Backpacking Stoves I Wish I Tried Sooner!
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The xboil is the best.
It's lightweight, is a pot stand, Extremely durable, its not expensive for what you get and it runs on liquid fuels or esbit or gel or Cooking oil (Pretty much anything except for gas.) 👍
Did I mention it doesn't even have to prime? 🤔
Those alcohol bricks would work perfectly with an old fashioned solid fuel folding army stove. That would solve your tipping problem for a cost of about $10 and weight of 4oz.
What about those Gorillas in the corners of the room???
(Altitude and Temperature) they should be addressed at least in the total point counts…
@@hope2someday691He did mention cold weather performance some, but not altitude.
Temps below 32F (sea level) start to effect alcohol, by 20F they’re dead. The best canister stove will make it to about 11F. Adding altitude will also effect performance.
a tip on solid fuel stoves - pop ino just about any home depot or lowes and check out their grill section. you will almost always be able to find the weber charcoal lighter cubes, which are the same solid fuel. you can get a 24 pack for about $6
You’re living in the future
That's so cool!
Love Hacks Like yours!!!
I specialize in them. after about twenty years...
A consortium or website where everybody shares their cheap hacks
Are they absorb people stomach just compressed like a military tablet, hexane or trioxane?
IE they are not a liquid absorbent stone?
The ones in individual packets? UK here so just checking I'm looking at the right ones....and thanks for the tip either way 👍
I am an ex Overland Expeditions Leader for trans Africa wild camping journeys and others in different countries, you mentioned that with an open flame, you get a black sooty cover on the outside of your pots while cooking. I have done this for years and the trick is to smear washing up liquid (or similar washing soap you will carry anyway) quickly over all of the outside of the pots before putting them over the flame. You can use this for ages and still easily wipe off the blackness when cool with a bit of water instead of scrubbing them clean. It is very easy to do and I am always surprised that it is not widely known about on outdoor videos. Try it and see what I mean.
Girl Guides have been doing this for ever- we call it “soft soap”. Before liquid soap was widely available, we used to grate bars of soap and put them in a container with some water.
It works a treat.
I'll just stick with the gas stove. I like being able to just push a button and get cooking. Especially when u wake up sore & it's freezing. The sooner u can get hot coffee & food in your stomach the better.
But if you insist on being some kind of elitist outdoors hipster who only uses solid fuel, more power to you.
@@Peyote1312this is not just handy and good to know for backpacking, but for cooking at a campsite or grilling at home with wood chips or even in your fireplace when there is a power outage. But you’re young and ignorant as evidenced by your snippy attitude and hopefully will out grow this or at least learn to keep your revealing opinions to yourself.
@@Peyote1312 I got good at making a quick morale-booster warm-up fire first thing, and dance in the flames, warm up my baseball cap and slap it on my head, then I boil my water for my tea once I've warmed up. But I don't camp above the tree line.
Based entirely on this review, I bought the pizza-stone stove, and have been absolutely loving it. There's a version with larger stones, in a small paint can, that holds enough fuel for a week on the trail and weighs next to nothing. I'm really happy with it, and the guy on Etsy who sells them is excellent about responding to questions and giving advice. Thanks so much for the tip!
Can you please tell me the name of the guy on Etsy? I can't seem to locate this product at all on it. Thanks!
Link?
@@erickacevedo7346 There's a link to the pill-bottle stove in this video's description. Click that, then the seller's name, and you'll find it among his other products. I've now been using it four months, and it's been great.
Or use a masonry hole saw and cut your own pizza stone disks. If Etsy guy can DIY them, you can too. Quit being a consumer and make something!
Can't I use sandstone rocks?
It is worth mentioning that during fire restrictions in the U.S. National Forests, parks, and grasslands, you have to be able to use a switch or valve to turn off the fire or it could mean a hefty fine. Always scrape away the duff and other flammable material so that you are turning above mineral soil.
Was literally scrolling through the comments looking for this exact reply. Most of these would not fly during a burn ban. Now granted if you live and camp up north, you might not have that issue as often. But in Texas and many other south or west states, they are common and unfortunately chronic problems. *edit* just finished the video and saw he said this. Lol
The last minute of the video is all about this. It's like y'all didn't even watch it.
Thanks for this comment! Since a lot of us already have an investment in a stove and accessories, viewers may not watch the video to the end.
Funny a white gas stove with a valve would be considered more safe with potential for spills/leaks leading to uncontrolled fire much easier than one of these disks getting out of control. But hey it technically has a valve on the stove!
Was going to comment about that as well, I think that "fire safety" should have been one of the ranking catergories
In the Army, I carried an Esbit stove everywhere; it was always good for a hot beverage or to heat up a soup or (pre heat tab) MRE. Then I figured out that I could accomplish the same thing without the stove, just using a rock to contain the flames from the heat tab, and a couple of slightly thicker rocks or sticks to support my canteen cup. I’ve used this technique for backpacking ever since, supplemented by actual campfire cooking occasionally, but I’m intrigued by the pill bottle stove.
I used the esbit in the army and the best way to burn it is to scrape a thin 2inch groove in the sand. 4 inch deep. The sides hold the canteen.
I wonder how porous soapstone is and if its able to soak up alcohol or fuel. It's supposed to be the one stone that can hold onto heat the longest.
Yeah, I like Esbit fuel tabs too, my thoughts on them are that they’re a little expensive and produce trash that I then have to carry out of the woods, they smell when burning, and but they do work in ANY condition. I really like that, as where I live it’s either bone chilling cold or soaking wet. Sunny crisp days are very rare. 😂
Don't you mean you got a rock or something to contain the flames?
@@MafistoOU812 depends on the terrain. I was in the caprivi strip in Namibia and there are no stones. Just sand.
Your delivery is very good. Quick but not too fast, hitting all the main points, no fillers or other useless things. Thank you for making this.
No two minute intro either.
Have you noticed every single video review they sniffle? Like everyone has a runny nose.
The pizza-stone stove could be improved in terms of performance and safety by punching some air holes in an empty food can and putting the pizza stones in the can, so the can could act as a windscreen and a stand for your mug.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
At that point is it any different that a Starlyte or Kojin stove, just with stone instead of fluffy fiberglass as the wick material?
I will say that it was nice that it didn't spill like a alcohol stove would and spread fire
@@LeifWarner : Well, stone won't melt at combustion temperatures like fiberglass can.
@@deusexaethera Fiberglass doesn't melt. They use it as insulation in houses for a reason. Plenty of stoves are stuffed with fiberglass - including my everyday ones. It can soften past 1200 °C, though that's not an issue for wicking material, and your stove's not going to get anywhere near that hot.
