SHOCKING GMP Arrest Video Footage Revealed - Mark & Shaun Share Their Nightmare Etihad Story

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  • čas přidán 19. 08. 2023
  • This video concerns the arrest of two Newcastle fans Mark and Shaun (father and son) for using hand held flares at the Man City V Newcastle match. I witnessed the whole incident.
    Approximately 45 minutes before KO, two or three lads let off hand held flares outside of the Etihad Stadium, on stadium land, but outside of the inner security barriers. They were several meters away from passing fans. These flares extinguished themselves after a minute, or two and were never thrown.
    Police however ran towards the lads and immediately took hold of two of them. It was clear they were being arrested and handcuffs were used to secure them. This resulted in Shaun being resistive and being taken to the ground by officers. Shaun continued to struggle, resulting in officers needing to escalate their force to secure him. At this point I began filming the incident. Bothe Mark and Shaun were then taken away.
    I completely accept that they broke stadium laws, that carrying a pyrotechnic on stadium land is a criminal offence and there are safety issues regarding the flares. However, I personally took exception to the heavy handedness in how police dealt with this incident and I felt that the arrests were unnecessary and disproportionate.
    Police of course have powers of arrest under SOCPA and PACE but is a tool that should only be used as a last resort. When an officer makes an arrest, they are required to prove that the arrest was 'necessary' and that the incident couldn't be dealt with in some other way.
    The police indeed could have dealt with this incident differently. They could have approached the lads in a way that didn't appear confrontational. They could have taken them to one side, carried out a stop search and then obtained their details. The officers could then have reported the lads for summons to court at a later date and instructed them to leave stadium land. They could then have alerted their colleagues of the incident and to keep an eye on them. Should Mark and Shaun bring unwanted attention to themselves again, the police could have escalated their response.
    Instead, the police didn't see an arrest as a last resort, it was their first response, even adding in some alcohol consumption and potential verbals (although there is no evidence of this). The situation obviously then escalated with officers struggling with Shaun on the ground. It caused an unnecessary scene that erodes public trust in the police. It also compromised the safety of the lads, the officers themselves and passers by. It also took four police officers off the street. All of this paid for at public expense. Because of the arrest, the lads also missed their coach and were forced to get back to Newcastle at additional cost and inconvenience.
    The police made absolutely no attempt to deal with this situation in more professional and appropriate way and to give the lads an opportunity to curb any anti social behaviour.
    In addition, one supporter stood several meters away, was voicing his concern at the scene. He was in no way interfering with arrest. This resulted in another officer coming over and shoving him in the chest, instructing him to get away. This is unjustifiable in law and in fact a criminal assault.
    Another way to deal with this incident and is my personal view. The officers could have simply carried out a stop search, obtain their details, give them a verbal warning and instruct them to leave stadium grounds with a warning of arrest should they carry on again. This would have seen the police in a more professional light and is just a decent human being way to behave in the circumstances. If the lads behaved like arses after this warning then they would have had no sympathy from me.
    I was personally appalled at the whole police response to this and felt compelled to allow the lads to tell their story. Of course, they are remorseful for their part in breaking the law.
    The police in general do amazing work to keep us safe, but this incident was an example of poor policing that should be highlighted.

Komentáře • 389

  • @TynesideLife
    @TynesideLife  Před 10 měsíci +7

    Please see video description for a full incident description and an explanation of my personal view on what happened.

    • @Braddaz-ke5jz
      @Braddaz-ke5jz Před 9 měsíci +2

      Eddie you’re great at what you do, but you surely know that pyro is being clamped down on at sports grounds and there is zero tolerance of anyone using it. Clubs expect those who are guilty to be arrested, prosecuted and banned.
      Surely anyone would know that letting pyro off on land owned by City would not be tolerated by City and they’d expect
      action to be taken. Otherwise every week people will be casually walking to stadiums swinging pyro.
      There’s no way NUFC would support these lads as it sets a bad precedent.

    • @TynesideLife
      @TynesideLife  Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@Braddaz-ke5jz you’ve misunderstood Brad. Please read the video description for a fuller understanding and my view on the matter

    • @Braddaz-ke5jz
      @Braddaz-ke5jz Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@TynesideLife ah, I just saw the bit where you suggested a warning would have sufficed. That’s what I was replying to. Nobody gets a warning for pyro

    • @TynesideLife
      @TynesideLife  Před 9 měsíci

      @@Braddaz-ke5jz that’s not true bud. Please feel free to support your claim with a reference 👍🏻

    • @Bearsio
      @Bearsio Před 4 měsíci

      @@Braddaz-ke5jzI doubt those 2 know a lot

  • @dazisback2
    @dazisback2 Před 10 měsíci +34

    I am a city fan and was at the game, that arrest was ridiculous and GMP should be brought to book for it.

