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Zhongli C6 defender tears taste the same as I remember.
GI needs toggleable constellations like MHY's other game HI3 has toggles on some skills.
Then there would be zero downside to any of the bad cons as they could be toggled off for a given comp.
Ayato c6 gives you a gigantic nuke every 12 secs and it’s not even in the broken side 🤡🤡
but where are those who spared the monery?
Okay as much as I like Zhongli, mines is staying at C2 cuz I am not taking away Kokomi’s or Bennett’s job. Also Hu Tao hates C6 Zhongli.
I want to say, ayato's c6 is way better than you might think. It lets you get the monster to half hp way before to take advantage of your hp passive. On aoe situations this also means you can one shot a whole mob on your first hit to make the next mob instantly appear to get slaughtered. Its a very good const that makes his whole kit snowball as he gets stronger with enemies at half hp and he is already such a good aoe dps at default. The c6 cranks his aoe up pretty signficantly imo and his single target becomes very, very good. He can also nuke with it pretty hard if that's your thing
Your hp passive could very well have 100% uptime instead of him being able to barely use it on 1 rotation
As someone with a C6 Nahida, you really do not need to do triple EM at C6. She will already have enough EM with her weapon and her C4. This means that she is absolutely broken. Her C6 melts even the most powerful of enemies in just a couple seconds.
Edit: to the random dude who came under here to talk about how Yelan is better and proceeded to call me several incredibly rude terms (which CZcams seems to have automatically removed), get a life. Touch grass for like 1 second.
As a f2p i just find it astonishing how easily u just mention u have c6 a character (not in a bad way at all I’ve been struggling to save for c1 raiden and her weapon, preparing for months)
@@cu12351 as opposed to what? keeping it a secret and not telling the world?
@@cu12351 well, once I made the decision to go for it, I might as well be confident in my decision.
Rip bank account
@@sagnu745 not really. I am careful with my money usage, as I tend to like being able to afford needs. I spend within a budget always.
Btw for those who dont know, venti c6 is the same as the traveller anemo c6, making it by far the worst constellation, because at least you dont have to spend money for traveller c6
That's the first thing I noticed when I started playing the game. I was drooling over c6 5* cons and thought Ventis sounded familiar.
Doesn’t mean much, Venti’s personal damage is way higher than AMC’s
@@thicklips its about the constellations, not his dmg
@@suffering9481 of course but you can’t judge a constellation without taking account of the character’s kit
Also same as Sucrose C6.
the nice thing about c6 zhongli is that you can play full DPS Zhongli and not have to worry about shield strength because of all the constellation buffs and any damage you do take is healed
still no need for c6, with c2 alone dps build zhongli shield already infinite, and no matter how good stat you have, c6 dps zhongli will be stomped by c0~c2 other pure dps/ sub dps
@@deedee3355 not talking about dps comparisons, but playing a pure DPS zhongli is really fun and actually works surprisingly well as a driver in certain team comps. Being able to use him in that way and having shields/healing to keep the team up is awesome.
I have C6 Zhongli and IME that's not really the case. The amount healed is surprisingly small. Generally speaking, the shield on a full DPS Zhongli is still decent, but if that shield breaks the healing probably won't save you. It's best use-case is to gradually restore chip damage that you take from sloppy play while running around the world (which is totally a thing I do). But that's basically the same as just adding Barbara or Qiqi to the team and activating their skill every now and then. I would definitely say that it's one of the weakest C6s in the game. The only reason I have it is because Zhongli is my fave and I had spare primo.
@@siegekeebs just as @Fanalialae said, and dont forget, you can build him with dps stats at c2 and you can have unlimited shield, especially with 120-130%er, in the end unlimited shield means no need for healing.
@@Fanaelialae no one has "spare primo" to take a character to C6 lol, you whaled for him obviously
"Shehe's C6 has no character who can take her to truest potential"
C6 Ayaka: am I a joke to you?
Thnk you!
Wriothesley: 🙃
@@littleghast32I mean this was before him so it makes sense
So we all just coming back after Fontaine dropped huh 😂
@@kokichishares5965 yep
At c6 single Yae turret shot does almost as much damage as half of her burst.
You can literally find footage of each of her turrets hitting for 200k each when she is fully buffed.
C6 Miko main here.
Can confirm at c6 turrets are going to making up 60-70% of her total damage output, considering each constellation is tailored to making her E stronger. Miko ult still hits very very hard, but recall that is has a whole 22 second cooldown, while E turrets theoretically have 100% uptime. (There's that c6 Raiden use case you were looking for 😅).
I only wish her c6 also applied to her burst, what a feavor dream that would be.
@@Blackoutdmc While I do not have her c6, I would also want her burst to have c6 effect, considering it is by far the coolest part of her kit. Tho it would be absolutely busted considering she can already hit up to (and in rare situations over) 1mil damage with it in hyper team.
C6 Yae makes everything a walk in the park
DAYMMMMMMMM
@@Blackoutdmc or you can use c2 nahida. It benifits also yae burst and much easy to get
The problem with Childe's C6 is that his ranged burst is infinitely more useful since it gives you back energy and applies riptide, which is why it's typically cast at the _start_ of your combo. Other than nuking, his melee burst just isn't that practical, and if you're already tryharding enough to nuke with Childe's melee burst, you're probably already doing optimal rotations at which point C6 is useless.
his c1 and c6 should swap places and then rework his c6 to be actually strong-ish
but hey, i ain't paying 1200euros for a c6 :) regardless of the character
if u can use childe burst in melee stance u oneshot everything so u dont need the E after
@@axb_zero8457 Don't you see how that technically makes C6 even worse
As a Childe submain, I rlly do agree with this.