One disadvantage of solid fuel stoves that is seldom discussed is that they often burn "dirty" and leave greasy soot all over your pot. It seems like a minor issue but it can become a real pain. Unless you are really really careful when using and packing, the soot will go EVERYWHERE.
Soot is bad... zero soot with Pillbottle stove Tablets charged up with ethyl alcohol.
Agreed but you can make cleaning up afterwards easier by coating with soap and then using a scourer.
@@neotrekkUnfortunately those things don't look like they hold a whole lot of alcohol, and wouldn't burn for terribly long. Good for heating up a cup of water, but not for cooking a meal, since you'd have to constantly stop and wait for them to soak up more alcohol, during which time your food's getting colder. A regular alcohol stove if it runs out you fill just it back up immediately light the fire again with practically no downtime. Plus they're super easy to make, there's a billion videos on how to make them out of cut up soda cans and such. And if you store your alcohol in a squeeze bottle like for ketchup or something, you can use that nozzle to easily fill the stove and unscrew the whole cap to dump unburnt fuel back in for later.
That's why I use the Trangia. No mess with the alcohol.
Try carrying aluminum foil with you. Wrap the pot with foil before cooking. Then the foil gets dirty but not your pot. You can also wrap the inner part of your pot, too. Cuts down on clean up time immensely.
Methinks one important difference between these stoves is whether you can actually cook on them (simmering ability, heat output) or really realistically only boil water (esbit/alcohol stoves), the latter being completely fine for coffee or freeze dried food.
Very true. I don’t do a lot of simmering but I did include it in my assessment.
I love the speed of my brs 3000 but hate hate the jet engine noise. Toaks alcohol burner fits in my BushBuddy mini as a pot stand and wind screen. Twoferone. 4 ounces for the bush buddy twig stove, one ounce for the toaks. Carry the amount of alcohol one needs for the # days on trip but use the BushBuddy when I have time to sit and relax. No fuel shortage issues either. That MSR stuff sure is nice however. Great videos.
I used an alcohol stove (trangia mini) for a long trip across Europe, for which I cooked from scratch most nights. Absolutely no problems once you're used to it, and fuel availability was excellent
@@RobertSmith-up9rz I mostly wasn't in forests, and this was mostly over the less flammable seasons
@@RobertSmith-up9rz oh yeah, and I had it on a flameproof mat
That pill bottle stove has me super intrigued. Would love to see a follow up video comparing this to other alcohol stoves.
in a video we see only a quarter of a cup has been boiled, I believe it was not very good in efficiency after all
Maybe with a fold up windshield/stand to counter the stability issue
@Andy Topley I was thinking the fancy feast stove may also work... the main difference between the stones and other alcohol stoves is that the stones can be quickly blown out. Still not allowed on pct and other places I would imagine.
I would simply fill a screw top tin the similar size with vermiculite.
Lighter and bio degradable and the lid can snuff out the flame.
I can't find the pill stove anywhere 😡
I didn't intend to watch all of this video but your no nonsense and quick talking kept me hooked. Well done. 👍
I’m glad you did. Thanks
I use a "SoloStove"... and after using it I am sure that other handmade/cottage designs would work well. Been using mine for over 10 years now, I spent a winter cooking on it in the Oregon forest aka snow and below freezing for weeks ... I also walked with it for about 1000mi, rough estimate. It's the best by far and if you plan ahead and learn to keep the right wood/materials on hand - you never have to worry at all about it. Pine - Redwood - Cedar - Pitch matches - storm matches - jute twine - pine needles - oak sticks - cardboard... just wrap it in a plastic bag and keep it dry, keep a bic on you (you do anyway already)... you'll never carry a fuel can again. ...clear the ground at least even if you are using a gas stove, I got triggered seeing the start of this video.
I'm still using the Whisperlite stove I bought in 1987. Still reliable and easy to use as it was when I bought it 36 years ago.
But that's not the whole story, is it? You must have replaced the plunger in the pump and o-rings lots of times by now. And I bet it has clogged now and again?
I took one camping to a windy place with blowing gypsum sand and could never get permanently unplugged after that. Your post inspires me to dust it off and try some more. Well, except the Windburner is so easy and trouble-free....
I as well still use my MSR Whisperlite stove bought in the early 1980s. I've replaced a o-ring or two but not many. It has been throughout the US and Canada with me and never failed. In fact, I bought my daughter the interational version a couple of years ago and she now loves them as well. If you get one it will be the last stove you'll ever need.
The dragon fly was my replacement for my whisperlite. Sounds like I’m taking off in a jet but allows me a wide range of cooking options.
YES, whisperlite international FTW... only bad in it is the unflexible hose
I’ve had my Whisperlite International stove for around 25 years and it still goes with me on every camping trip. It’s been a simple rock solid piece of kit for me, love it.
A tip about Esbit, normally as you burn it, it produces less heat as it gets smaller, but normally you need more heat towards the end to get it to boil. Depending on the amount of water and the wind this sometimes produced a fail to boil at the end of the tablet, needing a second tablet if you want it boiled. So I start with the leftover tablet of the last burn (Esbit is easy to blow out), to start heating the water and finish it off with the new tablet to bring it to a boil. The downside is that the Esbit seems to be a bit more odorous when stored after a partial burn, though after a multi-day long distance hike there are other odors to cover that.
They are toxic.
I use the coghlan esbit knockoff. I found a mini m&m container is the perfect size to hold the tablets and very little odor. The esbit tabs may be a bit bigger and may not fit, I'm not sure.
I think this used to be the standard in my country when I was a kid, but I haven't seen any in years, so I think they're illegal here now because of their toxicity...
@@robindartt1278 I use knockoff too and I use one table and also will use twigs aswell great for my tiny kettle 😁
Just use two tabs, blow whatever is left over out. then that with one next time. keep rotating, but don't waste time with only one, ever.
I love my MSR whisperlite from the 80s. Use gasoline while bikepacking and can find smaller MSR fuel bottles to cut back on pack volume and weight. I tuck it into my frame bag on my bike and can fit the fuel bottle in a standard bike water bottle cage. Considering they can be found for a bargain used, and can be serviced indefinitely, I think they are actually a fantastic performer all around and outperform many of the other stoves in several metrics. Just my 2 cents of course.
My pocket rocket deluxe felt cheap and the mesh airizer that breaks up the fuel into a finer mist keeps popping out of place. Can’t beat the MSR whisperlite in terms of build quality. that things been kicking around for 40 years for a reason.