  • @jakeblues5854
    @jakeblues5854 Před 10 měsíci +37

    The law changed a few years back concerning pyrotechnics, unless your a scouser

  • @jamesstridgen6320
    @jamesstridgen6320 Před 9 měsíci +23

    City fan here, hey lads! Sorry that you was treated like that in Manchester. I get what you are saying about not using them if you had known, but even if you did know about it I still think the police could have had a quite word with you I really do. Sometimes wonder why ordinary folk distrust the police. Its a shame they didn’t drag Boris to the floor while having a party in a restricted area isn’t it? All the best lads and I hope Newcastle see it in the right way 👕👕👕

  • @andrewquinn9532
    @andrewquinn9532 Před 10 měsíci +40

    As a City fan, I'm disgusted at the police response to this,as the vast majority of City fans are im sure. Glad the fans are ok, and hopefully nothing more comes it. The fkn scousers do far worse than that and the cops do nowt. Best of luck for the future, you guys deserve the good times like we've had. Always had a great away day at the toon, best of craic with no dramas.proper fans.

    • @BenM388
      @BenM388 Před 10 měsíci

      If that had been flares in the City end i dont think it would of got this same response

    • @allpissedup229
      @allpissedup229 Před 9 měsíci

      @@BenM388 Obviously? It was at our home ground. You say that like it wouldn't happen anywhere else.

  • @garykb1
    @garykb1 Před 9 měsíci +31

    As a City fan I’m really sorry you suffered this treatment. Good luck with the court case.

  • @SheikhMansour666_
    @SheikhMansour666_ Před 10 měsíci +17

    He's 55yrs old, no tickets, went to Manchester just to set flares off.
    What a 🤡

  • @allpissedup229
    @allpissedup229 Před 10 měsíci +31

    As a City season ticket holder I'm really sorry this happened. Unfortunately we are all too used to the GMP being useless and careless. I hope your next trip to the Etihad goes much better.

    • @SheikhMansour666_
      @SheikhMansour666_ Před 9 měsíci +1

      Sorry for what?

    • @allpissedup229
      @allpissedup229 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@SheikhMansour666_ Try reading mate. It helps

    • @SheikhMansour666_
      @SheikhMansour666_ Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@allpissedup229
      Again sorry for what?
      You're sorry that a grown man of 55yrs of age was arrested for acting like a child with a firework.
      Get a grip!!

    • @allpissedup229
      @allpissedup229 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@SheikhMansour666_ Well no, that's all nonsense you've just made up in your head now to try and have an argument.
      As a Mancunian I'm just sorry they had a bad experience. I'm not apologising for anyone, it's just basic human empathy.
      Hope your day gets better pal.

    • @SheikhMansour666_
      @SheikhMansour666_ Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@allpissedup229
      Stop it you absolute 🤡

  • @marcusaurelius49
    @marcusaurelius49 Před 10 měsíci +17

    The police could have de-escalated that situation without the heavy-handed tactics.

  • @jojosfotospc
    @jojosfotospc Před 10 měsíci +10

    Those are not flares, they are smoke capsules. Definition means everything.

  • @petehandrick9408
    @petehandrick9408 Před 10 měsíci +38

    Eddie as ever you are such a great ambassador for the TOON ,the city and people. Unbiased reporting is always great from you. This does seem to be heavy handed and my thoughts go out to the people involved as it appears to be a rather petty offence being dealt with by overeaction techniques and any common sense seems to have been left behind when putting on a uniform that day. wish the lads well and good luck .

  • @AlanBrownPhotography
    @AlanBrownPhotography Před 10 měsíci +11

    Great video Eddy. Takes me back to the late 60’s when police would take unruly fans into a portacabin and bounce them off the walls.
    Hopefully the club won’t ban these guys.

  • @Genekellystand
    @Genekellystand Před 10 měsíci +15

    As a resident of east Manchester, Ivan find these energetic officers plenty of opportunities to flex their muscles dealing with the scum around here.

  • @peteraston1991
    @peteraston1991 Před 10 měsíci +10

    Great video Eddie, giving the lads their chance to put their story forward 👍

  • @bunnydaduk
    @bunnydaduk Před 10 měsíci +13

    I'm normally pro police but the Manchester plod are notoriously heavy handed when dealing with Newcastle fans. I've had this happen on several visits to watch Manure away. They heard us like we're cattle. I'ts plods like these that turn people against them. The lads did wrong ok ! Tell them off and move them on was all that was needed.

    • @allpissedup229
      @allpissedup229 Před 10 měsíci +5

      I agree but it's nothing to do with them being Newcastle fans, the GMP are crap with everyone

    • @frankfestus114
      @frankfestus114 Před 9 měsíci +1

      But dey do not when it comes to Muslim harrasing people in speakers corner and all over England

  • @THEPete_
    @THEPete_ Před 10 měsíci +14

    Shocking this, hope the club get involved and sort this out. A little word from the police would have worked - jumping on them and wasting taxpayers money in the courts completely unjustified, we live in an authoritarian state.

