Hulk Hogan - Immortal faction - PLEASE END THIS!
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In 2010 after the TNA WWE monday night wars ended, TNA decided they needed to start up a big new storyline. So they started having Abyss act crazy and Sting being all cryptic about hating Hogan and Bischoff. It lead to the birth of the Immortal Faction with Jeff Hardy as the main eventer. It did not go well and the entire storyline was filled with wrestling plotholes and nothing made sense. Here's the full story of Hulk Hogan's Immortal!
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TNA cannot help itself with having guys who were feuding weeks earlier reveal to actually be in cahoots.
Swerve bro I swear to God bro
Or having a constant Take Over story line which got boring as ass
SWERVE BRO THE MARKS WILL LOVE IT BRO
Vince Russo booking
they learned from the Corporate Ministry.
The banter alone between Bully Ray and Scott Steiner justifies this factions existence.
Looking back on TNA at this time it does become frustrating because you seem to notice that every time a faction takeover storyline ends, it's only a matter of months before the next one starts. There was never not a faction trying to take over.
Which is why I don't mind having a roster with several factions instead of one faction with half the roster
@Andre Calouro WWE has one of the best faction storylines in wrestling history going on right now.
If they'd kept Fortune as a separate faction and fueded both factions, they'd have been fine. Lots of great matches you could've had between the talent on both sides. Plus, it Hogan and Flair wanted in the main that damn bad, they coulda recreated a feud. But they blew this whole thing to shit.
@shortyg1018
What roman lames vs roman lames
The other clowns vs the Satan click
???
Blacks vs who cares
That was a very passionate pin Eric did on the Young Buck 😂
Funny Matt Morgan's whole "I can't stand watching you make Anderson wrestle with a concussion" is a catalyst for a face turn when mere months ago Morgan's whole gimmick was kicking people against a metal post trying to give concussions. TNA writers just did not watch their own program.
The problem with TNA during this time was that it felt like WCW went off the air for a couple of years and it just came back reincarnated as this version of TNA. All the same stuff that killed that brand ran this one into the ground, too. Trying to recapture the NWO vibe. That only happens once in a generation and you can't force it back into popularity no matter how hard you try.
Even worse, it felt like just as u described. WCW relaunched a decade later with its big names who were old then, now 10 years older pushing the same tired concepts like NWO knockoffs, Sting in the rafters and Hogan(who couldn't even take a standard slam anymore) making Jobbers out of the TNA Roster. They even tried to do the Wolfpac again because "WWE doesn't own the Wolfpac theme brother!" 😂
@@nick56677even the immortal theme sounded like watered down nwo theme
Well the same players were involved. Nash , Hogan and Bischoff
“And Abyss ‘did it for The Rock’” I will never get tired of that joke 🤣
2010 had so many wasted opportunities and so much potential it’s a shame
I kinda wish Jeff Hardy got to explore his Anti-Christ gimmick more. I know his demons got the better of him at this point and I get why they wanted to distance himself from everything involved with the Victory Road 2011 main event but Jeff made an unexpectedly good heel and was genuinely interesting and I wish he got to do more with it.
Hawk was born in TNA. Hawk world order for the life.
The build up to 10 10 10 was awesome.
It's true. It's because of you, Hawk Hogan.
I was there when Storm beat Angle. Had been on a trip to the US with my kid, and were offered tickets to the taping at Universal that same day. Couldn't say no.
It was also the night Gail Kim returned
I had forgotten how many times they tried the massive faction war story in TNA😂 those years all blend together for me
I think the line, "Yes, Bichoff holds a win over the young bucks" sums up this entire storyline
The infamous faction that buried TNA.
@AM. That was Aces & Eights, after Aces & Eights people stopped watching TNA. Bully Ray was great though, the only good thing about the Aces & Eights was heel Bully Ray.
@Mike Sawyer people only watched it after E started to suck
@Mike Sawyer TNA from 05-08 is far better than any other wrestling on the air now
So just like nwo
Dixieland was the faction that buried TNA
This is actually one of the worst factions in TNA wrestling it nearly killed the company
i remember watching this lead up to 10-10-10 as a child, and i genuinely believed Abyss killed RVD. At the time, i was OBSESSED with RVD Jeff Hardy & Aj. I was again heartbroken when Jeff turned heel because Aj already was at the time under the wing of Flair. i miss when wrestling would leave an emotional effect on the fans and keep us fully invested.
I was a young teen in 96 and got to enjoy wrestling then and it was amazing at that agen
You seriously are using 2010 TNA as an example of "man wrestling used to be soo good compared to today!"
