IT'S CRAZY HOW MUCH WRESTLING HAS CHANGED!
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- It's an episode of the How Bad Can it Be Belt. This is Raw from August 24th 1998. There are so many storylines running at once and some much random stuff. I think it really shows how much wrestling has changed. Featuring the 4th hell in a cell match and the Brawl for All final!
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the Mankind stretcher entrance alone is cool enough to keep the show out of my shuv-it zone
He should of yelled weeeee lol
@@travisjohnson6358eeded fired for eating cheeseburgers m&ms
The great part about the attitude era both before and after the debut of smackdown was that it was an actual episodic show. You couldnt miss a week or you would be lost for a minute. Now you can not watch raw for 10 years and still have an idea of who the champion is.
This was the thing that got me really pumped up for AEW in the first 20 episodes or so, before they changed focus. Storytelling continuity and cliffhangers that actually got you invested in what and how things are gonna happen. Thing is that since Lucha Underground, nobody really pushed this formula again for real.
If they bring James Ellsworth back and make him as World Champion I'll back to watch Raw again 😄
Kevin Nash in WWE, has 21 matches after his WCW return. ROH season 3
Oh, the legendary run
Why do you want to torture this man?
@@LumpyAdams will get the big views
Honestly Marky, the reason I like your content is because you have such a different take on modern wrestling compared to everyone else. The IWC has this idea that wrestling has to appeal to the IWC and no one else. And as AEW has shown, it's a vocal crowd, but not exactly a large one. Whereas I believe wrestling should be varied and open to new ideas. When everything tries to be the exact same thing, you can only ever appeal to the ever dwindling hardcore fan base. So don't listen to the haters, they're full of crap.
Isn't that what WWE fans feel? That's what WWF fans felt and WCW fans felt back in the day. It's territorial love for their product. I remember TNA fans doing the same for Cruiserweights and women's wrestling and tag wrestling saying "this is how it should be".
Tribalism to pro wrestling has always existed. Also, the IWC has been comfy accepting other styles of wrestling from throwbacks to territory wrestling (FTR) to international wrestling styles (Lucha, Japanese and World of Sport styled in ring action are absolutely beloved). Hell, big men powerhouse hosses? Folks like Cage and Keith Lee. High flying action? Take a pick.
If anything, the IWC has been really supportive of any and every trend in wrestling, so long as it makes sense. You can't tell me that there's no long term storytelling in IWC favored product, or heated feuds that elad to massive brawls and bigass blow offs with immense spots comparable to the Attitude Era.
@@singerdude1992 yeah but the point is, nobody's trying to be different. Maybe nwa, but I don't think anybody has thought about NWA since Jim Cornette left. It's the chocolate and vanilla principle, which one's better? Doesn't matter, as long as you get your preferred flavor. And nothing about modern wrestling really is my cup of tea. So if anything, I want companies to try something different so that I, and the large amount of dormant fans might get something they can appreciate. It might fail, but better to try and fail than to not try at all.
And your point about the IWC liking things that make sense is only a half truth. They like things that make sense when its convenient. Because the IWC collectively agree that AEW can do no wrong, and the WWE can only do wrong. Orange Cassidy for example is a character that makes no logical sense, but he's an Indy darling because of where he works.
I like his content because it always seems sarcastic but maybe that's the way he talks normally
@@RegretfulDeadMan Orange Cassidy can really wrestle when he tries though. He's very underrated in the ring, although I will admit that his gimmick isn't for everyone.
@@RegretfulDeadMan The Undertaker doesn't make any logical sense. What's your point? You just personally don't like the gimmick, but many people do.
If I have to watch the TNA fantasy booking video 50 thousand times by myself then I will. When The Hawk squawks, other videos can take a walk, get hit with a brick, and outlined with chalk.
For fans of the modern style, there's plenty of hours of content for those fans to watch. The Hawk proposes something different, and I'm all for it. There's more hours of easily accessible wrestling content than ever but very little variety with how much there is to watch, especially with AEW / ROH / TNA cross promoting. We are all going to have our likes and dislikes, but unfortunately people can't keep it to themselves. If these toxic fans are so adamant that AEW is king and any disagreement is both wrong and bad for the wrestling industry, then Ring of Honor wouldn't have went out of business. Twice.
