The Downfall of the St. Louis Rams

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  • čas přidán 8. 11. 2020
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Komentáře • 513

  • @BlackFlagsMatter
    @BlackFlagsMatter Před 3 lety +246

    St.Louis Rams: 1995-2015/thanks for having me on btw.

    • @thefossillcave
      @thefossillcave Před 3 lety

      How about we have Maroots on another podcast 🤫

    • @MarchOnRome
      @MarchOnRome Před 3 lety +4

      Your username is HIGHLY offensive, and racist!

    • @michaelhoward6076
      @michaelhoward6076 Před 3 lety +4

      @@MarchOnRome how 😂

    • @BlackFlagsMatter
      @BlackFlagsMatter Před 3 lety +8

      @@MarchOnRome L. Learn what the "Black Flag" means in racing then talk.

    • @BlackFlagsMatter
      @BlackFlagsMatter Před 3 lety +6

      @@MarchOnRome When you make assumptions you make an ass out of yourself. The name is a funny play on words, it’s not political satire. I know what the intentions of the name are, nobody is mocking anything lmao.
      Also, BLACK LIVES MATTER ✊🏽

  • @christopherjustice6411
    @christopherjustice6411 Před 3 lety +56

    I sympathize with St. Louis for getting screwed over by the NFL twice. But let’s be honest, a small market like St. Louis never had a chance to take a team from a big market like Los Angeles and hold on to it. It was cruel to move the Rams in 95, it deprived LA of its franchise and it got St. Louis’s hopes up. What should’ve happened in 95 is the Rams staying in LA and St. Louis getting an expansion team.

    • @mamaluigi2064
      @mamaluigi2064 Před rokem

      older Rams fans hate that bitch Georgia Frontier what St. Louis thinks of Stan kroenke older Rams fans think Georgia Frontier the exact same way

    • @klicka83
      @klicka83 Před rokem +1

      St. Louis almost got an expansion team the stallions

    • @kaneviktorovich99
      @kaneviktorovich99 Před rokem +4

      how is a city and county with 1.3 million (2.8 metro pop) small market?

    • @christopherjustice6411
      @christopherjustice6411 Před rokem +5

      @@kaneviktorovich99 Compared to LA? That’s tiny.

    • @stephenbrand5661
      @stephenbrand5661 Před rokem

      @Kane Victorovich Because that population size means there are 20 other markets in the US that are bigger.

  • @djtrankilo231
    @djtrankilo231 Před 3 lety +105

    0:55 wrong! They were already the Chicago Cardinals before moving to St. Louis. They only kept the Cardinals name to appeal to the baseball fans.

    • @julianbell9161
      @julianbell9161 Před 3 lety +18

      This is true. The Cardinals and the Bears are actually the 2 oldest teams in the NFL

    • @markrobertson2196
      @markrobertson2196 Před 3 lety +2

      Absolutely correct

    • @djtrankilo231
      @djtrankilo231 Před 2 lety +6

      @@julianbell9161 the Cardinals are actually the oldest team in the NFL. They were created before the 20th century

    • @colby7609
      @colby7609 Před rokem

      @@julianbell9161 This guy is clueless, and rarely states facts.

  • @tonatiuhnino3711
    @tonatiuhnino3711 Před 3 lety +148

    That crappy logo they have now was enough of a downfall for the Rams.

    • @JonathanGaeta
      @JonathanGaeta Před 3 lety +16

      The new logo looks like a parody Chargers logo, and I see it as a dumpster fire. The old logo was enough and better

    • @bradleggey5508
      @bradleggey5508 Před 3 lety +8

      the birthday cake numbers on their backs are the worst

    • @silverwheel
      @silverwheel Před 3 lety +3

      and the new unis are straight out of the MAC.

    • @jdmcknight41
      @jdmcknight41 Před 3 lety +1

      @@bradleggey5508 those numbers look like something , out of sesame , street , and the color scheme from the home jerseys look like fubu jerseys...

    • @michaelschneider9141
      @michaelschneider9141 Před 3 lety +6

      The uniforms are fire imo. I love them. The LA logo is shit, but the Ram head I like

  • @zackherman22222222DE
    @zackherman22222222DE Před 3 lety +47

    Cardinals are the oldest team in the NFL founded in 1898 in Chicago. Not 1960

    • @isaiahmacias5276
      @isaiahmacias5276 Před 3 lety

      Founded but joined In 1960 as NFC

    • @zackherman22222222DE
      @zackherman22222222DE Před 3 lety

      @@isaiahmacias5276 He said founded though so in context, I am right

    • @isaiahmacias5276
      @isaiahmacias5276 Před 3 lety +1

      @@zackherman22222222DE technically yes but really no there one of the younger few but there oldest before nfl was a thing

    • @rspister
      @rspister Před 3 lety +3

      @@isaiahmacias5276 did the NFC exist before 1960? They were in the NFL. That’s the point.

    • @isaiahmacias5276
      @isaiahmacias5276 Před 3 lety +1

      @@rspister yes

  • @jbaskinger41
    @jbaskinger41 Před 3 lety +62

    A thing people forget is that St. Louis nearly got the New England Patriots back in 1993 and nearly renamed themselves the to the St.Louis Stallions. If it was not for Robert Kraft buying the team, St. Louis might have gotten a dynasty or just another downfall team.

  • @Shawn_Babcock
    @Shawn_Babcock Před 3 lety +25

    The Cardinals actually came from Chicago and started playing there on 1898. The name came from their uniforms when the owner declared "They're not maroon! They're Cardinal red!". They moved to St Louis in 1960, then to Phoenix in 1988.

    • @thederpyhuman4147
      @thederpyhuman4147 Před rokem

      fr, they did take advantage of having the same name though

    • @jpmnky
      @jpmnky Před rokem

      Their one of the oldest teams in the NFL. Crazy how little they’ve done in all those decades.

