Birding with the Lumix G9 and 100-300mm Lens
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- čas přidán 26. 01. 2022
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Your videos are so helpful with the “how.” This one reminds of the “why.” Thanks very much.
Glad to hear this Sherry. You articulated that very well. ☺ Seems like a lot of folks like this type of content, so hopefully I can find some more interesting species and locations to shoot in the coming months. Cheers!
Leave me a comment to let me know if you like this kind of content.
Ah right 👍🏻
Yes. More please. 👍
I really liked the video! Great to see practical application and real-time handling of challenges (fast woodpecker for instance).
Yes, love it!
Wonderful video Marlene...I recall watching your 'Zero to Birder' video and your maiden outing with the G9 and the Panasonic 100-300 mm (I have been using this sterling lens over the last 5 years or so and for the price and quality it is one of the very best)...from then to this video where the cute chickadees are feeding straight of your palm, it is indeed a great leap that you have taken in such a short time...I am grateful to all the technical stuff you have put out on the Lumix cameras and I enjoy how you are out in the field exploring beautiful birds that can be found only when we look out for them...look forward to such videos from you...thank you.
Hi Ravi, Thank you so much for noticing all of that! I bought that lens last February so almost a year of practice with it. Every time I go out looking for birds, I learn something new, or try a new technique, and learn what works and what doesn't. It's very fun. And of course birding is like always being on a treasure hunt. Cheers and thanks for leaving such a thoughtful comment. Stay tuned for more like this. :)
Do Beautiful to see you with those birds 👍👍👍
Thank you. They are sure interesting to watch.
It does not mater if the video is short …..certainly enjoyed your photo walk!….By the way; I ‘ve never seen a woodpecker that size!….Thanks a lot !
Glad you enjoyed it. I try to get out at least once a week for a good long photo walk. I don’t always film them as it’s kind of cumbersome and cuts into my walking and birding time. My latest video has a bit of that style as well. Yes, those Pileated woodpeckers are huge, but sadly I haven’t seen them since I made this video. I look for them every time I go in this area. Thank you for watching.
Hi Marlene, yes I enjoyed this taster, always good to see you out and about using the Lumix and sharing your nature knowledge too. Thanks.
Thanks so much Andrew. I was very happy to have something exciting to shoot for this. You never know when you head out, what you're going to find. I've had many "empty card" days too. That is the life of a birder. Hopefully get more action as spring approaches and the migrating birds pass through again. Cheers!
@@ImageMaven Never disappointed with your channel Marlene.
I love your nature Pictures, Thanks for sharing.
Glad you like them Lois! Thanks for watching.
Fantastic work. I love seeing a woodpecker and am always hyped about it :). Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it Stu! Thanks for watching.
Enjoyed the show and tell... and the technical pointers included in the video. Nice job.
Thanks David. It sure was a fun experience. Cheers!
@@ImageMaven I forget to ask you about the 100-300 lens -- I don't have the model II -- just the original. Do you have a sense of what might gained by moving up to the model II?
I believe weather sealing and the OIS on the lens. But not sure of any other upgraded features.
I just got this lens for my g9, and really enjoy it (yes, for birding). I like it because it is small enough to always be in my bag.
Agree. Small and light. Light on the price too. Thanks for watching Steve. Happy Birding!
That was really cool how the chickadees ate out of your hand. Definitely would like more of this. Great to see you out in the terrain. Just got my 100-300mm lens this Christmas. I am anxious to take it out and use it. Take care!
Glad you enjoyed it Steven. I enjoyed making it, but wasn't sure how my very loyal G9 fans (such as yourself) would respond. Yes, those chickadees know how to get food. As soon as you stop anywhere on the trail, 3 or 4 show up and immediately start zooming around you. They bug you until you bust out the sunflower seeds. So I really had no choice but to give them a part in this. Cheers! Always great to hear from you!
Must be a great experience to have wild birds feeding from your hand. Very enjoyable video, thanks.
It's a little ticklish and I had the urge to pull my hand away at first. As you can see, they don't stay on your hand too long. Thank you for watching!
