The "Safest" driver in San Francisco
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00:00 - Intro
01:59 - PIA
03:19 - "Safety" in San Francisco
08:09 - Cha-Cha Real Smooth
11:11 - The Bad Stuff / Disengagements
12:41 - Summary - Věda a technologie
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I can't sign in even thought I am making a username and password so whats the problem with the app?
Nice work on the video
You have the best FSD videos….for 3 reasons: 1. Calm relaxing talk. 2. Best visuals and angle. 3. Great reasoning and stats.
Agree completely
Agreed!
Nailed it!
Don't forget his patience to let the car have as much time as possible before taking over. So many presenters take over too soon, so the car doesn't get a chance to dig itself out of the hole it got itself into.
4. Doesn't try to run over his kids to prove a point
As an experienced human driver, some of these situations on San Francisco streets would confuse me too. It's really getting very impressive.
"Experienced HUMAN driver"
As a human born and raised out in the sticks, I would not have any hope of being able to navigate city streets at all.
@@user2C47 As a pothole I'm waiting for you to try.
As a human, I love participating in human activities as listed:
- Driving cars
- Drinking water
- Browsing the CZcams
Growing up in a suburb 20 minutes away from the city, there were many people who in high school would refuse to drive to San Francisco. Being one of the few people in my friend group who wasn’t afraid to drive in the city at all meant I was almost always driving when we went to the city. But driving in rush hour traffic on so many streets can be difficult. Kearny, Bush, Montgomery, Stockton, Broadway, Geary and Van Ness are always jammed, or at least they were before the pandemic
Driving in San Francisco is hard. So many blind spots. Having your car be able to spot for you with sensors several feet more forward than you could possibly see is so valuable.
The side-facing cameras are in the middle of the car, about a foot _behind_ the driver's seat.
@@user2C47 Drives me nuts they didnb't put another set of cams on the front. Incredibly short-sighted, no pun intended.
Great content! The overlay, the commentary, the FF sequences are some of the best in the FSD community!
Thank you so much Matthew!
Agree !
Christ the impatience of people... and the dangerous driving!
People gotta be more carefull and patient.
It seems like a great update overall.
Nothing says California like laying on the horn because someone took 3 seconds to speed up. 😅
I’m sure if you asked that dangerous turd who drove around him if they think of themselves as an above average driver, they’d put themselves in the yes category…. They all do.
@@justinc9153 LOL. 100%
Rush hour is crazy.
@@VoxelLoop 3 seconds is a lot dude. Greetings from eastern Europe.
4:54 I think this is the usual high caution setting they do with major (and even not so major revisions). I think they tend to set caution high, gather data, and lower the caution setting with the next point release, or maybe they can change that parameter over the air without a software update. Honestly though, that predictive ability on the cyclist is impressive. I don't think I would even have noticed them. As far as sudden hard braking causing problems for cars behind you, it's planner almost certainly takes that into account. I've yet to see an FSD beta video where the car brake with a following car close behind. _Theory:_ that may even be one of the big factors that determines how smoothly it deals with these kinds of situations -- if no one is behind you to rear-end you, then it is more likely to brake hard and over-cautiously, but if someone is close behind it factors that in and does a more smooth cautious slowdown. Might be an interesting thing for you to pay attention to and see if it bears out. But also question: _For you, has FSD ever hit the brakes too hard/overcautiously while another car was actually following too close behind?_ [edit: and then at 6:25 you say precisely this... although... were you _really_ almost rear ended there? Doesn't seem like your or the car behind were going fast enough for that braking to be excessively risky. Annoying, yes, and a bit more risky than necessary, but not excessively risky]
9:30 The car was signalling a turn, so I think FSD stopped anticipating the oncoming car might turn in front of you, rather than thinking there's not enough space.
This is a Blinker????
it looks like a dead LED to me...
Exactly what I was thinking.
That's the same thing I thought. "Hey I'm not speed up yet, let this guy turn"
@@PhotoHoag YES!
Thank you for your time. I appreciate you letting us all have an insight on how the FSD beta is going. Wish I owned a Tesla and was contributing to the FSD beta.
its incredible how big of an update this is. also, i love watching your videos and i appreciate your content, and your nice voice over. you keep it interesting and have a calm tone which just makes these videos great to watch. i do like the way you explained things throughout the video, it felt really clean and easy to understand. much love
9:42 Interesting. I hadn't noticed before that the visulization, even though it's 3D, it doesn't account for slopes -- it flattens the road into a level plane.
