MIT Monkey Ballers build a plane for Red Bull Flugtag 2016
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2016
- Red Bull Flugtag is an annual event in which competitors attempt to fly a homemade aircraft off a platform 33 feet in the air. This year, Flugtag came to Boston and the MIT Monkey Ballers entered the competition.
Video: Melanie Gonick/MIT
Additional time-lapse footage: MIT Monkey Ballers
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"And I think most of it is just an excuse for people to make fools out of themselves in front of tens of thousands of people"
He nailed that part.
Foghorn Leghorn he did. too bad he couldn't nail that control line though
Say son! I like your style. I say I like your style!
WOW, a bunch of M.I.T. engineers got BEATEN by a group of Foam Board Model Airplane designers ! ! ! !
Goes to show book smart isn't the best. Hands on learning is the way to go.
Flite test and rotor riot absolutely crushed it , I'm not an engineer but something went very wrong with their plane
But he was humble . Not bragging like some
@@ewantheboat Elevator was full down on launch
@@kermitbearden7142 for extra lift perhaps ?
MIT educated and they don't know the difference between a glider and an airplane. LMAO
Makes one wonder about our future.
because a basic glider is waaay to easy and boring so you make a human powered plane?
Don't get it twisted, they're still smarter than you.
They aren’t smart asses though.
well, he was a computer science major..
in a world full of difficulties, Red bull makes the way for the few to get out and have some real fun along with the tens of thousands taking part as the spectators, being one in heart mind and soul, all for the joy and fun of it all. Being silly at the right time can be very up lifting to the spirit : This red bull event is just one of those right times.
"How many people can say they built their own airplane?" But it's not an airplane
Just like the fools he talks about, another fool making a fool of himself
What is it then?
@@truthhunterhawk3932 It's technically a glider.
The MIT team lost because of human errors, but their glider was by far the most advanced
using carbon-fiber base and 3 d printing techniques to build something that looks futuristic but flies like an army boot is not "advanced" it is "art"
We are MIT, and we take pride in 13th place.
pen mightygun wtf is your problem. You're probably an inbred lol
MIt is dum
It says at end of video u were disqualified
@@gchammertime1557 That's rough.
DSQ
It reminded me of Langley's launch of The Aerodrome from a houseboat on the Potomac in 1903. As a reporter commented, " “It fell like a ton of mortar.” (The Boston Herald suggested that Professor Langley ought to give up airplanes and try submarines”)
Hehe and Flitetest won and they are RC Hobby pilots 😂
They actually have been designing and building planes for years.
The guy claims that "our team is mostly made up of aerospace engineers" That makes it even more sad that hobbyists spanked them.
Haha the flight test guys are more than hobby pilots they live and breath the stuff daily. Plus they make a great product, im happy they won. However look at the lift that plane made on launch! If the tail stayed together they would have gone far.
DJB HSI
Yeah Flighttest scratchbuilds are always well done
This MIT team reminds me of an episode of Big Bang Theory.
Leonard: “Anyone know how an internal combustion engine works?”
Guys (in unison): “Yeah! Sure!”
Leonard: “Anyone know how fix one?”
All: (mumbling) “No. Nope. Nuh uhhh”
😂
Nailed it! Practical experience beats theory in the real world.
Difference between concept and practical is an engineer who builds, tests and tweaks.
good experience for MIT dudes. next time more CG calculation and less talking about all your planning.
Twenty four foot wingspan, four foot aileron. You, sir, were doomed to fail.
everybody trash talking MIT rn in the comments, these guys are gonna make it further in life then most of you.
If you had found an RC pilot, you would have flown that machine. When I saw the first part of the video, I said your center of gravity was off. On the day of the actual flight, you had absolutely no airspeed. That's why it went straight down. You would think that someone from MIT would know this.
im an RC pilot with 25 years experience building and flying, from the moment i saw that thing on the ramp i knew would be a failure!
angle of attack , elevator negative, not sufficient wingspan, airfoil too thick and so on!! and im not an engineer...
Jean Carton you should know more about the competition. Obviously it’s span limited. Of the problems you listed only one is relevant: the negative elevator angle. If you look up the current world record you’ll see it was basically the same design. That’s optimal for the given constraints. You should understand them before you comment.
@ Jean Carton
No you're not an engineer, thank goodness, because all those reasons are baloney.. except for the fact that the full flying stab was in the hard down position but you didn't catch on that the angle was too ridiculous to be intentional did you? It's not by design. Wingspan is irrelevant as long as there is enough area, esp. in these short glides esp. without turning, the airfoil isn't thick, what angle of attack are you referring to other than the elevator knocked out of whack?
“Everything in an airplane is pretty simple. It’s kinda surprisingly simple.”
Plane fails.
Surprised MIT Engineers could not do better. It is not too difficult or uncommon to launch a light weight personal aircraft off a cliff and fly successfully. It is done every weekend near my house by many adventurous flyers.
Outstanding shipmate. Press on. CV-63 USS Kitty Hawk Jan 1980 to July 1983. Couldn`t of said it better myself.