THE HAWK covering immortal, and osw covering the main event mafia at the same time is a dream come true
Ironically WWE did same with the Nexus trying to recreate the NWO (kinda) and that failed big time and yet WWE still beat TNA
The Nexus had potential, then SummerSlam 2010 happened lol.
The Nexus was going great until John Cena decided to bury the absolute SHIT outta them.
They did the same thing with the sheild
@@sliderx1897 They didn't do the same thing with the Shield. Dean Ambrose said in the Shield's first interview, "We're not renegades, we're not mercenaries, we're not the Nexus, if you want the n.W.o, go buy the DVD. We're about principle, we're about honor and when honor no longer exists, we step in. We are the Shield." The Shield was a twisted form of justice.
@@rainy_guy he can say whatever he wants. So u have 3 "outsiders" from another company "invading" black and white promos, shaky camera work. Come in beat ppl up leave... idk u coulda fooled me. It amazes me that ppl take promo work for fact lol
Garrett Bischoff ended Immortal😂
This was when I started tuning out, just an ever-growing heel faction which basically everyone joined with at some point for no reason, where there were face and heel turns every week and every opponent of theirs just joined them for no reason and zero reference to past issues (Angle aligning with them after the blood feud with Jarrett and them being allies as if it never happened, WTF?!).
I always looked at Joker Sting as more of a Jim Carrey in the 90s Sting. Lol
Tbh the best thing about Immortal was Jeff Hardy’s heel run, I thought Jeff was fantastic as a heel, until Victory Road and you know what.
I thought Jeff’s heel run was fantastic until he had to ruin it all. Jeff’s heel theme Another Me was also fantastic.
As for Immortal itself, I wanted it to be TNA’s version of the Ministry Of Darkness.
Heel Jeff Hardy, Abyss, heel Matt Hardy, turn Suicide heel, and get some dark otherworldly characters involved. But no it was just an Authority stable, 3 years before WWE did their Authority stable.
Another me is a great song
@@Markyd123 the entrance to his sacrifice match vs Morgan is iconic
I am actually a big fan of his "Resurrection" theme for his return, I like it more than any of his other ones outside of No More Words. The idea of him becoming a face and trying to earn back the trust of the fans before going after Immortal was a good fit for the song imo
I really liked his AntiChrist personal gimmick too and looked liked it had potential but too bad it was short lived :(
Had I done this storyline Fortune would have never been in Imortal
Hell’s going on with my man’s back piece? It looks unfinished color it on son! 10:50
One of the most dumb things TNA ever did and no matter how bad or dismaying,I love this in a so bad it's good way.
I do like the angles of Bully, Anderson, Sting turning Joker Sting, Flair going nuts and the promos are fun to remember
I seriously think Joker Sting is underrated to this day. Sting was never a promo guy. Surfer Sting's promos were generic babyface ones of the time, and nothing interesting. Then of course Crow Sting. I thought it showed that Sting had a whole other side to his talent, and could carry a promo.
After hearing that this lead to Main Events going off air in the middle of the match or after the match or even not beginning at all
Immortal might actually worser than The Authority
"Yeah they almost killed me in the middle of a match for shock value but it was all a ruse!! You fell into our trap!!" - TNA factions
All I remember was the BAGGY suits by Fourtune…
I love here when Abyss is choking Hogan with his foot in the corner the Hulkster does his best to keep his doo rag from coming off, gotta cover that bald head brother!
I'd make a joke about the Immortal faction and "Immortal" by Adema, but it feels to obvious. Other than that, great video talking about this faction and it's weird, yet fascinating history.
One thing I've noticed about markyD is he's a big wrestling fan from like 2007 to 2011, especially TNA. I think he was too young to be a fan of wrestling in say 1997. Even tho he does cover that era a little bit. But I could see the love he had for TNA from 2007 to 2011 in his videos.
Prime wrestling for people 21 or around its age aka me
I actually am an attitude era fan. I just don’t talk about it much because there’s a thousand other channels doing that. I always try to make videos that are unique and tna kind of became my genre.
@@Markyd123 it’s definitely your genre and I like it. It’s an era I missed out on mostly. I’m probably about 10 years older than you. I’m 38. So I remember the full blown attitude era from 97 to 01 ish.
@@Markyd123who cares . Everything has been done before. Nothing is original. Cover everything and make it your own
@@65thhitman86 not true. I’m the only person who’s covered tna storylines in depth and ring ka king. Also I’m always working on finding wresting media no one else has seeb
For me the Immortal faction died after the Victory Road 2011 incident with Jeff Hardy.
had to get the wild slapnuts shirt 😂🔥
I see it as it was all bischoff to begin with . He was the one who told abyss to attack hardy week after week and probably said he would make him champion if he joins them and Hogan probably took a while to convince too but once bischoff mentioned taking over TNa Hogan agreed
The styles clash at 8:34 is terrifying
I'm glad someone else saw that, looked nasty.