There's plenty of shows out there, why can't I have it all? Why can't we as fans have it all? Why can't I get a bunch of different shows to tickle my fancy when they need tickling? Why can't I get the nuttiness of Lucha Underground and WCW, the high spots of AEW, the hardcore blood and gore of CZW and ECW, the technical prowess of NXT 1.0 and NJPW, the character work of WWE, the grittiness of old school NWA? Why can't we all just love all this wonderful art we call pro wrestling in all its forms? WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO CATER TO THE MOST VOCAL OPINIONS ON THE INTERNET?
Totally agree mate. There is only one real wrestling style of show now….and it’s not good enough. I’d love someone to do an experiment where they tried something different and if it fails fine…I will admit I was wrong the whole time. But nobodies even tried!
@@Markyd123 Hawk my man. I completely concur with Musicandmagic909.
Your previous episode was fantastic. I said it then and I'll say it again. You should be a booker. The whole idea was genius and the best wrestling show I've sen in years. Loved how you edited.
Avid follower of your content. Keep it up in any way you feel happy taking it bro. Don't be hard on yourself for tying.
Yeah the last episode was fine and i understand what you were aiming for. As far as the russo comments your storyline was far too clear and un-muddled to be Russo booking.
@@Markyd123 the Hawk’s TNA booking was top notch. I’d be happy if TNA stole even a fraction of the ideas you proposed.
@@Markyd123 as youve noticed no matter what the attitude era marks will never say anything negative about the attitude era and they think it was flawless ,but have no issue shitting on every era before or after
I forgot how people would go apeshit with those laser pens.
Listen I enjoyed the fantasy booking. Honestly I am confused to what impact is trying to do. Don't worry Marky D. I will make sure the series continues one way or another.
Me too
Same
marky d has enough clout as a tna expert that his opinion is very much respected by me. Respect him way more than whoever is booking tna right now.
it was a weird episode, but I distinctly remember enjoying it in my teenage years. easily preferable to most of what is going on these days
Or proof that quality has deteriorated since the territory days to the point where a person can find this enjoyable.
Exactly
I was about to say the same thing. I very clearly remember watching this episode when I was 13 and me and my buddy thought it was awesome
@@jared.mohammed no I would say this is league's better than the crap in WWE and aew
@@shadycnetwork Mostly because of nostalgia.
This is still better than the average episode of All Slapnuts Wrestling
He’s not even involved in Aew lol he’s a special guest ref at summerslam
@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 Oof, that didn't age well AT ALL. ShitNut is on AEW, and once again, I tuned out. Jarrett is so insufferable and the worst.
Steve Blackman was and still is the man. Also i quite liked your Impact booking video like you came up with some interesting ideas and made it interesting. Im a little bored with all wrestling being very similar in the modern day and a little difference can do wonders
Steve blackmail is an unsung hero in the attitude era, apart from the big 3 in the main event scene this man, shamrock and rock (with his I'll gimmick) kept me watching
@@anthonyjennison6304 the Rock is not a part of the big 3 in the main event scene at that time?
@@anijeepa Definitely not
Blackman had a nice niche during the Attitude Era when he was hardcore champion and tag partner with Al Snow.. He will always be infamous for "knocking" Shane off the Titantron at Summerslam 2000 and then doing an elbow drop off it.
@@ethanpfohl6189 then who is
This actually looked like a super entertaining episode i wish it was still this good
I enjoyed your video on TNA. Your fantasy booking is pretty damn good for someone who doesn't do it regularly and can only get better so long as you keep at it.
How anyone could think this show was bad, I'll never know.
I mean, having the Brawl For All certainly puts it in contention...
because not every attitude era wwe show was good 🤷♂️
Attitude era wasn’t perfect
While it wasn't a bad show it sure was random as hell also 2-minute matches are just a waste of TV IMO also overexposing the BoD
This was a million times better than anything on tv today... But, I guess now they cater to toddlers.
Too busy, but still looked entertaining. You'd be wondering what would happen next the whole show, even if the results were a bit disappointing. Looked miles better than the Nitro episode that's the current champ.