SF road and traffic is insane I'm glad to see how the lastest auto pilot can handle it to this level. There are lots of room for improvement but at least we are making progress. Personally I do notice handling of acceleration and intersection is way smoother after this update
I can totally relate to the "human condition" as a major hurdle towards being comfortable in a self driving car.
I don't have a self driving vehicle myself, but even driving something with radar cruise control is enough to realize how impatient people can get, how complex driving is and the risks we consider acceptable during the every day commute.
Radar cruise control typically maintains a larger following distance than most drivers. It doesn't take long for others to want to tailgate or cut you off, even though all you are doing is maintaining a safe distance in traffic.
I think if there was a away to make it readily apparent to other motorists that a vehicle is operating in an autonomous mode, maybe people would have more patience. Much like I would hope most drivers have more patience with students learning to drive.
I've been saying for a long time that we need to have a new type of indicator for self-driving cars.
Yep, you are the Rob Maurer of FSD videos. Calm, well thought out commentary while still entertaining. Thx for the great vids and innovative presentation.
I'm very hopeful that full FSD will be solved very soon. It is certainly driving better than I've ever seen it do over the last 4 or so years that I've been watching FSD on CZcams. Here in UK (and Europe wide) we're still anxiously awaiting roll out. So it was interesting to see a reference to Europe in the build. Future looks bright.
Always nice to start a working day by listening to your commentary and watching a new version of FSD beta drive itself. Your clips are very appreciated!
Also, would you consider doing the "stop/brake test" that you did with your wife, for all "major" releases such as this? I know it would probably take some time and effort, but would be interesting!
Best
Fantastic video! I totally agree with your point about too safe being unsafe. I've noticed for a few versions now the car seems to have the wrong indicator on in a lot of situations, which can sometimes be dangerous/unpredictable. Maybe that's something Tesla should work on sooner than later?
Many, many thanks AIDRVR for this wonderful video. Glad to see the improvements in the latest FSD version. Good job. :)
I like the extra effort you put into the editing of these videos. I wonder if the more manic switching between lanes is one of the first implementations of the language of lanes concept? If i understand correctly, it would cause the car to select a lane as opposed to splitting between them. I'm not sure the exact timeline though, it may have already been implemented.
It's been doing that for a while. Definitely something that needs to be ironed out. It really degrades how competent passengers think the car is
Maybe it saw how the lead cars n front took the turn.
Honestly love watching these vids from time to time to get an update on the self driving features. Definitely a dream car for me in the future along side the six speed manual infiniti 37x
Thank you! I'm living out my dream of a Model S + Miata RF manual :]
@@AIDRIVR Sounds like the life man! Keep up the vids I love watching them.
Keep up the great work! I really love the commentary and quality of your videos!
4:22 That clip really impressed me by just how confident FSD was that it needed to stop, but also because the amount of time it waited to make sure he wasn't going felt natural as well. Really nice real world test
It honestly feels like it drives like I was taught to: assume everyone else on the road is an idiot who doesn't know the law and you'll be safe as houses. I don't mind it at all!
Doesn’t look very confident to me….
Such a well produced video
Great video. I love the recording setup and video editing. Really concise and informative.
Great video! These are super entertaining. The work you put into these videos does not go unnoticed :D
Love these videos, thank you for posting! Your videos will be cool to look back on in 5-10 years as we get closer and closer to the point where we literally will be able to sit in the back seat while the car drives.
Brilliant update! It's really nice with these curated clips and themes! Really gives a good impression on how FSD is progressing
Great video and I'll add my feedback
1:32 FSD improperly calculates that it can overtake the bus as it is showing the blue box and the bus is about the same size as the box. Seems like many things are failing here. FSD wants to overtake, but can't as the bus is crossing the lane line causing FSD to slow down, then FSD is now in a short deadline turn situation. Neural planner should have used the space behind the bus to merge.
4:25 Great example of the new VRU kinematic update. While a bit overcautious, ped was walking into the crosswalk before realizing it wasn't their turn. Then FSD kinematics notice the ped has stopped and starts to make its turn.