I still love the roar of my first stove, my MSR Dragonfly, which I bought after college after I saved up from my 1st job. Still running strong after 20+ years, so many great memories from it 😍
I thought mine would last forever too. Had it over 20 years. The o-rings go bad and last time I used it the o-rings blew out and giant flames everywhere which melted my pump end ruining my stove. Thankfully I was at home testing and used a garden hose to put everything out, but if this was in the woods, then I would have just started a MASSIVE forest fire!!! GET those O-rings REPLACED if 20 years old. PRONTO. Please? You do not want a forest fire on your conscience.
Same. When he said he preferred a canister that burns twigs over the WhisperLite, I stopped listening.
Things have changed so much since I started bushwalking in the 80’s. The MSR international was king even though they could be temperamental things to get going. They were the days when we’d brag about how heavy our pack was, not how light 😂
I remember that. Now it's a badge of honor to do a 4-day with 15 lbs 😄
...and a *lot* more fun.
@@_Solaris I agree. I can’t imagine how I started the Overland Track with just over 30kg (66 pounds) on my back. Must have been young.
@Grant Long I know man. I'm 57 and climbing passes & shoulders is more fun without the heavy grind.
I still rock my international multifuel for about 20 years now.
This review is subject to the reviewers perspective. Solid fuel stoves are a serious joke. Canisters? Land fill. The whisper lite kept me alive in negative 40 winter mountaineering. None of these others can come close
I got a foldable titanium woodstove. Very lightweight and very small when folded. I know it’s performance is not in the same league as modern stoves but I really like it.
Gathering fuel during the hike. The pure joy of achievement when creating fire with sticks and scrapesteel. The smell of campfire when you open the small bottle of whisky you saved for this occasion. 😄
When those embers burn down to coal, you will never have a better stove for grilling up a steak or some beef short rib.
I agree. There's a reason why humans like to gather around a wood fire-not simply because they get the job done, but because it's warm, mesmerizing, enjoyable, etc. Mini wood stoves replicate that experience but on a smaller scale.
@@MurdersMachine Mmmm... some nice Maker's with that hot chocolate.
Same here. Firebox Nano for me, I love that thing!
Wood fires are wonderful... the smell, the flicker, their needing your attention and care. But cooking a meal fast and easy comes first... gotta eat before you can really enjoy the wood fire. Add a PillBottle stove to your pack.
Thank you, although I'm 71 years old and never went camping I couldn't help enjoy your video! For emergency situations where you have lost electricity your camping reviews helped me decide on what I could use and have in a prep bag. Again thank you.
I got the pucks because of your video and have found them to be fantastic little troopers. My thanks to you, sir!
It’s been great following along with your channel and seeing your subscriber numbers jump up so quickly. You’re concise, to the point, and you make even topics like backpacking stoves genuinely interesting. I’m happy to see you get some recognition for the hard work and looking forward to seeing where this channel goes in 2023!
I couldn’t have done it without viewers like you. Thank you for the support
I was going to leave a similar comment, thanks for doing the work for me. Godspeed
Thank you for showing us these stoves and telling about the differences.
You are simping for a channel... I know you want attention but go get it from somebody in real life.
@@thomgizziz Says the troll account..... When arguing a point I'd recommend no name calling or overtly foul language. It's like inserting your foot into your mouth loosing all credibility before your point. Hope you learn "THOM" ;)
Surface area. When the pill bottle stove ripped over it exposed the other sides to an already hot alcohol which likely caused the rest of the remaining alcohol to gasify and burn off really quickly. Great video btw. I've used alcohol stoves for years and my entire setup weights in at just over two ounces. Once again, great work here.
With 2 Stacked Tablets and the pot on top, only the perimeter is emitting alcohol. Knocked down you add the flat area, so bigger flames.
While in the FDF/military, we used trangia stoves, and oh man I love them so much. Pots and pans with the alcohol burner and so much more, all fitting into a nice compact package.
Thank you for your comparison videos. It's not often that you come across quality comparison videos on YT. Keep up your good work.
I love this kind of stuff.
I spent 3 years homeless and the first year was in Wisconsin it started in the winter. The best for heat and cooking was a rocket stove, cost less than 50 bucks. It takes some work, but it heated up a tin can travel trailer or a tent or a box. They sometimes require a wind screen, but a cinder block worked perfect.
I picked up a Trangia last September, aaaaand it’s amazing. It’s maybe not “THE BEST” according to “the experts,” but the shelf life of the fuel, the overall package (two pots and one pan with a grabber handle) and ability to do “proper cooking” as I heard one English backpacker say, makes it a top notch product in my book. I have an entire kitchen in a fairly small package that’s dead nuts reliable for backpacking and emergency scenarios.
it IS the best!
My only concern is that there pots are aluminum
@@SimplyLesa hi. They’ve all but disproven that theory about aluminum causing health issues. I think that’s why you can pick up titanium cookware for a song now. The only cook surface i DO stay away from is anything nonstick. That’s here at home and out there. Hope this helps.
@@SimplyLesa they have hard anodized aluminum and duossal (aluminum outside, stainless inside) nowadays. I don't like plain aluminum either :)
Mine is the hard anodized aluminum. The problem with aluminum is it leaching in highly acidic environments, but that problem is negated when it’s hard anodized, and that hard anodized layer is SUPER tough stuff.
If you have an aluminum coffee percolator you use every day, yeah, it’ll kill you.
If you just use it to boil water and cook non-acidic food while camping you’ll be totally fine. But again, I went the HA route because why the hell not.
I just found your channel and I love your delivery, conciseness, point system. I'll be binging your vids tonight. Big Kudos.
Of all the stoves I've had, the two that had the best "endurance" was a solid fuel wood stove and a Trangia alcohol stove (the latter seemed to operate really well even in high winds!)
The reason I appreciate alcohol stoves is that methylated spirit is easily bought from any hardware or supermarket (don't need to find a camping store like the gas stoves), and the solid fuel wood stove worked anywhere there were trees. Rocket stoves work well but are heavy :(
These are the two I use. Simple, easy and cheap. And reliable
Alcohol stoves don't work that well when it's cool. It's hard to set the alcohol on fire and it takes forever to smelt snow. Gas is not gas but liquid form so that don't work. The "white gas" stove I have tested had smal plastic parts that got brittle and broke the first time i tried it. So i don't know of any stove that works.
on cold condition put the alcohol container in your pocket or your sleeping bag. i use my trangia in the last 40 years in every weather condition including ice, storm rain heat etc
Yeah.... I carry that Toaks twig stove that was tested here. It doubles as a windshield for a small Trangia burner that I also carry. Honestly I use it most of the time with the Trangia burner, but sometimes it is nice to have a real fire also.
Trangia stoves are the swiss army knive of outdoor cooking.
Simple, effective and every little part of it is well thought out, they even can be safely transported with fuel inside.