I did like when Fortune turned on Immortal.
That green James Storm hat - the drip is real!
I really liked immortal I just didn't like how the X division got buried and the 6 sided ring was retired.
the nwo worked. one time. bishoff struck gold one time and then decided that nwo was really for life
first he dragged the storyline for so long that he basically destroyed WCW
and when he had the opportunity to manage another company he immediately tried to recreate it
both time ended really bad
you can create a hell faction of cool heels, or an hostile takeover
but the story must have a clear end or people will reject bogus infinite shady finish
and the factiion must not bloat too much
also maybe don't use as leader someone that can't wrestle anymore and that already during the original nwo run a decade before was extremely limited in the ring thanks t age and injuries
AJ Styles is one of the few men who looks bad in a suit. He just looks strange.
Angle/jarrett feud was best part of tv around that time. Really lovesd the mr.anderson/angle also!
I feel bad for the kurt stuff. No one wants to have their real life problems rubbed in their face.
Kurt is a strong mf. I couldn’t handle that.
It looks like so many of the older guys are wasting away during this time. I don't think Jeff Hardy was the only one of the main eventers that were taking copious amounts of....goodies, some of the highest ppl I've ever seen on TV 😅😅😅
FINALLY BEEN WAITING FOR A VIDEO ON IMMORTAL FOR YEARS
What could the Main Event Mafia 2010 return change about the Immortal and Fortune faction war? And what would also happen to the EV2.0 faction?
I think it would've been harder to bury the MEM as opposed to what we actually got there's no way Kurt sting Nash and whoever else would agree to constantly lose every match
@@ahmadceasar5484 True. And who would've tried to join the Main Event Mafia outside of Krimzon, Samoa Joe and possibly Amazing Red?
@@ricardonb6375 matt Morgan would've been a great young gun same with Magnus it's just the way the story played out was stupid flair literally turned on fortune because they turned on two people he's hated his whole career
@@ricardonb6375 amazing red as mem secret weapon would have been fire
At least it would give them someone to fight other than Matt boring
New Challenger for the How Bad Can It Be Belt.
Raw, 4-3-23.
I started watching TNA right at the point where Immortal started. I kinda knew it was bad, but the product was different enough from WWE that I kept watching despite it being bad. I watched every week and still forgot Kurt Angle was in this group. What a waste of time.
haha my favorite part is 4:47 when Hawk Hogan's getting a boot to the face and his sunglasses stay on the entire time
The stories made no sense but I guess with Hogan and hardy off TV there was no real main eventer... And of course if the plan was to bring back the mafia surely they should of signed Nash and booker t before building that up
I remember this group but I entirely forgot they were around 10/10/10 to 4/15/12.
Boy Watching this Whole Year and a Half long storyline took a lot out of me… And the company to the point where they’re still on a Budget today! The writing and Booking really killed this company and it wasn’t a bad company back when I first caught wind of it back in 2007! Wow 2007-2012. I never went back since!
Love these old school TNA videos
These were the final years of me chasing TNA, I'd watched since it was WWA, then NWA-TNA. Our cable network had long ceased airing it. We had to download it and as interest dropped, it got harder to find IMPACT! & PPV's. The long-ass rants, swerves, double serves, and factions playing fans as fools, became a weekly disappointment / frustration !!
Immortal was a good concept but it became a nwo rip off like why did Scott Steiner join when he returned to fight them why did flair turn on fortune even tho he's hated Hogan and Eric for years
A praise to the production. While I realize the financial pressures to not have underbed music that is popular and subject to cranking you for money, this is so much better than the overly used violin or whatever repetitive stringed instrument.
Keep exploring new underbed music ideas.
Do you think you'll do a fortune video next or one about other tna factions
I will forget that moment where abyss attack RVD that traumatize me as a kid
Really enjoyed this. Thanks!
8:32 ouch! How the hell can you botch the Styles Clash??
all this was still way better than anything else we see nowadays. i also loved the aces and eights stuff.
Ahh..listening to this guy talk gives Me a mild sense of nostalgia. In high school I had a history teacher that would make a select few laugh out balls off and of course it was a situation where we couldn't be laughing so it made it even worse...but annnyways.. He also would pronounce "months" like "MUMPS"
so that brings back memories
A Hulk Hogan story with a thumbnail saying to suspend disbelief. How apt!
This is a great channel. ❤
Some good thigs came out of it. Great Lethal Lockdown match between Immortals and Fortune, Bully Ray and Steiner… Bully Ray feud against AJ Styles with great Last Man Standing match on Slammiversary, Bully Ray feud with abyss with underrated match on Genesys… so pretty much everything related to Bully Ray was a good… which is probably because of Bully Ray not Immortals.
