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Komentáře • 393

  • @AtunSheiFilms
    @AtunSheiFilms Před 2 lety +206

    Skarsgard talking to himself on the roof was a Shakespeare thing - Hamlet has a bunch of soliloquies like that in the play.

    • @rougewerm
      @rougewerm Před 2 lety +5

      Aye well if it isn't my favorite nazi cosplayer, love your work.

    • @unnamedenemy9
      @unnamedenemy9 Před 2 lety +10

      I also think it's a saga thing -- lots of older writing involves characters talking to themselves out loud

    • @TheColMustang2
      @TheColMustang2 Před 2 lety

      Not a crossover i was expecting, love the videos atun-shei.

    • @jaginaiaelectrizs6341
      @jaginaiaelectrizs6341 Před 2 lety +6

      @@unnamedenemy9 It is a thing that real people, even those who are not just totally insane, do actually sometimes do in real life; especially when alone by themself or whatever. But of course it's also going to be more prevalent in things written with stage-acting or other forms of spoken storytelling in mind for it, as much or moreso than a specifically or exclusively written work that can tell you what the character is thinking even without externalizing it out loud.

    • @unnamedenemy9
      @unnamedenemy9 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jaginaiaelectrizs6341 oh I'm aware -- I am one of those people who talks to themselves *a lot,* I was just referring it back to the main inspiration for the rest film.
      Honestly, it's a very common thing in old writing in general because naturalistic. realistic dialogue wasn't held up as the gold standard until much more recently.

  • @charlespeter5610
    @charlespeter5610 Před 2 lety +189

    As a historian, the attention to detail was unmatched in modern cinema. It was so great that I'm seeing it with my Dad again at 11:55 in the morning (!) on Saturday. What an amazing movie. I demand an Amon Amarth companion record!

    • @ovrair6340
      @ovrair6340 Před 2 lety +4

      I hope eggers does more historical films

    • @ahuman6277
      @ahuman6277 Před 2 lety +2

      The twist with Amleth's mom actually really reminds me of the twist in Amon Amarth's concept album. Makes me wonder if there's a specific myth or saga that inspired both.

    • @serialthrilliayahoo
      @serialthrilliayahoo Před 2 lety +2

      St. Olga of Kyev movie when?

    • @labmates
      @labmates Před 2 lety

      @@ovrair6340 I believe he's planning to do a modern Nosferatu at some point.

    • @rolandgreco5850
      @rolandgreco5850 Před 2 lety

      I was thinking the same thing with Amon Amarth! Perfect music for the movie

  • @adammiller4122
    @adammiller4122 Před 2 lety +175

    I’ve seen it twice in theaters. If you’re expecting a Braveheart style “war movie” you might be disappointed. If a grimdark sword and sorcery about destiny and Norse magic sounds like your cup of tea, I think you’ll be pretty darn satisfied.

    • @stagelinedpro
      @stagelinedpro Před 2 lety +5

      The Northman made Braveheart feel like the Care Bears.

    • @thehermitman822
      @thehermitman822 Před 2 lety

      FOR THA IMPRAH

    • @jessie4962
      @jessie4962 Před 2 lety +1

      Just saw it. That’s exactly how I’d describe it!

    • @andrabook8758
      @andrabook8758 Před 2 lety

      i was expecting full on vengence/war movie....and I got a totally anti-climatic ending battle and some trully strange mommy-issues scenes....sighhhhh~~~~~

    • @andrabook8758
      @andrabook8758 Před 2 lety

      and no real Valkyrie!!!!....why? O_O.....just why....?? :'''''''''''''''''(((......why couldn't we just take out the creepy cgi-mommy issues and add in real Valkyries?

  • @RetroBailey
    @RetroBailey Před 2 lety +47

    Just one thing to clarify! He doesn't reject the normal life, he realises that after what he has done his family will be in danger from the children of his uncle so he as to finish what he started to protect his family who will go on to be kings and such. His life is consumed by his vengeance but it has more nuance to it which i really appreciate. Really loved it 8/10 for me.

    • @serialthrilliayahoo
      @serialthrilliayahoo Před 2 lety +5

      And if it's true that his daughter is St. Olga of Kyev it make the movie more tragic as is exemplifies how futile his quest ultimately was. If u know St. Olga's story u know it it has many parallels to this move.
      Infact many scenes directly references St. Olga, not only when her father saw her in his vision, but even the burning of that house full of people parallels with Olga's first act of vengeful reprisal...
      And here is the kicker, of all the horrors that she endured and committed were a consequence of her husband's past, not her family's by blood. So to me her mother Olga was right to flee from the violence. No matter what in that world u can't hope to prevent it just survive it.

  • @PlantOutofPot
    @PlantOutofPot Před 2 lety +46

    I like they forgot Amleth's name even though it's literally Hamlet with the 'h' moved to the end of the word

    • @gigangreg7837
      @gigangreg7837 Před 2 lety +7

      And Fjolnir
      It's just Fyole-near

    • @LPChipi
      @LPChipi Před 2 lety +18

      Actually, Hamlet is Amleth with the H moved to the beginning. Hamlet's story is inspired by the legend of Amleth.