One is enough for up to two people and in case the group gets bigger just add more of them under the pot, perfect scalability and easy to split the weight.
Woodgas stoves are my favourite. Burn from the top down. Virtually smokeless and very cheap fuel. Not lightweight, and it soots up your pots and pans. It can also use twigs as fuel so you'll never run out of fuel in the wild. Well worth a try
That's a cool new twist on a stove. My idea would be to have one that's about the size of a hockey puck or just smaller maybe the size and thickness of a can of chewing tobacco (not something I partake of). Then you could have a small metal or titanium pop up like an esbit or British Army BCB that doubles as a pot stand and wind screen with shelf for the stone to lay on, keeping it off the ground and also doubling as a solid fuel stove as well.
You and Rob Penton are my favorites. Thank you for being so informative. I love your videos and gear reviews!
I travel for work all the time and constantly am looking for “hit the ground” solutions if I get a night outdoors.
Thank you for sharing the stones. I have used denatured alcohol in the past and it works ok. But the stones add another “non-liquid” option verses the esbit tabs that break down over a few months.
The only thing I have found to work long term are the European fuel tabs that NATO uses. But they leave a residue. This will help me when I fly to a place or country that I may not be able to obtain canister fuel for the first night or two!!!
I’ve stuck with my Coleman F1 gas stove for years. It’s so tiny yet so powerful. I remember a Coleman rep who was in an outdoor store years ago and he said to me ‘This is something that will impress you’ , it did and I’ve used one ever since. I can fit it into the palm of my hand and close up my hand around it.
Great video once again Stephen!!!!
After spending a ton of money on a Rubbermaid container full of stove ((many that I only used once) before selling them) I went back to my favorites.
1- alcohol stove / aka coke can stove
2- Esbit / solid fuel stove
Nice! Love the simplicity of those choices! I like the wood burning stove the emberlit when there’s plenty of wood. I like the solo wood burner when I’m stealthing because it doesn’t emit a lot of smoke and msr white gas when im deep winter snow camping and you have to process a lot of snow for drinking water and cooking.
I had the best wood burning stove when I was younger but I couldn’t remember the name. Turned out it’s a sierra stove, cook and boil water pretty well on pine cones and twigs. Not ultralight, but they make a titanium version now and the fact that there is basically unlimited fuel is a major plus in my book
I just love that there are so many options. A Caldera Cone is a great addition to an alcohol stove (and could be used with some of these other options).
During the pandemic when fuel canisters were getting gobbled up, I started using the White Box alcohol stove. As you mention, denatured alcohol is readily available, cheap and fairly easy to use. It even got me watching the 'prepper" youtubers - LOL. I use it for shorter trips when I want to be extra light and only (as you mention) when going to wetter areas. It does great.
Was talking with my aunt last night about Banff-ing around in Canada for the winter. Naturally, SkyNet detected this and began suggesting to me outdoor lifestyle videos. I've probably watched five or six back-to-back and I'm very impressed with your quality and presentation! I really like your videos!
I ditched canisters 15 years back. The adventures in stoving blog is an amazing resource.
Thanks for sharing. This is a good summary of the various stove systems out there. Especially appreciate the note to check where these are legal and safe to use. Here in California, white gas and wood are largely prohibited due to fire danger. At certain times, no stoves of any kind are allowed in the back country. I have alcohol (trangia), white gas (whisperlite), canister (pocket rocket 2), integrated (windburner) and twig (solo stove lite). Which stove is best for me depends on conditions. The most used is the windburner because I usually backpack in areas of high wind (desert and mountains), nothing comes close. The most fun is the twig stove, but only at campsites with fire rings. It's cool to watch the gasification effect. Haven't used alcohol or white gas stoves in a long time, but they are unbreakable.
Add a PillBottle Stove to your pack... with all your experence you will have a lot of fun using it. Even in your house.
Excellent breakdown! I use the beer can (skinny cans work best) alcohol stove and love it. Only issue I ran into was getting the flame to go out when finished. Had an incident where I thought the flame was extinguished but wasn't due to the flames sometimes being hard to see. Long story short grabbed the can, burned myself, and dropped the still burning fuel on my sit pad which caught fire and melted. So...I now use the bottom half of a full sized can as a means of smothering the flame. Works great and only added a few grams to the total weight of my cook set. Additionally I made my windscreen out of a foil roasting pan, tons of how-to's on how to do that on the interwebs.
Yeah those flames are hard to see. Sometimes I’m like did I actually light it? And wave my hand over to make sure there are no flames…but I can see it being easy to have an accident
The Tablets blow out just like birthday cake candles.
I’ve carried an old SVEA 123 white gas stove for over a half century. It has made it up El Cap and Half Dome. Still works flawlessly. Fits in a kit like the old WWI two man bivvy stove, which, BTW, is also excellent if you could find one.
Addendum: This gentleman has his act together. His knowledge and skill set are very solid. When you are looking for info on anything Outdoors, THIS IS YOUR GUY!!! Love all the links he provides too!
His "act together??" Who are you kidding? NONE of the heat sources he reviewed other than the white gas(real stove) can you actually cook a meal on... Most of the heat sources he review cannot even heat water for a group... only his own ass. Should have been titled: Bull Shit review of solo hiker loners who only eat Crap dehydrated "meals" where you cannot take these sources of heat into National Forest due to unregulated flames during the high summer months...
Very good review. I used to use the Army issued canteen cup and stove with trioxane tablets. The trioxane got too expensive so I went to several tealight candles. They took longer to make a pint boil but they are much cheaper. By cutting down on the number of candles, I was able to simmer or just keep it hot. I like to have tealights in my survival kits for light, heat(hot poncho), and for cooking. Good Luck, Rick
What i do is melt the wax in some tealight candles and stuff them with cotton to increase burning power. They last a lot less, but they are way faster at getting something to boil. I also keep some normal to give low power heat when necessary
Interesting video. I'll get myself a pair of those rocks. I have a whole range of different stoves like the ones featured here and I like the alcohol stove the most. Cooking time is not an issue for me and the only downside is the availability when you're out in the woods. I make my own wind screen from a disposable barbecue plate which sell for less than a dollar after summer. Those barbecue plates have ventilation holes already. Roll it flat, put two slim sticks on the sides for support in the ground, fold it in three parts and you're good to go for a few seasons.
I have a tried and true MSR stove, but that pill bottle idea intrigues me. I love how light weight it is and I actually like that it goes out if knocked over, almost a safety feature by accident. I think I might give that a shot my next backpacking trip.
That pill solution could probably work with other liquid fuels too, which could make it a great option.
Also for the knocking down, you can probably easily make an easy tripod stand for pots ontop of it
I know from personal experience that porous stones also make good non-consumable wicks for burning gasoline in a controlled(ish) manner.