Because you will be stacking more crit rate/dmg on him, that would mean that his ER would suffer which means he won't get his burst up that often, which means that you will be fishing for more energy in his skill, which means you will eventually be losing out on DPS once it's already time to restart your rotation (having another hydro support would help but doesn't entirely solve that problem)
@@Antigen__ isnt that what i said?
i mean yea i didnt specify that i think its bad (at least when u have good artifacts which should be the case at C6)
If you on-field Nahida you want a dendro dmg cup and crit circlet. In fact, even at C0, the difference between the aforementioned build and a full EM build is not that much different for an on-field Nahida. And if you C6 her, you want to on-field her as a spread carry. Not to mention, Nahida is a very flexiable unit.
I think all C6’s have some nuance to them. Because once you get them, the role of certain characters just change. You are no longer using the same rotations that people with C0 units use. C6 of DPS units are easier to judge than that of supports and of-field damage dealers. Because once you C6 the latter, they may become a different beast. And also, the C6 allows for different play style depending on how you want to build that character. But, on a side note, for some characters it is a straight up damage increase which doesn’t change their role in the team.
Yeah I also commented... particularly on field Nahida, which is where she will usually be for her usual best team, Hyperbloom, the best build is often Kagura's Verity + Em/Dendro/Crit. Nahida only wants full EM when she is the only character who benefits from high EM, most notably Nilou Bloom, and/or has no access to EM buffs from other sources
Putting aside how broken they are, in most cases I think someone who C6's a 5* REALLY likes that character and wants to play them on-field more, so I think any C6 that can benefit that character's damage or other effects when they're on the field is a pretty good one, especially if that character is usually an off-field support/sub-dps. Yelan, Nahida, Kazuha and Kokomi in my opinion are prime examples of this, and to a lesser extent Ayaka and Ayato as well.
Eula I feel is a constellation that isn't meant to make you deal more damage, but to give you the option to swap her off and insta-proc her burst before the enemy you're trying to hit jumps or TPs away, which is a HUGE QoL imo
never thought about Eula's C6 like that, nice insight!
Ohhh, this a good point. That also kind of explains CD reduction ones like Raiden and Yoimiya (although her is C4). Dmg is certainly a factor, but they also do seem to push on-field utility.
That's why I C6'd Yelan
I just genuinely enjoy her playstyle, her abilities, her kit and obviously her aesthetics.
It also helps that she is absolutely cracked. The only time she isn't able to completely nuke the enemy solo is in multi-phase boss fights or if the enemy has full immunity to hydro damage.
@Yuu C6 Kazuha is such an amazing Anemo driver. I use him in any team I'd use Sucrose in. Unless I absolutely NEED the EM share for off-fielders. And even then. His damage difference usually makes up for it.
IMO. Playstyle changing cons should be earlier on. Since only whales can access C6, and whales generally whale to just be stronger. It would make more sense.
But Mihoyo just loves dangling that important con high up there, to convince more people to whale. It's pretty crude tbh.
As someone who has Nahida C6, it’s 100% broken, with it she can be easily used as the on field dps character, her optimal build with her weapon is EM/Dendro/Crit, shoot for around 850 EM because her C4 gives up to 150 EM, and she’ll get a bonus of 24% crit rate from her passive, so as long as you have somewhere around 30:140 crit you’d should be good to go
Wanna share the primo love 😂
c6 nahida?? in this economy??
@@pinoyyya6948 gotta waste money for characters who can do everything at C0
@@Vizible21 Projecting much? It’s only a waste to people who can’t fathom having this much disposable money to spend.
@@NutellaCrepe lvl 1 noobs in real life. /sadpandas
Characters' C6 i'm interested in (in order): Kokomi, Yelan, Yae, Raiden. Welkin-only with occasional BP, so may take a while to get there.
C6 Kokomi user here, they basically want you to buy the donut at 5 ref for that constellation. my current kokomi is C6R2 and dealing around 16k dmg, right now im running a C2 nilou bloom team with her, and the hydro res decrease effect from nilou's C2 is actually cracked when paired with kokomi. You can also go with EM kokomi to play the nilou team, but idk, I like clicking at things rather than just dodging the bloom nukes.
I hope I’m able to eventually get Kazuha’s C6
for me, it's just Yelan
@@KnightGunny Did you save or did you whale?
@@ItsYou195 got her c6 through 2 reruns
Don’t forget that nahida gets crit rate and dmg% from stacking em and on field she will get like 200 extra em so at c6 investment for sure you are using a dendro gob and crit dmg circlet, her c6 hits like a meteor. It’s like babby yelan at front loading damage.
14:30 the moment I realize you're a Genshin CZcamsr not a theorycrafter. *Very* often Nahida's BiS is Kagura's Verity. The only reason she often has an EM instead of Dendro Goblet is because her A4 already gives 80 damage%- not many people have C6 Nahida, but much like Yelan who is a powerhouse often relegated to an off field position, it takes just a small change in playstyle to make this into an absolute front loaded nuke.
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From what i have seen about Ayato's C6 i believe the extra slashes were able to activate echoes of an offering,boosting the slashes and the regular attacks themselves,also a more consistent hydro application? Do the extra slashes work with echoes anyone?
Since it's considered Shunsuiken, I do believe you can proc it. You can also vape it for crazy damage
@@pointlessfeather5830 that means Echoesof an offering would have at least one proc per attack,pretty much 5 attacks get boosted at minimum and the remaining attacks still hit hard,that would bring echoes to a much more favorable posistion compared to other consistent sets,however,c6 is a reaaaally long way for that
@@Alexis-8889 If you can get echo proc to line up with his second normal attack, both that attack and both his C6 hits will get echo buffs since they came simultaneously...assuming you're in place with good internet connection since that can mess up with echo buff tho...
10:20 *Ayaka screaming in the distance*
Ayaka C6 is not broken. BUT, I also think it's undervalued.
It's true value comes from letting you erase weaker enemies without using her burst. It makes her more useful in the overworld(consider it like Yelan's barb shot), and for multi waves of enemies.
The caveat is that you do also need Shenhe to really bring out it's potential. (yes, I'm a C6 haver)
C6 for Overworld ICANT
@@chaosinfernoid9008 to be clear, I also meant weak enemies in the Abyss. Like you can CA 1 shot the first wave of eremites on current 12-1, and then burst the 2nd wave with the kairagi.