    • @TallisKeeton
      @TallisKeeton Před 2 lety +2

      @@LPChipi Amleth is a charachter from "Gesta Danorum" "the Deeds of Danes" a chronicle telling many legends from before Denmark exists. Another familiar name from Gesta Danorum is Frode. :)

  • @lactarius7781
    @lactarius7781 Před 2 lety +147

    As an archaeology student from Scandinavia I was pretty impressed with the objects in the movie. It wasn't always perfect but it made it a lot more interesting to watch imo

    • @mastermalaprop
      @mastermalaprop Před 2 lety +11

      Yes! I'm a historian/archaeologist in the UK, and I was overjoyed to see some fabulous details we have direct archaeological evidence for. It was such a joy to watch

  • @mastermalaprop
    @mastermalaprop Před 2 lety +30

    As a historian, there were a few moments that made me squeal a little. There were some fabulous little details that directly link to archaeological evidence, and it was a real treat to watch

  • @EmilReiko
    @EmilReiko Před 2 lety +122

    I always thought that no-one would ever do a big budget film on Viking age characters that take them and their world serious in their own time, because to modern eyes - they are all repulsive and appalling Then Robert Eggers comes along and does something that is unapolegetic-saga viking.

  • @tximinoman
    @tximinoman Před 2 lety +48

    I really like how this movie treats magic because as far as the audience goes, everything could be in the main character's head. I think they only break this ambiguity once with the sword, when one of the evil guy's henchmen tries to unseathe it and he can't do it (and we're left to believe it's because it's daytime), but beyond that, everything can be the main guy's imagination.

    • @JJMB27
      @JJMB27 Před 2 lety +2

      Totally this! That only detail is the one time where "Magic" could be objective

    • @jaredhumpherys8335
      @jaredhumpherys8335 Před 2 lety +7

      I don't know, what happened shortly after with the crows can't easily be explained by his imagination

    • @tximinoman
      @tximinoman Před 2 lety +4

      @@jaredhumpherys8335 he fainted, the girl appeared and saved him but because he was barely awake he imagined it was a bunch of crows.

    • @roofdogblues7400
      @roofdogblues7400 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jaredhumpherys8335 Actually it can. As Anna's character was the one to save him, he imagines Odin's messengers freeing him(The crows), but it was really her. As he states when he wakes up with her there.

    • @rahulkhullar8206
      @rahulkhullar8206 Před 2 lety +1

      How would he have found the sword in the first place without magic?

  • @josephcarver5860
    @josephcarver5860 Před 2 lety +52

    This movie is the more of a "Norse Saga" than a "Modern Story". I completely understand why some people will not like this movie. It has a completely different view on set up and payoff, character motivation and goals, pacing, romance, revenge, family, and friendship, than what we are used to in the modern age. For me, this is what made it great, that Eggers and Sjon (co-writer) dared to go that direction. But, yet again, I understand and think that it is valid if this puts some people off.

    • @thehermitman822
      @thehermitman822 Před 2 lety +16

      We definitely need diverse stories more than simply sticking diverse ppl into cookie cutter stories.

    • @josephcarver5860
      @josephcarver5860 Před 2 lety +4

      The Hermit Man Preach Brother!

    • @thrawncaedusl717
      @thrawncaedusl717 Před 2 lety +2

      That is Eggers whole thing. He doesn’t make stories based on past cultures; he makes stories for past cultures, which modern cultures just also happen to like (while viewing differently) because of how human they are.

    • @josephcarver5860
      @josephcarver5860 Před 2 lety +1

      ThrawnCaedus L ”He doesn’t make stories based on past cultures; he makes stories for past cultures” I am stealing that. You hit the nail on the fucking head my friend.

  • @angela_merkeI
    @angela_merkeI Před 2 lety +21

    I really loved how the feeling of the movie stayed true to the feeling of the story or norse myths in general. I often ask myself "wtf how is he the hero" when reading sagas 😂
    Also I wanna add that Fjölnir also died bravely in battle, so there's a big chance that he and Amleþ will spend all of time up until ragnarök together in valhall which is kinda funny.

  • @clintbuckland8588
    @clintbuckland8588 Před 2 lety +61

    I kept thinking about two things while watching this movie.
    1. “This movie is a Hamlet retelling.” Partially true, because Hamlet is already a retelling of THIS story, so I was just backwards on the history.
    2. Alexander Skarsgaard is the NORTHMAN, but also plays Eric Northman in True Blood. Coincidence?

    • @Epicrandomness1111
      @Epicrandomness1111 Před 2 lety +7

      Keep in mind it's an adaptation of the Amleth story itself, the Amleth story having been told by a post Viking chronicler about a pre Viking Jutish prince. It involves a trip to Britain and the ultimate defeat of Amleth after his revenge, by the king of the Angles. It stands as much within the legends of the English as it does the Danish interestingly enough.

  • @bradydastrup1025
    @bradydastrup1025 Před 2 lety +9

    I loved this movie. And I like it more and more as I think about it. The historical accuracy, the supernatural/magic elements were amazing and the performances were top drawer.

  • @FadiAntwan
    @FadiAntwan Před 2 lety +11

    My favorite movie to come out this year so far. So glad someone is finally talking about! It deserved so much better at the box office.

  • @YourBlackLocal
    @YourBlackLocal Před 2 lety +13

    7:42 Eggers did say the movie did have studio interference, and he doesn’t know if he’ll ever make a movie this big again.