  • @DeadAir21
    @DeadAir21 Před 3 lety +36

    They left out a lot of important details in why they left. Any one who lived in St Louis during that time knows that both Stan Kroenke and that NFL were plotting to move them back as soon as he became majority owner and the city never has a chance to keep them.

    • @rspister
      @rspister Před 2 lety +2

      They also left out how much money Stl gave GF and the top tier clause.

    • @IsaiahWring
      @IsaiahWring Před rokem

      Its alright. We have the XFL

  • @slicer7713
    @slicer7713 Před 3 lety +212

    The city of St. Louis is loyal to their teams. It was the rams and nfl in general that gave up on the city.

    • @97NikeSb
      @97NikeSb Před 3 lety +21

      Y’all stopped showing up the games. STL is a baseball town.

    • @slicer7713
      @slicer7713 Před 3 lety +24

      100% not true. we still showed up. That is a hell of a lot more than I can say for the team's effort.

    • @97NikeSb
      @97NikeSb Před 3 lety +6

      @@slicer7713 no y’all didn’t we all saw the games on tv and saw the attendance numbers. Y’all stopped showing up plain and simple. The team was gonna be cheeks under Fisher regardless and they weren’t gonna turn it around until he was gone

    • @97NikeSb
      @97NikeSb Před 3 lety +5

      @@night6724 yes I know about the rams being terrible because I’m a fan as well and I literally said they would have been terrible under fisher until they got rid of him. The NFL has been wanting to come back to LA and he wasn’t gonna get the tax payers to pay for it. Not like STL was gonna fund another stadium on top of still paying for the Edward jones. STL fans shouldn’t be bitter about the rams coming back to LA because the truth is Georgia took the Rams to STL simply because it’s her hometown when the Rams had no connection to STL and snatched them away from there true home. And just like Kroneke, she didn’t bother to have real discussions on building a stadium here like Kronke didn’t bother to have talks in STL. I’m a rams fan regardless of their location but simple put the rams were a terribly run organization and the fans stopped showing up. Les Snead was gonna get canned soon before he turned it around. Also it’s like like they found immediate success here in LA they still had fisher the first year and signed him to an extension right before finally firing him

    • @ZiggyZou
      @ZiggyZou Před 3 lety +1

      Not really as a Chiefs fan, I had buddies in college that said you guys just stopped going, and didn’t really care. Which is sad cause I loved the dome.

  • @ryanpoulos5139
    @ryanpoulos5139 Před 3 lety +58

    How is this dude not CZcams famous yet, high quality videos

    • @MrManfly
      @MrManfly Před 2 lety

      and I think they should move either the Jags or the Chargers to St. Louis! they can play in the old stadium for now but they MUST build a new one and the two outdoor renderings that I saw on here look pretty nice !!

    • @1999bill1999
      @1999bill1999 Před 11 měsíci

      Because he doesn’t know his history

    • @1999bill1999
      @1999bill1999 Před 11 měsíci

      @@MrManflySt. Louis doesn’t deserve anything. They can’t keep their promises

  • @mclovin2155
    @mclovin2155 Před 3 lety +37

    Except that the Arizona Cardinals were the Chicago Cardinals before they moved St. Louis. Kind of made your baseball joke sound dumb.

  • @Dixonhill36
    @Dixonhill36 Před 2 lety +14

    As an LA Rams fan (back from the 1980s), I'd say that it'd be great for St. Louis to get a team, but I'd hate to see a team relocate for it to happen. That being said, you're absolutely right that it doesn't make sense for Jacksonville to have an NFL team, and if they were to relocate St. Louis would make sense. I'd much prefer St. Louis to London. Best of luck St. Louis.

    • @thelivingear990
      @thelivingear990 Před 5 měsíci

      Oddly enough it was either Jacksonville or carolina that beat St. Louis during the expansion that year.

  • @BennyBoy90
    @BennyBoy90 Před 3 lety +8

    I remember moving to St. Louis as a kid in 1997 and as a 7 year old picking the god awful rams as my NFL team and then in 98 we had the mark McGwire home run chase and in 99’ the greatest turn around in sports history.. for one brief shining moment ALL eyes were on St. Louis 😔 I’ll always have those 98-01 years that nothing will ever come close to as a St. Louis sports fan.

  • @jordant_330
    @jordant_330 Před 3 lety +21

    You can say, “St. Louis gave up on the rams”. If out of 21 years your team makes the playoffs 5 times I wouldn’t be jazzed either about them. Still this is a sports town we’ll do anything for the Cardinals and Blues

    • @rspister
      @rspister Před 2 lety +2

      So Stl was a bandwagoning town when it came to the Rams?

    • @edge032
      @edge032 Před 2 lety +6

      @@rspister yeah, I guess if you consider 11 consecutive seasons of sellouts at the Dome to be bAndWaGOn. That would be 95 total games. There was a sh*t ton of some of the worst football in NFL history in those years too. Wasn’t really until it became apparent that Enos Kroenke was intentionally trying to tank the team to help his case to move that fan support began to drop off.

    • @rspister
      @rspister Před 2 lety

      @@edge032 glad you agree they’re a city of bandwagoners. 👍

    • @edge032
      @edge032 Před 2 lety +1

      hahahaha…HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!🥴🤡🤡🤡

    • @rspister
      @rspister Před 2 lety

      @@edge032 the irony. 😁

  • @nickmiller2065
    @nickmiller2065 Před 3 lety +19

    Cardinals were named after the jerseys getting screwed up, not because of the baseball team.

  • @FWJosh43
    @FWJosh43 Před 3 lety +8

    Kroenke turned the team to shit on purpose so fans wouldn't show up and he could use it as an excuse for leaving.

    • @ritchietodd409
      @ritchietodd409 Před 3 lety +2

      Same as Clay Bennett did to Seattle with the Sonics.