"A good day in nature is a good day indeed"...so very true. Fantastic woodpecker shots! I will try the white balance warm next time I'm out. Thanks Marlene 👍
Thanks for watching! The sky is so cool here in winter because the sun doesn't get up too high, so I like to warm it up. And it's nearly impossible to predict the WB in the middle of the forest. So I've learned to trust my Lumix! Of course you can adjust WB it in editing too, but I try to get it close as possible in the camera.
Beautiful!
Thank you Kathy! Cheers!
Some great shots and footage!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thx.
Wonderful video, not as much snow as I would have thought in Alberta
Ya, we don't actually get much snow in Calgary. It's very arid here. Plus the snow we did have, has all but melted over the past couple of weeks. We often get some good dumps in March. Thanks for the chat, Jeff!
Awesome, more of these please!
Thank you! I'll do my best.
This is great content. And, the video shots and compositions are awesome. Keep up the great videos.
Glad you like them! And thank you for watching.
I enjoyed this video. fun to watch.
Thank you so much!! Cheers.
Great video!! Amazing images.
Many thanks Nigel!
Love the content and how production work. This is a great way to offer 3 min of suggestions, knowledge, and the resulting video. The Rode Mic is performing quite well. Thanks for your extra efforts.
Thank you very much Steve! Yes, it was a bit of an experiment. I'm getting a little tired of the same old style. I'm sure my viewers are too. And my birding/long lens videos seem to be quite popular. Need to mix things up a bit in 2022. I do love my new mic. It's just so easy to use compared to what I had before. Always great to hear from you. Cheers!
@@ImageMaven Looking forward to whatever animal you find!
Thank you for all of your videos. You were my inspiration behind getting a G9, as well as my teacher in learning everything about it. I use the 100-400 Panasonic lens for birds in my videos. Also, your Pileateds are a lot nicer the ones we have here. In Texas, they fly away as soon as you put your eyes on them, lol.
Thank you for the kind words. Hopefully you can find some birds that are not so shy and nervous to practice using your 100-400 lens. Enjoy the treasure hunt!
Marlene, great opening to your video and nice shots of the woodpecker. You made it look easy to get that guy when I know pileated woodpeckers can be quite shy.. Thanks in part to your videos I went ahead and purchased a G9 with the 100-400mm lens. I hope to have it out in the woods as soon as I become more familiar with the menu and do a little custom programming. I'm sure I'll be referring back to many of your videos for guidance. Much thanks for all your hard work on this channel.
These Pileateds were hard to find. But we just listened for the pecking sounds. Oh, nice kit. How exciting for you Bruce. I'm planning on renting the 100-400mm to compare it to the 100-300. It might be too heavy for my old injured shoulders. But I'm willing to try! Have fun discovering the joys of super telephoto shooting. Did you get a shorter focal length lens as well? Thanks for stopping by.
@@ImageMaven Marlene, I bought the 8-18mm as well. After a back injury and years of carrying heavy kit as a press photographer the 100-400mm is about as heavy as I'd want to carry again for hiking. Initial impressions is that it feels well built and worthy of the Leica name. I've had good luck with the Leica V-Lux 114 and some nice images from my Canon SX60hs which does an amazing job for perched subjects but struggles with birds in flight. I'm hoping the G9 will combine the best attributes of both cameras. Time will tell.
Great second lens. I have the 7-14mm but it's f/4 so definitely a fair weather lens. I use it for my skateboarding shots at 7mm most of the time as I can get very close to my subjects and wide angle distortion seems to be in fashion with skateboarding these days. I really love that lens. But with an extra wad of extra cash I'd definitely consider trading for both the 100-400 and the 8-18. Birds in flight are a struggle some days, depending on the light. My most successful shoots were pelicans flying against a blue sky with the sun behind me or beside me. It provided a nice contrast that the AF was able to easily pick up. I had lots of practice as there were a couple thousand pelicans in the area. I have a video about it too. Cheers!
Hi Marlene, on the one hand, a technical review of a camera can be very useful. On the other, a practical field review reveals the strengths and weaknesses in context, which is invaluable. Please make lots more field reviews!
Hi Rob, I'll do my best. Takes a bit more planning and luck, but it's more fun for me and my CZcams fans. Cheers.
Beautiful. 🦆🦅🐧
Thank you! Cheers Ken.