  • @benpuffer7891
    @benpuffer7891 Před 2 lety +63

    You can just say The Witch. The director has stated it is just said as a 'W'. "Anyone that thinks it is [pronounced] The VVitch is out of their mind" - Robert Eggers.

    • @claytonhomer3096
      @claytonhomer3096 Před 2 lety +8

      I was gonna say this exact thing. He puts in to bed 60 secs into Chris Gores interview at Film Threat. Old typeface used to use 2 V's for a W and he liked the way it looked, simple as that.

    • @serialthrilliayahoo
      @serialthrilliayahoo Před 2 lety +2

      U 👏 should 👏 have 👏 just 👏 used 👏 a 👏 W 👏 Robert!

    • @thrawncaedusl717
      @thrawncaedusl717 Před 2 lety +2

      @@serialthrilliayahoo not at all, the point of a title is to differentiate a movie. VVitch is more recognizable that Witch (which seems generic). Now, pronouncing it VVitch is ridiculous, but writing it that way was a great marketing decision.

    • @serialthrilliayahoo
      @serialthrilliayahoo Před 2 lety +1

      @@thrawncaedusl717 well we can agree on the latter at least. But fact is monkey see monkey do so if u don't want ppl saying vvitch...

    • @meurer13daniel
      @meurer13daniel Před 2 lety

      not an english speaker, completly lost on this quote. Can I just say the title just like the regular word? Is that it?

  • @titansuniverse3283
    @titansuniverse3283 Před 2 lety +16

    Since we're on the topic of Vikings i would recommend Vinland saga the prologue is similar to the northmen plot but then after that it takes a big turn story-wise in which made it my favorite manga
    Ps my pfp is actually the main character I just slapped my favorite in NFL team logo behind him

    • @morpheium203
      @morpheium203 Před 2 lety

      I was gonna say what he's describing sounds like Vinland saga lol

  • @BWinced
    @BWinced Před 2 lety +4

    I spent a little over 6 months in Iceland, from November to May. The "tone" of Iceland that Kayla mentions is pretty spot on, and what leads to a lot of drinking.

  • @SuperCliffReviews
    @SuperCliffReviews Před 2 lety +3

    I saw the Northman this past Wednesday!!
    Movie was phenomenal
    - cinematography
    - world building
    - costume
    - Anya Taylor-Joy
    9/10

  • @brandoncurren7610
    @brandoncurren7610 Před 2 lety +35

    I absolutely thought the same about their romance/friendship, I needed more. I didn’t think their romance was warranted, at least as early as it came into the picture. Also I feel like I didn’t see Taylor Joy’s “brilliant plotting” actually happening, at least not on screen. I really needed more development on both those fronts. Love Defoe! This movie had some challenging concepts to grapple with for me, but it’s in my opinion a brilliant tribute to the mythology and history of those regions of the world. Nothing was watered down, yet it also wasn’t primarily focused on lust or gore like many other films. The Northman was incredibly captivating for anyone that appreciates thought-provoking cinema, at the very least worth a one time see. Incredible performances by Nicole and Alexander!! Thanks for another great video Daniel!

    • @ergofiction5627
      @ergofiction5627 Před 2 lety

      Cinematography, Rituals, Viking aesthetic: Great
      Storytelling, dialogue and pacing: Almost laughable.
      I'm not kidding when i say the theatre I was at ended in laughter when the credits rolled, and not the good kind. Sooooo many issues. Valkyries wearing braces, needlessly shirtless scenes, fast-forwarded story telling, etc.
      No clue why people say this movie excels in story, characters and plot. It's average at best, and not what you should watch this movie for. This is assassin's creed valhalla, needless side quests and all, just with some magic mushies.

    • @thrawncaedusl717
      @thrawncaedusl717 Před 2 lety +1

      In the past, studios have insisted that Eggers needs one main character against his objections. In interviews, I heard mention of scenes of Olga before Amleth’s invasion. I suspect the directors cut (which has been heavily pointed to) will have much more development for Olga. But yeah, her character and relationship was underdeveloped in the theatrical version.

    • @rabbitmaze
      @rabbitmaze Před 2 lety +2

      mm well when Anya's character said she had "the cunning", she meant she had the witchery to help him. So not necessarily the brilliant mind, but the witchery to help him with his plotting, like the mushrooms. But I agree with most of your comment, I just don't think she was supposed to be the brains behind the plot, I think people misinterpreted her a bit. Since "cunning" was just another word used for witch during those times.

    • @rabbitmaze
      @rabbitmaze Před 2 lety +8

      ​@@ergofiction5627 Valkyries wearing braces - they weren't wearing braces. It was a ritual that some vikings went through, where they cut their teeth to show their strength against pain. And they believed Valkyries did it too. Shirtless scenes is because historically the beserkers believed they could embody or transform themselves into an animal. Amleth was the wolf and a little bit of the bear, a mixture. Which is why they are wearing animal skins in battle and the large focus on animal characteristics.
      Also the dialogue was supposed to be sparse, as Alexander wanted it sparse like the traditional Scandinavian plays or legends (he said something like that). He wanted it quite dry and told mostly through looks not dialogue.

    • @brandoncurren7610
      @brandoncurren7610 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rabbitmaze I really appreciate these comments, I didn’t know some of those factoids so thank you for sharing, that definitely helps inform the film and I actually appreciate it more after reading your comments!