Porous stone lighters for home wood stoves have been in use for 60+ years.
Any liqued fuel will burn, but gasoline, E85, kersene, etc make soot. Ethyl alcohol 99.5% from Amazon is best overall. And no stand is best... the stack of two tablets delivers the optimum oxygen ration to the alcohol fumes and makes the hottest fire with the optimum size flame the just kisses the entire bottom of a 16oz cup, with no fire going up the sidies and going to waste.
The toaks mini alcohol stove is hard to beat in my testing. I use it with the Sterno inferno pot and stand, setup is well under $100 and has never failed me. The mini stove is fine for cook with a skillet too.
I use a small aluminum jar with a screw-on lid (like those for creams and makeup) with rock wool soaked in alcohol inside.
The rock wool is fireproof and holds the alcohol avoiding risks in case of accidental spills. While ethyl alcohol can be found just about anywhere so it doesn't give compatibility problems like some gas canisters
cheap, compact , lightweight, does not give compatibility problems and above all is safe
@francescorestivo6545 Hi, I hadn't heard of "Rock Wool" before, just looked it up online and one site says that it is dangerous due to the risk of inhaling microparticles, just like asbestos! Any comments? I am merely ignorant and not trying to argue.
great presentation and patient explanation -excellent for us beginners, thank you
I love my biolite stove. While it is a little heavy i love that I don't participate in the manufactured fuel cycle. I have a pocket rocket too, but i'm interested in those stones now! Great video!
They look cool. Unfortunately I’ve never gotten to try one.
A little heavy? Weighs as much as my tent!
@@rgmALC it’s 2lbs and doesn’t require carrying fuel. That’s a better option than most on this list. PLUS it will power lights in your camp! Did you know that? It creates more electricity than it uses on the fan, so it can power USB lighting in your camp. I love my Biolite, yes the stove itself is heavier, but I have unlimited fuel, variable heat, plus power for lighting or charging devices. It’s the future. Lastly, the development of Biolite stoves was directed to address air pollution and 3rd world cooking over open flames. Very cool product and company.
@@Dirtsk8r it’s cool if you are car camping…but other than that, it’s way too heavy. It’s heavier than a UL wood stove and a power bank.
I've been using a MSR Dragonfly since the nineties, and have really liked its performance in cold weather using white gas. It's a bit heavy at 14 oz but is really useful for cooking as it will support larger pots. I have serviced it once by replacing o rings, and have found it very reliable. There was a learning curve about how much fuel to use to prime the stove, but once you master that, it's very simple to use.
way too loud
@@NOSEBLOB While that is annoying for sure, its cleaner burn makes it healthier to use inside tents on very cold winter days when compared to the Whisperlite.
@@NOSEBLOB I love the sound
I agree..I use it at the cabin to make a quick coffee or soup right on the table..try that with a stick stove. It burns many different fuels..fast...and you don't have to recycle the tank. My fave..and loud..yes..but they have an insert to make it quiet out there too.
Our Boy Scout troop was not allowed to carry white gas... it can explode, where alcohol vapors cannot explode.
thank you for your reviews.
I still use my MSR Whisperlite international with trillium accessory on legs and disk plate atop burner to aid in simmering.
Use a dab of fuel paste in primer cup for start-up.
Has a self cleaning pin in the jet. Less relying on weather conditions, location or fuel availability to use.
I find a wider pot more practical than narrow and tall one.
I have had a Primus Omni Fuel stove for so many years. Got it back in the days of volunteering for a Search and Rescue team in Washington State. That little stove will burn any flammable fuel from liquid paraffin to alcohol. I have used Olive Oil in it even. Pricy and mine probably could not be repaired today if it broke, but I have boiled pots with a couple gallons of water in them.
Those car camping stoves are powerful! I did a test where I set out 16 stacks of two PillBottle Stove Tablets with a 5 gallon pot on top to cook crawfish.
I love eating in the backcountry and have a big bunch of stoves including the MSR XGK, MSR WindPro, MSR Reactor, MSR Superfly (old school can-top stove) and MSR Pocket-Rocket. They all have their own strengths and are used depending on the mission. The stove that has me the most intrigued is the pill-bottle stove. I love the simplicity and light weight. I am going to find out more about it!
It's like you have been driving an 19 wheeler and now you are on a Harley! It's FUN!
I'm intrigued by the pillbox stove idea - I think the fact that it discharges when knocked over is a plus for safety. I could think of several ways to increase it's output and convenience such as raising it off the ground/reflector a little and increasing it's surface area by spacing the cylinders off each other. also, 3 pairs could be used to balance the cup better.
Definitely! In Australia we have a lot of fire free months and high fire danger throughout so having something that immediately cuts off is amazing
I would use the pillbox in a tomato can with a port in bottom cut out. Solves the wind issue and wide base for the cup.
rather than using that wind break you could use a small metal pan with holes in the side, which would also make the whole thing stable.
Combined with a ti Firebox Nano. Safer, raised above the cylinder for hotter burn, pot is supported, windscreen is integrated. And you can burn sticks if you run out of fuel.
Except it doesn't. He just had an anomaly. Normally it stays lit cause all it is is porous rock.
I have a $12 Chinese canister stove that is a rip off over the MSR pocket rocket. It works almost as good as the MSR. It is a little bit more sensitive to wind. These are great stoves as gifts for Boy Scouts. I sent a couple with fuel to nephew serving in Afghanistan. He said it worked great.
Voted for you from the UK, because I learn a lot from your videos! Thank you and best wishes!
I started with a butane stove in '74 that didn't really put out enough heat and then switched to a Svea 123 (white fuel). While I loved the aesthetic of that stove, after many years I tired of the preheat ritual and the blowtorch effect on my cookware. Switched to an MSR WindPro stove around '06 which, because the burner is separate from the canister, has a low center of gravity and also wide pot support. Very stable. I also like that the canister is away from the burner unit. The subtle flame control and a wider burner ring means you can actually cook something more complicated than boiling water.
I got most of them. I still go for the cannister stove. The Soto windmaster is my favorite out of the 5 I have. But I do love a alcohol stove if I'm not cooking, just boiling.
pillbottle stove sounds great, packs up tiny and weighs little, just need to dig a base for it so it doesn't fall over. could also use it as a reusable starter for larger fires
I like that idea. Especially if your fire needs a little extra help in wet conditions. It's easier to store and reuse than single use fire starters. You could also set the stones side by side on a longer base instead of stacking them
If you set the tablets on a flat hard surface, a 16oz pot on top will not tip over unless you whack it. The Walmart 16oz SS cup ($6.45) has a depression in the middle the exact size of the Tablets, so that combo is very stable. If you set the Tablets on soft leaves and grass, it can tip over.... like any camp stove.