God raw used to be amazing holy shit
I thought this was a great raw, it was the one that made me stop watching nitro permanently; so many random things happened with the highlight mankind coming down on a stretcher- anyways it was a lot of fun to watch; way better then what’s on raw today
I always wondered if it was JBL getting battered by Butterbean at Mania would he have been the notorious bully he ended up being
I'm probably way off here but it seemed like JBL started settling down after getting humbled by Joey Styles. Getting your ass kicked by a guy smaller than you is what hurts the ego. Butterbean would've just shortened his career
RAW was decent on Monday. Even a wild Slapnuts appeared.
@KarypoSs "SHUV IT BOY"
Slapnuts 😂😂😂😂😂
Val Venis was a great wrestler, not technically, but he did his part in a bunch of good to great matches with people who could move.
My wife and I started the attitude era together recently and I'm actually surprised how much I enjoy val venus as a wrestler and character. His move set and speed were very solid and his character is ABSOLUTELY STUPID but he plays it so god damn well.
This RAW is better than any modern wrestling show I've seen in years. Nowhere near the "How Bad Can It Be?" belt.
I actually liked it. I miss this kind of craziness
How can it be a contender for the How Bad Can it Be Belt when the emperor Double JJ, Jeff Jarrett made an appearance? It boosted the show from a solid 4/10 to a solid 12/10. Also, don't listen to the haters. I am very much a fan of the old nostalgic stuff but variety is the spice of life. And it was an excellent video. We appreciate the effort in keeping us entertained. Anyone who disagrees can get a brick to the head from me and the Brick to the Head Boys.
The segment with Chyna and The Nation was wild lol that shit is arguably worse than the Bark like a Dog segment
Seems like a highly entertaining show.
If you stuck in the 90s and Beavis and Butt-Head and Jerry Springer is all you watch. People in general hate modern day Family Guy which is car crash TV that is what WWE or AEW would be like if Vince Russo wrote either show today.
@@andrebryant5081 idk, modern day family guy isnt as crash tv as it used to be (there's less asides and more storyline development, and more diversity and stronger liberal values, for example), and just like wrestling it's become watered down and/or pc, and has suffered in ratings last few years. Agreed that eventually crash tv burned itself out, however seems we're on the other end of the spectrum now and stuff all over seems bland and/or pc, so perhaps why some nostalgia for the crash tv era. Not everything has to be Springer or BnB but not everything has to be Modern Family or Friends. Tough to find a balance
Especially when... A WILD SLAPNUTS APPEARED!...TWICE!
that bump foley took on the apron looked nasty
12:56 is satisfying AF
The fans shining laser lights on the wrestlers in the late 90's was very annoying
As a pretty new guy to your content and a life long wrestling fan, your fantasy booking of tna has me wanting to watch TNA like it's actually going to happen. I believe you're spot on with booking it going forward to make the show interesting again. Also, this video was great
The Hawk!!!
Hey MarkyD, longtime fan here. I doubt you remember me but Ive been with you since the old school early videos. Around 2019-ish. I used to comment more when I had more time and so forth, but work and life wore me down lol.
Anyway My point is there are tons of people that dig your work and watch your videos without commenting. Don't worry so much about the fraction of your audience that complains about everything.
I've been a wrestling fan for a long time, and it never really changes. People act like these new AEW fans are so toxic, but those mindsets and negative kind of comments have been around for ages. I recall getting hate way back when I gave a ROH show a 6/10. lol
Also if you think that fanbase is bad, try being a Puroresu fan like me, the Puro fan scene is full of elitist snobs and edgelords.
Props to Road Dogg for wearing the cutoff Trenton Titans T-shirt. That one throws me back to my youth! Kinda funny the show was in Philly, but hey, it's one hour away. Glad to see my hometown recognized.
I looked up the ratings for this night.
Nitro: 5.2
Raw: 4.7
Both Nitro and Raw had improved from the previous week. I could actually see some things that in the context of the times being disappointing like Severn/Shamrock & Mankind/Kane having a non-finish and the Brawl for All.
The thing is why give time and Hype if you end it
@@lewisaino That's probably the big takeaway from this time. New Generation was really bad about having non-finishes in long matches, and this didn't bother people that much in the Hulkamania and Attitude Era because the matches were significantly shorter.
@@Carlitonsp1 I mean is like playing a Game and the Last Boss just nopes or dies easily.
what was on Nitro that week?