    • @chrisblane8877
      @chrisblane8877 Před 3 měsíci +1

      As Georgia did with the rams before they left. Once Dickerson left, what did we have? Don't forget she left the coliseum to go to Anaheim to further piss off the LA fans. The movie Major League was based off the stuff she was pulling to justify moving the team to Stl. She did everything in her power to disconnect the team from LA, not to mention they played in a baseball stadium and drafting Bettis was the last halfway decent thing they did prior to leaving.

  • @Xolanidj
    @Xolanidj Před 2 lety +5

    I lived across the street from the Dome when the Battlehawks were there, and it was crazy. It most definitely showed that the people of STL would support a NFL team more than ever. I wanted to go to a Battlehawks game for my birthday, but everything was shutdown by then.

  • @chamberlainquench2484
    @chamberlainquench2484 Před 3 lety +9

    I actually attended the last game in St. Louis. It was a pretty good experience honestly. The fans really wanted the rams to stay. I saw signs everywhere from fans for them to stay. It was beautiful watching Todd Gurley run the ball. And there defense was fun to watch especially with Famous Jameis throwing them the ball to them. It’s sad that we never got to see them go back to the super bowl while they were in St. Louis.

    • @ibn1989
      @ibn1989 Před rokem

      I was at that game too. It was pretty bittersweet.

  • @nickb2912
    @nickb2912 Před 3 lety +6

    I don't think St. Louis was the problem at all. The Rams franchise belonged to LA and the main problems were the stadium and the ownership. If the NFL expands St. Louis should be a leading candidate.

    • @nelsonbergman7706
      @nelsonbergman7706 Před 6 měsíci

      Just for facts. The Rams were originally from Cleveland. Moving to LA in 1946

  • @brycesanders7132
    @brycesanders7132 Před 3 lety +4

    The on the water stadium in St.Louis would have been sweet. No reason for STL not to have a football team one way or another.

    • @Gage_Brumley
      @Gage_Brumley Před 2 lety

      Hopefully they reuse that riverfront stadium idea if STL were to get a football team again. The Dome works great for concerts/conventions but it's far too outdated for the NFL now.

  • @coreylevine3856
    @coreylevine3856 Před 3 lety +8

    The NFL never want the Rams to leave LA they want the Raiders to leave

    • @oscaru5342
      @oscaru5342 Před rokem +1

      @Corey Levine, Mission Accomplished!

  • @elchris8788
    @elchris8788 Před 3 lety +8

    The Cardinals started in Chicago and the name was because of the uniforms

  • @mamaluigi2064
    @mamaluigi2064 Před rokem +2

    What people from St. Louis think of Stan kroenke now is what older for Rams fans like myself think of Georgia Frontier

  • @UserName-ts3sp
    @UserName-ts3sp Před 3 lety +9

    first part... no, the cardinals moved from chicago to st. louis in 1960. they, along with the bears, are the only 2 original nfl teams still around

  • @MightyDucks25
    @MightyDucks25 Před 3 lety +18

    The Cardinals moved to St. Louis from Chicago. In Chicago, they were called the Chicago Cardinals. They were NOT named after the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team. Please do your research!

  • @Demi-kid
    @Demi-kid Před 3 lety +9

    Ahh the concrete stadium.
    I dont remember how many players got injured that stadium.

  • @bakalicious314
    @bakalicious314 Před 3 lety +30

    Could you do the Downfall of Virginia Tech?

  • @hiphopotamus69
    @hiphopotamus69 Před 3 lety +6

    F’s in the chat for Stevan Jackson’s wasted career

  • @joshuasweeney7864
    @joshuasweeney7864 Před 3 lety +8

    The NFL should just Integrate the Battlehawks “Super Bowl Champion Battlehawks” would be metal AF

    • @Babyboythaboss
      @Babyboythaboss Před 3 lety

      I agree st.louis battlehawks would be a perfect marriage as long as we're in nfc west i want to see la lamesheeps suffer by us every year and decade

  • @user-vr8ul3fd7d
    @user-vr8ul3fd7d Před 3 lety +9

    They were the Chicago cardinals before they moved to St Louis. That's why they were called the cardinals. Cards are the oldest team in the NFL

    • @0fficialdregs
      @0fficialdregs Před 3 lety +1

      no, they're one of the oldest sharing that stat with the bears

  • @LordM17
    @LordM17 Před 3 lety +3

    great history in st louis? they had like a decent 5 yr run, with 3 yrs being good, the other 2 average. and thats it.

  • @bjnt92281
    @bjnt92281 Před 3 lety +2

    St. Louis was supposed to get an expansion team in 95 but lost out to Carolina and Jacksonville. It would be ironic if the Jaguars ended up moving there considering that if the NFL had just awarded a team to St. Louis instead of Jacksonville maybe the Rams would have stayed in LA and gotten a new stadium along with a Super Bowl.

  • @LCE040490
    @LCE040490 Před 3 lety +3

    St Louis got screwed over by the nfl

  • @farpointgamingdirect
    @farpointgamingdirect Před 3 lety +5

    The Cardinals were not established in 1960. They moved to St Louis from Chicago. The team was founded as the Morgan Athletic Club in 1898, and is the oldest continuously run professional football team in the United States.
    And the Rams originally played in Cleveland.

    • @0fficialdregs
      @0fficialdregs Před 3 lety

      agreed

    • @muzikdude1188
      @muzikdude1188 Před 7 měsíci

      Correct. The Cardinals had been an NFL team since the league's founding in 1920 but found themselves always being overshadowed by the Bears in Chicago. This more than anything is what prompted their move to St. Louis in 1960.