I have a range of stoves…. Probably too many. It all depends on what you need but I love a silent stove (alcohol) or a small wood burning stove. Not as quick but you still get to listen to everything else while they are running. Keep up the top content
This is an excellent rundown and I am seriously impressed by the alcohol stones. What a great idea and I especially like that it worked while setting the pot on top of the stones. I mean how easy is that.
Yes, no stand needed. Actually cooks faster sitting on the Tablets than on a stand.
Im intrigued by the stone stove. I hope you do a more indepth video of it. One stove that doesn't get enough attention is Sterno Stove. Probably because you can't get the anymore. It looked like a jetboil but sat on top of a sterno can of fuel. The boil time was about 4 -5 mins. But you could fit 2 sterno cans inside of it along with the lighter. And when the water boils, you just lift it off the sterno can and put the lid back on the sterno snuffing out the flame. Nothing to spill and the fire was contained. I may have to start using it again. I stopped in 2019 when I hiked the AT and wasn't sure how available sterno would be on the trail.
I started Backpacking in the late 1960's. My first stove was a metal planters Peanut can with the bottom cut out and heavy duty wire bail over the top. The heat source was a can of Sterno and that was locked into the can with plastic lid that fit the peanut can. It was fast lighting , cooked quickly and I could have hot soup when everyone else was munching granola. I could pack the stove up quickly when it was time to continue. I eventually got a white gas stove and later in the 1980's a butane stove but I always fondly remember that Sterno stove and it cost nothing to make.
Gasifying wood stove made from tin cans has always worked best for me. It would still score low on your scale, but it's my go-to where I live.
How do I make one?
@@deusexaethera Just search CZcams. there are plenty of video's that show how to make one. It doesn't take long, or very many things or tools to make.
Thanks for the video! I have, and have used virtually all of these types except for the alcohol saturated stones which, frankly I don’t see as significantly distinct from any number of basic alcohol stoves. For simply aesthetic reasons I prefer an alcohol stove. It’s simple, quiet, clean burning and works at any temperature. Gas canister stoves are certainly the go to choice for most general condition 3 season backpackers, for me as well. Efficient, dead simple and lightweight. However, I live and recreate year round in the Rockies, mostly in alpine environs. Here, there is only one really reliable choice and that is a liquid fuel stove (last on your rating list). A little on the heavy side, a tiny bit more attention consuming in use, but the only thing that works with 100% reliability in alpine conditions (>10m ft./
The differences are: 1) no liquid in the PillBottle Stove, can't spill, 2) boilovers do not put out the fire and dilute the alcohol like they do in a cokecan stove, 3) cokecan alcohol stoves crush if you drop a heavy pot or step on them, 4) you can blow out the PillBottle stove like birthday cake candles, 5) no waiting 15 miutes for the cokecan to cool down so you can pour excess liquid to pour back into your fuel bottle ( 6) no waiting a minute or two for the sodacan stove to heat up and spit out the hot flames, 7) you can pick up the PillBottle stove tablets after 30 seconds and put them back in the bottle to recharge (in 6 minutes), 8) the PillBottle stove can burn any flammable fuel if necessary, your sodacan stove will explode if you try to burn gasoline, 9) you need a case to carry the sodacan stove in your pack or it will get bent and start leaking, 10) sodacan stoves have seams that leak, no seams on the PillBottle Stove.
I think that the pill bottle stove disk should work in a folding sterno stove. It would give you a place to set them with a wind screen and a stable cooking surface.
has anyone tried that, I thought the same thing
The BTU output is maximum with two Tablets stacked and the pot sitting on top... no stand.
I haven't tried it. But, good idea to try. If you make some modifications to the Sterno stove works with a Trangia as well.
That was really a wonderful video presentation. Thank you so much.😊
Great Video! Good points on time/efficiency/price/and size. You helped me make a better consideration on a better pack stove for my fish/camp channel.
I like the alcohol/wood/solid fuel combo. I use the Firebox nano gen 2 (titanium) with an alcohol burner. This setup gives me versatility. Con: be mindful of the pot you use. Stanley adventure pot does work great.
I completely agree! I'm going with a similar setup. Thinking of the Picogrill 85g and my diy alcohol stove, to be paired with something like the Soto navigator (for actual cooking).
Maybe the ALOCS CW-CO5 set is better being able to do alcohol/wood/gas/solid
And you are helping prevent raging forest fires. Cleaning up under brush.
Love the Stanley adventure. A little chunky but so freakin' tough & versatile.
Love this video. I design things and have wanted to try making a micro-stove for some years but never got around to it. Most of those stove designs are familiar to me, except the firebrick tablets which got me thinking that I could design something much better based on the same material. I've had my cad program open for a few hours now and am on the third iteration. I think this third version is pretty much what will be made for the first prototype. Edit, on about the tenth version now, lol. So much fun.
Consider me for a tester! I do bike packing trips with video.
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Excited to hear about what you craft.
@@danielmejorado6098 Hi, here is an update for you. After making lots of little puck prototypes of different designs and different solid absorbent materials, I came to the conclusion that in a real world applications a high quality carbon felt in a tin was the best solution. Extremely small and lightweight to carry, does not leak, charges up instantly with total absorption of the amount of fuel to boil 2 cups of water and then can be recharged instantly again if needed. There are different grades of carbon felt, I tried two versions of the felt and also two solid versions. The solid types are really nice. but not very durable. The highest quality felt was perfect, really good stuff but quite expensive at about £150 a square meter with a min spend of seven meters. Having said that I could get quite a few disks from one meter. I tested this material against various types of absorbent ceramic wool, but the high quality carbon felt was the best and also safest material to use.
I was thinking to go ahead and make them for sale even with the initial cost, I even bought a hundred tin containers for them and some steel dies to cut the disks, However, somehow life took a turn at that time with my health situation and all that plus other things were put on hold and probably now shelved for good. It's a shame I guess as I put a lot of time into the project and the little stove is better I believe than other similar products just due to the quality of the really hard to find material (that was a story in itself). As a hobby it would be cool to make these because I'm proud of the product, but I just don't have the energy to actually organize making and selling them anymore.
Oh, I forgot, I did a lot more research on wind screens. It is true that with a solid puck one can rest a cup directly on the puck itself if need be, which is nice. So I designed the carbon felt stove in a way that resting a cup on it is also possible, but having a wind guard and the cup an inch off the stove is way better efficiency regardless of what is the heat source. I bought a couple of screens to try and used cad to design some concepts which I think would be a perfect companion to the stoves, but never had them made for the aforementioned health reasons. I'm fully of the opinion that this little stove when especially used with a wind screen stand made specifically for the purpose would be a wonderfully practical, portable, lightweight, simple to use and affordable bit of kit. It was fun and I'll never say never because maybe someone else will take if and produce such a thing one day.
