting worse. One was paying $2500 a month for property taxes and that was for what I consider and average home, nothing fancy. That same person bought a place on the lake here in east Tennessee and their property taxes for a full year was less than what they paid in one month in New York. They said moving here was the only way they would ever be able to retire.
@@Fred-zt6gf I've traveled all over the country and I'd have to disagree with you on this. Maybe a few people aren't friendly but those same people probably aren't friendly to anyone, locals or outsiders. All in all, I would say 95% of the people in the south are very friendly. The further out you get in rural areas, people tend to be clannish and don't trust outsiders but once they get to know you, they would do anything for you. I've listed properties in some of those areas and every time I put a sign up, someone would take it down. I finally gave up and quit putting signs on some properties. They didn't like the ideal of someone from outside of the area buying the property adjoining them but didn't want to buy it themselves. Not everyone, but I've noticed a lot of people from up north talk about how better things are up north and if you want to tick off a local, that's a great way to do it. They will ask you if things were so great there, why did you move here? They also don't like it when outsiders come in trying to change things. I don't think that's just a southern thing, pretty much anywhere you go where there's several generations living on or around the same property feel that way.
Good job, see, money is everything, you traded your small town lifestyle for ( Things), think on that for a moment.
Yes, think about it, people move to big cities to buy(Things) money is the worst thing that can happen to a man.
Wonderful video, Peter. As always, I come away marveling at the diversity of America in the truest sense of the word. I hope these big ranches survive and thrive. I think it is very important that we never become dependent upon other countries for food, energy, etc. There is tremendous comfort and great pride in knowing that we are completely self-sustaining as a nation.
This episode made me more aware of plight of the Native Americans.
Sounds like a little read on Russell Means is in order
Thanks Peter! Great video! i think we all have in our hearts a feeling of leaving the land as it was many years ago. Unfortunately it's not like that in these times. More people, more building.
Montana is second on my list of favorite states, preceeded by my home state of Alaska. It's heartbreaking to see developers moving into Montana, buying up pristine land.
Your camera tricks are improving, I love the spinning, then focus onto the subject. Very impressive and certainly another great video and story.
Thank you Peter!
Another great conversation! I'm learning a lot. Looking forward to the next one.
Love your videos. I’m hooked on watching your stuff. You do a great job informing people on your videos!
It's happening in Coeur d Alene, ID. It's so sad to see.
I'm unsure if my children will be able to afford the area they grew up in.
I remember small fishing boats on the lake and lots of logging trucks on the roads.
They have been replaced by million dollar boats and European cars.
The Prairie is disappearing and more and more of the past fades away.
This...
I drove a DHL van in CDA back in 2004-2005, recently saw the prices in town and I am just blown away. Such a beautiful town with friendly people, it is just a drag to see the area pricing out local residents that have been there for years. Seems like the same thing is going on in Liberty Lake, Wa area as well.
I moved to rural Ohio from CDA last year. It was my dream to live in North Idaho my whole life. My wife and I moved there in 2019 and found it was already too overpopulated. It’s getting worse everyday and is so sad.
We were some of the good ones that wanted to keep it like “old Idaho” but that tide has already turned and we were outnumbered. Moved to a small rural town in Ohio that no one has interest in. Have a small property in the woods with no neighbors.
@schecterc1exotic we did the same. Lived in Idaho for years but it's getting way to popular quick...not in a good way. We were on the rural outskirts of CDA. Ended up moving to rural AR. How do you like Ohio?
Yep 😞 My oldest son who is almost 19 said to us that he would not stay in North Idaho in the future, neither did our other 3 children at the rate it's changing. So we sold our property of 6.8 acres and house and bought 102 acres and house in rural Northern Arkansas. The culture is taking some getting used to(the south), but the kids love it.
Can’t get any better than these two videographers documentary expert professionals. Incredible . Thanks so much for your great work guys. Mucho Gracias
I’ve got friends I’m Montana, & it’s true a lot of the things he talks about . I put a bid in 2 yrs ago on 10 acreas , got beat out by a week time . It’s cold there & a different lifestyle. You really need to do some good research & check it out in all seasons. People move here & after the fist cold winter people leave. The neighbor next to the property I was trying to buy . The guy started building & after the first winter he left .
That is the hope!! Lol!
yeah, but he left after the damage was done...too bad you can't mow that crap back under the dirt and renew it back to land.
I really enjoy watching this series of ranchers. I’m a native Texan and I live in a small town that has ranches and farms for miles east, west and north of town. The closer you get to Houston metropolitan area ranchers and farming families have been selling their land for years.
It sucks. That's it. It just sucks.
If you drive up north through California the interstate 80 is full of development. Before it was a nice scenic view .