  • @spartanworrior4519
    @spartanworrior4519 Před 3 lety +11

    Oakland, San Diego and St Louis should all get teams back

    • @flashedwheat6783
      @flashedwheat6783 Před 3 lety +2

      Miss my saint Louis Rams 😭😭😭

    • @viewernewest
      @viewernewest Před 3 lety

      As dirty as the owners and the league did them, I doubt the NFL would ever be welcome back in those cities ever again. I say this as a salty citizen of St. Louis Missouri.

    • @robertevbayekha6639
      @robertevbayekha6639 Před 3 lety

      @@flashedwheat6783 but rams was in cleveland but now have the browns BUT RAMS WAS HERE IN LA BEFORE ST.LOUIS

  • @NewAgeNess
    @NewAgeNess Před 3 lety +6

    I think more of the St. Louis Rams downfall comes from the lack of proper function as an organization. But as soon as they move to LA the Organization flips everything right around! Kroenke let that team be shit so he would have enough reason to move them imo
    PS: I need a longer video. As a St. Louis Native it is cringy to hear someone say "Just go root for the chiefs" you guys didn't even get into the bad blood sown by the Rams organization on they're way out and even after they left. Or the owner dying and Kroenke basically strong arming the NFL into selling it to him instead of Shad Kahn.

    • @dragondrew2000
      @dragondrew2000 Před 3 lety +3

      I’m from St. Louis and it’s hard to root for the Chiefs. I’m more of a Lions fan now. To root for the Chiefs if you’re from eastern Missouri is akin to asking someone from San Diego to root for an LA team.

    • @anondescriptobserver6774
      @anondescriptobserver6774 Před 3 lety +1

      The teams in Missouri that stick tend to win the support of the rural areas and mid-sized towns (Springfield, Columbia, Cape, etc), it's hard for the cities themselves to float the teams unless it's a smaller league like the NHL or MLS. Rural MO generally leans Chiefs/Cardinals, which is one reason why the Rams left and the Royals are at risk.

    • @robertevbayekha6639
      @robertevbayekha6639 Před 3 lety

      @@anondescriptobserver6774 nhl is not a smaller league wth?! And. Mls made 1.02 billion dollars wth

    • @anondescriptobserver6774
      @anondescriptobserver6774 Před 3 lety

      ​@@robertevbayekha6639 It is a smaller league, the NHL makes a lot less money than the NFL or even MLB, and the arena capacities are smaller than NFL stadiums or MLB ballparks.

    • @rspister
      @rspister Před 2 lety +1

      So Stan The Man did exactly what Georgia the skank did when she moved the Rams to Stl?

  • @ethanbradley2089
    @ethanbradley2089 Před 3 lety +3

    Can't watch it's been 5 years and it still hurts. Other than the Scott Linnehan era, the STL fans were extremely loyal. We had more losing seasons than most teams. And the fans still turn out. I'll always wonder if STL would still have a team had the Rams beat the Patriots. Now I'll be the first to tell you the Jones Dome was trash. But STL came up with a great idea for a stadium on the riverfront. Stan Kronke and the NFL screwed a great city.

  • @stlfatman
    @stlfatman Před 2 měsíci

    I still miss my St. Louis Rams. I love the Battlehawks, but NFL football hasn't been the same since 2016.

  • @AlanNadeauIII
    @AlanNadeauIII Před 3 lety +10

    Would love to see you collab with UrinatingTree

    • @Demi-kid
      @Demi-kid Před 3 lety +3

      Young blood with and old head.
      Yeah that would be pretty sick.

    • @AlanNadeauIII
      @AlanNadeauIII Před 3 lety +3

      @@Demi-kid Not to mention U-Tree is fucking hilarious with his sarcasm and what not.

    • @Demi-kid
      @Demi-kid Před 3 lety +1

      @@AlanNadeauIII dude it happened.
      On UT's channel thats pawg.

    • @AlanNadeauIII
      @AlanNadeauIII Před 3 lety

      @@Demi-kid What vid?

    • @Demi-kid
      @Demi-kid Před 3 lety +1

      @@AlanNadeauIII the new one. He talks about the bengal video.

  • @jpmnky
    @jpmnky Před rokem +1

    The fact they dumped Jerome Bettis for nothing for Lawrence Phillips, then got Marshall Faulk for nothing will always blow my mind.

    • @muzikdude1188
      @muzikdude1188 Před 7 měsíci

      After the Rams moved to St. Louis Bettis gave minimal effort on the field and hinted that he wanted out. His dominance quickly returned after the Steelers acquired him. As far as Faulk goes, everything just fell together for the Rams in the 1999 offseason. They had just drafted Orlando Pace and already had one of the best WRs in the league in Isaac Bruce. The acquisition of Faulk and the surprising rise of Kurt Warner was enough to put them over the top.

  • @toddaustin2198
    @toddaustin2198 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video!
    1 big mistake near the beginning though. Since I'm an NFL historian who grew up in the STL Metro East area, I'm pretty up on both STL Cards baseball and STL Cards football history.
    The Racine / Chicago / St. Louis / Arizona Cardinals 🏈 team is the oldest NFL team in existence dating back to 1898 as the Morgan Athletic Club.
    They purchased some used and faded jerseys from a college. They donned these jerseys and become the Racine Cardinals (due to Cardinal Red Jerseys) of the City of Chicago in 1920/1921. The Racine Cardinals name has nothing to do with Racine, WI. Rather, the Big Red played in a field on Racine Street in the Windy City. They later would become known in the 1921/1922 campaign as simply the Chicago Cardinals. Their name has absolutely nothing to do with the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team. It was only a coincidence that when the Chicago Cardinals relocated to the Gateway City, both MLB and NFL shared the same team name.
    Although the Pro Football Hall of Fame is in Canton, OH...
    The 2 oldest NFL franchises still in existence are from my home state of Illinois.
    ✅ The Racine > Chicago > St. Louis > Arizona Cardinals &
    ✅ The Decatur Staleys > Chicago Bears

  • @rileykazama3145
    @rileykazama3145 Před 3 lety +3

    I hope st Louis gets a expansion team

  • @robfreedman6496
    @robfreedman6496 Před 3 lety +2

    Cardinals were originally from Chicago and were there from 1920-1959 before being in St. Louis from 1960-1987!