  • @UberOtaku001
    @UberOtaku001 Před 2 lety +2

    It does a great job of approaching the Norse view of Fate. It reminded me so much of my experiences reading the Sagas and inspired tales like Children of Hurin. There is no paragon of virtue but a more classical heroism of a person facing their fate boldly.

  • @Major98
    @Major98 Před 2 lety +21

    The Lighthouse was insanely good. Looking forward to Northman

  • @MacScarfield
    @MacScarfield Před 2 lety +25

    Heavy mix with “Beowulf” (or perhaps more fitting Bodvar Bjarki, given good old Saxo Grammaticus as the inspiration for Amleth)- (Bjornulfr), and the Draugr/Barrow Wraith had some fitting Icelandic Saga flair too! Add a little “Conan the Barbarian” for the muscles and the transition shot of Amleth rowing as a child to an adult.
    Also, Eggers could not resist some Shakespeare-references indeed: Lady Macbeth for Gudrun, the Head of Heimr/Yorick, and hiding behind a loom/curtain, with a pinch of Akira Kurosawa (“Throne of Blood” (Macbeth) and “Ran” (King Lear)).
    The outerworld-ness of Iceland should be a worthy selling point in it’s own! One of very few movies that manage to “get” the grimness of the Icelandic Sagas (with Heroes “larger than life” rather than morally good), but also it’s comedy: Had a great laugh after the epic and brutal sacking of the Slavic Village, when the movie showed the Berserkers needing a “time-out” during their “hangover”.
    Marvelous acting by all! Skarsgård, Anya Taylor-Joy and Nicole Kidman have rightfully been mentioned but also Claes Bang (Fjolnir) and Ethan Hawke blew it out of the Park! You should always be careful when publicly judging Child Actors, but I have to say that the Actors that did the roles of Young Amleth and his half-brother Gunnar nailed their parts!
    I find Fjolnir’s choice of Frey as his patron god very interesting: The “Love God” (choosing the love of Gudrun over the loyalty to his king and brother). A god of Fertility when he is exiled to a barren land, and (spoilers) gets both his sons killed.

    • @suepedie1
      @suepedie1 Před 2 lety +1

      The Saga came first....then Macbeth & Beowulf.

    • @MacScarfield
      @MacScarfield Před 2 lety +1

      @@suepedie1 The tale of Beowulf is definitely older than the Icelandic Sagas, being set in the 6-7th Century and most likely written at the same time or earlier than when most of the Icelandic Sagas happen (8th-11th Century), and a lot earlier then when they in turn were written down (12-14th Century).
      The tale of Amleth was written by Saxo Grammaticus 12-13th Century and set in pancake flat Denmark (the Peninsula of Jutland to be specific), though a similar story can found in “Hrolf Kraki’s Saga”, which again can be tied to Beowulf.
      My Shakespeare point was that the character of Yorick was a creation of Shakespeare, without president in the Icelandic Sagas or Danish Chronicles, and the Gudrun of this story was very different from the Gertrude of Shakespeare or the Gerutha of Saxo, more similar to Lady Macbeth or Gunhild Kingsmother, wife of Eirik Bloodaxe in the “Heimskringla” Saga. I am sorry if I was unclear in my original comment, I hope this cleared my point of Eggers remixing the different versions of Amleth, Hamleth, Beowulf and various Icelandic Saga Heroes such as Grettir and Hervor into his version.

  • @_nickdoyle
    @_nickdoyle Před 2 lety +11

    Not seen the whole video, but seeing you talk about a viking-related-revenge-story-gone-different...I'd recommend Vinland Saga. Great manga, up there with Berserk as one of the great three, and you can also watch the anime, it's genuinely good.
    Anyhow back to the video~

  • @Kalsartz
    @Kalsartz Před 2 lety +8

    It really felt like a modern re-imagining of old sagas. Low focus on character development, you're told that instead, more focus on actions and jumping a bit around. Very interesting to watch. Not sure I loved it, but certainly interesting and a fresh take.

  • @andrewwright64
    @andrewwright64 Před 2 lety +4

    More books and films need to just openly embrace the value sets of the cultures portrayed as deeply as the ending of this movie did with his choice, the wrong one in our modern mindset, being affirmed as the right one within his culture and religion.

  • @seansuprem
    @seansuprem Před 2 lety +8

    I thought the VVitch was okay, I despised the Lighthouse but I have to say I absolutely loved the Northman, easily one of my favourite movies of the last 10 years

    • @mycaleb8
      @mycaleb8 Před 2 lety

      What's wrong with The Lighthouse.

  • @crablord7934
    @crablord7934 Před 2 lety +2

    I don't know, I think the movie really convinced me to view it as a myth, and the characters all feel extremely larger than life and more vessels for grand themes than grounded, relatable characters. I do love that Robert Eggers earned that view of this story by building the tone and world so perfectly.

  • @vancecunningham5032
    @vancecunningham5032 Před 2 lety +17

    Haven't seen the witch, despised the lighthouse, loved the Northman. It's a myth, people do things because it was exactly what would happen in a legend. Totally disagree about the characters, the questioning of their morality made it interesting and made me invested

  • @levicleeman4934
    @levicleeman4934 Před 2 lety +5

    I loved this movie from start to finish. Everything about it I adored. The ending, that primal fury. Just screaming at each other, I could feel it in my bones and I can’t stop thinking about it.