Her C6 is definitely not worth the cost, I'm just an Ayaka simp. 😅
@@xanaviii i mean с0 ayaka easily kills them with two ca...
C6 ayaya plus shenhe buff😭 100k per slash ez🥲
I heard c6 ayaka + c6 shenhe is very broken - too bad I'll never be able to confirm this myself lmao
Everyone overestimates Zhongli's C6. It's capped at like 40% of his shield strength (because the shield breaks) which is around 40% of 12-15k HP, and it depends on the enemy hitting you hard enough, which they usually don't. It won't break his Hu Tao compatibility.
It wont ruin the comp completely. But its still not worth the money or primos it takes to C6 him.
@@papayapayama2087 As a non-whale, you C6 characters for simping purposes, not whether it's worth it.
But dunno, a little healing consolidation would be worth it to me as I run him a lot in teams without healers (mono geo or Tighnari+Yae or mono hydro).
@@ancalyme I agree. Some like the stats, while others just want the one they love.
12k? I have 45k on my dps Zhongli
@@Marvinzum his shield is a % of his HP.
Shenhe C6 and Ayaya C6 are really OP together cuz my Ayaya does 20k per slash with her charge attack when she is buffed by Shenhe (27k with Bennett). But Shenhe's buff doesn't last long so its pretty hard to keep up even with a extra skill. But Shenhe's buff will now last for 10-15 secs and Ayaya's charged attack gets a buff enough to make it as strong as a truck. I think with Shenhe and Ayaya at c6 Ayaya's charge attacks will be more stronger than the burst.
No, it doens't do more damage than her Burst, especially past C4 Ayaka when your Burst shreds 30% def for the whole party.
Except for the part where ayakas c6 is once every 10 seconds
You forgot the fact that this is how broken their C6 are in general. Shenhe is only broken with Ayaka, with Ganyu she is okay, but not that bad either. Now compare that to someone like Yelan, who's C6 will torn EVERYTHING (Except Hydro immune ones) to oblivion even without any help from others.
Well if you pair up two C6 5-star characters, your team will always be OP.
@@itsdomd0misticn00b7 well to be fair Shenhe is literally the cryo buffer. Her c6 is pretty broken for any normal/charge attack cryo character.
I love Itto’s c6 so much, I’ve never regretted getting it. Because of him I’ve 36* every abyss cycle. I think the most damage ive done with him is 373k ushi and 148k per slash against the lvl 90 raiden boss using food buffs and zhongli, c6 gorou and mona
same, got his C6 over the summer. the man can outdps a lot of my teams by himself lol
I got mine C6, too and I don't regret it. He's absolutely broken at C6. I got him like that because husbando and I'm a simp. His weapon is R2 now. I soloed with him on first chamber floor 12 phase 2 xD he died but glitched back to life.
Actually C6 Ayaka is very useful in abyss because it can clear waves of enemies without having to use her burst. And u get to save Ur burst for the next wave
As a Childe main since his first banner, I know perfectly well how little his C6 actually changes about him.
I'm still going for it, partially because I started saving for his C3 so long ago that I now simply have enough Primogems to try :D Mainly just want C3 and C5 though
Sometimes I think he's really on the middle ground. Some players think he's only playable with C6, but at the same time players KNOW that C6 doesn't change how you'd do an optimal rotation with his team
@@ren8436 Yeah I absolutely agree. His C6 just got overhyped when he was first released, and I think new players will likely just assume his C6 was that important simply because it's a 5* C6, so it HAS to be amazing, right...? (I don't blame anyone for thinking that, I was just like that back in 1.1) But in an optimal rotation it actually doesn't even do anything at all since you would want to use the ranged burst anyway.
Imo I like C6 bc it’s way more flexible and less punishing. It doesn’t add more damage, but it still help contributing damage bc you don’t have to be specific on your timing and can burst to reset your E.
@@NipahAllDay Agreed, I'll try to get it because I do like to use Childe as a main on field DPS and C6 can be nice for that. If I can get Polar Star too, that will work even better with C6, but I'm already using Thundering Pulse (which works perfectly with C1) so I won't force that. :)
as a xiao main that's trying to save up wishes to get him to c6, i'm so happy to see that his c6 is so strong (i currently got 250+ wishes saved up and let's say his rerun is during lantern rite. i'll have a lot more wishes when that time comes)
But his C2 and C4 are balls so not worth going for if you only care about performance.
@@nothmm8582 i don't care about it. I really like xiao so imma c6 him
@@kook_bunny17the C6 makes up for it don’t listen to him
There's a quick thing about your Kazuha one, Kazuha C6 actually triples his DPS even when he is used as a swap support with the same build. It's actually quite broken and also makes him a MUCH MORE better driver, while he is already good at that. In Kazuha Mains calculations, which i helped on doing those, we actually find it being one of the strongest c6 options to get since it already makes an amazing character at c0 even better. You couldve put him in a higher tier, maybe slightly higher than Hu Tao's -w-
So much whales says its not that good and that it is medicore C6 dps is the same as C2 fully support
@@Violate.. as a c6 haver, his c6 NOW deserves a higher place especially with scaramouches set, you can swirl enemies by just using a normal atk instead of a skill, there are a whole lot of little mechanisms that are also really neat,
@@jb2k043 with scara set? then that definitely means he isn't above C2 full support, with C6 faruzan and VV set he is a bit better than a full support because he can be hybrid still even tho he loses some em but a full dps no way
i feel like people forge that half of the skill dmg is actually plunge dmg too, that C6 would boost that dmg and it's already quite high when he infuse the first hit
@@Violate.. i genuinely can’t tell if you’re saying his c6 is bad or his c6 is good.. please try again with some commas and full stops, ty.
Doesn't yae get like 300% more dmg from her cons how is that not broken?