    • @christopherwright8811
      @christopherwright8811 Před 10 měsíci +4

      It is well over the top - though of course the lads should not have done it A simple warning would be ample in my view. And indeed, the legal process will now cost thousands.

    • @thumpertoon76
      @thumpertoon76 Před 10 měsíci

      That's all the Pig force is about today, getting a collar for cash nothing else, we see the looting in London and they don't even turn up to do anything, your house is broken into and they don't even come to your door just give you a Crime number, the Pig force has lost all respect it used to have because they don't care and just want your cash....

    • @QuietManUK
      @QuietManUK Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@Braddaz-ke5jz They weren't to know Citeh regard the car park as part of the ground. A verbal warning would have been enough.

  • @andrewchapman2738
    @andrewchapman2738 Před 10 měsíci +6

    What an excellent utilisation of public funds by the police - oh and the added bonus of taking valuable court time up for such a major dangerous offence. Of course there is so little crime in Manchester this is a good method to improve the arrest stats. I wonder what the policing staff cost was by the hour to deal with these hardened criminals.

  • @markillingworth1972
    @markillingworth1972 Před 10 měsíci +18

    55yo going down to Manchester without a ticket and flares and no knowledge that you can’t set flares off in public well c’mon man use your loaf

    • @CrowTails88
      @CrowTails88 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Heavy handed police again, if only it was orange flares like just like oil lot , no arrests but football fan’s arrest them at all cost ….

  • @michaelb2228
    @michaelb2228 Před 10 měsíci +8

    Can nobody remember (prior to the Pandemic) when a pre-arranged Pub-stop around the Manchester Area was the focus of a Riot Police attack? Unfortunately for the local Plod, one of those hit with a truncheon was a senior policeman himself out with his son to watch the match so it made the local news.

  • @kevinbrewis6014
    @kevinbrewis6014 Před 10 měsíci +4

    best wishes to the lads, don't let it stop you doing what you do bert, supporting the best team in the world, good luck chaps, Blaydon lad here

  • @pauljames77777
    @pauljames77777 Před 10 měsíci +17

    Cops were heavy handed in my eyes Eddie and the 2 lads should have been cautioned by the police first before arresting them, lets hope some one from the police or Man city football club see sence and they guys get only a caution Thanks for the follow up Eddie

    • @peterellis1307
      @peterellis1307 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Think you mean a warning Paul, a police caution gives you a criminal record.

    • @rikaardyyz3039
      @rikaardyyz3039 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@peterellis1307Depends who u ask and where u read it.
      Some say it's a way of not getting charged as such but goes on " your criminal record" others say if I don't have a record it's not counted as one.
      Anyway totally agree that should of only had a word in the ear.
      I fully understand he's pissed off , and Hates ALL Manchester police but didn't do himself any favours with the " police came on the cell & battered him" day dream 🤔🤔✌️✌️🌚

  • @Cynical_Jim
    @Cynical_Jim Před 10 měsíci +8

    They must have completely different laws on Merseyside. I saw loads of red flares when Liverpool paraded the prem trophy and when the Toon played Everton last season even more. Even Adam P looked like a Smurf entering the stadium.

  • @shaunfogarty6038
    @shaunfogarty6038 Před 10 měsíci +3

    City fan here and this is absolutely disgusting should not be getting arrested for that

  • @eliotjackson4383
    @eliotjackson4383 Před 10 měsíci +12

    Manchester polis are well known for being heavy handed & dishing oot football banning orders like confetti, I know from personal experience! In 2007 I was run ower by a polis horse ootside the Etihad after an early kick off & when I remonstrated I was brayed to the floor by a plod with a big day stick then hoyed to the deck resulting in multiple lash marks up the back of me legs. I missed me coach hyem & luckily Wor lass transferred some £ for me to get the train back hours later. I too had to return to Manchester magistrates & slapped with a 3 year banning order & ultimately had to give up me season ticket. Once I breached the order through no fault of my own after not being sent a letter to surrender me passport for the euros even though England never qualified & the magistrate at North Shields said ‘why is it I seem to get a heck of a lot of these orders from the Manchester police ?’ It seems like nowt’s changed in that respect & the negative impact it’s gonna have on this Fatha & son cannot be overlooked & stop them doing something they love for 2-3 years at least ACAB

  • @holliebeachill7589
    @holliebeachill7589 Před 10 měsíci +22

    Absolutely shocking that it happened to them it good to know that they are okay now

  • @johncanning6459
    @johncanning6459 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Oh aye your videos are class Eddy😎

  • @Psychicsports901
    @Psychicsports901 Před 10 měsíci +7

    City fan here, police nothing better to do, you was unlucky your not coming back to court on November the 5th, then you can let a firework off outside the court!😂

  • @Kieranr67
    @Kieranr67 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Moved from Glasgow to north Tyneside at killingworth followed your videos mate great work

  • @_Shadow_Man_2024
    @_Shadow_Man_2024 Před 10 měsíci +7

    You're an adult how about growing up?
    Just a thought.