@@freakfoxvevo7915 your mom, on a pole!!
they really had a hell in a cell on tv w no ppv pay wall
Hawk,
Your story line and match making was tighter than a mosquito's ass! The fantasy booking was smart, witty, and was so nice, I'll watch it twice!! 🦅
I hope there is more fantasy bookings in our future. The editing and ideas were great.
1:16 I liked your fantasy booking sure some of it seemed kind of campy or soap opera like but it reminded me of the Attitude or Ruthless Aggression eras of wrestling and those were the most entertaining story wise, I mean who didn't like Stone Cold beating Booker T in the supermarket that was campy as hell but funny as hell too.
Ignore the haters Marky, I loved your last video!
“A wild slapnuts appears for the second time tonight” made me laugh harder than I should have.
I would still watch the worst episode of the Attitude Era, Nitro or ECW then anything we got today.
People always shit on 2000 WCW, but it was miles better than todays garbage.
I get the crack that you're making at today's product but seriously WCW in the year 2000 was beyond sh*t and today's product is so much better.
@@marcespinoza6068 😂 😂 😂
@@marcespinoza6068 It really isnt though....
@@AntiLifeEquation1 bro, u need to eat smell, and touch grass ong
The Fantasy booking episode was incredible, I loved it and really wanna see more
I really enjoyed your booking video, Marky. Impact has potential
My man hawk I am willing to do anything to make sure you get 50k views on the fantasy booking vid. Its one of the best wrestling related videos I’ve seen in a long time and I really like what your booking ideas are to the point where I can see it legit happening if TNA really tried. Don’t listen to the people and please keep doing more of them hawk!
Better a two-minute TV match that leads to a fifteen-minute PPV match than a twenty-minute TV match leading to a ten-minute PPV match.
Russo-Ferrara era WWF was amazing. I also really liked their first 3 months in WCW in late ‘99 before everyone started interfering and Russo left.
People never mention how good WCW was before people interfered
I used to despise Russo, but looking back on WCW his heart was in the right place wanting to push the young guys and gals, but he was sabotaged by the Hogans and all with creative control. Russo had wacky storyline but his heart was in the right place
Nah when Russo left the product got better
@@cjskylark6659 it really didn’t. Maybe the first year you could argue but by 2001-2002 it had noticeably declined.
@@cjskylark6659 no
Yeah I can't comprehend how you could be an old school fan and modern fan at the same time. It's two different worlds. I'm an old school fan. Haven't watched wrestling in 20 years.
I remember several months ago, you said that you were going to make a video on Gail Kim and how she was the Triple H of the Knockouts Division. When will that video be made?
I will make sure he gets it done . Expect it within the next two weeks 🙏🏾
Dude thinks the lead up to SvS 98
Is one of the worst shows ever?
Gotta admit, I forgot just a few minutes into the video that this was supposed to be a contender for the "how bad can it be belt", for the sole reason that today's stuff is so uninteresting by comparison.
I enjoyed the booking show not everything can be cosplayers doing flippy shit
I enjoy all of your videos whether I agree or not. I plan on sticking around forever. Been here since 32k and I plan to stay!
Good ol Vinny Mac having a seizure all the way through Takers Choke Slam had me dying laughing when I was a teenager! Sh*t was so classic! It was so bad ass living through the Attitude Era!
The last video was amazing marky keep grinding 👍💪🏻
I loved that booking video. Please keep that up. It was new and different
Don't ever change, your channel is amazing and everytime a wild slap nut appears my life feels better. Modern wrestling fans (I'm talking to u aew) could never to the J O B
this is a great video, this whole show is shown through out Summer slam 98, a great PPV (a fave of mine anyway) well done video here, Love the WILD JEFF JARRETT APPEARS and the Pokemon music is perfect. The commentary, just like the classic 90s
a modern day Vince Russo is desperately needed
shit is so boring today
WWE is boring and AEW is idiotic.
@@sharmat1611 accurate
I love your vids on the new stuff
My Russo-comment was not meant to attack you. In fact it was the opposite, I quite like Russos booking and that he always had stories for anybody, not unlike you in your last vid. Sorry if there was a misunderstanding, I thought the video was great, as it's usual for a video by the Hawk
It’s okay. Everyone knows my views on Russo and I can praise aspects of his work.