  • @larryloveless2967
    @larryloveless2967 Před 2 lety +2

    St. Louis city and St. Louis county are separate governments that each wanted to build a stadium in their location resulting in no new stadium forcing Cardinals owner Bill Bidwell to move to Arizona in 1988. St. Louis blew it by not working togather. Unlike San Diego and Oakland and all other teams that lost NFL teams for not building a new stadium, St. Louis actually approved the building of a new stadium on its riverfront. All St. Louis was excited in its news coverage and details of the new stadium. It was somewhat controverial how they went through courts to approve funding for the new stadium needing no voting approval by the residents of St. Louis. I am sure Stan Kroenke never expected St. Louis to actually approve a new stadium in time but he ignored it as he had already bought the land for SOFI years prior and wanted to instead build the greatest stadium ever known to mankind in L.A.. St. Louis had attempted to go through the NFL relocation by-laws thinking the NFL would give approval to block the move. The NFL relocation committe did recommend the Rams stay in St. Louis and an inital vote by owners had them staying as well. Jerry Jones then took over getting the owners to almost all swing their votes for his buddy Stan Kroenke. A trial is expected to start in January, 2022 seeking settlement for false and milsleading relocation by-laws of the NFL by St. Louis. The NFL should remove their relocation by-laws since they are false and misleading. Even though I am from St. Louis I do still believe an owner should be able to do as that person desires once a contract has expired. The NFL should be awarding money to St. Louis however for the wasted effort put in to approving a new stadium and working out all details for construction to begin.

  • @dontedrake2316
    @dontedrake2316 Před rokem

    When the Rams first moved to St Louis play in Busch stadium to was awesome moving to the dome was awesome great channel keep up the great content

  • @michaelleroy9281
    @michaelleroy9281 Před 2 lety +2

    Do you think the Chiefs have something to do with the Rams moving back to LA ? I have heard stories about that

  • @skidawg22
    @skidawg22 Před 3 lety +1

    Some notes for you:
    The football Cardinals were originally from Chicago and are one of only two charter NFL members still in existence (the other being the Chicago Bears).
    And as a former St. Louis fan that lives in Kansas City, I can never pull for the hometown Chiefs. Part of it is the Chiefs' fan culture and appropriation of Native American symbology.
    But a HUGE part of it that has forever turned me off relates to the LA fiasco: the league's own LA committee actually voted 5-1 to go forward with the Carson plan (Chargers and Raiders to LA). The one no vote on that committee was from Clark Hunt, the Chiefs' owner. This can only be seen as an anti-St. Louis vote.
    Otherwise, I think you did a good job.
    EDIT: Also, no mention of the lawsuit? Please feel free to look up St. Louis Regional Convention and Sports Complex Authority et al v. National Football League et al. The suit is scheduled to go to trial on October 25, 2021 in St. Louis. The NFL (and especially Kroenke) is likely liable for billions in damages. I would be surprised if St. Louis doesn't get an expansion team as a result of this lawsuit that all signed point to they'll likely win.

    • @whosaidthat84
      @whosaidthat84 Před 3 lety +2

      How could they win? It'll probably drag out but STL didn't maintain their end of the deal by keeping EJD as a "top tier stadium." That language was purposely left vague in order to dip out. As an LA fan, I feel bad for the fans who watched them for all those shitty years. But Frontiere did exactly what Kroenke did by running them to the ground.

  • @gsandy5235
    @gsandy5235 Před 4 měsíci

    It sounds as if you are unaware that the Cardinals were the Chicago Cardinals before moving to St. Louis in 1960. In the 1920s the organization purchased used jerseys from the University of Chicago Maroons. The owner insisted that the maroon jerseys were cardinal red and, thus, the team was named.

  • @jon4lakers
    @jon4lakers Před 3 lety +16

    Very well done.

  • @bradmurray1736
    @bradmurray1736 Před 3 lety +2

    I live in Southern Illinois I used to live in the city but very much in the firm grasp of the St Louis sports market.
    I've been rooting for the Chiefs since 2016 but I feel this imposter syndrome. they aren't really my team. I don't think I want a NFL team in St Louis, But man do I miss the Rams. Even though I've never seen a good Rams team in all of my years.

  • @redskinsman10
    @redskinsman10 Před 2 lety +1

    the Cardinals were actually established in 1898 as a street team in Chicago.

  • @christopherjustice6411
    @christopherjustice6411 Před 3 lety +1

    Actually no. The Arizona Cardinals aren’t named after the St. Louis Cardinals Baseball team. The team was founded in Chicago in 1898 and their name is a reference to their first uniforms, which were Cardinal Red.

  • @thelivingear990
    @thelivingear990 Před 5 měsíci

    I’m clamoring for an end credit scene like moment where the mayor and some billionaire business man/woman sit down and the mayor orders the clerk to pull the stadium plans off the shelf.

  • @kalimanincreible7346
    @kalimanincreible7346 Před 5 měsíci

    From a longtime LA Rams fan (since the 70's) who just stumbled onto this video:
    St Louis, a lot of us LA fans really do empathize with you, because we also know the pain of losing our beloved NFL team: from our perspective, we can also say that the ownership screwed us over, back in the 90's. A credible argument can be made that Georgia Frontiere tanked the team in order to move it away, just like in the 1989 movie Major League. Don't get me started on how much we despised her.
    Remember, she was from the St Louis area, and St Louis rolled out the red carpet for her in 1995. It was painful to watch the Greatest Show on Turf era from here, although who could ever root against Kurt Warner? I confess that I didn't feel too bad for the franchise during the losing years that followed, and needless to say, I was absolutely thrilled when they came back in 2016. Sorry, I know many of you hate Stan Kroenke, but he's a hero to us here in LA.
    Going forward, let me just give my 2 cents: St Louis absolutely does deserve an NFL team, and I do think you deserve some financial compensation for your efforts to keep the team from moving. Every time my Dodgers go up against the Cardinals or my Kings do battle with the Blues, I'm reminded that St Louis is in fact a terrific sports town, and you have great fans. I hope good things happen for you in the future - good luck to you.