  • @user-hs3dg8jy3t
    @user-hs3dg8jy3t Před 10 měsíci +7

    Officers turn up in their wannabe army outfits thinking they're the SAS start battering some fans half the size of them. Try calling the police if your house is broken into or your car is stolen ... you'd never hear back from them

  • @davidmalarkey1302
    @davidmalarkey1302 Před 10 měsíci +28

    Police were a bit heavy-handed but why take flares etc to the match?

    • @epoch71
      @epoch71 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Maybe you weren’t listening. They weren’t going to the match.

    • @adamc4576
      @adamc4576 Před 10 měsíci

      Flares aren't illegal.

  • @johncanning6459
    @johncanning6459 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Bang out of order,no need for it😡all the best for the rest of the season lads from a Celtic fan👊🍀

  • @alanwilson1061
    @alanwilson1061 Před 10 měsíci +7

    They were in the wrong simple as that

    • @TynesideLife
      @TynesideLife  Před 10 měsíci +1

      They know that. That’s not the issue

  • @christinecassidy2230
    @christinecassidy2230 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Just subbed nice one giving them lads a voice👍🏻 UTFT

  • @bobthomson3500
    @bobthomson3500 Před 10 měsíci +24

    It's no wonder people have little respect for the police nowadays especially with real crime everywhere going unchallenged.

  • @britpackdog4545
    @britpackdog4545 Před 10 měsíci +2

    No matter where you're from in the UK I think there's one thing we can ALL believe in.

  • @englanduk6131
    @englanduk6131 Před 10 měsíci +3

    When did this law come out?.. because at the last game of the 21/22 season against villa the ground was full of flares going off, both in the stands and on the pitch at the end!!!

  • @venturout
    @venturout Před 10 měsíci +5

    Sorry to be a killjoy but carrying any pyrotechnic including smoke bombs is an offence under uk law and ignorance of the law is absolutely no defence. It might seem like harmless fun, but the reality is that smoke bombs do pose a risk to people, for example, how does a bystander know whether the smoke is harmless or not? Could a bystander have a negative effect of the smoke - asthma attack or something? If you set one off by a road it can distract or reduce the visibility to someone driving their car - potentially putting pedestrians in danger.
    In regard to the heavy handedness of the police, at first glance it does appear heavy handed. However, I’d be asking why the police have acted in such a way? We only see a very small portion of the arrest without seeing any of the build up towards it, but there was a small portion of the video which suggested at least one of the offenders was resisting arrest which may explain the heavy handedness.
    If the young lad were beaten blue by the police while held in the cells this should be on video and could prove police brutality - however I think it’s complete nonsense.

    • @TynesideLife
      @TynesideLife  Před 10 měsíci +3

      I witnessed the whole incident and the police response. I filmed what I could. It was disproportionate and unnecessary and the police have many powers and tools to deal with low level (criminal) incidents like this 👍🏻

  • @Steesh1952
    @Steesh1952 Před 10 měsíci +2

    These cowards need to arrest the REAL villains..

  • @Mookiethedog
    @Mookiethedog Před 10 měsíci +11

    Well done Eddy lad. Feel bad for these dudes. Nice day out turned into something ridiculous.......they’re hardly Liam and Noel in their prime. Manchester has gone soft

  • @thelittlesignpost
    @thelittlesignpost Před 9 měsíci +2

    Well, I am a City fan and I have to say this spoiled the spirit of the day with your good natured chat with City fans! (I saw the previous video where you went into the City pub with all the lads) I have every respect for Newcastle and their style of play and I am sorry to see the Police so heavy handed! I know Newcastle are going to do well this season, just as last, so let's just enjoy the football and support other football fans! A few years ago I had a great evening at a bar in Thailand where I live and there were four Liverpool lads came in to watch the game too and we had some great banter over a few beers and this is just the way it should be! I just love football and appreciate the hard work and skills of the players!