  • @gamenesea1064
    @gamenesea1064 Před 2 lety +5

    I highly recommend Vinland saga if you love berserk or northmen you will love it too

  • @blakedavison2171
    @blakedavison2171 Před 2 lety +1

    My absolute favorite scene of this movie was the little background story of the Draugr sword. That moment with the pounding drums and Willem Dafoe’s epic, deep voice in the background…just perfection. Felt very “Skyrim”

    • @chriswelter3859
      @chriswelter3859 Před 2 lety +1

      I loved the sword that can't be unsheathed unless it's night. Just a cool idea.

  • @glass12
    @glass12 Před 2 lety +1

    10/10 for me. This is my favorite of 2022 so far.

  • @TheDiabeticGameMaster
    @TheDiabeticGameMaster Před 2 lety +7

    Oh my God. Daniel. Eggars. It's EGG-ARS.

  • @oberstul1941
    @oberstul1941 Před 2 lety +3

    I just love how at the end they seem so happy to end the show.
    PS - also, according to Valhalla myths, they both should get in, both of them died in combat, killed by steel, so... Valhalla. Cheers!

  • @mindimeeks4756
    @mindimeeks4756 Před 2 lety +5

    I loved this movie. I've been hyped for it since I saw the first trailer, and it did not disappoint. I loved that it didn't spoon-feed the mythology. It managed to tell a relatively simple, archetypal story in a way that didn't feel tired or overdone. The amount of character development they shoved into this movie was amazing. I loved the visuals and that it didn't shy away from showing the brutality of this time in history. BTW, if you want to see a truly underrated movie where Nicole Kidman shines, watch The Others.

    • @AliasAerius
      @AliasAerius Před 2 lety +1

      I was just about to suggest The Others as well. Just don't look anything up about The Others before you watch it.

    • @mindimeeks4756
      @mindimeeks4756 Před 2 lety

      @@AliasAerius Definitely agree 👍

  • @arenkai
    @arenkai Před 2 lety

    It's out next week where I live ! So pumped !

  • @DweezyBreezey
    @DweezyBreezey Před 2 lety +4

    I have to disagree with you two about the characters. I think they all of a lot of depth and well fleshed out, and I cared about all of them. I think the strength of these characters is that there are a lot of details about them that aren't focused that much on, but because of that, it leaves room for the viewer to think about them and examine them. Rather than focusing on explicit character exploration, it does enough of that to flesh out the characters, but then gives the viewer the tools they need to analyze the characters. I think that reliance on implications can lead people to feel that they are underdeveloped, but I would say that they are moreso understated. It's kind of the same reason I love Shakespeare characters, the material gives you a lot to consider when examining the characters. I do agree that the romance does suffer somewhat due to a lack of focus, but I think it makes sense why they would get together, and the chemistry between Skarsgard and ATJ helps to elevate it for me.
    I'll also say that I saw it twice (the only film I've ever felt the need to see more than once in theaters) and I would definitely give it a 10/10, to me it's just as much of a masterpiece as The Lighthouse. The Lighthouse might be a more interesting, unique, and artsy film, but The Northman succeeds at being an energetic, gripping epic. They are going for two different things and they both excel at what they set out to do. Might not see it a third time in theaters, but I would definitely be okay doing so, and I am getting it on bluray the first day it comes out. The film really cemented Robert Eggers as one of my favorite directors, and if he keeps making bangers, I can see him becoming my favorite director, period.
    And SPOILERS
    I really love how Amleth only became truly locked into his fate once he tried to escape it, or I guess became aware of how his trapped. It's a very satisfying twist, and I like that it forces Amelth to face his crimes. It also gives his battle with Fjolnir more weight, as Amelth is not fighting just to avenge what he has lost, but to protect what he has gained. I feel like I can say more about it, but I have to think on it more, and this comment is too long already.

  • @jaspervanheycop9722
    @jaspervanheycop9722 Před 2 lety +1

    Destroyer (2018) is worth checking out if you want more Nicole Kidman, she just transforms in that movie. A truly underrated actress IMHO, her face just seems to be able to warp at will.

  • @j.b.3981
    @j.b.3981 Před 2 lety

    Great video, really enjoying both of you two and your insights! Loved this movie so much I bought it and plan to watch again tonight!

  • @MiMiLaXMiMi
    @MiMiLaXMiMi Před 2 lety +5

    Huh I’d just kind of assumed this would be another “Vikings cool” movie without an ounce of realism… guess I was wrong; and I’m actually interested now

  • @vampirevore
    @vampirevore Před 2 lety

    honestly hadn't heard of this before your video but now i Need to watch it

  • @samuelleask1132
    @samuelleask1132 Před 2 lety +2

    This movie was a fever dream and I adored it

  • @CulnamoElrond
    @CulnamoElrond Před 6 měsíci

    I just watched the movie and I had this feeling you'd made a video about it, and when I looked it turns out that yes you did and I had watched it right up to the spoiler part intending to watch the rest later. Funny how that works sometimes.

  • @Magali_theRecordKeeper

    This movies is *absolutely* doing the epic thing (like the norse equivalent of a greek hero's story) and it tells you right from the beginning : the gods are invoked in the intro to dedicate the story to them (just as you would in the Illiad). And from then on: the characters talk in a poetic way, the story mixes fantastical elements into gritty life events as if they are considered part of normal life, the protagonist chooses to die even though he has other options (which is framed as both tragic and glorious, like Achilles choosing to go to war), and the whole story's conclusion (*spoilers: the children survive*) easily makes it seem like something a poet would write about the glorious ancestor of their current ruler.