This is very inspirational🙌 Thank you MIT
I've seen bathtubs fly further at Flugtag. That was awesome.
Just watched this big lead up just to fail. Lol, MIT
I think the message of this video is to accept failure and step forward. To put things in practice and not stay stuck in theory. Then try to make an analysis of why the design didn't worked and how the solve the problem(s). The Wright brothers used the test-fail formula to invent the first successful airplane. Every corporation of aviation or automobile industry are constantly testing their prototypes before launching a new model to the market. For example, in formula 1 race cars engineers do computer simulations, wind tunnel tests and then try the cars in the tracks. This a fundamental part of engineering.
PS. Sorry for my english.
I think US engineers need more hands on experience just building things. Our ENG curriculum are too heavy in theory.
Finally! A non-idiot post with valid constructive criticism! Not sure why everyone else with no education feels the need to chime in on the gliders aerodynamics that they know nothing about. The problem is lack of breadth in the education. Fortunately for these students, this is one way they gained some of that breadth!
Yea, seems they had the idea down and a near solid build but of course with a FIRST build.. it didn't perform well. Just more training .. as like with an other art or project.
As an engineer I agree with you 100%. It is even worse now with the advent of 3D modeling and 3D printing. You have a generation of new engineers with no idea of how to actually make the things they come up with, meaning machine, mold, cast, stamp, etc. let alone how to dimension and measure anything. Every engineer needs to work with a machinist, assembler, inspector, etc. to learn the realities of how their pipe dreams are realized. Engineers are getting as bad as architects who are famous for making beautiful building designs which are structural nightmares to realize.
@@Pandainapandasuit They changed a critical factor, the Center of Gravity, and did not bother to look how that may impact key areas of the design other than the one item they were trying to address. That deserves a smack with a rolled up newspaper right on the snout.
My degree is in "Industrial Technology".. a mix of engineering and manufacturing.. It's a major that I think was perfect for me. As a freshman, I got involved in the SAE Design challenges, and helped build a Formula-style car. Near the end of the semester, as I was taught how to use a milling machine (well, taught enough to make it work and make parts), there were senior mechanical engineers coming in and didn't know how to utilize the machinery. This freshman was teaching seniors on the use of a milling machine.. Now, granted.. I did get my initial help from other senior level engineers that taught me early in college. I later went on to know more about milling machines, CNC machines, Welding, and woodworking.. and did get a bachelors degree from the engineering college I attended. It still helps me almost every day.
Getting in MIT is pretty much my life goal.
It’s been 4 years. Did you do it?
We also were racing in this comp. We were second and our team full of undegreed boys which only made plastic model planes before
they said that the other ones just make fools out of themselves but theirs went short than the other ones LMAO
once in a lifetime thing to do
he must not have got the memo about it being an annual event ....
they used an airfoil with a huge amount of reflex, a large chord, and so obviously not enough horiz. stab area to compensate, did they really expect it to fly properly at any CG?
NIce nose dive .I am surprised because According to every Hollywood movies or media in general people from MIT are like mythical beings who can more or less do anything. A simple glider built by mythical creatures from MIT takes a nose dive, i cant believe it
MIT lost to a high school in Arizona in a under water robot competition. Lol
This made me laugh so hard 🤣
So you didnt do well and you cheated?
what cant you get your plane back???
red bull destroys them after the event
red bull is a heartless monster but yet so delicious
To prevent people from entering the same craft every year.
@@divisionst06 the plane is already destroyed the times they hit water
Like Jared said, other idea is that people don't spend too much money using expensive materials *cough*carbon-fibre*cough* and taking the whole thing seriously. Most people come to see a not-sober dude essentially fall 10m at the wheel of a giant sombrero dressed as a cactus, and RedBull gets that !
There are also a lot of points given for "style", you're not going to win spectators of Flugtag with a functional design..
I'll bet your parents are proud of your "edutainment". I went to a city college and my design worked just as well as yours.
Did the controls to the stabilator fail? When they went off the ramp it was in the full nose down position. The plane never had a chance.
Old saying, "whatever glitters is not gold"...
One of the lessons learned? Redundant and backup systems..
KSP planes 1st lesson. Always make sure your center of lift is at least slightly behind the center of mass.
When I saw that plane initially take flight I thought the world record was about to get destroyed. Then the flight controls broke and it nose dived. Lol. Hope you all do it again and without incident. I've never seen any other team actually gain altitude going off the barge like you guys did.
Classical error. The Elevator is rigged in the wrong direction. You can see the Elevator commanding full nose down the whole dive.
Hahahaa engineers couldn't resist the sweet lure that is a broken machine you designed 😂😂😂
1:45 "Our team is mostly aerospace engineers I'm actually the only member who is not"
shows the funniest clip of a dude swinging up before plummeting to the water. I thought that's the guy who isn't an aerospace engineer. 😂
The fact that engineers don't understand the concept of Center of Gravity is astounding!