    • @TynesideLife
      @TynesideLife  Před 9 měsíci +2

      Aye, this incident was very disappointing as I’d just left Mary D’S Bar. The heavy handedness of GMP in this instance needed highlighting. They could have just warned the lads and sent them on their way. The arrests were appalling.
      It hasn’t dampened mine or Helen’s day as we had an excellent time in Manchester and loved the banter in the pub. Much respect 🫡
      To clarify, it was just me and Helen in the pub 😃

    • @thelittlesignpost
      @thelittlesignpost Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@TynesideLife Sure thing and I am glad you covered the real City people and as we saw, it was friendly enough between rival supporters! You came in with a smile, so fair play to you, that was just great! I have a couple of mates here that are from Newcastle and Sunderland, both great guys! I am originally from Newton Abbot in Devonshire! Why, we even have a guy from Derby here who runs a bar me Duck!😅

  • @barryh.4220
    @barryh.4220 Před 10 měsíci +4

    It does appear a bit heavy handed from GMP, but there have been one or two incidents inside the ground when flares have been thrown at fans in recent years during hostile high profile games against the likes of Man United and Liverpool, and the Police have probably decided to take some kind of zero tolerance measure out on any future use of them by ALL fans, home or away ..... and even though the incidents i speak of have previously occurred inside the ground, it looks like the Police have extended their policy to cover outside the ground too.

  • @dannynicholson6014
    @dannynicholson6014 Před 9 měsíci +4

    As a Sunderland fan, i want to wish you two all this best in your case. You may be mags but you're still human beings and deserve to be treated as such. Hope it all works out for you both, dont give up. HAWAY! (Or as you lot would put it, HOWAY)

  • @michaelbunn2093
    @michaelbunn2093 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Is there a link to donate to help add to train costs for the lads?

  • @darrenwarby32
    @darrenwarby32 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Absolutely disgusting from the police . What makes me sick is that when someones getting burgled etc , theres never any police to be found . Its a joke !!!

  • @alandalgarno5543
    @alandalgarno5543 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Unfortunately that’s nowt compared to what we are gonna see on the road in the CL this season

  • @geordietoonforlife.1155
    @geordietoonforlife.1155 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Where is the police and common sense? Why could they not give the lads a telling off and leave it like that it’s totally out of order and surely they can make a formal complaint on the arrest and how they were man handled absolutely disgusting behaviour from Manchester police. 🤬

    • @jk12114
      @jk12114 Před 10 měsíci

      The coppers had dinner dates planned , so the quickest way off shift was to nake arrests . The easier the better .

  • @markatkinson-fr8cn
    @markatkinson-fr8cn Před 10 měsíci +3

    There doesn't seem to have been any need for that. People steal from shops and yet nothing is done. They should have been warned. That would have been sufficient.

  • @blooter6360
    @blooter6360 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Heavy handed by the looks of it ? But end of day lesson learned chaps dont bother taking FLARES to games
    Don’t risk it man

  • @YesYesYessYes
    @YesYesYessYes Před 10 měsíci +6

    If they were City fans, would they have gotten same treatment 🤔

    • @Genekellystand
      @Genekellystand Před 10 měsíci +6

      I’m a city fan and the answer is definitely yes. They are sanitising football to such an extent you will soon get a lifetime ban for farting. Swearing and flares are hardly deserving of any police intervention, can understand the problem letting them in the ground as every chance would get lobbed onto the pitch or in opposition end. This is why atmosphere is disappearing fast from all grounds. Won’t be happy until only a raising of an eyebrow is the way to react to conceding a goal. Lot of time for Newcastle fans. And hope these lads are ok.

    • @barryh.4220
      @barryh.4220 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Loads of City fans have suffered match banning orders for various offences both at the ground, and in the City centre in the last decade ....

  • @user-rd3vb8wc3s
    @user-rd3vb8wc3s Před 10 měsíci +5

    Well done Eddie showing the vid. I was really worried for the coppers there as you can see the two Geordie lads look to be a real handful they must be about 12stone wet through that’s between the two of them. One thing you can rely on with the cops that’s lack of common sense.

  • @GarethSewell1982
    @GarethSewell1982 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I heard they were pissed that Ricky Hatton was now a Toon fan…

  • @threeducks
    @threeducks Před 10 měsíci +4

    You don’t have to let off a flare inside a stadium for it to be a criminal offence. Possession of a smoke bomb or flare is itself a crime if you even attempt to enter a stadium - and that can include possession en route to the match. The law doesn’t actually distinguish between smoke bombs, flares or fireworks either.

    • @TynesideLife
      @TynesideLife  Před 10 měsíci +4

      Nobodies disputing the offence mate. The police could have dealt with it by way of reporting them for summons and escorting them off stadium land.
      An arrest was clearly disproportionate

    • @fluffyheed9166
      @fluffyheed9166 Před 10 měsíci +4

      If the lads' account is completely correct then the police handled it poorly. We haven't seen the full footage. Were the lads cooperative? Uncooperative? I assume they had a few shandies on the coach. The young un resisted arrest therefore more force was needed. He mentioned damaging a cell as well, what happened there Eddy? Did he scratch something, urinate or deficate in the cell? I think we only got half a story.