  • @angelicanavarro5311
    @angelicanavarro5311 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you, Daniel. My curiosity was sparking about this film. I think I will give it a go this weekend

  • @rabbitmaze
    @rabbitmaze Před 2 lety +3

    spoilers about ending scene*******
    Errr i dont think the director is telling you Amleth made the right choice.
    Like you said, yeah maybe the right choice for someone who has grown up with those beliefs and toxicity. But look at it from all sides...was going to Valhalla really worth everything he did? He lived a life of no connections until he was much older, lived in hate and apathy, killed his own brother and mother, he deprived his children of their father, pretty much showed them that violence is the only way out ,which perpetuates the cycle born from his father and his before that. He could have left and gone on to have a happy life with his children and partner. But he couldn't let go. And fair enough I guess, since its ingrained in him since birth because of the society/culture he lives in. So yeah he gets to go to valhalla, where he can drink with dead friends and prepare for the final battle with honour. Like....woohoo? Honour is a stupid thing to waste your whole life for. I think us being able to look at it from outside of the culture, helps us to see the tragedy of it. He lived a wasted life, murdered people for nothing, and then died. Glad he could be happy about it, but if I saw someone live that way, I wouldn't be happy for them at all. I would say...that's a tragedy.
    Anyway that's just how I interpreted it. Not that I think I am right and you're wrong or vice versa. I just think its quite interesting how the beliefs and culture you grow up in can shape you in such a way that it could negatively affect your life to such an extreme and be impossible to escape from. I guess it's the same for people indoctrinated into cults and other extreme religions. The shit they would do to go to their afterlife.

  • @TallisKeeton
    @TallisKeeton Před 2 lety +1

    I dont know why we should always "care" for charachters to be able to appreciate a movie? I know that its good when we can "care" for them of course - for at least one or two of the heroes, or for one of them one moment and another of them another moment of the movie - but even if we dont care much for the heroes there is so much more in a movie to appreciate, IMO a movie is not only a story about people, its also a "box of ideas" - and I love to unwrap this box layer by layer :)

  • @booksandtropes
    @booksandtropes Před 2 lety +3

    Love seeing Kayla on the channel :) Awesome review as always!

  • @hackapump
    @hackapump Před 2 lety +2

    I think it would be slightly anachronistic to expect a modern day romantic development between two characters in a viking age saga. Not saying people weren’t falling in love back then, but romantic concepts weren’t really what drove people, not until in more recent times. (It wasn’t something they could afford, it was all about being practical). And so the Amleth/Olga dynamic never threw me off. They were clearly curious about each other from the get go, and it wasn’t difficult to imagine an attraction growing sooner rather than later. Add their mutual interests and how they complimented each other, and you have a perfectly believable pairing.
    Also, it was obviously a conscious decision to make the protagonist difficult to get behind completely. His whole life story is a moral conundrum, it’s all about the choice he makes in the end. These were brutal times. My guess is few survived long enough without making some questionable decisions.
    In the end it’s less a movie about characters than it is about a time and place and its culture and mythology. And so far most - including viking age historians - seem to agree the movie succeeded in that regard. (Robert Eggers even says as much in interviews: He wanted a simple enough revenge story at the core of the script, so he could indulge in the more fantastical aspects of Norse mythology without throwing the audience).

  • @Faish09
    @Faish09 Před 2 lety +2

    I felt the short rooftop monologue to be somewhat analogous to Hamlets famous “to be or not to be” soliloquy.
    I really loved it, and I don’t think it came from studio intervention.
    Also, I totally agree with you on Nicole Kidmans amazing performance.

  • @fionawallace8847
    @fionawallace8847 Před 2 lety +2

    Daneil, having seen you reading Berserk recently and now reviewing this, I have to ask if you've read or watched any of Vinland Saga. Because it seems totally relevant to your tastes.

  • @dess_greenwood1081
    @dess_greenwood1081 Před 2 lety

    I’ve been watching the preview for this one on other movies and have been wanting to go see it.

  • @planetzdr
    @planetzdr Před 2 lety +1

    My favorite Viking thing to date

  • @danielcody7568
    @danielcody7568 Před 2 lety +1

    This was a fantastic movie in all aspects. However, as someone who found the pacing a bit slow at times, let me clarify why:
    The first act transitions into the second around the time Amleth cuts his hair and stows away on the slave ship, and the second act transitions into the third when Amleth is discovered and flees with Olga.
    The second act is the longest act of the film, and compared to the brief and action-packed first and third acts, it just moves slower. Sure, a LOT happens in the second act, but it’s not packed in as tightly, and after the intense opening with King Aurvandill’s arrival, the wolf ritual, Aurvandill’s death, Amleth’s escape, and the Berserker ritual and subsequent town raid, the pace slows drastically when Amleth and Olga arrive in Iceland. The story takes more time to breathe in the second act as there’s a lot of story there. Yes, it felt kind of slow to me, but I’m sure it’s intentional.
    All in all, I think a lot of people were expecting a period action/adventure when the movie is more of a low-fantasy thriller set in 1000 CE Scandinavia (and I’m aware it’s based on a Norse saga that inspired Shakespeare to write Hamlet), so I can understand complaints about the pacing. It’s so good though, it’s trippy, thought-provoking, very well-crafted. The shots are beautiful and striking, it’s stylized when it needs to be, and it creates a very visceral and immersive world for the viewers.
    I’m hesitant to call it “epic” though, simply because the story just feels more intimate. Amleth isn’t doing anything that affects the world on a grand scale, he’s avenging his family by causing chaos in a backwater locale. The story isn’t a melodrama of good vs evil with a pure of heart protagonist, it’s about a man coming to grips with his principles and fate and hitting stumbling blocks that make him question everything on the path to his end.