@@Markyd123 Yeah, I should've thought of that. Sorry for that. And I really liked the idea of Eddie Slapnuts being a surfer dude :D
Mankind on the stretcher should be a part of create a entrance in future wwe game. That was cool as fuck
That was an awesome episode you did about tna
I love all of this. Shit was so wild.
Great show
That's stupid, your fantasy booking was fun and entertaining. Even had me thinking of more ideas for one of my TEW 2020 saves.
I loved this and had to come back to make a comment. This is some DAMN! good entertainment
"Dont Piss me off" was a catchphrase that JJ was trying to make happen at that time marky.
I like your new content it’s really funny
I loved your show Hawk
“Then Kane emerges from the same casket- what?” I lost it.
This entire show was ridiculous
I thought the last video was interesting and enjoyed seeing that kind of stuff even if I didn't necessarily agree with what you were saying. I actually don't agree with a lot of your opinions on wrestling but I'm still an avid viewer of the channel if that's worth anything.
THanks brother
@@Markyd123 aight now do Naito's TNA run with No Limit
Bro keep making your videos the way you want! It’s your video & if nobody likes it then they can kick rocks
Man say what you want about the attitude era but it was anything but boring it was great
This was a typical episode of Attitude Era Raw. This one is actually one of my favorite episodes. Glad to see coverage on this though its definitely not a terrible episode, just how the show was back then
I'm honestly happy to see this
People are gonna hate no matter what. I really enjoyed your last video and wanna see more of that sort of thing.
Was just watching your video of Syx in wcw
Funny lad. I actually sort of remember this episode as well from when it aired.
One of the best shows
That episode was better than any nitro episode between 1999-2001
I remember watching this raw when I was 8, I loved it
found your last video well done, and loved it. personally i'd love for impact to step up there game.
Apparently a Hell in a Cell DQ is terrible in 2019 with Seth Rollins and The Fiend but the same thing is perfectly fine is okay in Attitude Era in 1998 with Kane and Mankind. Double standards are alive and well in the IWC
Free TV vs a PPV.
Kane and Mankind are legends. Bray Wyatt is a fat juggalo with 1 halfdecent match under his belt becausehe had Daniel Bryan to carry his overrated out of shape ass.
Nice video Hawk! Did you watch this week's Raw? I watched the full episode for the first time in years and IMO it was really good! Loads of interesting characters and storylines.
Keep doing the fantasy booking, it was awesome!
This sounds like a fun video for this channel.
😄👍
8:42 OH GOD, FOLEY'S HEAD ON THAT SUICIDE DIVE
That Monday episode was hilarious and entertaining
I'm too old to take pro wrestling seriously, especially the current product. Your channel is the only wrestling content I watch these days as its entertaining! Keep up the good work!
I love your video ❤️
The TNA booking video was so good hawk
this is amazing comparing to today's WWE stuff...
I also enjoyed the fantasy booking video and would enjoy more similar content.
this ep is like 40x better than that wcw ep. not even anywhere close.
i vaguely remember this. It was so bizare for sure.
This was the first wrestling show I ever went to! There’s a lot going on by todays standards but for the era we definitely thought we got our moneys worth. Mankind riding down the ramp on the stretcher and the ending of the show with the fire effect were visuals I’ll never forget, even if I don’t remember any of the actual wrestling that took place.
After the show went off the air, I remember Vince getting on the mic and pointing out that it was his birthday. Then he ate a stunner and Stone Cold stomped him out on the ramp to send us home happy.
I remember watching this episode 😂
I understand why you're reluctant to make more fantasy bookings, but not only was it very entertaining, you also have some really excellent ideas. Also, Russo gets a ridiculous amount of hate, but let's not forget that he is hugely responsible for the attitude era even occurring, so the comparison, in my opinion, is that you're provocative in your booking ideas.
I won't blame you for not making more, but I personally love it bro.
I agree with anyone saying you shouldn't talk about modern wrestling. You're in your element when you go back to wrestling's hey day. You calling Orange Trashidy v. Wardlow a good 'David v. Goliath' match was a bit embarrassing to hear.
Love to be part of the shove it squad 💯
Seems like a very cool episode to me
I noticed Gangrel’s exposed stomach. Was this the moment Vince lost all faith in him?