Thanks for the good comparison briefing; much appreciated! A pocket rocket plus a solid fuel kit is definitely a good, convenient lightweight, cheap combo offering adequate redundancy! ❤
I stumbled across your CZcams channel I thought you were very informative I enjoy camping and always want somthing new or better than what I have or had in the past. You are very informative
I love using esbit tabs! I have the UL foldering titanium stove base that balances my pot well. You can also use two tabs if you want to do a fast boil if you're cooking for two. They actually come in two different sizes. These are a German product and I think I'll be able to get them in Switzerland when I'm there to trek and bivouac. The major problem I have with them is the smell. They burn clean but the smell they emit before you light them is terrible and I have to keep them in double ziplock bags and avoid directly touching them!
Even zip bags have not helped for me. I really felt like I was carrying smelly fish with me. If anyone can develop a no smell bag, take my money…
I used to use Esbit, but they STINK. The wife makes me put the cubes and stand 20 feet from the tent.
Gosh, I'm still using my brass Svea 123 white gas stove with an aluminum Sigg Tourist Cookset that I bought in 1974. It's basically a blowtorch but it gets the job done.I'm not concerned too much with speed, except when I'm really hungry and that makes everything taste fantastic.
Still using the foldable cube sterno box I hauled around in scouting, but only as a surface and windbreak. Definitely not a "cooking with gas" sorta fella. haha
Great video! So, before my JMT hike I looked through most of the options out there. I considered a Firebox, Jetboil, an Evernew alcohol stove, and finally a Soto Muka white gas stove. With fuel and a Jetboil cup, the Soto option weighed in at 3 pounds. Since we were only eating freeze dried, this and my Snow Peak Ti spork made up my cooking supplies. The Muka, while taking some serious pumping to get going, doesn't require priming and gets hotter than the sun! With that Jetboil cup, I could boil over 2 cups of ice water in just over 2mins 7 seconds. The only comparable option would have been the MSR Reactor but I knew we would hit some cold weather in some spots and I trust white gas to work in those conditions. And sure enough, I was the one that would be boiling my other friends water for most of nights! Thanks for the info!
Yea, because none of their heat sources work at elevation nor put out enough heat to overcome wind/cold temps... AND your stove is an actual stove you can throttle and cook on if you wish... This review was a joke. You can't cook on majority of them, only heat water to ~some degree and then only poorly...
This is good information for people who bugout and prep.
Back when I was in the scouts there was a big argument between the leaders in the association between methylated spirits and the gas. We tested both and frankly they were pretty evenly matched. We ended up going with the gas stoves because we had a guy we could get used canisters from for free. I'm still a bit bummed we didn't get to really use the meths stove though, and this stone system looks really neat
I always used to carry a can of Sterno or two. I have the little stove that they go in. I think I packed with it twice. I usually just found some rocks. Then I found a bigger tomato can. I poked holes around the outside along the bottom and the top. The Sterno can sat in the bottom. It made it more wind proof and held the heat in better for faster cooking.
It's bulky, heavy and disposable, but Sterno cans are really easy to light with a Ferro rod in the rain. And they sometimes stock them at the dollar tree.
This is a solid video. Clearly you spent some time preparing and filming. Thank you
First: great comparison and thanks for pointing out WHERE some of this is available. After 40 years as a scout (and then leading them) I've found the fins on the jetboil make the weight of the fuel you carry twice as effective. It's not just that you get to boil faster, you use less fuel to get there. Expensive? Yes. but I've had the same one for 25 years. I carry the last used canister and a new one for a week which works out. And, I can turn it down for other things like eggs. I also REALLY like the stability. If weight were the biggest issue, then alcohol on stones looks like the way to go.
You gotta try the Soto Stormbreaker, I absolutely love it. You can use white gasoline or gas from canisters. And if you want to use white gasoline, you don't have this open flame for preheating the stove, as it just doesn't need it! And it's kinda quiet compared to other stoves.
Hi buddy 😻 we just bought the Stormbreaker and we want to try it with white gas too. In Romania after some Google searches we came up with the conclusion that the equivalent of white gas would be Neophal, which is naptha based like Coleman fuel (White gas) is. Any experience with this type of fuel? What kind of white gas ⛽️ do you use? Thank you 🙏🥰
@@hungryromanians You probably don't have to use any exact chemical formula for your burner. FWIW "white gas" is a generic term for no additives gasoline, and naphtha-based fuels. E.g. this Coleman thing changed its chemical contents several times through history, and people continue to use, and nothing essential has been broken as far as I can tell. I have Optimus white gas burner, and often use a type of gasoline marketed as a solvent in my country, and it works fine.
@@ac7202 we noticed that this Neophal is very similar to your typical solvent used to dilute paint 🎨😀
@@hungryromanians Well I'm from Germany and what I'm using is "Waschbenzin" (basically the solvent that @A/C uses) which I think is just white gasoline. But you can just use standard gasoline from the gas station, it'll just be not as good for the burner and is not recommended(Only use if you can't get any white gasoline!). A friend of mine said it can even run with Diesel but I'm not sure if he ever tried that, although I for sure didn't try ^^
I gotta admit though, when I was in northern Sweden I had no idea where to get white gasoline and just filled two bottles with standard gas and the burner still worked like a charm after 2.5 weeks of use. And back then I still had a crappy MSR burner...
@@jonasklein7260 I am also in Germany (but English) and used white gas/ petrol stoves for the last 50 years or so, as I camp from a motorcycle weight isn't the most important so I use a Coleman Sporster (doesn't need preheating, the Soto one doesn't either) either on waschbenzine, car painters panel wipe or when on tour just fuel from the bike. I've run four weeks on normal petrol before needing to clean the vaporisor tube though if you run some white gas for a while through it clears it a bit. Carb cleaner works well to clear it out.
Somewhere on the internet is an extensive table of what all the fuels are called in various countries.
The Whisperlite is the only stove I would want to take in deep winter. None of the other stoves can melt snow as effectively as that one
Oh, but I must disagree...MSR XGK2 is the champ for flat out snow melting...
NO Simmering though
I had the whisperlite but my svea 123r has it beat- 2 moving part, self cleaning, built in tool, pot hand’e and pot
I'll have to check out that stove - sounds interesting! @@dannynye1731
The whisperlite is now self cleaning with the shaker, fwiw@@dannynye1731
I like the following setup: candle tins spiral stuffed w/carbon felt & filled w/ alcohol. Up to three under a SP600 or fill two & swap the burnt out one to extend cook time. Stand & windbreaker is a dryer vent 4-5" section of pipe that has snap lock & is drilled cross axis to slide a poultry lacer through to support one side of the cup, the other side is supported by the handles. The snap lock pops open & rolls inside the cup, whole setup very lite, compact, & low cost.