True,and ignoring defense with the elemental skill that has technically permanent uptime,that is pretty broken,keeping max dmg at all times
This is about C6 only, not the whole set of passive you ge along the way.
@@AndresLionheart but yae c6 ignores 60% of def
@@AndresLionheart well then, ganyu shouldnt be in broken place then. yae ignores 60% def. means every skill/elemental burst increased even further.
Zhongli is the co-op archon.
Kokomi in co-op is comfy too, I don't own Koko but when I see one in co-op, I am happy.
If c2
Kokomi and Zhongli C2+
if you have C2, you're kinda just there shielding only yourself and not shielding your teammates 💀💀
When have constellations. When i see zhongli in coop i just wanna quit on that team becase hes just a deadweight.
Itto's C6 I think should be higher (I know it's alright high but it's busted). Assuming anyone who has C6 will also have their weapon, so right there he has about 140 CD? Add a CD circlet and you have 240CD plus some minor CD rolls and mainly CR rolls you have probably 270CD With around 60-70 CR from his Ascension stat. NOW you take into account your team build which might be: Itto, Zhongli, Gorou, Bennet and you have around 3K ATTACK during ult. AND THEN you have his C1 which gives him 2 more stacks after ults starts to guarantee 7 hits, then the C6 could make that 10+ hits.
- 3000ATK
- 70 CR
- 270 CD (C6 Gorou makes this 310, which you probably have considering C6 Itto takes around 700 pulls?)
- Geo res shred from 2x Geo
I just consider these are whale users if they have a C6 already
Itto C6 can potentially ditch out similar damage to Eula C6 in their respective rotation, but since his doesn't come as one single big number, ppl tend to think he isn't as strong. My Itto can already do 100k per charged attack with team buff, and max he can do is around 20-24 charged attacks per burst with C6. That plus 200k ushi at the very beginning = easy 2.2 mil per burst even when I assume lower estimate. I think he should be ranked at the same level as Eula (or rather, Eula should be ranked at the same level as him since IMO, Eula C6 is overrated bcs problem with Eula is bcs majority of her damage is too concentrated into one single hit, when you face with multiple waves of enemies or boss with multiple phases, your damage potential will fall drastically outside of that single phase where you can use your burst...)
@@J-D-S Not really. Eula c6 lets you play her quickswap do you dont need to NA at all to launch off 300k-500k (if well built) nukes ( and with raiden and rosaria you have almost no energy issues so a quickswap is very viable). Her NAs also hit like a truck. Anywhere from 18k-35k per hit. And itto faces the same proble. If the enemies are spread out he cant use his burst on all of them. I have both of them c6 r5 and eula is still a tad bit better in my opinon at least
I still don't understant why Itto is "broken"... Can you pls explain this by more simple words? (I'm not good in Eng...)
@@NARIYA_HI his c6 let's him do more charged atk (since its based on probability) and also his charged atk will deal more damage. Basically more chances bonk bonk and heavy bonk bonk on enemies
@@NARIYA_HI his c6 gives him 70% cd basically and 50% chaance to not consume his stack which he needs to do the special charged atk. so normally people do 8-10 charged atks with c6 theoretically its infinite (or till burst ends) but on average u get 18-25 charged atks and each of them doing a lot more damage each
Re: Nahida C6. It's definitely much better in quicken teams (since that's when you're building nahida for her personal damage) and it's really good front loaded damage to tact on but yeah otherwise in bloom teams it's just a Nice thing that you don't have to think about since you're already aa-ing with her
I quit being f2p and C6 R5 Yelan just because her mommy design and how busted her C6 are.Not to mention her weapon is very universal
You got Jebaited by Hoyo got eeeeeem
wow, holy W
I bet that yelan is already prepared for fighting unknown god.
Wow, that's very nice !
I did the same thing bruh, considering c6 r5 Shenhe for design reasons
Funny thing with Nahida's Seed of Skandha, you can already have more than 8 existing marks at once
In fact it can even mark more than 8 enemies at once with a tap E
for some reason the 8 enemy restriction ONLY exists with the hold E alone
As a welkin only player I can’t wait to eventually c6 itto one day because of how cool he is and as a bonus his c6 is absolutely amazing! On his rerun I was uh shafted pretty hard coming out with 2 failed pitys and a single constellations meaning I just got his c1 but I’m still hopeful
Shenhe's C6 is great with C6 Ayaka. It makes her C6 hits a nuke.
C6'd Childe as soon as his first rerun arrived. Never regretted it x3
You need to do a part 2 on these types of videos for the new characters after Nahida. I think somewhere around Natlan should be ok, you'll have plenty of the new 5* to talk about ++
Worth noting that Kazuha c6 does also enable him to play as a taser driver as before c6, Sucrose would outclass him in that regard since as a catalyst user she already has infused normal attacks. Now this very much isn't worth spending money for because why spend thousands of dollars to do something a 4 star can already do at c0 but it does align closer to how Kazuha plays normally.
It makes the most fun unit in the game a viable DPS by tripling his damage so it's worth it
im currently working my way to C6 as F2P and will have to wait for a whole year still i won't regret one second of it Kazuha is too damm fun and the main reason i still play this game and put up with Hoyoverse's shit
I laughed so much during the video while it being very informative :) thank you for making my day better
I knew most of it and I am almost f2p but it was still fun to watch :)
For nilous c6 it solves blooms single target problem and you would use her onfield it’s super crazy
i have kokomi c6 and my normal attacks went from 6k hydro to 10-12k hydro but the clam set went from 25k pop to 40k pop. thats a huge boost. She does so much dmg
Cryo Keqing + Shenhe c6. Big brain.
do a review for all of Wanderer's cons when he's out! The % damage increase detail was a nice way to help undertand the impact of a particular cons to the overall DPS
I've heard that for Xiao's, there's sometimes some targeting/usability issues, the E *has* to hit 2 enemies in order to activate, and is also not easy to use either. There's a long list of pros and cons to this thing, it's busted on paper but you have to actually work for it.