  • @jamesoverholt878
    @jamesoverholt878 Před 2 lety +1

    A suggestion for an alternative to the situation you say had no alternative....mega rich nfl team owners can pay for their own gd stadiums

  • @yourboikermit5074
    @yourboikermit5074 Před 3 lety +3

    6:41 Rip that referee

  • @mikehunt8997
    @mikehunt8997 Před 2 lety +1

    The team won in Chicago in 1947, 1925. and came from the windy city. EST 1898.

  • @rdkrussel
    @rdkrussel Před 3 lety +1

    There's a big law suit that will either force every NFL owner to testify and make all kinds of NFL financial records public... Or the NFL could settle out of court with st. Louis. A lot of people seem to think the NFL doesn't want that black eye so a settlement is likely and could include an expansion team or relocating a team to stl

  • @protokazyii1743
    @protokazyii1743 Před 3 lety +14

    Hey man, big fan of the channel! Keep up the great work! I’m 20 and have lived in St Louis my whole life. This video really spoke to me on a personal level. I grew up a Rams superfan. Unfortunately I was too young to remember any of the golden years. All I remember is supporting the Rams through all of those rough seasons. The 1-15, 4-12, 5-11, 7-8-1 seasons. I would go into each Sunday hoping for a win but rarely ever getting one. There was something so beautiful about it though. I absolutely loved supporting the team even though they were utter garbage. It was the hope that ”this Sunday would be different” was what kept me coming back! There were many other people who felt the same as me and loyally stood by the team and would get roasted for doing so. I think that’s why many St. Louisans feel anger about the relocation. The issue was the way it went down.
    I vividly remember the day Kroenke bought the land in Cali. Kevin Demoff, chief operation officer of the Rams, came on the radio and said that Stan didn’t think the land was any good for building a stadium. He was telling us not to worry about a thing. Then look what happened. We fully understand that there is so much more money to be made in LA. If they were upfront about it then I think I would still be a diehard Rams fan. The reason we still have animosity for them is because they led us on thinking we actually had a shot at holding on to the team. Then they had the audacity to call us bad fans on the way out. So now you’re slandering us on the way out too? Y’all have been trash for 10 years, of course attendance is gonna be lower then usual. I just can’t support the team after they disrespected us so much. Don’t even get me started on the stadium proposal debacle. I could go on and on about all the shadiness that happened there from the Rams and the NFL. I digress, I won’t make you listen to that rant😂.
    I know what I said probably sounds petty to an outsider but I just want people to understand that the anger from St. Louis is legit and is based on lack of transparency from higher ups in the organization and the NFL. I’m sincerely happy for the LA fans that got their team back. I just ask that you understand our feelings on the matter and don’t make blanket statements that we were bad fans. If we ever get another team in STL I hope it’s in expansion team. Ik the pain of losing a team so I’d never wish that on anybody else. Lol this is super long, thanks for reading if you’ve made it this far. 🙏🏾😂
    P.S. - RETIRE STEVEN JACKSON’S NUMBER IMMEDIATELY

  • @Mr_Chicken101
    @Mr_Chicken101 Před 3 lety +2

    Since you did the rise of Rutgers basketball, it would be cool if you do the rise of Penn State basketball.

  • @edge032
    @edge032 Před 2 lety +2

    Amazing how quickly the Rams organization learned how to draft and hit on free agents so quickly after moving to LA after decades of mostly ineptitude in STL. It’s almost like they were tanking the team intentionally or something 🤡

  • @Hankaholic
    @Hankaholic Před 7 měsíci

    Jeff Fischer was NOT brought in to try to turn it around. He was meant to make Saint Louis hate the Rams.

  • @talksmoke1190
    @talksmoke1190 Před 3 lety +2

    The cardinals started in Chicago not in st louis

  • @colinmoore9154
    @colinmoore9154 Před 3 lety

    I have an idea for a video, do like a weekly video talking about the sports news that had gone on in the week. anyways great vid like always.

  • @saltywingsandavsfan
    @saltywingsandavsfan Před 3 lety +3

    It’s all Kronke’s fault

    • @rspister
      @rspister Před 3 lety

      Rams never should’ve moved to Stl and GF had no business “owning” the Rams.

  • @TheDizzleHawke
    @TheDizzleHawke Před 3 lety +1

    That dome in St. Louis sucked.