    • @TynesideLife
      @TynesideLife  Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@fluffyheed9166 I didn’t get the full footage but I watched what happened before getting my camera out.
      It was a completely heavy handed and unnecessary arrest. They could have dealt with it by way of a summons and escorted them off stadium land.
      Nobody could accuse me of being naive in these matters bud…

    • @fluffyheed9166
      @fluffyheed9166 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@TynesideLife thanks for the response Eddy. I know you are not naive regarding policing. You did say that you couldn't hear what was being said. I am not taking sides. I can see others are arguing over it without knowing the full facts. I do think it's worth pointing out that the lads were possibly drunk, one of them resisted arrest and possibly caused damage in a cell.

    • @geordietoonforlife.1155
      @geordietoonforlife.1155 Před 10 měsíci +4

      If that’s the case how come Everton fans set of flares when teams arrive and the police are present I don’t see or hear of arrests during the welcoming of the teams?
      If it’s an offence like you say and I don’t doubt you why is no action taken against Everton fans?

  • @gerrythompson7613
    @gerrythompson7613 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Police seemed very heavy handed

  • @Flukey_1970
    @Flukey_1970 Před 10 měsíci +9

    Seems very heavy handed I normally raise an eyebrow when someone who is being arrested says the police were rough but their is no doubt on that given you filmed it Eddie, it looks like the police had a zero tolerance towards visiting fans and that leads me onto the question, what if it was it was Man City fans. Guess we will never know.

  • @patrickscott838
    @patrickscott838 Před 10 měsíci +1

    One law for them and another law for us!

  • @peterarmstrong3298
    @peterarmstrong3298 Před 10 měsíci +17

    Disgraceful heavy handed policing by tyrants. Treating football fans like rioters.

  • @redl1ght1
    @redl1ght1 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Theres no smoke without flare😂

  • @guywilloughby3383
    @guywilloughby3383 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Looking at the video I can completely understand where the lads are coming from but we can't hear what was said and we don't know if they used verbals against the police which then caused them to be arrested.. I personally wouldn't ever consider lighting a flare anywhere, let alone outside a football ground .

    • @TynesideLife
      @TynesideLife  Před 10 měsíci

      I watched it and the police put up with verbals every day.
      The lads could have been reported for summons to court and escorted off the land, rather than causing an unnecessary scene, reduce risk of injury and taking four police officers off the street

  • @craigpartytime298
    @craigpartytime298 Před 10 měsíci +4

    That is correct for every ground it is illigal to have flair or pyro but as a city fan I agree the gmp are heavy handed, but just to make u aware they arrested 3 city fans outside the ground despite their being 30 city fans flares!!! Sorry you had such a experience at Manchester city but it isn't city it's gmp

    • @craigpartytime298
      @craigpartytime298 Před 10 měsíci +3

      The other problem is and it isn't just gmp is that match day policing for all football games isn't just provided by gmp so the gmp will put a national wide request for officers to do overtime at football grounds as they are contracted to provide this service by the football clubs so effectively the club's are hiring gmp to provide the service so they need extra officers over and above the normal policing, so they just do what they please!!! No need for the navy handed tactics even if it was illigal and is know that you can't have them anywhere at a ground, that includes coach parkz car park ect but they could have used discretion and said hey lads put them out

  • @MrLadiesman216
    @MrLadiesman216 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I agree,pinning them to the floor & arresting them was a bit harsh,confiscating the flares/smoke bombs & a slap on the wrist would have sufficed,but you’ve gotta be so careful around the police.

  • @thumpertoon76
    @thumpertoon76 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Eddie Man Citys ground is not owned by Manchester City its actually still owned by Manchester City Council so its a PUBLIC AREA and not private ground.....its the same as Newcastle leased out by the council

    • @TynesideLife
      @TynesideLife  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Hi mate, if I may explain an important difference.
      The council own the land but it’s leased by Man City, maintained by Man City funds and not by the tax payer, making it private land that is fenced off and gated. This isn’t ‘public land’ in terms of criminal law.
      The public have an implied invitation to enter the land of the Etihad on match days but can be lawfully removed should you not abide by stadium rules, or laws. This can’t happen on ‘Public Land’ ie walking down the street, unless there is a temporary law in place that makes it a ‘Designated Area’.
      The exact same laws apply at St James’ Park. I can be forced to leave the stadium land outside of the ground, even though the land is ‘owned’ by the council. The land is leased by the club and therefore have particular rights in law regarding trespass.
      I hope this clarifies things 👍🏻

  • @norbertgoulash5482
    @norbertgoulash5482 Před 10 měsíci +17

    fully behind you on this, police being too heavy handed. their a law unto themselves , absolutely no need. disgusting, disgraceful but the same thing happened to me and my son at St Jameses Park. 10 years ago. I've seen it happen there a few times to other fans .

  • @da90sReAlvloc
    @da90sReAlvloc Před 10 měsíci +7

    They should have just told them. You can't do that here , maybe give them a warning ,
    But come on they break a law they didn't know existed,
    Good video Eddie 👍

    • @philgray1023
      @philgray1023 Před 9 měsíci

      Unfortunately ignorance of the law is not an acceptable defence. Plenty of cops are evidence of that. It was over the top given the minor nature of the offence. No doubt those cops will get a right back patting back at the station.