I'd only like to point out the Ayaka C6 + Shenhe setup, it takes it up to another level.. if I'm understanding Ayaka's C6 correctly, then the Icy Quills damage boost is being amplified by that 298% Charged Dmg %.
So for Nahida.. she's often times played more as the on-field driver, which lowers her EM requirements in the first place. I know if I slap her onto my Nilou team, I don't even have to run the EM sands if I don't want to (getting +440 EM between her own burst, Nilou's key, and Nilou's Ascension 1). For a lot of people, they can just run their Nahida targeting 800 EM (asc stat for 115, weapon for 265, Sands for 187.. and then an average of 60 EM on each of the other pieces, not even factoring team buffs to lessen this amount) and end up with EM sands + dendro goblet + Crit circlet. As for the C6 itself.. the closest comparison is probably Yoimiya's C6, due to how it follows standard ICD, that said, it's probably close to a 25-30% total personal DPS increase for on-field Nahida.
most abyss have atleast 2+ enemies and the targeting issues is alr as u kinda have infinite e as long as u are plunging 2 enemies
I hate to be a Zhongli C6 defender, but having this constellation effectively removes de need for a healer, emptying 1 slot in your party, making tons of new comps avaliable. No other character is this versatile. He is literally in all my comps except for Raiden National.
Tbh, there's no need for a healer even with C0 Zhongli. At C0 the shield uptime is already over 100% because the duration is longer than the CD.
The game is easy, enemies barely attack the player (just stand still near some mobs and see how they take their sweet time to throw a punch, Beidou mains can relate for sure), and nothing in the game has enough damage to break a shield focused C0's Zhongli shield before its duration expires.
Taking damage at all while having access to a over 100% uptime invincible shield AND a pretty long stun type of CC that will prevent the player from being attacked is really a skill issue.
There are very few damage instances that ignore shields in the game, and for those one would probably prefer a healer anyways instead of Zhongli (like Signora's boss fight) if managing them is hard.
@@123leyang321 sobbing I'll try to parry the Kairagis big slash attack only for him to completely go in the wrong direction and I'll just have my shield up looking like an idiot
Definitely felt that as a beidou main
What's the point of healing if you won't take any damage due to his shield?
Just wait for corrosion to come back to Abyss, C6 ZhongLi cant heal in that scenario.
If you are running C0 Zhongli you already do not need a healer.
I agree with Raiden C6 points. Since most use Raiden C2+ as on-field carries, it's really weird they designed C4 and C6 to not personally buff herself at all. But yeah, perhaps someday there will be an interesting synergy.
Sometimes I just like playing my Inazuman electro women trio so it actually does help with Sara and Yae's for smoother rotations.
Idea for follwoing up on this series: Every unit that releases, “How broken are Wanderer’s constellations?” and you place them within the frame
I think the best use of Shenhe C6 is Ayaka's CA since each of the three slashes on Ayaka CA does use up one quill and in situations where you're hitting multiple enemies with it, that means you get to keep the Icy Quill buff for all of that.
Also as a C6 Ayaka haver I will agree it's kinda useless. But it's so funny that it exists as a C6 and like some other 5☆ C6 it allows you to get away with suboptimal builds.
As far as Eula's C6 goes, it isn't just about making big number bigger, but also about making big number faster. With it, you can swap out of Eula before the time runs out, while still doing the same damage as before.
C6 shenhe is one of the best and most future-proof cons ever. Also, as a C6 Nilou haver, I can freely admit that her constellations really give her the upgrade she needs regarding viability as the main DPS - be it bloom comp or any other comp. It may not be broken, but out of all cons, it gives the most profound upgrade to make an actual inviable unit decent.
@@lamyanbasagolsem626 future proof as far as if you main a cryo as your main dps. It’s very unlikely they’ll make another cryo specifc buffer for many years until all regions released. For now tho c1 Shenhe is a perfect stopping point there is no content in game where need the damage of c6 it’s overkill. I have c2 and wouldn’t go any higher than that. I just wanted the longer burst. If you don’t have Kazuha than go for him and Shenhe and that’s all the buffing for cryo dps you’ll ever need. Shenhe is extremely good for cryo characters even if you don’t have 5 star cryo. She can carry a 4 star cryo team.
@@lamyanbasagolsem626 you can play reverse melt wih shenhe rosaria xl bennet and it's good for bosses and pretty decent for aoe content as well
My C0 freeze team which is made out of kazuha/kokomi/shenhe/ayaka can clear any content in the game easily so far. You can even 9 star floor 12 with only using shenhe and ayaka and any cryo and hydro 4 stars such as rosaria,barbara,diona,xingqiu etc. Unless it's cryo enemies of course, Getting cons are always nice and makes it easier to play the character. But her best team is already locked behind getting certain 5 stars, So that should be prioritize the most for maximum value . unless you really like her character or a whale.
@@mdraj5655 Topic isn't about Ayaka. It's about Shenhe Main-DPS, Auto-Ayaka, or anything than can do Cryo Meele Attacks with Chongyun. Shenhes C6 can make any Meele into a viable DPS as well as herself. Ayaka being broken in freeze isn't the measure here. Also, Abyss isn't always "easy". Some may struggle. Other people want to see numbers with Shenhe on-field. Even if you arrange C6 shenhe with Chongyun, a full-fledged Ayaka freeze team at C0 will still outperform due it's amazing performance. But C6 Shenhe on-field becomes actually decent. Its value gets lost if you play Burst Ayaka since quills will always be consumed by Burst.
As someone who is a C6 Childe main I agree that it’s definitely not necessary to get cons unless u really want to. I mained him at C0 for more than a year and he did not disappoint ^^ what I do like about C6 is the flexibility of being able to use melee even more, which is my favorite part of his playstyle.
Seconded, he's definitely one of those characters you really only need cons for if you like staring at him. I think an argument could be made for C1 being worth it for the CD decrease, but past that, let's all admit it's just because we love the goofball.