  • @OriginalOne1960
    @OriginalOne1960 Před 2 lety +1

    The Chargers name and logo was created and originated in Los Angeles with a USC L.A.Memorial Coliseum historical connection with
    Tommy Walker aka”Tommy Trojan”
    and Barron Hilton founding original owner of the Los Angeles Chargers 1960.
    The Chargers name originated from the USC football games and Tommy Walker aka (Tommy Trojan) famous historical Charge chant he created
    “Da Dah Dah Da“ Charge!
    “Da Dah Dah Da Trojans Warriors Charge!
    Tommy Walker then musician /team kicker helped inspire then owner Barron Hilton “R.I.P.” to name the Chargers football team from the famous Charge chant he created as a USC musician band member /team kicker.
    When Barron Hilton attended the USC football games the previous years as a football fan at the L.A.Coliseum he would hear the Tommy Walker Charge chant.
    When Tommy Walker would run out to the football field to attempt the extra point kicks as the team kicker the USC team music band would play Tommy’s Charge chant he created as the team musician and the football fans that attended the games would yell out his Charge chant
    “Da Dah Dah Dah Da” Charge!
    “Da Dah Dah Da “Trojan Warriors Charge!
    to motivate him to score the extra point kicks.
    So that’s where Barron Hilton got inspired and got the idea to name the Los Angeles Chargers football team.
    The proof is in the Chargers 1960 original shield logo with the horse charging into battle.
    The Charger is a horse charging into battle.
    very similar to the USC Trojan Warrior with shield and sword and horse mascot charging on to the field to battle.
    Hence the horse in the Chargers 1960 original shield logo.
    The lightning bolt idea came from Barron Hilton liking the Air Force College football team lightning bolt logo as a College football fan.
    Till this day that famous Charge chant is heard at the game’s and through out many other sporting game events.
    The Los Angeles Chargers r the true original L.A. born team now back playing in the original birthplace and not too many team’s can claim that fact.
    Rams were born in Cleveland 1936 and
    Raiders were born in Oakland 1960
    And that’s a fact these other teams can’t ever claim.
    And also the Chargers r the true Southern California NFL team because they have never left Southern California unlike
    the Cleveland/ST.Louis Rams and
    the Oakland/Las Vegas Nevada Raiders.
    Let’s Go Los Angeles Chargers
    The true original L.A. born team now back playing in the original birthplace L.A.
    Born in L.A. in 1960 and played their first season ever in Chargers history at the L.A.memorial Coliseum finishing the season with a 10-4 record.
    Da Da Dah Dah Da Charge!!!!!⚡️🐴 🏈

  • @cmfunk7665
    @cmfunk7665 Před 2 lety +1

    Vermeil was not done coaching. He was pushed out

  • @AlexThompsonShark
    @AlexThompsonShark Před 3 lety +1

    Also, what isn't talked about, the 2001 SB... the AFC Championship game is the Tuck Rule game...
    Rams V Raiders... Rams then have 2 SBs...

    • @fiesta061000
      @fiesta061000 Před 2 lety

      The AFC Championship in 2001 was Patriots at Steelers..The tuck Rule game was the Divisional Rd..Anyway, 2001 Rams were better than 1999 Rams, but 1999 Rams sealed the deal ⁉🏈🏙🏟🟦

  • @PipeGuy64Bit
    @PipeGuy64Bit Před 3 lety +2

    I do miss their team colors when they were in St.Louis though the bright blue and yellow is fitting for them being in L.A. It's too bad they made that terrible logo and uniform change.

    • @UserName-ts3sp
      @UserName-ts3sp Před 3 lety +1

      they should’ve gone back to the old blue and light gold

    • @ec1628
      @ec1628 Před 2 lety

      Worst uniform and logo in all of sports.

  • @markmiller489
    @markmiller489 Před 3 lety +1

    St.Louis Cardinals football team WAS NOT named after the baseball team. The Cardinals have a long tradition of football all the way back to 1898, one of the founding teams in the NFL. Cardinals started out in Chicago.

  • @augustustalkington6932

    Hey Cole, I love your videos! I was wondering if you could do a video on Oklahoma sometime? Maybe on Lincoln Riley and the success of the air raid offense? It would give you a chance to talk about Kyler Murray 👀👀👀

  • @michaelpointer5063
    @michaelpointer5063 Před 2 lety

    Here after the ESPN article

  • @A-LYCAN-CALLED-CAS
    @A-LYCAN-CALLED-CAS Před 3 lety +1

    They were the Chicago Cardinals, they're name had nothing to do with the baseball team, it was the color of their uniforms

  • @brianmccartney8064
    @brianmccartney8064 Před 3 lety

    Pretty good report. But there was some background info which was wrong: The Cardinals franchise moved to St. Louis from Chicago with the team name already. While in St. Louis, they branded themselves as the Big Red to differentiate themselves from the other Cardinals. In addition, Georgia Frontiere had a connection to St. Louis before. Either she was from St. Louis or her husband was. I don't remember which (and I can't be bothered to Google it :-)

  • @JohnnyMidnyte
    @JohnnyMidnyte Před 2 lety

    st. louis and san diego both got screwed by the nfl. why would st. louis even want to revisit that nightmare.

  • @Gage_Brumley
    @Gage_Brumley Před 2 lety +2

    Just imagine if the Patriots moved here in the mid 90s like they almost did and became the St Louis Stallions...

  • @tyfamousaurusrex1957
    @tyfamousaurusrex1957 Před 2 lety +1

    The Cardinals began in1920 as the Chicago Cardinals then moved to St. Louis in 1960 because they couldn’t complete with the Bears and were seeking a market of there own.

  • @roccosteo8328
    @roccosteo8328 Před 2 lety +1

    The cardinals should have never left. And when they did they should’ve rebranded.

  • @waynekent6810
    @waynekent6810 Před 3 lety +1

    Cities shouldn't have to foot the bill for stadiums . I think maybe some but the NFL or the owners should. They want it they build it. Can't blame a city when the team has nothing but loosing seasons.

  • @noahcricket
    @noahcricket Před 3 lety +2

    Thoughts on Gonzaga being ranked no.1 coming into the season?

  • @jasonbrown2326
    @jasonbrown2326 Před 3 lety +2

    Arizona cardinals are from Chicago and were established around 1883

  • @RhygonGG
    @RhygonGG Před 3 lety +2

    Man it is awesome to know that one of my fav youtubrs BFM, is. also a rams fan.