3:58 A WILD SLAPNUTS APPEARS!
8:35 oops 😬 that must've hurt *to say the least*
I hate to put you through more torture but do a fortune review I remember them being pretty damn good
12:30 look at the reaction of Jeff Jarrett to Welsh Roider😂😂😂
Yo I remember that rvd and abyss backstage attack
Canada didn't get reaction too😢
Jarrett should have been a face trying to take back control of his company, needing Angle’s help.
You truly put some great content and background out. I think many watch these not simply because of that fact. Yet, we all wish there was a valid competitor to wwe. Let’s be honest AEW is looking like a TNA with a heavier purse yet same bad booking
The only difference. Their WWE guys at least try to compete, and keep up with next generation. Christian has been carrying the company, Chris Jericho is getting old and putting on gems,Sting for gods sakes, BRYAN FREAKING DANIELSON!!!
Yay hawk bring new content but question of the day is this what u all think wwe been soild 😮
When Hogan joined TNA this was 3 to 5 years after he should have retired at this point hogan was to old and out of shape to do much of anything. Even hogans last 2 years in WWE he was way out of shape to. After his WCW run it was like his heart was not much into wrestling much any more.
That styles clash Fucking hell
Wasnt Abyss already a main eventer before Hogan was trying to make him a main eventer? Has any monster character ever been as badly booked for such a long time as Abyss? Then when he finally gets something awesome in Decay, they never even win the tag belts. I loved Abyss but he was essentially a jobber despite being one of the most loyal guys.
Everyone knows wrestling company ownership is outside the realms of the law and is settled in the ring not with contracts.
Can you do a video on the aces and eights if you haven’t already
One thing came out of this. Jeff Hardy,s inner Demon Again.
I thought you were gonna say his inner monologue
The only good thing about this is heel Jeff Hardy as a character was actually not bad before he was taking too many drugs again.
It was more like a Heel version of WCW millionaires club
My favorite my childhood is double j Jeff Jarrett
MAN LIKE MARKY BACK AGAINNNN with an interesting topic showcased to us
04:46 can someone share the name of the music here? Shazam couldn't find it nor was it credited in the description
Actually Morgan was very over going into the match with Jeff lol
So nah it was Def wanted
Hate revisionist history lol
Even though I do like Hogan and Bischoff, I am of the belief that they killed the TNA that I liked, ever since they were brought in the company was ran into the ground, the change from 6 sides to 4, the terrible booking like Styles and Jeff's heel turns, the ridiculous factions like Immortal and Fortune and the loss of focus on the unique things that made TNA special, the neglect of the TNA originals and finally the culmination of all of that in Victory Road 2011 made me stop watching the show all-together.
Good video shot out to the lapsed fan
I used to watch a wrestling commentary show about this 10 years ago, and 2 years after the fact of these storylines (since I stopped watching after the 1/4/10 episode). Recapping the insanity like they did was great, but it's good to see it come together on screen since they were not doing that kind of thing. Of all things I remember liking the Fortune vs Immortal Lockdown match despite it's strange collection of participants. AJ's return towards the end is worth seeing. Of course this must also be the timeframe of Anderson's "WHERE'S MY REMATCH?" song remix? 😂😂
My biggest question is how tf Kurt joining Immortal can be explained away while he is side by side with Jarrett. Them walking out together at 22:45 is an odd sight
It feels every time it could’ve gone right goes immediately wrong 😅
That styles clash at like 8:30 😢
I have a DVD of his faction it’s called TNA Immortal Forever?
Hahahaha
What's the same of the background song used in this video timestamp: 1:43
Man anybody else miss those super dramatic secret camera close ups
Top video marky
I don't like many of the storyline things but I will say in some states if someone can prove you said something like a TV show it technically is legally binding as a verbal contract
3:39 anyone else noticed that Dixie signed from right to left??😂😂😂 That was 1 of 2 things. They used a flipped camera view function or she really signed from right to left😂😂
It’s obviously the uploader flipping the video to prevent copyright .
I know there were problems here but I was really into TNA during this period.
CTE made me forget about this angle .... or alcohol did....
How is rehab going? Have you visited the Victorville film archives yet? I'm assuming a VHS based rehab would have a field trip to the largest collection of VHS tapes in the US. Good luck Bryan!
I don’t think 98 Stone Cold could manage a team with Aries, Kennedy and AJ let alone Bischoff’s son.
Cold bloodied Matt Hardy is equivalent to normal Matt Hardy with dreadlocks and using a submission finisher
I remember this was the era of TNA that Spoony was reviewing. It may have driven him mad.