Childe's c6 is perfectly fine coz with c6 you also get every other constellation that backs 1 ranged at the start and 1 melee at the end of his rotation. Add his signature bow that needs the character to use burst, skill, charged and normal AA, it's a perfect but expensive match.
Personally, I love Zhongli’s C6 and haven’t regretted getting it for a moment, but I absolutely agree with you, it’s shit.
I'm curious, would you ever do a "Best 4 Star C1/2/4/6"? since they're less *broken* than 5 star characters? Regardless of your answer, I love your content! Yet another amazing and informative video.
ehm... look at C6 Xinqiu, there are plenty of 4star C6 that are extremely powerful.
C6 noelle can get at the same level of C0 Xiao
C6 xinqiu make him perfect for vaporise units and boost his dmg by 40% basically
C6 Yanfei is pretty good too making her a very good DPS
C6 Fischl is extremely powerful too if you have a very fast attacker(like Childe in the original firework team)
C6 Xiangling make her burst stay longer
Sucrose give a very good boost in team damage too
and probably a lot more that are not coming to my mind now
C6 gorou? C6 Rosaria? C6 Sayu? there are probably more C6 4star that are broken than 5 star. but at the same time there are a lot of 4 star that their kit is mosty locked behind constellations or that become much more viable with some constellation(C1 bennet) and others that need C6 to be viable(see Noelle)
great video! you should do one about r5 signature weapons
The Eula explaination was gold😂
This may be very wishful of me but I really wish when a character banner drops and we get a trial version, it would be nice if we could try their different constellations to see if we like it. Generally if someone is c6ing a character they’ll do it regardless I guess, but for example Xiaos constellation6 makes him totally different to play. I’m too pleb to actually seriously consider getting it but I also kind of want to see if I’d even like playing it at all.
Anyone can take advantage of C6 Shenhe when you pair her with her nephew! ^_^
Is chongyun good with her ?
@@lamyanbasagolsem626 Absolutely. He can utilize both of Shenhes buffs well and can allow Shenhe to buff other characters who have weak basic attacks. Although generally if you're running Chong with Shen then Chong will be the main dps anyway.
C6 Tighnari owner. They did really well with all his cons imo. Glad to see him be rated as such
FINALLY THE VID WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR
They really need to rework how some constellations work. I think they should all grant something good, instead of something miniscule like adding x% of damage to this, x% crit rate for that, and maybe make some constellations better as well. Too bad so far, seems like they don't plan on reworking something in the game considering the only thing that's been buffed was Zhongli's shield.
As a F2P Childe Main, him having overall, shit constellations, is very satisfying.
I have a C0 Nahida and with a second 1k EM teammate like Raiden you only need ~750-800 EM on her to reach 1k on-field.
This enables me to run a Dendro Goblet and Crit Rate helmet. She already hits like a semi truck, even though I don't have great crit substats, because my EM artifacts are mostly trash, sooo... yeah.
Great video! Just a ui suggestion to help make your videos better coming from a graphic designer/typographer-don’t have those call-outs (the banners that make a cranking noise with an exclamation mark and move on-screen) cover the constellation descriptions or anything you want read on screen. Your viewer will be trying to read the constellation description but then it gets covered and leaves the viewer distracted. I would reposition those or think of a different scale or format in which you make them. Thanks! Love watching your vids!
I always wondered why klees elemental burst doesn't work off field, she would be such an amazing enabler
If klee ult could last off field should would be one of, if not, the best pyro dps in the game and I will die fighting that. I would love seeing the devs improve older characters like that.
@@FishStyx i mean why shouldn't it be this way, we have xia gling who is way better. We have hydro enabler like yelan and xingq klees ultimate is way weaker and they can also nerf it a little bit if they make it work offfield.
This gave me the spark and motivation again to just save for Eula's rerun. Gahd C6 Eula is totally a dream 💙
I wish you luck on obtaining that mother of all nukes one day!
It’s quite overkill lol
@@dragunarah8695 her c6 makes her very very flexible you will never need to fully build stacks after her c6 saving a lot of time as you never need over 2 million damage
@@dragunarah8695 its not, i have her at c3 and she cant one shot bosses
Yet
@@_hector__ I got c0 and hit 500k overworld
As a ayaya C6 haver I will say seeing my CA doing 6 digits at all times is very nice. Especially when speed running. It’s an underrated con in my opinion
I have C6 Ayaka!! Her C6 isn't earth shattering, but it is fun. One of the people on my friendslist has a really great Shenhe and between their Shenhe and Bennett and my Ayaka and Kazuha, one of Ayaka's charged attacks hit for a little over 100k. It takes a bit of time to "reload" though, so like... It does give you extra damage but not by much. And the effect will clear even if you don't deal damage, like if you use it on an Abyss Mage shield. Then you have to wait 10 more seconds.
It's not broken, but I'd say it's just a bit more to the right from the middle. Very fun and satisfying, but not much more than that.
The analogy at 6:14 will really makes sense once you get that C6. God, I'm so glad that I got C6 Eula from my insane luck.
How lucky you were?
@@aaronlaorrabaquio4230 hoyo is lucky since you know....
Zhongli's knobbly C6 knees taste the same as I remember...
C6 Yelan makes everything a breeze and hits like a truck lol. Highly recommend.
c6 Eula is honestly my favorite its overkill but attempting over and over to break my current personal best nuke is just a ton of fun for me
For c6 zhongli if you play hu tao right it'll be fine. C6 zhongli is one of my favorites honestly top 4 favorite c6 I got are Ganyu, Yae, Zhongli and Shenhe.
I want to get C6 Zhongli because even with his C2 and shield I still get hit sometimes lmao.
I can’t stand having less than 100% health at all times!
I let my shield drop alllllll the time, especially in the overworld. So having this con to encourage me to be even more lazy sounds great!