4:41 And an example of where the VRU kinematics can be way overly cautious.
4:55 And another. This will get much better as both of these VRUs had high crossing velocity.
5:38 FSD neural planner should have planned a path to the right lane. Data engine needs to classify the vehicle correctly as "stopped_not_waiting_for_traffic" so that the neural planner can immediately plan a path around the vehicle. Also, data engine can assume the VRU is with the stopped vehicle as the back door is opened by the VRU.
6:50 Lanes net really needs to improve to ensure that FSD is in the correct lane for short deadline "ONLY" marked lanes
7:59 Lanes net issue again as it doesn't classify the right most lane as a full lane AND doesn't classify both lanes from the lane markings
9:33 Neural planner issue, notice the blue line curves close to the oncoming car. The planned path does not give FSD enough room spatially with the current planned path.
11:20 Lanes net issue as it doesn't seem to know in advance that both lanes are right turn ONLY.
11:36 Lanes net issue where it incorrectly sees a double yellow
11:57 Data engine issue where it does not classify the car soon enough that it is in the process of backing up to park.
12:15 Lanes net issue as it should have classified that lane as not an option for the neural planner
12:34 Lane connectivity graph (also lanes net) as it should know this intersection is controlled by a traffic light.
Thanks for this video, very informative. I appreciate your non-biased take on the drive. I'm super excited to get the next release.
I appreciate your observations. Strong opinions about self-driving are common but often bereft of real experience or understanding. Content guided not only by clear integrity, but by rationality and genuine curiosity, is refreshing.
Great reporting, thank you! Exciting times!
1:36
for some reason i found it adorable how the lil tesla wanted to argue with the scary bus
Oh man, your videos are so good! Love the commentary! Great job! 💯
I look forward to each and every one of your videos, they are great and I love your comments and edits to show how the drive is going. Keep up the great work.
Thank you so much Mavin! Really appreciate it :]
Your analysis and comment along with the recorded video is absolutely helpful for every viewers to know more about FSD.
Wow. Thank you. Impressive! I always really appreciate your short-formatted reviews. 👍 💯
Hoping you’ll post some before and after shots of complicated intersections or streets.. say, the same windy street filmed a year ago versus today. Those side by side will help viewers better understand the improvements
Excellent commentary, you provide context that I just wouldn't get by watching the video alone.
Your videos make me appreciate the engineering complexity of fully autonomous vehicles. I live in a big city with little pedestrian traffic, big roads, and no parallel parking so it's easy to forget just how many edge cases must be accounted for with a high degree of confidence.
thanks a lot! very good format and very enjoyable and informative!
Superb recording and commentary. I always look forward to watching your next upload. Looks like you may pass Chris at Dirty Tesla... you're both awesome at this, but your added visuals (e.g., arrows pointing things out) create a very polished look. Based on all the comments, it would seem I'm not alone! Continued success!
Challenge accepted
Another great production. Your views always seem well balanced and fair and give us a really good feel for how things are progressing. The future is looking pretty good for FSD. Maybe it'll come to the UK eventually :)
Thank you so much! :]
Love your opinions AiDriver. I disengage too often because I don’t like to be in tricky situations, or use the non-regen braking.
This is a great breakdown.. i'll be back for more.. thanks for all the work and narration.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave a comment! Appreciate it :]
Really enjoyed the ride, your explanations and your video! I can’t wait to see what comes of FSD in the future! Great work!
Thank you Brandon, appreciate it :]
One of the best produced FSD beta videos with nice visualisations and great commentary. Well done sir👏🎉
Thanks for the kind words Klas, appreciate it :]
Awesome video. Your commentary is spot on and very helpful. And man, I wish I could edit like you! Keep it up and I’ll keep watching!!
Also I cannot WAIT for 10.69.3.x
Appreciate it! :]
Was very impressed at 10:50 where you show the difference in behavior for the same exact spot - it's exactly like a (lazy, like me lol) human driver would drive: if there's nobody there, you can cut across lanes in a turn, who cares, its smoother and requires less steering - but if there is a car in the lane, you behave more properly and make a larger turn without cutting.
Thanks for the update. Exciting!
Especially this video is so well shot and commented both formally and content-wise, that it really stands out!