  • @colinryles7997
    @colinryles7997 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Flares have no place in football.

  • @jm8308
    @jm8308 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hi Eddie looks a bit strong handed by footage tbh, however simple rule of thumb do not take things like flares anywhere full stop very little sympathy. Flares are not designed or meant to be used for any other reason other than what they are made for they have no place anywhere else full stop. Maybe this will teach a few others a valuable lesson

  • @waynemurray5264
    @waynemurray5264 Před 9 měsíci +4

    As a season ticket holder at MCFC for 47 years and on behalf of City supporters we’re very sorry you two had this nasty experience at our club. This is typical of GMP and doesn’t reflect on us as City supporters. There’s only a small percentage of idiots who want to spoil the day, you can tell the father and son are proper fans and didn’t deserve this treatment. GMP are pathetic and see football fans as an easy target, try getting hold of one when you’ve been burgled or assaulted and you’ve no chance. What an absolute waste taking this to court. Hope you 2 chaps can carry on following your club.

  • @helpmehelp3009
    @helpmehelp3009 Před 10 měsíci +4

    No wonder the public has no respect for our police. The police must have thought that's my arrests for the day, and gone back to the station and written up their reports and spent the rest of the day drinking tea! Geardies are not bad people at their ground there's a great atmosphere, they welcome fans from other cities. YOU have let the great city of MANCHESTER dOWN!

  • @bigmorgan3640
    @bigmorgan3640 Před 10 měsíci +10

    the cops should of told them flares are not allowed and let them be on there way god luck to the boys 💣free the geordie two

    • @markillingworth1972
      @markillingworth1972 Před 10 měsíci

      55 years old shouldn’t you really know at that age

    • @ToonVids23
      @ToonVids23 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@markillingworth1972 they arent allowed in the ground their flares they aren't illegal

  • @deeboal8643
    @deeboal8643 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Shocking

  • @jamiefairlie4837
    @jamiefairlie4837 Před 10 měsíci

    i hope there is witnesses to say at court and get them off nothing worse than police victomising inocent people

  • @alecmacknight
    @alecmacknight Před 10 měsíci +7

    Look like two proper charlies...

    • @marcot4863
      @marcot4863 Před 10 měsíci

      Stop sniffing the Charlie.. SMB

  • @Tim_Mannion
    @Tim_Mannion Před 10 měsíci +9

    They lost me after tyey claimed tye police stripped and battered them in the cells. Maybe they got fiesty with the fuzz but in no way were they battered.

    • @chrisbravo920
      @chrisbravo920 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Whitley Bay hasn't had a nick for years. Every nick now is covered with CCTV inside and out.
      He got Battered black and blue apparently. Clearly didn't.

    • @Styluss10
      @Styluss10 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Spot on. They have 100% resisted and gave their 50p worth, you can see by looking at them and the way they act/go on

    • @user-hs3dg8jy3t
      @user-hs3dg8jy3t Před 10 měsíci

      I've been hit when the doors are coled and there isn't anyone there. Bunch of bullies.

  • @michaelcollins7589
    @michaelcollins7589 Před 10 měsíci +3

    They come across as a bit rough to be fair. Let’s be honest, they look like the fans you avoid at a match.

  • @apb3440
    @apb3440 Před 10 měsíci

    I thought it was illegal to set off a flare unless it’s in an emergency ?

  • @RushfanUK
    @RushfanUK Před 10 měsíci +7

    It's illegal to let a flare off in a public place, the police may have been a bit heavy but they broke the law, off course Liverpool fans can do what they want though.

  • @Steph-wq9it
    @Steph-wq9it Před 10 měsíci +2

    Definitely heavy handed by Police, I’m sure the situation could have been handled better.
    BUT! My opinion is any kind of pyrotechnics 🧨 Flares, Fireworks etc should be banned from sale to the public. They can fall into the wrong hands, children & idiots.
    I have seen horrific injuries from misuse to both people & animals. 😡
    SO WHY TAKE A CHANCE?
    A national ban on possession of such items should be enforced, then everyone knows the score.
    Don’t see the point of them really.

  • @grahamdhv3812
    @grahamdhv3812 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Different rules for Everton fans. See NUFC there last season.

  • @SuperCityMCFC
    @SuperCityMCFC Před 10 měsíci +2

    You can't let of flares especially at an away ground. Come on fellas use your noggins lets not act like scousers.😂....one thing I would say though it's a shame the police aren't so quick to act when we get these just stop oil clowns blocking the streets

  • @susysamalex
    @susysamalex Před 10 měsíci +2

    Respect is like a boomerang, you need to throw it out, to get it back! The police rely on policing by consent, not sure they are selling themselves or their services very well lately.