Excellent clear video I don't hike but have a smallsailing cruiser have always used bottle gas stored in boat bilge locker however if I go inland say Fens or Norfolk Broads I have comply with boat safety regs which for quick visit are a bit tire some so thought of swapping to alcohol or solid fuel and removing Gas Bottles which fall foul of the regs.
Based on your review I'm going to look spirit/meths/alcohol stoves such as Origo and also see if any solid fuel stoves made for use on a boat with gimbal to keep them level..
Many thanks got me thinking..
Msr WhisperLite is the choice for me. The multi fuel options make it incredible in the middle of nowhere. I can always find gasoline or diesel either by asking a rancher or stopping at a small gas station. I've done this more than 10 times and had zero issues getting it to work. As for cooking real food on the trail it is so easy as long as the pressure is low in the canister. (simmer control)
Can see the advantages of multi fuel stoves but I'm put off by the unpleasantness of dealing with gasoline or diesel and the concern that a small spill would stink up my whole backpack contents.
Folks who don't use multi-fuel stoves will never quite get why we choose to take the extra 4 or 5 oz. extra, if even that.
Multi-fuel stoves typically use diesel, gasoline, or kerosene. All of which have much higher energy density than butane, propane, or isobutane (propane/butane mixes). For longer duration trips, multi-fuel stoves will win out in the weigh comparisons. In addition, many canister stoves start failing below 0F (-12C) after a few uses. From experience, this appears to be due to the propane and butane mixtures separating. Once the propane is exhausted, the butane can no longer be extracted from the canisters.
All of this is to say nothing of the fine points that you've raised.
@@Carniak The energy density issue became clear to me using an alcohol stove for longer trips. For a day trip the alcohol stove is probably the lightest option, but above 2 days the fuel weight you have to carry becomes significant. So far as I know alcohol fuel is fine to use at any temperature you can encounter on earth, but it's about half the energy density of hydrocarbons.
@@TerryClarkAccordioncrazy I definitely understand the smell issues however it really isn't that bad. I put mine in the bag with no issues. I can go about 5-(6 if lucky) days with a small can. This includes cold weather and cooking twice a day. I would use the lowest grade fuel possible 85. This has better efficiency and less residue than the higher octane fuels. Just something I've noticed.
@@Carniak I totally agree. I would like to add that these stoves are great for people who also cook non-packet food. I mostly take potatoes, fresh vegetables, rice, oatmeal, and spices. This stove has improved my ability to go further. Just like the fuel being more energy dense my food selections can also be more energy dense.
In winter, you can use the adapters to put propane in your cannisters, eliminating the cold weather issue with butane.
Not safe! Butane canisters are not designed to withstand the higher pressures of propane.
Prepare for soot in advance, by coating the outside of pots, pans, and coffee pots with liquid soap.
Best camp trick I learned from 4H as a small sprout learning woods survival... right after changing underwear and socks before getting in my bag at night 😁
Lately, when motorcycle camping, I have been using a genuine Bushbuddy stove and a MSR Windburner. Though I haven't used the Windburner for anything more than a coffee cup. The Bushbuddy is so convenient.
I've always stuck with my Trangia, they are heavier than a canister stove but their versatility and safety are brill. And if you do need to lighten the load you can just leave some pots and pans behind.
I’m doing a bit more serious cooking (even if it’s just sautéing some onions before adding water and instant soup) and for me simmering and even heat distribution is really important. It’s also important to be able to easily stir the pot.
I like using my Firebox Nano with a Trangia Spirt Burner. This is my favourite combo for the weekend stuff I do. It is cheap and compact, the fuel is cheap and easy to find where I live, the fuel holding containers are light, it is a simple design, the flame is adjustable, the stove is silent, and it is multi-fuel (twigs or alcohol) for redundancy.
I don’t do a lot of camping anymore (disability has wrecked that) so based on what I use my stove for, fishing, I love my Coleman dual fuel featherlite. It can burn any form of petrol and I find that a full tank lasts for days. It may not be the lightest, but I couldn’t part with it.
This was an excellent video and I’m glad it popped up on my CZcams channel.
Thanks for putting this on my radar, unusual stove at the end of the video but really love it! Thanks for the upload 🌲
The one I like is the Firebox Nano Gen 2 Titanium. It can be a Wood burner , an Alcohol stove and even a Propane stove , depends on how you set it up and which one you want at that time. If you combine it with the X Box you have compact ( Clean ) storage for it and even a base to set it on when in use. Plus it is very light and pack able. Two models , Stainless or Titanium.
You can also add solid fuel to the list with a bit of modification. I really like the system, plus you can have a nice cozy fire when you want it which is very nice. Doing "sweedish fire" style makes it burn forever without needing to add more fuel which is sweet if you want to simmer something over a longer time or something like that
I love wood campfires, but cooking dinner ain't fun on a wood stove, or a stove with lots of parts and pieces that I will surely lose or misplace. We invented the PillBottle stove to make cooking reliable, simple, and ultralight.
Can it fit onto a 20 lb propane tank?
for alcohol stoves I found the best are the diy fancy feast ones with carbon felt
I really liked how you explained all the different stoves, the only one that you tested that was outside the norm but seemed very interesting is that NeoTrekk PillBottle Stove, but it is rather expensive, however, it is extremely lightweight and the pills can be reused hundreds of times which is amazing, I think over the long term it would be a lot cheaper to use than a canister system, so am thinking about getting the system but I need to do a lot more research on it before I commit.
Currently, I have a SOTO Windmaster, once I used this on a windy day I discovered that the wind didn't bother it a bit like the previous one I had, now I no longer have to take the windscreen I bought for the other one. While no canister-type stove will work below 20 degrees F, I don't like camping that cold anyways, but I did test it at home by setting the system outside in 25F weather for a few hours and it fired up afterward. The SOTO Windmaster boils water in a third of the time than it takes for my microwave oven!
Outstanding video, first time watcher, but I will watch again. Informative in a way that is hard to find, no additional nonsense. JM
Similar to the wood stove you described, I have always used the standard US Army canteen cup, and the cup stand with which you can either use Trioxane tablets, or in which you can build a twig fire. All of these components fit in the standard canteen cover which attaches to a pistol belt. There are any of a number of "Canteen Cup" recipes which can be used when backpacking, in addition to a standard cup of soup. It is hard to improve on some of the old military gear.