  • @mischarowe
    @mischarowe Před 2 lety

    Okay you've sold me. I NEED to watch this. (Avoiding the spoiler section of the video though. Thanks. :))

  • @happosaai
    @happosaai Před 2 lety

    Clicked for the subject, stayed for the shirt! :-))

  • @alexanderlewis8121
    @alexanderlewis8121 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm not sure if you have, but read some of the Icelandic Sagas. I believe that may give you a little more insight to what they were trying to recreate. I think your review is very fair and I'm glad you enjoyed it.

  • @ohlookakitty911
    @ohlookakitty911 Před 2 lety +2

    Hi! I'm stepping out halfway through the video since I haven't seen the movie but you've just convinced me to go.
    I was debating going because of Alexander Skarsgård. I've loved him since Generation Kill so I thought I'd give it a try even though I'm kind of below sea level with my expectations for Viking movies. But now I'm hyped for it.
    I'm hit or miss with magical realism but I hope I like it.
    Thanks for the great review!

  • @jakebrown314
    @jakebrown314 Před 2 lety +1

    The very last thing anyone should want is for Eggers to get involved in the Marvel machine.

  • @paristhompson7522
    @paristhompson7522 Před 2 lety

    Speaking of great performances, Claes Bang was doing a fantastic job here. There was a lot of pent-up rage and pride seething in his character, but also a definite uncertainty about whether he's prepared to face the consequences of his old misdeeds

  • @Mandl7739
    @Mandl7739 Před 2 lety

    Watched it 2 days ago, loved it

  • @Levi_Zacharias
    @Levi_Zacharias Před 2 lety

    Cant believe you didn't mention the center framing. Nearly every shot was composed with visual symmetry. As a bit of a composition nerd this made everytime the composition changed super jarring. I loved it, though I did laugh at it sometimes because it was so consistent.

  • @bovarfririksson2449
    @bovarfririksson2449 Před 2 lety +1

    From Iceland no offence taken @Daniel Greene this is how Iceland is

  • @dbzgt1818
    @dbzgt1818 Před 2 lety +1

    According to an article on IndieWire, Robert Egger, had to put dialogue into Postproduction. Test audiences were confused during the film.

  • @stiqula
    @stiqula Před 2 lety

    If you loved this but thought it lacked character depth, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND "The Last Kingdom" on Netflix! It's set around the same time in (what's soon to be) England. Much smaller budget, but the story is amazing!

  • @Linnir
    @Linnir Před 2 lety

    Awesome film, loved it

  • @thegingerbreadmanX09
    @thegingerbreadmanX09 Před 7 měsíci

    For the record, the antithesis of “Buddy-Cop” is “Partners in crime”

  • @thebigshep
    @thebigshep Před 2 lety +1

    Hell yeah, I liked this way more than I thought I would

  • @MrMravetto
    @MrMravetto Před 2 lety

    Nice addition of the Ramsey gif. I'm a fan. This movie is now on my #1 watch list now

  • @ethaniriley
    @ethaniriley Před 2 lety

    it'd be fun to hear both your guys thoughts on The VVitch and The Lighthouse, love the different perspectives.

  • @kayyoung3187
    @kayyoung3187 Před 2 lety +3

    Not for your channel but I highly recommend Eyes Wide Shut if you want to see a beautiful Stanley Kubrick film with a great performance by Nicole Kidman. It’s my favorite Christmas movie lol!

  • @srottfaen
    @srottfaen Před 2 lety +3

    There is no D in Eggers.

  • @justinjeffries1554
    @justinjeffries1554 Před 2 lety

    A lot of the trailers gave me extreme Vinland Saga vibes and your feelings on it sort of prove that to me. I might check this out

  • @djeniiala
    @djeniiala Před 2 lety +1

    Could you guys be anymore adorable. Fantastic to listen to you guys.

  • @alethearia
    @alethearia Před 2 lety

    Kidman is am amazing actress. Her performance in 9 Perfect Strangers (or whatever if was called) on Hulu is phenomenal and mesmerizing. I got sucked into that story so hard. Don't listen to the critics until after you watch it and can fully appreciate the hot takes.

  • @timitoe
    @timitoe Před 2 lety

    glad to see the Goblin is doing more movies

  • @ObiWann90
    @ObiWann90 Před 2 lety +1

    This and the other 2 Eggars films are 10/10 for me.

  • @SkullandSwors_art
    @SkullandSwors_art Před 2 lety

    If you liked it, you should read the manga Vinland Saga. Also, as a former movie theater employee, the concession stand is basically where the theater makes its money. They get almost nothing from the ticket sales because most of that goes upstream to the movie creators. Right now I have a feeling it is particularly expensive because they’re probably trying to stay afloat post COVID and just because everything is expensive right now. But if people want to continue to see films in theaters, they should buy from the concession stand.