  • @michaelt6028
    @michaelt6028 Před 9 měsíci

    From the small clip I have seen it seems GMP officers acted inappropriately it also appears as if they failed to follow the Miranda Act, personally I would advise them to contact Hudgell solicitors based i manchester they have a good track record taking on GMP.

  • @pauljames77777
    @pauljames77777 Před 9 měsíci

    Any up date on this Eddie?

  • @richard5652
    @richard5652 Před 9 měsíci

    I hope someone gets the police body cam footage and shows it in court. Surely this would get thrown out of court? What are the chances of the body cam footage going missing

  • @manclarks4558
    @manclarks4558 Před 9 měsíci

    This is shocking behavior from GMP, you Geordie's are a top bunch magnificent support good banter. Sorry for the treatment from GMP lads!!

  • @14723ian
    @14723ian Před 9 měsíci

    The Dad was in the 1st episode of the Amazon Prime documentary at 37:13.

  • @tooniehd
    @tooniehd Před 10 měsíci +2

    Not condoning the officers heavy handedness but it is illegal to set of flares, fireworks and smoke bombs off in a public place 😬 but a warning should of been appropriate action for this situation. All the best lads hope everything goes well and yas dont end up with a ban. Toon Toon ⚫️⚪️

  • @woobiewoo5405
    @woobiewoo5405 Před 10 měsíci +1

    you could see the police enjoying being power crazy ! bad policing

  • @leekelly5655
    @leekelly5655 Před 10 měsíci +1

    alright Eddie unfair for the lad's police out of order

  • @steverobinson9763
    @steverobinson9763 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Handcuffs behind!

  • @TheMagpieReview
    @TheMagpieReview Před 10 měsíci +1

    Seemed a bit extreme like by the police I hope the lads don’t get punished for this

  • @grahamslate4183
    @grahamslate4183 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I'm a city fan you have been treated wrongful by the police lets hope they drop all charges and bring a bit of common sense to all this

  • @TonyEgg93
    @TonyEgg93 Před 10 měsíci +3

    A warning would have been enough. Way too heavy handed.

    • @ian-flanagan
      @ian-flanagan Před 10 měsíci

      Warnings only work if you keep track of people. I don’t any facial recognition tracking people over the day, or some national database tracking people over their life over something minor like this.
      Doesn’t warrant any serious punishment or heavy-handed treatment, but still, warnings don’t work in this case

  • @8NEXTONE8
    @8NEXTONE8 Před 10 měsíci

    Excessive use of force. Make sure to sue

  • @aandnfishing496
    @aandnfishing496 Před 9 měsíci

    flares are quite offensive to some people…i think anything more than a 6/7 inch width definitely belongs in the 70s…it’ll be drain pipes soon!!!

  • @markcorner7733
    @markcorner7733 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Eddie, please explain to me why football fans find it necessary to set off flares and why are they even legal to buy! What is the point? Between transport exhaust, endless world wild fires and other crap we humans pump into the air, lets stop with the flares. Enjoy the matches and support your team properly. I saw Manchester United acting like children at the new Tottenham stadium, banging their hands against the walls keeping time to a song about a long gone player. I understand that Old Trafford is barn but still, respect property people.

  • @Charlton2010
    @Charlton2010 Před 9 měsíci

    Disgusting over the top behaviour by the Police and I 💯 agree with your opinion on the matter in the video description

  • @user-TTT43
    @user-TTT43 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Not exactly the brightest are they?

  • @jamiefender6909
    @jamiefender6909 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Of course it’s on Haloween one of those occult dates. Good luck lads.

  • @marktodd7397
    @marktodd7397 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Manchester city actually let off fireworks in the ground before kick off when they were showing off the flags. i think this was out of order to be so heavy handed. I hope the club come in and try and sort it out for them.

    • @freddiehardicre8752
      @freddiehardicre8752 Před 10 měsíci +1

      They fireworks we lit on the stadium roof no danger to anyone.

    • @MancNinja
      @MancNinja Před 10 měsíci

      Stupid comment, they were professional pyrotechnics fired from the roof.

  • @robertstapleton8100
    @robertstapleton8100 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Absolutely unbelievable. Mind I remember going to Man City in the eighties and we had gone in a transit van and we had parked at Victoria station. We put on bus back to the station after the match . All the fans who were on the football specials had left we were leaving the car park and out of nowhere all these City fans surrounded our van and there was about ten lads in the back and they managed to open the back doors and they slashed one of the lads ! My mates dad who was driving drove off and there was a PC across the road and i opened the passenger window and said did you see that and I continued to say that where was the nearest hospital as I explained that one of the lads gad been slashed and amazingly he said P””s off you Geordie scum !! So the lad needed stitches.
    So hopefully the CPS come to their senses and let these lads off .