I really enjoyed it many thanks. I have just acquired a G9 and 100-300 so will be out and about here in the UK hunting shots of birds!
Have fun! Let me know how it goes.
@@ImageMaven will do Marlene hopefully can get some great bird photography done
Hi Marlene I am thinking of going again with the G9 and 100-300
Just love your content, Marlene. The bird-eating out of your hand is precious, reminds me of two baby squirrels eating from macadamia nuts in my hand. Heartwarming. Thanks for sharing.
Yes, that was fun and totally unplanned. My first attempt at my intro the chickadees where swirling around and dive bombing me. So I thought I better settle them down a bit with a peace offering. Always great to hear from you Don!
@@ImageMaven Always great to be heard from and watch your videos too and hear from you as well.
Stay well and God be with you, Marlene.
Beautiful video! It's great to see you out and about! Yes, definitely more of this content is welcome, to balance the practical with the theoretical.
May we know what stabilization settings you use for birding videos (handheld and tripod-supported)? I encounter problems especially when panning or following birds around.
Hi Sean, I don't like carrying a lot of gear around, so I'm handheld in these photos. I have all the stabilization engaged. Most important though is the lens OIS. If I forget to set that to ON, then I have very hard time focussing because I'm moving so much. Following birds is one of the hardest things to do, but the bigger the bird, the easier it is. But yes it's kind of like hand holding a telescope or binos when trying to look at the moon. Shaky shake shake. I keep my eye pressed to the viewfinder and my elbows held tight to my body. I hold the lens underneath with my left hand. I try to make myself as stable as possible. Also, fast shutter speeds! And of course, Practice practice practice. Some days are better than others.
Yes moore adventure i love that
I will do my best. Thanks for watching!
Nice bit of snow you have there we’ve had nothing this year so far, love the woodpecker, our 3 species are much smaller
Hi Caroline, Most of our snow has melted and we're in need of more before the farmers and gardeners plant their crops. Thanks for watching.
@@ImageMaven why do the farmers need more snow before planting?
It's been very dry here the past couple of years. We had no rain all summer. We need all the moisture we can get. The snow melts into the ground and makes it nice and moist before planting.
Wonderful…relaxing! Have to ask, other than the bird photos/video other video by g100?
Not sure I completely understand your question but yes, I shoot a lot of my CZcams videos with the G100 these days.
@@ImageMaven when you were filming yourself and handling g9 were you using g100? Sorry if not clear…the g100 rarely gets the kudos it deserves.
That day I had a friend along for the filming of myself, but mostly I'm working alone... hence the many videos in front of my backdrop.
And I agree the G100 is very under-rated! I have 2 of them. Use them nearly every day.
Marlene, I liked this short out and about! But don't stop with longer "technical" vids.
Got your message loud and clear Joe. I needed a bit of a break. Been doing G9 videos for 3+ years already!
Very big Woodpeckers. I use the 100-400 Lumix. I love it.
Yes Ben, they are huge! It's quite spectacular to see them in action. I wouldn't want them pecking on my own trees or house. I'm planning to rent the 100-400mm soon to see how it compares. Cheers!
@@ImageMaven I had the 100-300. It is a huge difference to zhe 100-400. Only the waight is negativ.
@@studio1966 that's my rig too. The G9 with the Leica 100-400. Awesome lens. Like your said, big jump from the 100-300. Sold my 100-300. Enjoy.
@@ImageMaven you're going to fall in love with the Leica 100-400 on the G9. An amazing bird rig. Thanks for all your videos, you've helped me learn a lot about my camera. I need to do a video of some of my bird shots and post it. Enjoy!
I'm sure I will. Just not sure if I want to be carrying that much weight. I'll rent it as soon as we're closer to spring. Not that many birds around here yet. Thanks for chiming in!
Lovely footage, especially the Pileated Woodpecker, we don’t have that variety in the UK. Can I say I’m surprised you don’t use silent mode when birding, or do you think the mechanical shutter is better than electronic? I’d love to see more content like this 👍
Hi Sue, In my experience, it's rare that the electronic shutter is necessary. I'm not usually very close to the birds like I am with the little chickadees. Those Pileateds were 5-10+ meters away and they made more noise than my shutter. And if I'm shooting a hawk on a fence post beside a field, there's usually a lot of ambient noise around. They're more afraid of my proximity than the shutter noise. But I'm afraid of them too. Don't want to get swooped by and angry bird of prey. More similar content coming soon! Thank you for letting me know!!