That looked like a well built plane. But clearly the CG was way too far back!
Tail flap did them in, set for a nose dive.
Have you guys learned a term called “initial velocity” before go to MIT?
Chill guys it's for fun and to practice there skills
Maybe also practice there grammar :)
Man it's an event where people go out and have a good time! Fools or not it's a good time haha. They were acting like it was a life or death situation.
Single point of failure! I want to see that wing design flying!
Hey is the root account for Athena still root:drroot?
This is awesome! Exactly why it's my dream to go here
very good!
Every serious airplane modeler can build better airplanes than these students.
Doesn't even matter though everyone starts somewhere. They just proved that at least they could gain 1 second of flight and have finished a build. It's not even unfinished... Its been made.. me neither u have a plane. Or even partially built
you need to make a bi wing bloop design slow flight speed with huge lift capabilities
why aren't you allowed to retrieve the plane?
some of them really flown ?
They make that same steel pipe in aluminum. Ridgid aluminum conduit, 1.25" OD
Why is it against the rules to retrieve your plane? what is the point of that?
cg forward!!!
This is why MIT is still a school.
pin heads didn't know the whole thing is a joke? They built an actual aircraft and couldn't fly??? why not just build a basic hang-glider?
Imagine if you will a not being able to get into a school that is highly regarded and you make fun of the folks that do get in.
@@1kalambre you salty
@@johnray547 not at all. Just pointing out the obvious.
WRECKED BY FLITETEST
You learn more in failure than in success. Good attempt MIT.
worth it
buildim brakeim buildim brakeim. that's what makes the world go round
"Our heads were getting too big...but we're MIT, we're going to keep doing this." ~ego
Insane the amount of work they put into an event where you're not allowed to retrieve your aircraft afterwards, and then of course they were about as aerodynamic as the swancraft when they tried. Seems like they should have got their concepts down better before putting so much work into this, but hey guess sometimes you need to learn the hard way.
this is what i dream of!
"How many people do you know who can say they built an airplane from scratch?" Well personally, 3 including myself... but i know dozens more through forums such as homebuiltairplanes.com, eaaforum, wingsforum and more.
Was that the community college version of MIT??
Wow, I wish I have the ability to design aircraft like this for school! MIT seems awesome, and it is one of my Top 3 I want to go to. Aerospace Engineering is not just my interest... it is my passion. Going to this school would really help me out in fulfilling this passion.
no, hobbyist beat these guys at building planes and those guys are called flitetest and it's sad to a bunch of MIT students beat by people with a hobby
The Internet Police Well, they won't be building little gliders later in their job and they aren't trained to do that. the flitetest guys have years of experience.
The Internet Police I love Flitetest! Their Flugtag glider dominated.
4:51 is when the nose dive fail occurs FYI
Doesn't carbon fiber and aluminum coupled together lead to significant galvanic corrosion?
Yes, but I don't think that would have been a huge impact in a one-time project like this. Titanium alloys would be safe in that case, but a lot more difficult to work with.
holy shit. I worked as an airplane mechanic with only on the job training for 3 yrs and could have told you that...
lol, all they brought?
The FliteTest guys out built and out flew ya.
It did fly 20-30'.
Well then!
trial and error...is the key to success
3:29 and Red eyes!
Rest is history
How could these knuckleheads mess the cg up? Best on what I see, this was probably one of the very best plane in the contest. They should have been given a second chance at the end.
MIT needs speed !
I always hate it when the people competing in flutag actually try
Parents pay for AP tutors, check. Parents pay for SAT prep, check. Parents pay for tuition, check. Parents pay the judges, oops.
is nobody going to talk about the ailerons
One of the teachers is getting fired in MIT.
they should make one shaped like a giant pringle little nose heavy longer then the pilot and glide as far as they can
MIT aero engineers - built an afroplane , look at the size of that tail , first look tells you this could not possibly fly
I also want to be an aeronutics and aerospeace engineer
That's why sometimes we should not think too much. 😂😂
Anybody can invent a stone said the Wright bros. Nobody brags about inventing the next new stone.
better luck next time!
How can you say you flew your plane when you never had control of it...it just dropped!
This tell a lot about MIT and official "science".
They should go splitting rocks.
aspect ratio too low.. angle of incidence way too high
gukakmakuk angle of incidence was fine, just not a large enough horizontal stabilizer.
That didn't look like a weak control point, it looked like a really bad cg
i found why yours dident win
so what you did was reinforce the tail with balsa wood you should have used a more durable material
why didn't they calculate wind direction and shit. wtf.
Everything looks good fun and dangerous, but the dynamics and netting purpose ...
33 feet ion the air? Ok that confirms my suspicions. I wouldn't doubt this takes place on 9/11
The best environment to get a real education in 2017 isn't at a university. If you want to argue with me, watch the video to the end and then comment.
Huge pitching moment with that airfoil, stab too small.
not sure people have dreamt of flying for THOUSANDS OF YEARS..
crazy that they even post this on an official MIT Channel. This is embarrassing as fuck