Thanks Karl, appreciate it :]
Awesome video on 69.3. I can't wait until I get on 69.3.# myself. I'm also kind of hoping it brings some improvements to my normal AP on back roads to 😅
The way you capture "3rd person" view while blending in the visualization is by far my favorite thing. Also really enjoy your commentary and take on the different situations.
Didn't notice blocked visualizations until you mentioned it :) Thanks for the great video, really loved it
Glad to hear! Thank you for the kind words, glad you enjoyed it :]
Great job on the video, I have been trying out FSD on 19th Ave through San Francisco with a lot of traffic, does a good job but it takes me a couple disengagements to make it from one side of the city to the other, also I’m thinking you can have a scoring system for each version of beta with top score of level 5 driving when the car can drive itself
it still drives like a student driver, but with quite many lessons under its belt.
Dude your video quality has taken a major step up. Nice
Appreciate it :]
I love that people are still giving the little hand gesture wave even though nobody has their hands on the wheel!
Very good analysis, keep up the great work
Best FSD chanel, wish you put out content more frequently 😀
You’re my favorite autonomous-driving reporter. Such great information. Thank you!
Thanks Jason, that means a lot! I know there's a lot of great channels out there. Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave a comment :]
Excellent video style and commentary, many thanks.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave a comment! Appreciate it :]
Great commentary. Thx for doing this
Your set up is the best out there for showing FSD. Thanks so much for sharing.
Thank you so much for the kind words, Duncan! And thanks for sharing on Twitter :]
i love how at 5:35 you can see exactly why and who was honking with the vehicle detection
I highly appreciated the unrelated Alcatraz view. Ty sir 🙏
6:28 This stretch of Stockton between Broadway and Sutter is one of the most difficult roads in the country to drive on in rush hour. I think it did pretty well with that turn. It took me years to be able to drive that stretch confidently. All the thousands of pedestrians, multitude of cars trying to park, trucks unloading and tons of busses.
Great testing and analysis as always.
I feel these are quite hard streets to drive on
My favourite set up for FSD. Incredible points of view an excellent commentary.
Thank you for the kind words Dan! :]
I love your videos, but there's a few things that caught my eye that most probably did not catch at first glance. First of all, that steering wheel is not a Tesla manufactured steering wheel; but rather the one designed by MobileDie in conjunction with Tesla manufactured equipment. Take notice that you can see the original manufacture design, whilst seeing clear fabrication to the top and bottom. This is to help ensure that the circumference of the square root of the apex meets the same engineering standard as originally designed.
You'll notice, as well, that this update allows the vehicle to see further using only camera's, but it is also able to see through solid material as well. This is due to the elaborate use of realtime satellite imaging from the Tesla network which allows for the seemless transition of both the music playlist and your favorite CZcams channel (AI DRIVR of course).
You'll also notice that the camera's assist with the elimination of phantom braking around bicyclists by capturing the smile of a small child, similar to the midnight moon. This is all made possible by the frequency of a doorknob passing through the light of an appendix. Though there's a lot of rice on the escalator, I think we can all agree that the power of a sock on a horseshoe will never reach the capacity of a nail screwed into an ironing board.
I'd pin this if I could
1:22 Those signs are used worldwide not just in Europe. The US is the big exception.
I'm all ears here, your assessment is much better than mine. (I wouldn't have noticed the slight obstruction lower center screen had not been mentioned)
That's good to hear! I figured people would accuse me of driving the car myself since they couldn't see the Autopilot icon lol
@@AIDRIVR Only dim children would make such an accusation IMO.
General comment on caution vs assertiveness: two major reasons for excessive caution are (1) it doesn't yet understand everything it sees with high enough confidence: if there is uncertainty about the speed of a crossing pedestrian, the position of a car, or the presence of an object, it has to act according to the worst-case scenario within the range of possibilities. (2) Tesla is going to keep the caution level high to absolutely minimize the chance of a serious accident in the beta program. As further improvements to the AI decrease perception uncertainty they can afford a narrower margin of error, and it can be more assertive in the kinds of situations a human would, while also being much safer.
By *****FAR***** the best FSD videos. Thank you.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave a comment! Appreciate it :]
watching these videos every now and then is just awesome to see the progress FSD is making - its like a baby taking its first steps in a single room to full on becoming a toddler walking and traversing entire buildings - indeed, it will be awesome to see the adult years of FSD and what it truly can become!