Yes, I do like content of this kind. Most of the videos about bird/wildlife photography work with full frame or at least APC cameras. So yours widen the perspective, if you deal with possibilities and limits of MFT in this field.
Thanks for watching Paul!
I have been taking pics at my feeder of northern flickers, wrens, rebellied woodpeckers, downy woodpeckers and nuthatches and juncos with my g9 and a 500mm mirror lens, which once i figured out the focusing of gave me decent pictures, usually im using a n older canon 70-300mm lens, the lack of affordable telephoto lenses for mft is depressing, luckily its easy to adapt lenses to to them.
That's sounds like a nice variety. I have similar species at my feeders. I certainly don't want these huge Pileated woodpeckers at my feeder though! I'd be afraid they'd put a hole in my house as they can be very destructive when motivated by hunger. I do feel that the 100-300mm lens is very affordable given the alternatives. But I'm happy you have some options that work for you. Thanks for stopping by. Happy Birding!
@@ImageMaven well it IS cheaper than anything canon or nikon has to offer but its still beyond me lol
OMG that chickadee is adorable! I don't understand how all of you Canadians can get them to eat out of your hands!
Right?! If you don't feed them they pester you until you do! Weirdly my home garden chickadees don't come near me. They fly away as soon as I'm within 10 feet from them.
I like the short vedeo, what area in general was the location of the walk?
Hi Ken, Fish Creek.
Hi, I really like your videos! How bad is the rolling shutter on the G9 when shooting at 20fps electronical shutter, especially something like small birds flying off? I´m currently using a G85 and the 100-300, but I´m considering to upgrade the body to a G9 because of Af and fps.
Hmm, can't say how good or bad rolling shutter is for photos, off the top of my head. I'd have to look at some photos or do some tests. How is it on the G85?
@@ImageMaven On, the G85 it´s quite bad.
@@lukassinger_photo i have noticed it on my g9 doing burst shots using electronic shutter at 30fps and full ibis stabilization with a 500mm mirror lens, and havent had any problems with the photos "wobbling" when i press the shutter release but the wobble is noticable until the ibis kicks in, i can just handhold it if im careful and havent had any coffee lol
@@chuckmikey001 That´s nice to hear!
@@chuckmikey001 Thanks so much for chiming in. 👌 Appreciate your generosity.
Lovely video Marlene I enjoyed it very much especially the birds feeding from your hand just terrific. How do you get on with your highlights on birds with white feathers on a bright day? I am sure you get all the detail. For me highlights on animals, flowers on bright days are tricky. Thank you.
Hi Michael. I try to predict what the scene will be like, and to be honest, I usually have issues with underexposure when in the forest. But I try to do a couple test shots before going full on burst mode. I keep an eye on my histogram and err on the side of under exposure 1/3 stop or so if I'm losing my highlights. Of course, the other option is to shoot raw files, and recover the highlights that are blown out. And I use my exposure compensation a lot too (+/-). If the bird is backlit and it's overcast, I pretty much dial in +2 right away. But yes, super bright days are a challenge with some subjects. I never mind an overcast day, but it does tend to require using higher ISO, and that sometimes can turn your photos to mush. It's a mix of experience + luck. Thanks for your comments. Great to hear from you again!
@@ImageMaven Thank you Marlene really good of you to take so much care with your reply. Getting it right is all part of the fun. I am sure your method will help out a lot. The heads of Mallard drakes in the sunshine dazzling away, turquoise green into blue and back again such a beautiful challenge. One day. Thanks again and all the best.
Marlene, you are such a great help to panasonic users. I've had the 100-300 for about a year on a g85 and really like the lens, but trying to up the game with my bird photography. Low light is hurting me, any ideas? I try and shoot M, but when I get the SS up to 1000 or greater, I loose effective light, ideas?
Thinking of upping my game with either 100-400 or g9. Like everyone, limited budget, so which first, new body or lens, can't do both?