  • @iansmokoski9788
    @iansmokoski9788 Před 2 lety

    Haven't seen it yet. I'll be back.

  • @justanothervoice2538
    @justanothervoice2538 Před 2 lety

    I think you missed part of the nuance of the ending; Amleth didn’t just go back because he couldn’t leave his destiny, but also to protect his newfound family. He finally found a purpose to his existence besides the revenge he was raised by, and went back to save it. As he says, “I was told I would have to choose between kindness for my kin, and hate for my enemies. I choose both.”
    I 100% agree with Kayla that Olgeth’s introduction and the start of their relationship felt extremely rushed, I didn’t really understand why she was doing what she was doing and how they came to trust each other. However, I felt everyone else was plenty developed, especially Amleth. 8.5/10.

  • @thehermitman822
    @thehermitman822 Před 2 lety

    Subversion of tropes sounds great.

  • @fng.antheus
    @fng.antheus Před 2 lety

    Hi Mr. Goblin, not sure if you’ll see this but I have a recommendation I think you’ll like. Although a bit out of your usual style, I think you should check out the Complete Calvin and Hobbes. It’s very funny, wholesome, and provides some really great commentary on life. Also the books for the complete collection are gorgeous.
    Also, fun fact, it has the highest average score I’ve seen on goodreads! It’s a 4.79 if I recall correctly.

  • @mikeycj7
    @mikeycj7 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for bringing her on to review this movie! I for once disagreed with our lord Goblin and agreed with the Lady Goblin lol

  • @kylekelley2419
    @kylekelley2419 Před 2 lety +1

    This movie left me with the same uneasy feeling I get from watching a violent portion of a nature documentary.

  • @Sanglant4342
    @Sanglant4342 Před 2 lety +14

    I really liked The Witch, hated The Lighthouse, loved The Northman. Totally agree on the need to sit on the movie for a couple of days to fully appreciate it.
    The "romance" of the story was supposed to be stilted I felt. Instead of the coming together of two humans it was almost animalistic forming of a pack.
    As soon as I left the theater I also said I now needed to go to Iceland.

  • @EloSportsTalk
    @EloSportsTalk Před 2 lety +1

    Spoilers for The Northman and the Green Knight: I got really similar vibes from these movies and think they'd make a fantastic double feature on the theme of "what does it mean to be a man?" Gawain is a dumb fuckboi trying to prove himself a man to in a society that has no good role model. Amleth is a human who can only be a beast. He doesn't know how to be human or specifically a man as he chases after vengeance and war just like his father taught him. He doesn't know how to love and thus he can't be a father. He only knows hatred and violence. He doesn't know how to live, only to kill. I really want more movies like those. Gorgeous and deep and awe inspiring.

  • @Madmancoffee
    @Madmancoffee Před 2 lety

    Saw it yesterday, i didn't get it was a retelling of Hamlet and it was a nice surprise to discover.

  • @jaysemitchells497
    @jaysemitchells497 Před 2 lety +2

    Great review, very well spoken, both of you!

  • @jayaprakash387
    @jayaprakash387 Před 2 lety +1

    Please watch everything everywhere all at once

  • @josephhirning2642
    @josephhirning2642 Před 2 lety

    As a fan of North Mythology, this movie was awesome.

  • @annaroselarsen4218
    @annaroselarsen4218 Před 2 lety +1

    I love the Nothman and the ending was beautiful

  • @noahmellemstrand4756
    @noahmellemstrand4756 Před 2 lety +2

    Heyo Daniel! Would love to hear your thoughts on Everything Everywhere all at once. It is easily the best movie I have seen in theatres

  • @gregorychaston893
    @gregorychaston893 Před 2 lety +1

    Based on your reaction to this movie plus your reactions to your current Berserk reading: The manga Vinland Saga is something you should seriously consider adding to your TBR for after Berserk. I know it has likely already been recommended, just "You liked these 2 media items, consider this 3rd media item" moment.

  • @Sharpclaw2000
    @Sharpclaw2000 Před 2 lety

    Lol I did not expect this considering the marketing and movie posters haha. Suppose I will have to go watch it heh.

  • @moistboots648
    @moistboots648 Před 2 lety

    Eggers was told to change the dialogue and he didn't have the final cut.

  • @jperkinstheatre
    @jperkinstheatre Před 2 lety +1

    If your looking for some good viking story telling, I'd recommend checking out Vinland Saga. Best manga story I've read in my personal opinion. Also a great season of anime with more on the way!

  • @melindawolfUS
    @melindawolfUS Před 2 lety

    On the romance:
    I don't think it was as romantic as modern audiences expect, but in a historical context it was actually more realistic.
    Olga is extremely physical vulnerable. She wants a freedom from being a slave,, she knows she'll need a protector and provider to survive in that environment. She displays her femininity and presents Almath with the benefits she can bring him in trade for what she wants.
    Without birth control available, without state or family to provide and protect a single woman, that's what marriage was for a lot of people. We have romantic luxury available today of looking for someone who gives us butterflies that was a very rare motivation for marriage in the past

  • @74gould
    @74gould Před 2 lety

    I absolutely loved this movie. LOVED it. ⚔️

  • @Wanderwilderreading
    @Wanderwilderreading Před 2 lety

    Your shirt really sells it tbh