AVOID DISASTER! Remote vs Canister Top Camping Gas stove. Fire Maple Polaris.
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
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Fire maple Polaris remote vs Fire Maple Polaris canister top!
Tips in this video for you to help decide which is best for you.
You can buy the stoves here for which I will get a small commission at no cost to you, thanks!
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1:15 Features of the stove
6:13 Stability
7:43 Boil time
8:07 Safety and risks
10:23 Coffee time!
12:40 More risks and mistakes I have made
13:59 Simmer
15:37 Wind test
17:38 Summary
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I've been looking for remote stove recommendations, very useful. I will definitely add the Polaris to my list! Thanks David.
Glad to help
You comment that pressure regulated stoves are the future I found interesting. The MSR Windpro 2 with canister inverted seems to offer the benefits of a pressure regulator for low fuel pressure. I confess to have never used a presure regulated stove. As I avoid 20*F for outdoor cooking I suppose this subject is mainly academic rather than practical in my case. Enjoying your videos. Thank you Dave
Thank you my friend and I appreciate your comment. ATB Dave
Hi and just found your channel so will sub been watching tunnel tent comparison,
As for the cookers, I love my Soto, it is higher but so much better knowing your hose is not going to fail,
So remote is better in a vestibule but I will stick to canister top stoves
Cheers
Adrian
Thanks Adrian, I will have a look at your channel too.
Informative video. I think it largely comes down to a choice between the lightness and simplicity of a canister top stove or the superior stabilty of a remote stove. My stove of choice by far is the Soto Windmaster. Very simple and well designed and no need for a wind shield even in quite strong breezes. In the summer and for lightnest I sometimes use a titanium meths burner with a light weight wind shield. Thanks for the video, ATB, Graham 👍
Hey Graham, great to hear from you, aye, as you say, personal choice. Have a look at the upcoming soto vs fire maple. Might sway you!
@@Fellmandave1 I’ll look forward to it 👍
Great video Dave , I use the jetboil mini mo which is great inside the vestibule and the MSR deluxe with the low down adapter that makes it super safe 👍
Oh yes, I forget about the low down adapter, they look like a brilliant idea.
I have the deluxe as well. Love my MSR gear and like the idea of the lowdown. I’m not an ultralighter by any means, but the weight of it, plus the weight of the deluxe stove to attach to it is a bit off putting. Especially when you compare to the fire maple on test here the remote adapter is nearly as much in weight and cost as the Polaris stove on its own. Lots of food for thought here thanks again Dave.
@@Four_Furry_Paws nowts the bother!
Tunnocks cara, subbed 😂
Cheers!
Just treated myself to a Crud x Trangia 100th year anniversary special edition.had a Trangia in my youth many fond memories along with my old canvas 2 person tent.but it sadly disappeared,my brother probably snaffled it.👍
Nice one John. One of my videos soon will feature my Dad's primus that I have had for 45 years.
Very informative. Thank you. I do think you’re a bit light on the tunnocks wafers though, could definitely be an issue. 😉
What is the recommended and maximum safe dose Sean? 🤔
@@Fellmandave1 🤔 Well, it’s very subjective but I think you’d want at least a couple in your pack. 1 is just going to be lonely. 😉
I must admit that I prefer the greater stability of a remote canister stove.
At present, my stove of choice is the Primus Gravity iii. It can handle quite a decent sized pot, and the burner can go down to a gentle simmer.
Good choice!
@@Fellmandave1
Or as an "old school" alternative, I've got an Optimus 8R. It's not as powerful as some modern stoves, but solidly built and very reliable.
one pot cook system for me with titanium canister top burner & msr cannister support 👍 little tip water boils slightly quicker without lid on 😉do i detect a slight geordie accent? just subbed👍
Hey mate
From North Staffordshire originally but have lived and worked in Newcastle/Whitley Bay for 30 years. Thanks for the sub!
I've destroyed 2 Fire Maple remote canister stoves by using a large pot and windshield, and having the hose melt and release from the stove end. One was a titanium similar to the blade 2, the other was similar without the regenerator.
Don't know how to get spares.
Have you tried fire maple directly? I have seen hoses and spare parts on aliexpress. I have also sent a direct enquiry. Do you feel this is a weakness of the stove itself? Not a problem I have had, do you think the hose got in the flame?
@@Fellmandave1 I can't find contact information for support at fire maple. I tried leaving a review on the blade 2, but nothing came of it.
I suspect all of these remote canister stoves use a similar hose, namely a rubber hose with a brass barb end, and brass cap crimp.
If the hose gets too hot the rubber melts and the barb fitting can pull out or leak.
Or possibly the rubber O ring at the generator fails and starts leaking gas, and once that ignites the hose is damaged. I don't know whether there's an issue with with the O-ring or hose materials, or the design doesn't allow them to stay sufficiently cool, or I was running them too hot for too long with too large a pan and too much wind screen.
My hunch is the design needs more heat shielding to allow the hose end to stay cool.
It's a pity because I like the stoves themselves. As you say, they're stable, support a big pot and are easily shielded from the wind. Very nice features.
If I get a new hose I'll try dashing a tiny heat reflector and just plop it on top of the hose end.
Right Natty. I have had a response from fire maple. They say that they usually have hoses in stock on aliexpress but they are out. If you send delivery information to me, I will forward it and they will send you a new blade 2. fellmandave@gmail.com
Thanks for the video. I was drawn to the "self contained" nature of a canister with stove in pot and so got a tiny stove, BUT the canister is so robust it doesn't need protecting, anything like as much as my teabags, porridge, etc. The remote stove only adds 37g by the time you factor the canister stabiliser.
Does a pressure regulator help when you have a pre-heat tube on an inverted canister. The pressure is less variable when it's inverted so liquid to the stove?
You know, I don't know, they only seem to do one or the other. The soto stormbreaker that I am testing seems to have both. testing to come for that in the winter.
Thanks for you comment.
I prefer a remote stove when cooking in the vestibule it somehow feels safer
Further away from the tent fabric too. I can only agree. Thanks for commenting.
for the wind test, perhaps both stove should be placed on the same height level to be fair
Hi Cornelius, I had the wind at the same level though eh? Thanks for watching.
You boiled the water for over 3 min' of course. I've noticed gas burners now don't seem have gas warmer tubes?
Ho Marty, have a look at my VERY LONG remote canister test. Pre heat tubes are around, but the pressure regulator negates the need it seems.
I did wonder about the pressure reg. So how does it pre heat the gas/ liquid. Cheers for that