Also, trying to max out potential of the g85 with 100-300 and applying all tips you thoughtfully provide. Looking to enhance sharpness of "not in flight" birds as well and improve birds in flight and get as tight in as possible. Thanks for any tips, advice.
Great questions! First off the 100-400mm will not help you in low light as it’s effectively the same speed - f/4 at 100mm and f/6.3 at 400mm. But it is sharper and it gets you closer. I love that lens!
For non-moving birds you can try lowering your SS to 1/500s. That will double your light. But low light is a struggle for all cameras and long lenses.
I’m betting there will be a new Lumix G9 mk2 coming soon. That will make the G9 even more affordable. Or you can save up for the new camera. Hopefully it comes out this year. You can also try looking for a used 100-400mm lens.
In the meantime you can check out the Topaz AI apps. I just love the Topaz Noise AI. I use it a lot on all images not just high ISO ones. It has a sharpening aspect to it which I love. Might be worth downloading and testing. You can download for free to test. (See next comment for video link.) But wow I’m blown away by it. Of course there are other apps but Topaz works with jpgs, where others need RAW files. I shoot jpgs 99% of the time.
I think that covers most of your questions but feel free to hit me up if you need more info. Cheers Greg!
P.s. This video will help with the editing I do using Topaz DeNoise Ai
Editing Bird Photos using LR and Topaz DeNoise
czcams.com/video/a4pyU3ITqGg/video.html
Great video, I noticed you have a larger red video record button on the top of your camera. Is that an aftermarket item? If so could you tell me a bit more about it and where it can be purchased. Thanks in advance, Shawn
Hey Shawn, That's a ProDot. You can get them in Red and Black. Link in video description. Top of the Gear List.
@@ImageMaven thank you so much!
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Nice video Marlene did you use Human ,Animal detect?
Hi William, For these photos and videos of the birds I used PinPoint AF. The shots of me talking were Human detection. I used my G100 for those. When I'm looking high up a tree, or there are lots of branches in the way, I find PinPoint works better than Animal Detection. But if a bird is well lit and sitting on a fence post, the Animal detection works great. I used Animal detection with Robins in a nest as well. Also I use Back Button focus and that's a great help too. Hope that helps.
Could you do a vid on the Lumix Synch vs the old Panasonic Image App? I updated my firmware and it prompted me to use Synch but it seems to conflict with the old image app ~ Joe
Hi Joe, I have done a video something like that already. czcams.com/video/LXhekvwfFJU/video.html Also, I've updated my firmware and both apps still works for me with my G9 and my G100.
@@ImageMaven have you compares the transfer size comparison from G9 via SD vs Wifi vs Bluetooth. Curious what those file sizes look like between the three transfer options.
I only transfer a select few images at a time via WiFi, and I only transfer them at Medium size. For a large volume of files, it's much faster to plug the camera directly into the computer for that.
Hi Marlene, thank you for your brilliant channel, my “go-to” for all things Lumix. I use my G80 for aircraft in flight and also for birds at my local nature reserve. I have an Olympus M.75-300mm ii lens for this. My success rate is reasonable, the failures are usually related to autofocus issues or, occasionally, slight camera shake (even with the G80’s IBIS active). Do you think that the Lumix 100-300mm would significantly improve my success rate, by adding DFD focusing and Dual IS? I should add that I am an experienced amateur photographer (more than 60 years behind the viewfinder), so I know what I’m doing. I trialled DFD/Dual IS with my kit lens (12-60mm) and found that Dual IS seemed to make more difference than DFD; however, things might be different with the 100-300mm. I’ll be grateful for your opinion.
Hi Rob, I wish I could answer your questions definitively. To be completely honest, my success rate isn't superb in some situations. Typically it's because of AF issues more than camera shake. I keep my shutter speed at 1/1000s all the time when using the 100-300mm. If I'm severely underexposed and my bird is stationary, I'll go down to 1/500s but that's my bottom limit. I tend to follow the old school 1/focal length rule, even with IBIS. And at 1/1000s I'm fine if the bird isn't moving. BUT Lens OIS on the 100-300 definitely helps with composing. I forgot to switch the OIS on recently when I found some bald eagles, and the viewfinder/camera/lens was so shaky I could hardly hold the lens still enough to focus. I was probably also a bit excited and that gives me the shakes some days too. I learned that lesson fast! And one other tip, if my bird is stationary, I like to use pinpoint focus. That seems to be more accurate than the Bird/Animal detection, especially when you have shallow depth of field, while looking up a tree. If the bird is in the open, and there's enough light, the Animal detection works good. Also I use BBF a lot now. Not all the time, but usually when I'm shooting birds. Anyhow, not sure I've helped you much, but it was nice to chat. Cheers.