  • @jackofallgamesTV
    @jackofallgamesTV Před 2 měsíci

    Remember the time they almost became the St Louis Rush? Local boy NFL from mid-size City out of TV range of St Louis but considered a St Louis market, Cape Gerado Missouri, becomes a self-made millionaire with his humor and opinions and probably lives the golden life of any NFL fans dream who doesn't have enough talent to get past high School football. He was considered the every fan at one point.
    The problem was when he made a comment on ESPN that touched on race, and none of the three on their staff members disagreed, and no one on set at the time complaining that that was an off the mark but, some people interpreted it as racist, and though he made enough money where he could have bought the team and was trying to, and the owners club wanted him in but the players union vetoed it because of that one comment.
    Unless your definition of racism is mentioning race in any aspect, at all, no matter how delicately you make the racial portion of the comment, no matter how tangential, if your racial comment is pointed in the wrong direction from the wrong person to the wrong person all the words in the middle get erased and the word race or black or whatever race all the words in the middle get erased and the word race or black or whatever race you're all the words in the middle get erased and the word race or black or whatever race your all the words in the middle get erased and the word race or black or whatever race you're all the words in the middle get erased and the word race or black or whatever all the words in the middle get erased and the racial word gets amplified with all others being ignored. It's not like he used the forbidden six-letter word to call blacks, except one time when he was directly quoting someone about equating tax cuts to shouting racial epithets. He did warn people he was quoting someone and he would never say it on his own. And gave time to turn off the TV until the next commercial.
    Probably the same people who thought the ESPN comment was racist, would also say that equating advocating for tax cuts to shouting racial slurs is also racist.
    There has to be alternate plans of capitalism which grows the economy versus yesterday, and socialism, which prevents one company or one person for being too powerful in an economy where money equals power, we're even Adam Smith, the original radical capitalist, said the government has the right to break monopolies.
    Ideally the government should be bigger than any one company but not bigger than the sum of all businesses. And you have to constantly switch back between capitalistic and socialistic policies either broad sweeping, or targeted.

  • @quincybellsports9907
    @quincybellsports9907 Před 3 lety +17

    St.Louis will always take a backseat to Chicago

    • @AdvaithKumar
      @AdvaithKumar Před 3 lety

      ayeeee

    • @djtrankilo231
      @djtrankilo231 Před 3 lety +3

      Chicago doesn't even know St. Louis exists

    • @samwescoat5750
      @samwescoat5750 Před 3 lety

      Chicago didn’t win a World Series for over a century

    • @ZiggyZou
      @ZiggyZou Před 3 lety

      It’s funny you guys think you’re in the same conversation as Chicago. Heck Kansas City is booming, it’s a beautiful city. I’ve been to downtown St. Louis, no thank you 😂

    • @samwescoat5750
      @samwescoat5750 Před 3 lety

      @@ZiggyZou wrong, you’ve been to inner city drug land. Downtown STL is great. And I wonder why KC is booming rn. Oh, right, the chiefs just won a super bowl, I wonder why the city is happy rn

  • @alistairfannell6694
    @alistairfannell6694 Před 2 lety

    You forgot to mention about St Louis lawsuit against the NFL

  • @pbb6283
    @pbb6283 Před 3 lety

    as a guy who’s been raised in missouri his whole life, nobody gave a fuck abt stl outside of it, it was a chiefs state from the beginning

  • @trillionairehebrew602
    @trillionairehebrew602 Před 3 lety +1

    Yes Edward Jonez Dome is our crown jewel in which should be outlined in our Lawsuit Settlement to be renovated!!!

  • @chesterkleinhans4207
    @chesterkleinhans4207 Před 3 lety +1

    Not to nitpick but, 4 winning seasons and 1 break even year at 8-8 in 2004. Sorry, just had to point that out. I remember that year cuz we beat the Seahawks all 3 times. Including a wildcard game in Seattle.

  • @TonyBi
    @TonyBi Před 3 lety +1

    Definitely should do a downfall of the Dallas Cowboys. Now *there's* a downfall story.

  • @tyrelljackson872
    @tyrelljackson872 Před 3 lety

    Name of the background beat?

  • @bradleykaps1557
    @bradleykaps1557 Před 3 lety +1

    The Cardinals were from Chicago and got its name from the jerseys they were that was Cardinal red and moved to STL from being known as the other Chicago team

  • @explosivereactionstv7414
    @explosivereactionstv7414 Před 3 lety +1

    Can’t wait till he mentions Arsenal 😔😔😔

  • @kalel311superman9
    @kalel311superman9 Před 2 lety +1

    february 13 2022 the Los Angeles Rams won the super Bowl at their house so fi stadium

  • @Shinuchiha_99
    @Shinuchiha_99 Před rokem

    7:23 that was literally the same route kupp ran on a play against Tampa in the divisional.. I even yelled out “that’s Isaac f.cking Bruce’s play!!” When he made the catch

  • @MrCtal19
    @MrCtal19 Před 2 lety

    Chiefs are in Missouri but they are in Kansas City, 4 Hours away.

  • @mariaandmichael2680
    @mariaandmichael2680 Před rokem

    It started with changing the colors and uniforms!

  • @jordan80673
    @jordan80673 Před 3 lety +1

    I love the St. Louis Rams old colors

  • @lloydgotgame4412
    @lloydgotgame4412 Před 3 lety +1

    Great vid 👍🏾

  • @AVSCOUNTRY2024
    @AVSCOUNTRY2024 Před 3 lety +1

    I want your opinion I’ve been a huge Chiefs and Avs Fan since I even knew about football and Hockey so does this put me as a happy person because both teams are going to kick ass this year well the Chiefs already are sitting at 8-1 way better than last year

    • @ZiggyZou
      @ZiggyZou Před 3 lety

      Heck yeah, I’m from KC. Huge Chiefs and Avs fan too. I can’t stand St. Louis, and their teams tbh

    • @AVSCOUNTRY2024
      @AVSCOUNTRY2024 Před 3 lety

      @@ZiggyZou thank you I knew I wasn’t the only one and the Avs have way more in-common with the Chiefs than they do with the Broncos I mean think about it the two teams both have a game changer with Mackinnion and the Avs and Mahomes with the Chiefs and also bye god I have been waiting to see the Avalanche win the cup and they look way better than the blues