Just got back from a week and a half in Montana and man….the most beautiful state I’ve ever been to. What an amazing place
Thank you for opening new perspective ! Deep respect
thank you for highlighting the plight of these ranchers. I love this series. I will be so disappointed when it ends
What a great interview! I’ve come to expect this from you. Thank you for your interview skills! You rock!
We could use a bunch of these people in the upper peninsula of Michigan tbh. The population is aging out and the land is beautiful. It’s just as remote and you can hide development in the trees. Lots of ghost towns and houses from the industry that used to be there.
A problem started when corporations, owning land was legal, backed by the government. In reality only people have God given rights, along with the responsibility/liability, that goes with rights.
Makes no sense. It is the government that PROTECTS those rights. Government is just a collection of people. "God given rights" makes no sense. Anybody can say anything what god's rights are and what is not. Irrelevant. It is STILL people or community or government, that is relevant in constructing our system and framework for community.
Wow never thought of the land issue’s like this. Makes sense
Thank you for sharing this information
Great information to enlighten the people about this issue!! Thanks, Peter!!
Signed in just to to comment. I grew up all over the East Coast, but yearned for the freedom & natural beauty of the Wild West I saw through movies/documentaries. A year of hitchhiking after university with random events perfectly falling in place led me to explore Montana for a week. It is the most beautiful place I’ve been to on the planet. I bought a one-way plane ticket & started my life fresh in Helena (right next to Townsend). I knew every place you showed. There truly is something magical about that land… I recently moved away; but already regret it & am moving back. I’ll keep exploring the world, but half of my remains (if recovered 😅) will be laid to rest in MT.
Great video as usual. I live 1.5 hours from Townsend Mt and had actually just went through it a few hours ago. It's sad watching all the land get bought up and sub divided.
I was born and raised in Bozeman...fifth generation. Moved to Virginia City because they ruined Bozeman. So very sad.
I’d love to see a visit in January-February when snows blowing so hard you can’t see out your front windows!
Very informational video. Great way to showcase the different perspectives of Montana.
Thanks to the algorithm your channel came my way. Just want to say THANK YOU for telling the stories of rural Americans!
Nice to see some green pastures and natural clouds, looks like you've had some rain. Winning the war against geo engineering
I agree, I noticed the natural sky right away
Happening here in Florida as well. It's so sad. Just watched 50 acres of cattle pastures get turned into McMansions and strip malls.
Another incredible video. Trinity demeanor and insight were awesome. Great series. Beautiful land in Montana. Thanks again Peter
Peter, thank you for these videos. I have gained a better understanding and respect for the areas you visit and especially for the people you meet. I keep adding these places to my list to visit someday. Cheers.
I've lived all across Montana including not far from Townsend, I used to drive through it regularly for work and when the pandemic started in 2020 and the wave of migration started, I hate to say it but I hold a grudge against those people. I understand that this is America and you can live where you want but because the cost was so high to live there even with a job I had to leave and I haven't been able to live there since.. it's on my mind day after day and hopefully one day my feet will be back on Montana ground. I enjoy your videos but unfortunately, this one is too close to home and I could only watch about half of it. I sit here 2,200 miles away from a place I love knowing I should be there but I'm watching it on a screen, it's just too much to handle.
I am in Florida and they are doing the same here at a faster pace than Montana, and I hate them too. Ruined my state.
My family go back generations in Montana and you can feel the angst that locals have against the influx of the rich people. There is a big change, our Governor encouraged his rich friends to come out and life here will never be the same.
Funny that,- the natives had a bit of angst too when you lot all turned up.
Bit late to start complaining
There's just nothing like the sky that stretches Montana, Wyoming, and South Dakota. I live in South Dakota, traveled a lot to other states, as well as a few other countries, and I've just never been more at ease than when I see all that blue and clouds going over the rolling plains, hills, and mountains.
*Same goes for at night. There will be no lights or houses for miles, but you look up, and it's the most stars shining you'll ever see.
dang, also the further I get into this video. I've been working in restaurants my whole career. Doing something good tasting, locally sourced and open everyday in a place like Townsend sounds like a new dream goal for me.
I remember driving through Townsend a year or so ago. Beautiful sky and beautiful scenery in that part of the country. Apparently, they have good people there also. I wish them the best and I hope there is a well thought balance between ranching and development, and hope that it stays cattle country. Thanks to Peter for this beautiful episode!!! God bless!!!
This is actually a global problem, it's a fight not just for Montana's future but everyone's future, these are dark times.
@@AL-tl9mt It's also about the way we design our cities. New developments must be built more densely so that we can keep agricultural land and untouched nature around. This also can reduce our need of personal cars.
@@AL-tl9mt Also, over population.