Thank you Marlene for your fascinating reply; actually it was most helpful. I have had similar experiences, notably ‘the shakes’ when things get exciting. I tried pinpoint focusing and found that I have a personal focal length limit beyond which my shakes get the better of it. I sometimes use digital zoom at x2 (the results are often splendid, I suspect that there is pixel interpolation going on). However, at the equivalent of 1200mm, hand-held, my failure rate is quite high - with the Olympus 75-300mm. Feasibly, the Lumix 100-300mm might be quite a bit better and would make an unexpected big difference. I’m certainly pretty impressed by it after watching your review. If anyone out there has tried both lenses on a G80 (aka G85 ) body, I would be most interested in your comparison of them. Meanwhile, thank you again Marlene, it has been a pleasure to chat with you.
@@ImageMaven I have a G85 and Lumix 100-300mm lens and if the bird is not a fidgety one like the woodpecker (say an asiatic koel which stays put in one place) I have gone as low as SS 1/40 and got a clean shot...My default settings are 300mm Focal length ,F6.3 and SS 1/640 and auto ISO...having taken the first shot with this setting ,I lower the SS progressively and take a few more snaps and see if i can capture one at the lowest ISO...I shoot RAW+ JPEG and post process the raw with DXO photolab to get the best results.
Thank you for adding your expertise to this conversation Ravi! I'm sure it will help Rob and me as well!
Thank you Ravi, I would use a similar technique to yours for a sitting bird although my SS would be 1/1000 . With my Olympus 75-300mm I would expect a good success rate. By the way, I seldom use a tripod. My problem is with fast-moving or distant subjects, with which I have more failures than successes. I think that the camera’s autofocus is the main reason (both AF-C and CA-F), it is just a characteristic of Contrast Detect AF. With a distant subject, and high magnification (1200mm with digital zoom) the 5-axis IBIS is sometimes the issue as it cannot always cope with “the shakes”. In theory, the Lumix 100-300mm should give a higher success rate than my Olympus lens because it would bring DFD and Dual IS. However, I cannot be sure. I hope that someone with experience of both lenses will offer advice. Thank you again for responding, best wishes.
Thanks for this Marlene I use the 100-400 so fully get the need to brace oneself when a tripod is not possible Tell me were you in Shutter P mode or manual for this and 4K or 6K and I a
"assume" animal detect which for me on the G9 is often hit or miss - the attrition rate can be high...
For my photos I use Manual exposure mode. 1/1000s for fast moving woodpeckers. Auto ISO most of the time. And I use High speed burst (H) for birding. For my video I shoot in 4k.
@@ImageMaven Tnx Marlene I have to be careful with high iso so sometimes use Shutter P mode so that I can get a speed of 2000/2500 for v small quick birds. For everything else I use Manual mode.
Yes, I have to be careful of high ISO too. I try to stay lower than 6400, but I prefer 1600 max. I only go higher when there's no other choice. I don't usually share those photos though. They're just for me.
@@ImageMaven Yes tnx I agree !!
Sure photography is not all about technical stuff, and once you have learned the basics it becomes far less attractive. I prefer watching outdoors videos in general.
I would not imagine the local birds feeding in my hand like that. That was cute.
My garden birds won't eat out of my hand, but somehow these woodsy birds do. In fact, they flutter around and pester you until you bring out your birdseed. Thanks for your comments Laurent.
Well, you might be the crazy bird lady but your passion is rubbing off on your subscribers. It's the only hobby where my wife allows me to spy on birds with a zoom lens lol.. ATB, Damian.
Haha. Well Damian, it might be time to take your wife along on your spying adventures. Cheers!