I had a big laugh realizing that my maplestory was not playing the music but your vid was
Kazuha's C6 dramatically increases his E plunge damage. Combined with swirl and the fact that his C2 automatically buffs his EM, and it's super good
I want to say, ayato's c6 is way better than you might think. It lets you get the monster to half hp way before to take advantage of your hp passive. On aoe situations this also means you can one shot a whole mob on your first hit to make the next mob instantly appear to get slaughtered. Its a very good const that makes his whole kit snowball as he gets stronger with enemies at half hp and he is already such a good aoe dps at default. The c6 cranks his aoe up pretty signficantly imo and his single target becomes very, very good. He can also nuke with it pretty hard if that's your thing
Your hp passive could very well be a 100% uptime instead of him barely taking advantage of it in 1 rotation
Yup, c6 ayato is busted af.
Yeah it packs, with his c2 my HP gets to 40k, and I prefer to use refined Jade cutter as it’s super good and since Haran relies on other teammates in a 4 person co op, Jade also gives more atk. But yeah he deserves to be way higher
I’m guessing the next part of this series will be 4 stars or Haha funny C3s and C5s.
Coming back here after 4.1 and yes, C6 Shenhe would be EXTREMELY broken when teamed with Wriothesley.
Worth noting for Ayaka c6. If you use Shenhe with c6 Ayaka, it becomes an insanely busted constellation. Also as a c6 Nahida owner, Nahida c6 provides burst damage just short of Yelan's c6 (I have that one too, so I can compare). A c6 Nahida just doesn't need to stack 3 EM pieces and can easily get away with using just an EM sands, provided you have her weapon at any refinement. She can hit 1000EM with an EM, Dendro dmg, crit setup thanks to her previous constellations and also being on field during her c6's activation period.
I don't think venti's constellations are broken by any means, but I'd like to point out that people going for his c6 (that aren't whaling for everyone) will likely build him as a dps --- thats me, im the venti main with aqua simulacra and c4, eventually to be c6 and going to pull every bow in this game for him.
Must be pain against huge enemies. But godly against crowd. Also it's stupid going for every bow, just pick the strongest one for Dps. Skyward Harp R5 is prolly really good for general Dps Builld. Because it boosts anything, Simulacra has Low Base Attack for a 5 Star Bow, dont forget that. For a Charged Attack prolly Hunters Path, it's also gives Elemental Bonus and huge Crit Rate Boost.
@@chaosinfernoid9008 I’ve used venti enough to learn how to deal with big bosses so dw about that. Also, I’m very aware of the strengths of each bow and I am collecting them for fun in a reasonable pace. I got aqua cuz it was the first to have a banner, and since thundering pulse is also a crit dmg weapon I’m skipping it for now. I will pull polar star though, since it’s his best bow actually. Also, due to aqua’s dmg passive it’s actually not that behind polar star and harp. And sadly I don’t have a single harp, standard banner hates me and gave me two fucking monas in a roll and amos before that. But when harp get a banner I am totally pulling at least two copies cuz harp is venti’s signature weapon lore wise (I will eventually pull elegy too, but it’s not as a high priority). And since I have tighnari I will also eventually pull hunter’s path, tho I don’t think it’s as strong as other bows on crit venti.
I am happy with Shenhe's placing so I will lower the remote to the orbital laser now:D
Jokes aside. I think the biggest miss you did was Yelan C6 not being top of the top broken. I have seen videos of her C6 and oh boy.
Kazuha c6 can literally become a driver and open so many new team as well as becoming dps thou
That opening is a personal attack on me because I just dropped my phone in disgust after being wiped out (for the 4th time) by Scara world boss because of my slow iPhone 10
If I could only pick one 5 star to have at c6 it would definitely be Shenhe, while not the *strongest* the fact you can make basically any char in the game into a pretty damn strong onfield cryo dps just sounds so fun.
Would prolly just end up using on it Shenhe herself tho since I find her design such a waste to be relegated to E + Q support.
Even more viable if you pair her with Chongyun. Then any melee unit becomes a viable cryo dps.
@@amandaslough125 Yeah that's what I meant
imo, both zhongli's and raiden's c6 gain the most value in coop, and while zhongli's is extremely nice to have, especially in situations when you go without a healer, raiden's is just a nice bonus for the team (and paired with c2/c6 zhongli literally makes you immortal cuz you can spam your shield like crazy). as someone who plays a lot of coop, I'll definitely go for c6 zhongli next rerun, not to mention it might come in pretty handy in the abyss for a no-healer team.
3:50 for xiao's best team, he needs jean as a healer. C6 Zhongli can fix that problem, doing so that u can use. Acharacter like kazuha instead, HUGE DPS increase.
9 months later, a certain upcoming character in 4.1 knocking at Shenhe's door:
I find it weird that Yelan was put under the likes of Xiao and Ganyu it's debatable regarding eula but not the other two this mastermind state lasts 20 seconds you can backload it and do a full team rotation then unleash this DPS and by nature Yelan is the most flexible 5* we have because if we include her previous cons because she's technically C6 she just makes Xingqiu look like a weak character when in reality he's probably the best 4* but Yelan at full potential is even more broken
Good points, crazy run on sentence my guy. Add some periods looool
Love the Maplestory background music!!
Love the music choice
Ayatos C6 IS really broken. It deals massive dmg😨
C6 nahida is on the stronger side if you look at all the other constelations. you can easily hit 1000EM 45cr (+25cr from the passive) and 200 cdmg if you have good artifacts. Most of her dmg comes from her skill (personal dmg) something that gets boosted way up with her c6 and reactions. Also the other cons allow nahida to run an EM Dendro Crit setup (still allows you to get the before mentioned stats) that will also boost her DPS with her c6 she transforms form an support ot an really good dps character.
Loki this is funny considering they made a Great wolfhound and wolf spam for the entire second half of floor 12 spiral abyss, healers are mandatory in many ways now
The day the cryo archon releases, shenhe c6 will become absurdly powerful. Imagine a main dps, normal attacking cryo catalyst with infinite icy quills on top of the standard absurd archon damage...bruh. Even if they arent a catalyst, itll still be absurd.