@@AL-tl9mt No, it's globalization and it's a grand conspiracy.
a future world covered in concrete will be good for no one except the skaters :)
@@AL-tl9mt Money is a social construct, if you stop buying what they want you to buy they're do what it takes to take control of every other market... people say you cant fight fire with fire, you can't fight large scale industrialization with small scale self-sufficiency.
Don't buy a Tesla, Buy a horse.
Don't take out a mortgage, buy some land.
Don't sit and wait, take action... hard to do without money, would be easiest if single lol
Loving these series Peter! Thank you and your wife for the hard work you put in these👍🏼 have a beautiful Sunday!!
'we truly per she ate it'
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I just found your channel and I need more time in my day so I can watch every one of your videos. They’re so interesting!
thank you trinity for the great tour!
It’s not just there brother. That’s everywhere, especially here in Texas.
These developers can find a little hundred acres spot of land they’re gonna cut it up in little half acre spots and they probably gave three or $4000 an acre for the whole place and they’re selling that crap for 50k+ per ac.
They are putting stress on every community law-enforcement, water, every resource we have not to mention our struggling schools.
Those developers are just like leeches, once they suck every resource dry they can around here they drop off and go to the next state or county whoever has the most lax regulations.
These city slickers from Houston will basically buy anything and a lot of times sight unseen.
And the first thing they do when they get here they want to start citying up my country. They will move 10 miles out of the country and start complaining to the county commissioners where is the garbage service, where is the Internet, where is this, where is that.
Right, and crowing roosters and the smell of cow farts offend their pretty noses
+10000! I hear ya brother. Around here people want to move out into the country they have to sign a "Right To Farm Act" form. it basically prevents city folk from moving out here in the country and start bitching about the cows and pigs and the guy in the field cutting his hay until 10 P.M. They have NO IDEA what they're getting into.
We need to protect our ranches and farm land in this country. And support US ranchers and farmers. I'm a city born and raised (Boston) liberal-leaning independent who's agnostic and believes in protecting our rights (including the 2nd amendment). We may have more in common than you think. ❤️
I am glad you were able to connect with Trinity for your story. My concern is the west and east coast people moving into Montana and changing it. Just look at how Colorado has changed over the years
I continue to love your perspectives.
And watching this story, just those beautiful skies make me want to go travel Montana.
I have a bit of a different angle, more on what happens after all of these developments go up.
Over the past 6 years I've seen around 400 new homes go up around where I live. That in itself, I don't have a huge issue with.
However, 1/3 of those homes were purchased by large corporations, who then rent them out at nearly 2x what the mortgage value of the home would be.
So someone that could buy that house for maybe $1200 a month is now renting it at $2000. I'm pro business, but for any system to work well and work long term, there needs to be a check and balance to it. As of right now, there is no mechanism in place to create balance..
Thank you for pointing out a very important fact. The consequence of this fact is people are not able to even afford to rent a home so young people who may have stayed to ranch and build their own family dream are moving away. What once was a close knit community falls apart barely scraping by on seasonal businesses.
Je ne suis pas américain et je ne vis pas non plus dans ce beau pays; mais quand je regarde ce genre de reportage et les gens qui se battent pour préserver leurs cadres de vie, j'ai envie de partir les rencontrés et les rejoindres dans leurs luttes, avec les armes s'ils le faut.
Force à vous qui veuillent préserver ces beaux paysages et le mode de vies des fermiers. 💪✌️.
Great interview!! Well shot and edited also! Trinity is such a cool guy also... This is what is happening to rural America. And the value has always been the 'land". I hope generations form now, there is still land like this to visit. Many people don't know the sound of 'silence" or hearing an Elk bugle from miles away... I see both sides of the coin here...and there is no simple answer... Kudos to this man for his knowledge and viewpoint.
Glad to see this collab. I love Trinity’s channel.
Good morning Peter. While you are roaming the USA, do you plan on interviewing anyone of our Native American tribes? I love your travels and would be most interested in their views about American life thru their eyes. Thanks.
There’s an episode he posted a month ago about the Mescalero Apache Tribe, Title is Native Cowboys…. It touched on that a little bit, in case you haven’t seen it yet.
I think he said some weeks back that he is working on some Native contacts and would like to make a series on them this fall. Let's hope it will come through
This was a really surreal experience for me because I have been watching your videos on ranching and Trinity‘s videos and then one day you are both together! It was kind of a mind warp!! Super cool to see 2 of my favorite CZcams channels together! Keep up the good work brother! 👍
I'm so grateful for your ability to tap into the human behind the story. You're a true journalist, documenting the real life story of people most of us would never mind.
Tuesday’s our couple restaurants are all closed. All local businesses closed on sundays. Winters are long and hard , that helps keep the ones looking for commodities from moving to our location.