Thank you for such great narration over the whole drive.
Got a question: how good is it during night time? Can you upload some videos testi g at night time? It would be great to watch.
Well, the editing really is next level!
Thank you, appreciate it :] it's been a big learning curve but I'm starting to get the hang of it!
@@AIDRIVR Just make sure to not forget about the 80:20 rule. 80% of the effort is done in 20% of the time. The last 20% take 80% of the time. Find the right middle ground and don't overdo it or you'll lose interest quickly as it's just too much work editing. I've seen way to many CZcamsrs quitting because of this... :)
Great video! This looks soooooo good! :D Can't wait until they releases it in Norway/Europe. One question; did you have to go in for a service to change some of your cameras to get the FSD Beta on the Model S?
All my cameras are the originals that came on the car, the only thing I had to get replaced was the FSD computer behind the glove box which took mobile service about 30 minutes
@@AIDRIVR Aha. Thanks for the quick reply, and keep up the good work! 😀
Nice video!
The FSD seems to be a pretty well on the way.
Relese at the end of the next year?
100% agree with your comments. I’ve had the opportunity to drive with beta for several days now and relate to everything you are saying.
Thank you for the quality video again! :)
My pleasure, thank you so much Balazs! :]
so now the car is TOO kind hahaha. Amazing vid keep it up!
Top quality content as usual! Also thumbs up for 69% battery thumbnail 👌
The constant ongoing calm commentary describing the look and feel of FSD ist what makes your videos good. The commentary has some kind ongoing rhythm like a metronome which makes it not to say monotone but is sort of consistent and predictable, I like that quite a bit.
Thank you very much! I focus a lot on the flow of the video, this one was redone multiple times until it "felt" right so comments like these make me super happy!
@@AIDRIVR Thank you for your effort! ❤
Great video and narration as always. Is that a new S/X that I saw with Yoke in your video? Did you see any difference in FSD behavior in the new car? I am assuming that it does not have HW4 yet?
Old S (2018 S75D) with an aftermarket Yoke, will be making a video about it in a few weeks :]
I like everything about your videos. SF driving is something I gave up 10 years ago. I'm sure other drivers would thank me.
I've enjoyed watching the the progress / advances in FSD; especially on SF streets ~
I still hate driving there. Always a risk of an accident. Also can't park anywhere without coming back to destroyed bumpers or broken windows
3:33 is nothing short of amazing. Great video editing and comment, for me actually the best FSD tester out there and I watch a lot of them
Thank you Julian, that means a lot. I know there's a lot of great FSD channels out there
@@AIDRIVR yes true, but your videos always stick out most in terms of editing, camera, commentary etc. Keep up the good work. Much love from Germany!
Great video! Super engaging and interesting
Tenth of a mile 😂 You gotta love the imperial system
great stuff AI DRIVR
The main issue I'm having with FSD is braking for no reason a lot or overly braking if someone is tuning further up the road. It's too cautious which I feel also makes it dangerous.
Thanks for providing very informative summary of FSD beta performance. I really like your take on how it is performing.
This is SAN FRANCISCO! Full Self Driving of this type would have ZERO problems with almost 99% of the other roads in the US...
Thanks a lot for the video!
You are very welcome!
The progress in last 12 months is astounding.
To me, your opinions are spot on. Keep these coming.
The best FSD vids by far!
Allways love to watch the newest and then right after a versy old version of FSD.
doing so its impressive how well it does nowadays 💪🏻
When it is stopped @9:30 because 'it doesn't think there is enough room to proceed", I believe it stopped because the oncoming car had its left H.T. blinker on and wanted to make sure it came to a complete stop before proceeding.
Excellent summary. Your opinions are well framed and reliable. Keep ‘em coming. THANKS for the high quality and value you’re contributing to the Tesla community.
Great video as usual thanks for your efforts. FSD’s biggest problem is dealing with terrible human behaviour - but it really seems to be getting there. Cheers again from downunder 🇦🇺
Nice video! Have you considered putting up the power meter on one side of your dash when recording videos to provide some perspective on the car's acceleration & deceleration? Getting it back is the first thing I do every time I activate FSD Beta & the car hides my apps on each side of the dash. I like the full screen view in FSD Beta because even after bringing back the power meter I can still see vehicles, etc in the background
Good idea, I will try this!