I think Nilou's C6 was meant to be enabled by Nahida's C2 (the one that makes Bloom Cores able to Crit), so you won't see much Value off of it until you get Nahida's C2
What do you mean enabled by Nahida C2, if it was the bloom? no Nahida C2 can only make bloom have 20% crit and can't be increased by anything in the game. Or there was another that i don't know about?
All the more reason to conclude its garbage
Nilou’s C6 exists almost entirely to make her deal more personal damage with her burst and skill. Nahida’s C2 locks blooms at a 20:100 crit ratio. A character’s personal crit value does not affect the buff Nahida gives with her C2.
Her c6 exists to enable her as a better carry or more viable in vape teams. Add that and her c2 and it makes complete sense
As much as I love Xiao, his condition to have to have at least 2 enemies makes it not as valuable as some might think. Sure, that doesn’t mean that I wouldn’t want to have it; the gameplay will drastically change and it sounds like a lot of fun. Ik we might be only talking about the C6 itself but with it C1-C5 also comes along. When taking that into consideration (and also his lack of good teammates compared to some other characters) overall Xiao unfortunately falls a bit behind dps wise compared to other C6’. There is a video of IWTL that shows that a C6 R5 Yelan was faster at clearing floor 12 than Xiao best team with all C6 R5 were. Sure the abyss favored Yelan at the time and this comparison shouldn’t be decisive for everything but shows a bit of power creep in Constellations. (I hope it does’t sound like I just think IWTL is always right and superior to other creators. I just took him as an example. There are also some other characters who I’d rate slightly different due to dps calculations on trustable softwares and theory crafters but the rating of Xiao was the one I wanted to concentrate on.
With faruzan things change for xiao
@@Mrmume6824 please don‘t spread leaks
@@miyuna_k that wasn't the purpose
@@miyuna_k you'll find eventually anyways
@@Mrmume6824 don’t apologize it’s their fault for reading all that bullshit
I didn't realize until now that they made nilou c6 with nahida c2 in mind, the extra crit stats are probably for the blooms to crit
C6 Ayaka Combos very well with Shenhe, bcs the Damage Buff also increases the Buff of Shenhe, often times allowing Ayakas Charged Attacks to clear entire Abyss waves.
What would you suggest as a good C6 for Zhongli? Just curious
I'd say it would be great if he could get more damage out of his HP. He already has more than enough shield, so making so that you can about double the damage of his Burst would be good. Good, not broken.
Personally, I still remember near the end of his character intro video they showed him petrifying the enemies with his meteor and then shattering them with his skill. I think something like that would have been really cool. Wouldn't need to be an insta-kill (which is what it looks like in the video). Just a cool interaction, with enough damage to hopefully make him a competitive on field DPS.
Heck, they could have stuck with healing, just made it meaningful. Maybe when his shield breaks, you'd get a Regen effect for a short time, to cushion you until you get the shield back up.
With the actual C6, if you play well and keep his shield active 100%, the constellation literally does nothing. And the amount of healing that it grants is so small that it doesn't make a noticable difference in those situations where you would take damage anyway, like with Rift Hounds.
Any c6 that changes the way a character operates is a good c6 to me. Currently he's an extremely good off field support, so any c6 that could make him an on field dps, or a better healer, would be high value.
Personally I already think his c6 is crazy and doesn't need to change, BUT if it did I'd say either make the healing just a flat heal over time while shielded, or make his basics hp scaling geo infused while he has a shield up
Why so much love for c6 Xiao? While it's good for him and improves his damage, his damage ceiling is still fairly low compared to other characters at c6. (Yelan c6 solo clears faster than a fully stacked c6 xiao team played by best xiao player, c6 nahida also, and I'm sure there's more)
He is availing the constellations not the character and the problem you pointed out is Xiao low DMG compared to others 5★ his constellation still broken even if he isn't.
@@deizman3501 good point! Thanks
If you point out the video where IWTL with c6 Yelan was faster than c6 Xiao with full team in Abyss 12 2.7.
I have to point out that all levels only had 1 opponent.
Xiao's c6 was therefore completely useless.
Nevertheless, c6 Yelan is currently the strongest character.
This is not only because of c6, but because every constellation is broken.
Xiao c2 & c4 are as useless as a hedgehog in the condom factory...
Yeah, if I had the money I would C6 Yelan instead of someone like Xiao. Plus Yelan is way more versatile.
Damage aside, it's also just one of the coolest constellations in the game since it makes playing the character a lot more fun. The amount of constellation you get for his C6 is a lot more than most C6s.
Nahida has been out for long enough for you to have the information to not miss the mark at the end.
C6R2 Nahida owner. In a team of Yae, Kazuha, and tighnari for resonance (All C0), she has a base EM and Atk of 907/1346, 50/110 Crit, and Dendro bonus of 89.6% w a 2pc gilded/deepwood. after swirling electro, procing aggravate and using her burst, EM shoots to 1307 and each attack from her C6 deals around 60k damage.
This may not sound like a lot compared to Eula or other main dps, but that’s 60k x 6, dealt to up to 8 opponents. That’s a total of nearly 3 million damage under the right circumstances, without anyone applying a dendro debuff
Use kagura and adjust sub stat to em and crit, wear 4 pieces dream let someone wear deepwood in the same team, then you should be able to increase her output to 120k or above
I think you miss the fact. Venti can decrease pyro, hydro, electro and cyro resistance too. It not great especially as C6. But better than shit.
Nope he included it when he said it increases his em build damage, mind paying attention a little more?
Not the Venti defenders again lmao
@@menage2769 but he did not add that it can also increase ganyu, ayaka, diluc, and most of venti teammates which is more important than his personal damage. Mind paying attention more.
@@moonstone9486 What are you talking about? I said his C6 is not good. The reason I comment because he miss information important to judge his C6.
@@gss0097 i am not saying it doesn’t but the fact that it was clearly specified and written and edited in to the video literally means that he already knows wth, and even then kazuha exists. Like who would ever use venti, miss mind paying more attention?